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There is too much pain and suffering in this world that so many innocents endure to believe there is a God that loves us like a parent would.
Why does He allow it? Or, seeing as how He knows the future, He did so from the beginning. Is it some kind of sadistic thing?

Mankind rejected God in the Garden, and brought this pain and death on us. Jesus salvation is the way out. We will never understand the reasons why it works like it does. at least not outside of Heaven. The point is getting there. Once this world is destroyed, it will never be brought to remembrance again.

NO! Adam and Eve rejected God. We should NOT be punished because they were stupid! God is wrong for doing so!

Seems to me you are rejecting God. Been in anybody elses heart and mind lately to find out if they are rejecting God? Or if they only seem like they are rejecting God.

From what I've understood we're paying for Adam and Eve's sins. And that's not cool.

How about if you were to be put in prison because someone you don't know, you've never met and is in another country did something you're not guilty of?

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Would it have any point whatsoever to mention the obvious fact that I was ironic? Or the fact that I even have to say that speaks a lot for itself?

Here's the first factual statement you have said.

Yeah, when in need you take what you can, right? At least it's not nothing. You're not leaving home with your bag empty.

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Let me tell you something, as a theology major, that is: theology is nonsense. And I can and am allowed to say that because mine is an informed opinion. I'm not just talking out of my ass. And after 5 years my opinion (doesn't have to be yours too) is that it's just a bunch of hooey. How easy it is to make nonsense up, make people believe it, and then live out of people's ignorance. It's genius!

Perhaps if you had been a spiritual major, all that theology would have made some sense to you. Too bad. All that training, and what good did it do you. Essentially none... at least in the ways that are worth anything of eternal value.

Go study science with a focus on finding out how cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy combine to prove the existence of God. Then go back and review your theological training. You just might come to understand that even you can be saved for eternal life in pleasure and joy.

Yeah - it took me 5 years of studying theology to finally understand that it's all nonsense. That's my opinion, please respect it, I'll respect your and that's it. Don't force your ideas upon others. Go be with Jesus.

In Hell you will be saying for eternity, "Please God, let that guy force faith in you on me."

If God is so powerful and full of mercy and love He will forgive me, because I'm small and limited and He is all powerful. If not then He is spiteful and keeps spite like a small child.

He is trying to forgive you. But you will receive none of it.

The retarded black person over in Africa, who never learned to read or write, and who is not saved because he worships the idol his family taught him to worship, will be punished less in Hell than you, a theology major, who intentionally rejected God after you found out all about Him.

Now that's one of the most racist thing I've read in some time.
You mean to say that black people are retarded?
Or that he will go to Hell because he can't or did not learn to read?
Or because his parents taught him something and not about your God that he will go to Hell even if he hasn't never heard about God?
Dude... That's wrong on so many levels, i don't even know what to say...

You racist, you. Turning the things that I say into racism, and then emphasizing the racist part.

The person that doesn't know about God and goes to Hell will be punished less than the one who knows about God and rejects Him.

You call black people retarded and call me racist? You little sneaky...

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Quote from: eon89 on February 06, 2016, 11:00:16 AM

Child, you do realize I'm not going to show you my diploma, but you can easily look online. And to be specific I'm talking here about orthodox theology. I'm sure that from here you can manage to find what you need by yourself.

Now I understand why you lost faith.

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Quote from: BitNow on February 04, 2016, 03:04:52 PM

Quote from: eon89 on February 04, 2016, 03:01:48 PM

I also studied physics but I'm not a physician. If a study a certain field makes me only an informed person concerning that field. That's all.

You need to be a priest to study Theology: you cannot study by yourself.

I accept that answer in the "violent discussion" we are having.

Best regards.

EDIT: if Theology can be studied without being a priest give proofs.

Child, you do realize I'm not going to show you my diploma, but you can easily look online. And to be specific I'm talking here about orthodox theology. I'm sure that from here you can manage to find what you need by yourself.

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Well, I should probably be thanking you for focusing on me rather than how science proves God exits. But what else can you do? since you can't refute the science. So, thanks for helping to validate the science by showing folks how you can't refute it.

What else can I do? I can try to keep your wandering mind on topic. What proof is there that Atheists hate Religion?

That is part of the point. Many atheists don't hate religion. These are the ones who barely consider their atheism.

So you don't think that atheists in general hate religious people in general? Finally, something we can agree on. I might not agree with your method of discussion, but I agree with the characterisation you give here - most atheists I've met don't even think about gods.

