Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 262. (Read 901518 times)

Dude, if you really read the Bible (New Testament) then I am sure that you will gonna find the differences between religion and spirituality...

Don't search for the words because you will never find it, instead of think about how today our church look like and how should be as the Christ and the Apostles speaking in the New Testament. Plus, it is good that you have start to research the other religions, but let me remind of something... In the Old Testament, the Prophets talking about those people who are now a part of the Islam and Hinduism!

Here is some facts about the Bible and the 13.000 years b.c.e. history:
http://www.ancient-code.com/the-anunnaki/

P.S. The true atheist go against the Bible and the only atheist who was existed in the AD was Apostle Paul who was blinded before he start to believe!

I think you may have missed one of my previous posts, Its what i found when i searched for the AWARE study.

here you go

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You didn't answer my question!! Tell me, how can you talk about things that you never have experienced them?? Smiley

Quite easily. the same way i can talk about werewolves,vampires,santa claus,tooth fairy,lochness monster,zeus,hercules,big foot,mermaids,minotaurs,krampus,trolls,the kraken etc. Ive not experienced any of those but i can be quite confident in speaking about them because they are all myths.god fits perfectly in with the others i mentioned. Do you suggest i dont speak of these since i have not actually experienced any of them? maybe they are all real?

Dude, we are talking about NDE, not myths! Please be patient and answer my questions and then I will answer yours... Smiley

By the way, do you think that there is a difference between a myth and legend? If Yes, please explain me. And don't forget that you should first answer my first question and then we can go on the second! Wink

Sorry i misunderstood your last question about how can i talk about something ive never experienced, I thought you were talking about experiencing god or jesus which a lot of religious people seem to claim not experiencing an NDE. Obviously ive not experienced god or an NDE. Even if i did though i might be convinced  i went to heaven or wherever you go but that doesnt make it so. A convincing dream is still a dream. Id need to see whatever article or study you are using though before i can debunk it , I mean im no expert on NDE as i imagine you arent either and can only go by whatever study s have been done on them.

Why don't you try to debunk the AWARE study by proposing an alternative explanation for why a patient who has a flat EEG AND no blood flow is able to create a true memory of a perception that happened before the restoration of blood flow?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13349586

I managed to find your study http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2014/10/aware-study-results-finally-published-does-not-prove-life-after-death/

Although it is interesting its not conclusive of life after death
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The AWARE study has not proven the case for NDE’s or OBE’s
, Dont get me wrong, I like reading about these things and it would be great if there was something after death but even if the aware study did verify NDE's that doesnt necessarily mean that there is a god

I have made a little jpeg for you on Sato.sh
https://dm3usgzj99bvi.cloudfront.net/8020_2015_12_28_1451290778_large_godspark.jpg

Religion is gay and smelly, like old people.

That is because you are a rational atheist and a humanist, as described in the chapter called "What is Atheism" in Atheism and Secularity, Vol. 1.

I think you have had some time to do your research, so please answer me this:
Why should we view the results of the AWARE study with skepticism?

Is it not a documented case of perception and memory formation during brain death?

And what about the other people who have had NDEs involving veridical perception while they were brain dead?

Why the sarcasm? No ability to make your point directly? Let's get educated; shall we?

Read about domesticated plants, and domesticated man; also, cheetahs, a very strange breed of "cat"... or is it a "dog"; maybe a "catdog"??
http://www.whale.to/b/pye1.html

Why should we have false idols? Man has his OWN free will. I found for you the truth about cats in ancient Egypt:

I have pointed out that atheism is a lie, that all atheists/humanists oppose the scientific explanation known as the survival hypothesis as though their very lives depended upon it;
you cannot address the evidence supporting that hypothesis so instead you create false idol pretenses to distract and deny the truth? I did not get your point with the cats, so enough sarcasm my educated friend; it is time for you to please educate ME, but do not rush to exit this discussion like most of the other atheists in this thread; that makes me sad; I would like to be educated!

See GOD in yourself first--you are closer to GOD than you realize; JESUS SAID THAT GOD'S KINGDOM IS WITHIN YOU, not "here, God's Kingdom is here in the flesh in me, Jesus" or "there", for God's Kingdom does NOT come with observation (of history or events). He is telling you to join him on a higher level of consciousness.

Those who preach the ONENESS OF GOD (like the ancient Egyptians) and the brotherhood/sisterhood of humanity, These ones are blessed and true "prophets", the Peacemakers--whose guidance you must seek in your spiritual quest. Never the person--always the WORD!

