Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 266. (Read 901367 times)

Did you forget about the devil? There was a time that the devil was good. God had given the devil free will because of the joy of it. God gives joy. But the devil misused the joy and the free will, turning himself into THE destroyer (Abaddon and Apollyon of Revelation).

You talk about human tragedies like it is God's fault. If God hadn't sent Jesus into the picture right when Adam and Eve fell, this whole universe would be gone, starting right then. God sent Jesus to save us. This whole operation is far more complex than understood. After all, if you are going to talk about tragedies, what about death itself?

God owned it all. The devil usurped some of God's power. God corrected things in the best way. There will be a new universe (Revelation) where none of this one will ever be remembered or brought to mind (Isaiah).

The simple point is, where will you and I go from the resurrection? Life or destruction?

If you don't want to accept the hard proof of Newton's 3rd Law, I can't force you... don't even want to. Neither does God. But the proof I show is only the tip of the proof. Go through MakingMoneyHoney's posts from about a weak or two ago where she shows all kinds of links to all kinds of additional proofs for God, or Google for the sites.

With regard to the existence of God, science that suggests that God doesn't exist is very lame.

Actually, I'm one of those who until relatively recently was a pretty full on born again believer.  Then I realised that if God is real, then everytime a kid is raped or killed, or any other tradgedys that happen, they would all have to be done by him.  That if god were real he wants us to apologise for things that he makes us do just so we don't spend eternity in hell.  If fact when I set up my account here I was still a christian, my username is based on a famous bibe verse I use to live by.  

If god is not all powerful, then he cannot be god.  There is no logical reason to believe in the man in the sky.

Without meaning to cause offence, the "science" you quote is not science, it's similar to Ken Ham's style of pretending to say something scientific.

For science to prove god, there would need to be hard proof that could be tested and a god hypothosis that could be proven.

How do you know that they don't believe in the existence of God?

What do you call it when they believe, but they don't want to believe it so badly that they won't even look at the idea, or acknowledge anything in the direction of it?

What makes a scientist a great scientist? Is it greatness? Or might it be the media and those who publish the textbooks that are used in schools?

Besides, you can see the understanding that exists in the proof for God that I provided, right? If you don't see it, think about it. It's there. Or are you one of those who only looks at the science he likes to see?

Any explanation of the existence of the universe without God, is as much science fiction as not having reason for the existence of God. I haven't watched the video, and probably won't, because science has proven the existence of God as I have already shown.


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If science has proven the existence of God, why do almost all well-known scientists not believe in god?

Glad to reply.

First, I don't strongly believe in the existence of God. I know it. I know it from the scientific facts of cause and effect, complexity, and entropy (if from nothing else). These facts don't simply suggest God. They show the existence of God, scientifically. God is prompting both of us to know that He exists, and His response to me, personally, for acknowledging His existence is more proof that He exists.

The faith and belief part has to do with the attributes of God. Some of these can be guessed. Others of them can be found in the Bible. Some can be extrapolated somewhat from things we see around us in nature and life. Not all of them are known, and it is probable that we will never know all of them - His attributes.

"Allah" is simply the word for "God" in Arabic. In the way that the heart of a person recognizes the real God, the Christian and the Muslim both have the same God. The fact that we mentally recognize different attributes for God, shows that we have a difference in God/god.

Any explanation of the existence of the universe without God, is as much science fiction as not having reason for the existence of God. I haven't watched the video, and probably won't, because science has proven the existence of God as I have already shown.

Because atheists have turned their back on God Who they knew from infancy and early life, within themselves, even though they may not have known it in words and by some form of formal religion.


Quite the contrary. You only say that you don't believe in God. In times of great pain or great joy, you will find that you believe in God. What you have is a form of self control that maintains a fictional belief within yourself that you don't believe in God. In great pain or joy, it is very difficult to hang onto this fictional belief.


What? And you only saw the bad things? Consider. Before we had a welfare system in America, it was the church that helped people out. As it is now, the government and the banking system steals money from people in the form of taxes, and gives them to many unworthy welfare recipients. The churches never did that.