Quote from: BADecker on February 05, 2016, 08:16:18 PM

The atheists who hate religion are far more atheistic than the ones who barely consider atheism. Both of them have their religion.

I don't agree with your definition of religion (ie that having a religion just means spending time arguing about something -- which means, by the way, that for example that all lawyers follow law as a religion, all politicians have political action as a religion) but even by your definition if many atheists "barely consider their atheism" then how can it be a religion to them?

Quote from: BADecker on February 05, 2016, 08:16:18 PM

Those of them who hate religion, are far more into the religion of atheism than those who don't. They are also far more into hating themselves.

I'm not sure how you could know that -- unless you have been an atheist?

Quote from: BADecker on February 05, 2016, 08:16:18 PM

"Leave me alone," they say. "Let me squander the little bit of life I have, before I wind up destroying myself completely, just to get away from the religion that I am."

Has anyone actually said that? I'm fairly certain that you just made that up, and that no atheist ever said that to you.

Well, thank you again, for helping to prove that God exists, by attempting to take the focus off the science that proves it. Hopefully more and more people will wake up to the fact that God does exist. God even appreciates you for the help you are giving in this area.

Any chance you'll respond to any of my questions any time soon? Do you have no answer for logical objections?

I'm sure I have responded one way or another to any question you might be asking.

This being said, thanks again for showing that you don't have any science that refutes the scientifically proven fact that God exists... AND for helping me to expand the knowledge of this by not expressing any refutation that you might have.

Dude - there isn't any evidence that God doesn't exist. But also there isn't any evidence that He does exist. So we'll each pick the option that makes more sense for each of us. Of course, logic and science point us towards the second option, but if you choose the first one that's ok also. Just keep it to yourself. We can still go out and have a beer together.

Agreed. As nothing concerning God can be proved or unproved, that's just a matter of personnal perspective. Like it or not BADecker, you don't have any proof of God existence.

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Well, I should probably be thanking you for focusing on me rather than how science proves God exits. But what else can you do? since you can't refute the science. So, thanks for helping to validate the science by showing folks how you can't refute it.

What else can I do? I can try to keep your wandering mind on topic. What proof is there that Atheists hate Religion?

That is part of the point. Many atheists don't hate religion. These are the ones who barely consider their atheism.

So you don't think that atheists in general hate religious people in general? Finally, something we can agree on. I might not agree with your method of discussion, but I agree with the characterisation you give here - most atheists I've met don't even think about gods.

Quote from: BADecker on February 05, 2016, 08:16:18 PM

The atheists who hate religion are far more atheistic than the ones who barely consider atheism. Both of them have their religion.

I don't agree with your definition of religion (ie that having a religion just means spending time arguing about something -- which means, by the way, that for example that all lawyers follow law as a religion, all politicians have political action as a religion) but even by your definition if many atheists "barely consider their atheism" then how can it be a religion to them?

Quote from: BADecker on February 05, 2016, 08:16:18 PM

Those of them who hate religion, are far more into the religion of atheism than those who don't. They are also far more into hating themselves.

I'm not sure how you could know that -- unless you have been an atheist?

Quote from: BADecker on February 05, 2016, 08:16:18 PM

"Leave me alone," they say. "Let me squander the little bit of life I have, before I wind up destroying myself completely, just to get away from the religion that I am."

Has anyone actually said that? I'm fairly certain that you just made that up, and that no atheist ever said that to you.

Well, thank you again, for helping to prove that God exists, by attempting to take the focus off the science that proves it. Hopefully more and more people will wake up to the fact that God does exist. God even appreciates you for the help you are giving in this area.

Any chance you'll respond to any of my questions any time soon? Do you have no answer for logical objections?

I'm sure I have responded one way or another to any question you might be asking.

This being said, thanks again for showing that you don't have any science that refutes the scientifically proven fact that God exists... AND for helping me to expand the knowledge of this by not expressing any refutation that you might have.

Dude - there isn't any evidence that God doesn't exist. But also there isn't any evidence that He does exist. So we'll each pick the option that makes more sense for each of us. Of course, logic and science point us towards the second option, but if you choose the first one that's ok also. Just keep it to yourself. We can still go out and have a beer together.

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You asked if I would start a war against religion because you mentioned faith. I wrote I have no problem with faith, only with your characterisation of science. Now you write "Of course you have a problem: you have no Faith!". This is meaningless, unless you think that science == faith, which as I explained to you before is a contradiction in terms.