But no one is an atheist to the real God that holds his or her life in His hands. Even the atheists believe in the real God, and are fearful of Him. The only reason they don't act fearful most of the time is, God has given them enough peace that they will hopefully turn to Him and be saved... from death.



Perhaps someone has real evidence of fairies or unicorns existing. But science has the scientific facts that God exists. From https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13395762:

Why do people always assume that atheists hate god, and that something bad has happened to them in life that they blame him for.

As an atheist, I don't believe in god.  How can I hate something I don't believe in ?

I do hate seeing people become slaves to their religion of choice and doing horrendous things in the name of it.

Everyone is an atheist to 99+ gods that have been worshipped in the past both before and after jesus (or abraham for that matter)  most atheists just add one more god (the abrahamic one) onto that list.

Back to atheists hating god, this is much the same as saying I hate fairies or unicorns.  It's a ridiculous statement that only a christian could make.

Yes, that's called blind faith.

Excuse me, BADecker, Miao.
Why are you abandoning your religious commitments to the cats and all of mankind?
You have been picked to reveal the first chap of the sacred Miao book.  Don't try to shrink from the responsibility!  You need to forget about the fake jesus, and reveal the truth to the world!

The "TO STUPID FOR ME" part of your message is what it is all about.

All your stupid blah, blah, blah doesn't even respond to the point regarding the existence of God.

As long as you remain too stupid to recognize that God exists, all the things you say about Him are irrelevant.

Wake up and stop being stupid... while you still have time. Just because you don't like to hear or read the scientifically backed truth that God exists, doesn't change the science. It only shows your ignorance and stupidity more than ever.

WOW TO STUPID FOR ME..
you really are BRAIN WASHED WITH GOD..He doesn't need such stupidity and ignorance as. yours
YOU SAY..
YOU ARE STUPID..
PLUS IF THERE IS LIFE AFTER DEATH WELL I AM GOING THERE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE JUST WHAT HUMANS DO WHEN WE DIE. IF SUCH A THING
LAST POST BECAUSE I AM SICK TO DEATH WITH SUBJECT

NOW I KNOW WHY WE NEED THIS BIG WAR..
YOU ARE HITTING THE NAIL ON THE HEAD I NOW UNDERSTAND WHY..
I WILL NEVER POST ABOUT RELIGION AGAIN I HAVE HAD IT WITH IT ALL
RELIGION WILL NEVER BRING PEACE AND THANKS TO YOU I KNOW WHY...
I AM AMAZED HOW BLIND YOU ARE ..ANYWAY GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PREACHING I HAVE SAID ENOUGH ..AND YES I AM ANGRY WITH YOU BECAUSE OF HOW STUPID YOU ARE ON RELIGION..BUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH ABOUT NOTHING SOMETHING NOT THERE YOUR TALKING TO YOURSELF
DAFT SHIT..

BYE BADECKER NO MORE TALKING ABOUT RELIGION FOR ME I LET YOU RELIGIOUS FREAKS ARGUE OVER NOWT..
HERE IS A NEW YEAR MESSAGE AND HAPPY NEW YEAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtlO39wIRWs

This is absolutely good and right. In the same way, most of the religious people don't hate atheists. God Himself doesn't hate atheists. He simply wishes that they would turn to believe in Him, because He is their life. If they don't grab hold of Him, they will lose their very life and self, to say nothing about all that they think that they own.

Not all atheists hate religion... I've got atheist friends that doesnt hate religion anyway.

Piss you off? Are you starting to get violent already?

I have shown you how science has proven God to exist. And God isn't simply some little thing that is barely God. God is Something way beyond anything that people can comprehend. Consider...


Everything operates by cause and effect, action and reaction, Newton's 3rd Law. Whatever can make mankind-complexity over thousands of years of cause and effect, and maintain such complexity in the face of universal entropy, is so far beyond anything that we can think about, that we might as well quit trying, and simply accept.

For Him to make the minds of people via cause and effect like He has, He needs to be way beyond the minds of people in thinking ability. The dictionary and encyclopedia definitions of this Great First Cause, or whatever He may be is, GOD.


How dense can you and all the atheists get? You don't even believe the things your own religion of science tells you. The only thing God can do with the likes of you is totally get rid of you and your self-proclaimed and self-indulged ignorance. He doesn't need such stupidity and ignorance as yours.