Now it is you who is talking without thinking. Science DOES equal faith in all sorts of ways. What scientist would look for some aspect of science if he didn't have faith that it could be found? Who would ever formulate scientific theories if he didn't have faith that they might be able to be proven? or if he didn't have faith that his theories would help him prove other things in science? or if he didn't have faith that his peer review would earn him status or money somehow? Most of science absolutely does equal faith.

No. I've never met a scientist arrogant enough to *have faith* they're right. There will be undoubtedly be some, but the ones i know *hope* they're right. If they had faith they were right, they wouldn't bother with experiments since that would be a waste of time.

Replace "faith" with "hope" in your statement above and you'll be nearer the mark.

Faith is when your mind doesn't know but your heart tells you so.
Scientists don't hink with their heart but with their brain. So they can't have faith. That would be a nonsense.

Of course they sometimes have faith in their theories and that's why they do test it. But they just have faith in their vision of the world, then they test, and they know if they're wrong or right.

But we don't have faith in gravity BADecker xD

Scientists are not robots. They have lots of faith. Ask their husbands and wives. Many of them will tell you truthfully that their spouse is faithful - full of faith.

Faith in gravity is built-in. It is beyond hope. Why do we have faith in gravity? Because we don't really know for a fact that it will keep on working for us. The example and experience is that it has in the past. But we still don't know about the future, even though we are comfortable in thinking we do.

There is no need for faith in gravity - if we're to use your example.
There is no example is the history of human kind when gravity has failed a single human being. Except in space or in controlled experiments.
I KNOW for a FACT that if I'll jump I'll come back down. And we can all gather and make the experiment or bet or whatever you want and you'll see that every time I'll jump I'll come back on the ground again. No faith needed.
If it doesn't happen you can tell me wrong as much as you want. But I wouldn't get my hopes too high if I were you.

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Math is the beginning into faulty thinking. The deeper one goes into math, the harder it is to use it, and the easier it is to show its inherent mistakes. Even with computers it ultimately fails.

You are worshiping a false god in math.

There is no God in math,
"Vires in numeris" means "Truth in Numbers"

Truth and God are 2 different things as Science and knowledge and as the Bible (KJV) should have separated.

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Perfect! The answer is here! You refute Science and maths.

I don't think it's necessary to go further with you on this debate. You clearly live in a different world.

When science uses math, it uses virtual reality. Math doesn't work in reality... at least not the standard math that we have. The thing that happens is, scientists figure things out in the virtual reality, and apply them without the virtual reality to real life. Some of them work. As the math gets more complex, less of it works in reality.

However, it isn't only the scientists that do this. Kids in school adapt to the Internet so extremely well, because subconsciously they have recognized that the Internet is great virtual reality, just like the math that they have been learning. Their subconscious applies the virtual reality of math to the virtual reality of the Internet, and they thrive on it.

Women are practical. Often women don't understand math very well. Check the statistics. Girls in school generally have a much harder time understanding math. It's because they are way more practical with reality. They don't understand the virtual reality that math is because of how practical they are.

Math doesn't work? I'd like to see you when your employer tells you that math doesn't work in real life so you only get half a paycheck.

Also - you just called women stupid. Go tell your mom/gf/wife: "you don't understand much, but that's ok, because you're practiacl and can cook and clean, and that's enough for me, so it should be enough for you too".

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Au contraire mon frere. You wanted to get back on to the thread's topic. I asked for proof that that as a class atheists hate all religions, since that what the thread title asks. If we're not getting anywhere its only because you *dont* want to get the thread back on topic.

There you go again, with your standard old deception.

Deception? You were the one to want to get back on topic:

Quote from: BADecker on February 04, 2016, 03:47:12 AM

Actually, it is your challenge that changes the subject.

The on-topic part that I was doing was to show why atheists hate religion. You and your challenges without doing your research, shows how you would rather change the subject so that we move away from the proof that God exists, and away from showing atheists why they hate religion... which is... because religion is right, and not even atheists like being proven wrong.

The topic is: Why do Atheists hate Religion?
I asked: What proof is there that this is true?

What is deceptive? Pots and kettles, buddy.

Well, I should probably be thanking you for focusing on me rather than how science proves God exits. But what else can you do? since you can't refute the science. So, thanks for helping to validate the science by showing folks how you can't refute it.

What else can I do? I can try to keep your wandering mind on topic. What proof is there that Atheists hate Religion?

That is part of the point. Many atheists don't hate religion. These are the ones who barely consider their atheism.

The atheists who hate religion are far more atheistic than the ones who barely consider atheism. Both of them have their religion. Those of them who hate religion, are far more into the religion of atheism than those who don't. They are also far more into hating themselves.

"Leave me alone," they say. "Let me squander the little bit of life I have, before I wind up destroying myself completely, just to get away from the religion that I am."

"more atheistic"? Can a person believe more or less that there is no God? I would say it's an absolute fact. It is or it is not.

And yes. You don't see me stopping you on the street to ask you if you have a moment for me to "talk about our Dark Lord Darth Vader and His doctrine". Exactly. Leave us alone, and in turn we'll leave you do to as you wish in your misguided notions, as long as you don't bother anyone. But seeing as how you insist your ideas upon us, that's just not right.

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You need science to prop up your faith in God. Christians I know have a very strong faith in God, without any need for science.
I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Star Wars reference! That's it! +1!! Man, I haven't laughed like this in a long time. Thank you!

Kudos to you - you're the first to get it. Have to admit, I was doing some sniggering myself when I wrote it.

Lol!

Well, when you don't really have a debate but rather a unilateral discussion, you gotta have fun when you can xD

It won't go much further I think though, you all repeated the same thing around 5 times, I hope it'll end their :3

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You asked if I would start a war against religion because you mentioned faith. I wrote I have no problem with faith, only with your characterisation of science. Now you write "Of course you have a problem: you have no Faith!". This is meaningless, unless you think that science == faith, which as I explained to you before is a contradiction in terms.

Now it is you who is talking without thinking. Science DOES equal faith in all sorts of ways. What scientist would look for some aspect of science if he didn't have faith that it could be found?

Of course the scientist doesn't have faith an answer can be found, she has hopes and expectations. If she had faith, she wouldn't bother looking.

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Who would ever formulate scientific theories if he didn't have faith that they might be able to be proven?

Every scientist I've ever met.

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or if he didn't have faith that his theories would help him prove other things in science? or if he didn't have faith that his peer review would earn him status or money somehow? Most of science absolutely does equal faith.

Again, no. Maybe some scientists have faith they will find what they're looking for, but I've never met them. They all hope to make discoveries, but none of them are arrogant enough to have faith that they'll be the ones to do it.

Exactly. I think people mistake faith and hope. Which are not the same thing.

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You know, maybe you're an atheist, but you're truly devoted to your fight against religion, no doubt about that. Cause spending so much energy on a debate with someone obviously disagreeing fundamentally with you is close to faith you know?

What I care about is wooly thinking and people who try to deceive others by presenting logical fallacies as a real argument. Whether that's by someone who is religious or atheist or a sheep shagger, I care not.

If spending energy on a discussion is a religion, then logic is my religion and my God is maths, and people who make illogical or purposely misleading arguments are sinners who offend my religious sensibilities.

Lol.
I didn't want to talk about religion but more about the fact that you truly have faith in your opponents to maybe one day change their opinion. Which they won't obviously.

I continue the discussion for readers who might be mislead by people who have an agenda. I have no hope whatsoever of changing BADecker mind, or whatever BitNow uses to do his thinking, but I do hope that I can reveal their arguments to be the unsupportable opinions they are.

Oh, this is so rare. Cheesy

"I continue the discussion for readers who might be mislead by people who have an agenda." Translation. "I continue the discussion for readers who might be mislead by myself and my agenda."

"I have no hope whatsoever of changing BADecker mind, or whatever BitNow uses to do his thinking..." Translation. "Badecker and BitNow are two people I won't be able to mislead by my agenda."

"...but I do hope that I can reveal their arguments to be the unsupportable opinions they are." Translation. "But I hope that I can change the focus of other people by calling their facts opinions."

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But I don't think they're are any logical fallacies in BADecker words. It's just that there is no logic at all that's all. Everything is fine until you corner him somewhere and he just ignores parts of your arguments that he can't deal with Tongue

When he is trying to argue, the arguments regularly contain excluded middles, ad-hominem attacks and strawman arguments. Logic goes out the window only when that is pointed out to him.

Well, thank you again for showing us that the only thing you express about science proving the existence of God, is ad-hominem attacks in subtle form.

If you really believed that science didn't prove the existence of God in the ways that I have said, you would have provided some kind of scientific explanation or evidence backing beliefs up. Rather, you continually focus on me, and attempt to turn the science I use into, simply, my opinions.

Thank you for helping to confirm the science I express, by showing over and over again that you are unable to refute it. And thank you for making the confirmation even stronger, by using subtle ad-hominem attacks on me, thereby proving that you have no other capability.