ALSO on religion you people need to think if something rare happens its not gods doing it has to happen to someone why not you or me..its luck or bad luck.. chance..
if i work hard my chance is i will become rich but also i might not..
but if i don.t do any hard work my chance is zero of becoming rich
oh remember the kids the get mums and dads money someone still had to work hard to get that money so his kid could have a better life..

worship them selves BADECKER you are starting to really piss me off because how stupid you sound..
Does a plant think there is a supreme being do all the plant life go to heaven
Your know different from a plant its just lucky your a human instead of a banana.. but mind you i am starting to think you are a banana

OK let say there was a supreme being and i pray can he here me does he here my prayers?
because when you pray he can here yours you say.. and because you pray and read the bible the supreme being knows and that will take you to heaven because you have followed his rules in his manual I.E the bible..
also if i don.t do these things when i die i go to hell..
So why when i tell him to go and fuck himself that i would spit in his face and tell him to fuck off because of the suffering children..
Oh i do tell god if such a thing .. I say things like god go fuck yourself you horrible cunt if there is such a thing you got all that so called power and you let kids suffer ..fuck you cunt..waiting for something to happen..
YES I DO FIND IT FUNNY BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON US HUMANS LOVE TO TALK TO OUR OWN BRAIN..I.E WE MIND TALK i call it.. I.E if someone walks past with a funny hat on i would say to myself in my mind fuckin state of that hat and not say it out aloud..you get my point.. mind talk..
BACK TO POINT..
also i have died and i have told about NDE and what i seen when i died so why did this supreme being not think i will take this mans life away because he going to tell everyone what a cunt i am
so i wont bring him back
 after all he suppose to be able to see me read the bible and worshipping him to allow me to go to heaven..so sure he can here me telling him to piss off
 and he had the chance to take me but i come back to life ...So all that praying i hope it makes you money because reading the bible wont not unless you can set up your own church then bum off everyone a BEGGAR.
So talk sense you MORON
So why is my life good.. i am doing well and so are my children

Oh got a bad back because of hard work but i suppose your going to say its god punishing me :
I look at my children and that is all the god i need i am already in heaven or paradise 

Actually, atheists worship themselves. It may not be intentional worship, but when they suggest that there is no Supreme Being, they are making a suggestion that they are not qualified to make. Since they are not qualified to make it, they are setting themselves up higher than they should be. Thus, atheism IS a form of idolatry.

The Gospel of BADecker, the Enlightened One (miao be his name).

1. Many sleeps ago, in the time of miao there lived a rabid mob of diseased mongrels called the Anunnaki.  But their miao was not vital enough to even fool a child into feeding them whiskas, so they perished 4000 miao-miaos ago.  2. Their leader, who was like the Anunnaki, a HISSSSSSSSSSS (dog), was actually half-goat, half-dog, so it was said to be much smarter.  3. He was killed by the great heroes of miao.  4. His miao is tough like a cow's knee joints, so he undoubtedly he is scheduled to be resurrected. 5. They say that if you put a physical DOGE coin to your ear you can hear the tortured miao's and screeches of Felis that he has sucked into his "coin".   
2.1.... and when the Anunnaki's leader (he who shall not be named) returns, he shall deceive the whole world.    He shall turn cat against cat, human against cat, crash the leocoin, crash the bitcoin, crash pre-paid visa game point select reserve customer satisfaction guarantee cards. 2.2. Then he shall fly off in sputnik3 and out of our flat universe.
3.1. And the enlightened one spake "I know, I know. You forgot about the pigs. After all, here I am, doing one of the things that miao suggested I not do. I am casting my pearls before the swine".
3.2.Well, go on and rut around in your sewage filled mud. Enjoy for the short time that Miao gives you on this earth - probably less than 100 years. 3.3. But know that for the rutting around in the mud in this life, Miao will allow you to receive the mud of everlasting death that you are requesting.

Thank you for illuminating the topic once again enlightened one!

Atheists remove God and put a THING in there.

Worshipping a THING is called IDOLATRY (kind of what Muslims do with the Black Stone - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Stone).

Idolatry is a capital sin.


Best regards.