The existence of God is a problem of Faith: you have it or you don't have it.

Use it wisely.

Best regards.

Well that seems to have solved it. So it seems we don't have it, ergo God doesn't exist.

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Quote from: organofcorti on February 04, 2016, 08:09:37 PM

You need science to prop up your faith in God. Christians I know have a very strong faith in God, without any need for science.
I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Star Wars reference! That's it! +1!! Man, I haven't laughed like this in a long time. Thank you!

Kudos to you - you're the first to get it. Have to admit, I was doing some sniggering myself when I wrote it.

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Quote from: organofcorti on February 05, 2016, 07:19:15 AM

I have no problem with faith. It's only when you try to present science as faith that I have a problem.

Of course you have a problem: you have no Faith!

Science comes from Wisdom which comes from fearing the Lord.

You are trying to get Science without Wisdom: there is no Science in stupidity, you need to find Wisdom!

Wisdom comes from fearing the Lord so you need to start to have Faith.

Quote from: organofcorti on February 05, 2016, 07:19:15 AM

I have no need to start a war against anything, but if I ever do I know just the wannabe genocidal maniac to get in touch with.

Instead arguing: starts to have Faith and you will find Wisdom and hence Science.

For any doubt or information feel free to ask.

Best regards.

It's like you're typing words without thinking. Your arguments make no sense.

I have reason to believe that at least some of the time BitNow is actually a chatbot.

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I proved that atheists hate religion, back on page 180/190.

Atheists hate religion because:
1. Atheism is a capital sin
1.1. Sin of idolatry (1st commandement - "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" Ex 20:3)
1.2. Punishment for idolatry is death (Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
2. You cannot love someone that want you dead.

(1) and (2) forms the thesis "atheists hate Religion".

Can you love your enemy organofcorti?

How can you hate something you don't believe in?

An atheist can't hate God because God doesn't exist...

Atheists love you, or they wouldn't spend so much time trying to educate you...

I'm sorry you are so blinded by your faith that you cannot see reason... perhaps some day you will join us

When an atheist says he doesn't believe in God, he is lying, even though he may not know it.

That makes no sense. Please do have some reason. Come on what does that even mean?

You know it's all his shitty argument explaining that he thinks atheism is just another religion...

Please don't make him say it again, it has absolutely no sense what's so ever...

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Quote from: BitNow on February 05, 2016, 07:24:15 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on February 05, 2016, 07:19:15 AM

I have no problem with faith. It's only when you try to present science as faith that I have a problem.

Of course you have a problem: you have no Faith!

Science comes from Wisdom which comes from fearing the Lord.

You are trying to get Science without Wisdom: there is no Science in stupidity, you need to find Wisdom!

Wisdom comes from fearing the Lord so you need to start to have Faith.

Quote from: organofcorti on February 05, 2016, 07:19:15 AM

I have no need to start a war against anything, but if I ever do I know just the wannabe genocidal maniac to get in touch with.

Instead arguing: starts to have Faith and you will find Wisdom and hence Science.

For any doubt or information feel free to ask.

Best regards.

It's like you're typing words without thinking. Your arguments make no sense.

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Quote from: valta4065 on February 06, 2016, 06:20:13 AM

Am I the only one who hates how BitNow always finish his posts by "bets regards" while saying horrible shit and how BADecker finishes by a comptemptful smile even though he just said horrible thins?

It doesn't worry me at all!

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Quote from: BADecker on February 04, 2016, 09:47:39 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 04, 2016, 04:50:38 PM

Quote from: BitNow on February 04, 2016, 04:29:18 PM

I proved that atheists hate religion, back on page 180/190.

Atheists hate religion because:
1. Atheism is a capital sin
1.1. Sin of idolatry (1st commandement - "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" Ex 20:3)
1.2. Punishment for idolatry is death (Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
2. You cannot love someone that want you dead.

(1) and (2) forms the thesis "atheists hate Religion".

Can you love your enemy organofcorti?

How can you hate something you don't believe in?

An atheist can't hate God because God doesn't exist...

Atheists love you, or they wouldn't spend so much time trying to educate you...

I'm sorry you are so blinded by your faith that you cannot see reason... perhaps some day you will join us

When an atheist says he doesn't believe in God, he is lying, even though he may not know it.

That makes no sense. Please do have some reason. Come on what does that even mean?

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Am I the only one who hates how BitNow always finish his posts by "bets regards" while saying horrible shit and how BADecker finishes by a comptemptful smile even though he just said horrible thins?

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