So you might as well just sell all your doge now, because the POWER OF SIMBA, THE ANOINTED ONE.

I'm happy to report my cat seems to enjoy worship!
I believe the reason I am on this here Earth, is to now follow my cat around and provide constant attention, food whenever he wants it, turn the tap on, etc.
Undoubtedly, there are many others who see the spark of GOD in their cats.  With that in mind, I wish to thank the above posters for providing INSPIRATION IN SEEING THE REAL GOD.

I am hereby declaring the Church of the Latter Day Cats!

Church of the Latter Day Cats

The church's mission statement:
(MIAO) - opening prayer to Felis. SIMBA
The Church of the Latter Day Cats is devoted to the worship of
Felix. Domesticutypoos.  We are not your regular apocalyptic cat religion, no way! The church is here to facilitate peaceful relations between cats (miao) in general and humans in particular.
We aim to achieve this by leveraging enough doge coin, then dumping it, further eroding man's trust in dogs.  Which is where a cat will slink in, rub up against your leg and from that moment displace the dog from the family couch.
(miao MIAO).



     

Because... They don't believe in a religion?

You're the one who needs to learn to read... I  mentioned 100 CE - which is 100 AD in the old money.



Okay, thanks for the info, I didn't know that AD is in the old money...

Now let's get back to my questions... Tell me, if you see my explanation of the questions, then were you have found that we are talking about the same thing? Isn't be more fair from your side if you say that you don't know or you are not sure, instead of giving some funny answers? In my book, if I don't know something, then I will try to researched instead of talking non-sense like in your case.

First, Christ was mention in the books of Moses who are much older that most the people know (12-13.000 years bc). Second, in the New Testament Christ is mentioning Moses and all other Prophets who were writing the Old Testament. How can be possible that a person who was born in the AD to know all those people from the old era? Third, there are evidence and fact of all those Apostles together with John the Baptist who were living in time when Christ was walking on Earth... Coincidence?

this is from some guy or woman who wrote this above and my answer is below
just thought i show you they think its some kind of prophets who have seen the future



YES SO GO AND DO YOUR RESEARCH I SHALL TELL YOU NOW

Because CHRIST CAN MEAN ..smear or rub with oil,
In the Septuagint version of the Hebrew Bible, the word Christ was used to translate into Greek the Hebrew mashiach (messiah), meaning "anointed." Christós in classical Greek usage could mean covered in oil, or anointed, and is thus a literal translation of messiah.
 
But you seem to think its some TYPE OF MYSTIC MEG Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
So there for your playing Chinese whispers LIKE ALL RELIGIONS THEY ALL PLAY CHINESE WHISPERS..
And i suppose we humans love to play Chinese whispers no matter what we talk about..
So i suppose we need proof and you need to prove it to many people before we should believe
And that is were science comes into play..we prove its so then it becomes fact then we show it to the masses then it becomes absolute fact..

NOW YOU SHOW ME AND THE MASSES GOD... AND I WILL BELIEVE...
SO HERE IS A THOUGHT..

What if Jesus was gay and when he walked in the gay bars with all his boys some one said

OOOOH HERE IS THAT JESUS CHRIST THERE AND HIS FRIEND SAID WHAT DO YOU MEAN JESUS CHRIST AND HIS FRIEND SAID WELL I WAS BUMMING HIM THE OTHER NIGHT AND HE KEPT SCREAMING CHRIST CHRIST CHRIST...SO I CALL HIM JESUS CHRIST NOW  

So to all you gay hating bible freaks you might be worshipping a gay man  
Because now i know what Christ really means ..covered in oil or to smear oil HMMMMM sure sounds gay to me

WOW JUST HAD ANOTHER THOUGHT..
HEBREWS ARE JEWS..
And don.t believe in Jesus so what if they started to call him Jesus Christ a man who smears oil on himself.. I.E a gay man hMMMM..
So Christmas is a time to smear oil or rub oil over each other
So happy CHRISTMAS  

CHRIST MEANS SMEAR OIL.. MASS MEANS LOADS OF IT  
 IT PUTS A WHOLE NEW MEANING TO CHRISTMAS
a repeat from another thread but show me proof of a god and i will believe and the point is
see the way people make the bible up to suit them selves

Guys, guys!  My dog simply can't close her mouth, she has no free will.  If there is a pizza crust, or a piece of lemon short bread she cannot close her mouth.  I have now learnt that that is because there is no spark of god in her.
How did I not see that before? It's self-evident.!!!!

On the other hand, my cats seems to be able to close their mouths.  I understand that cats were worshiped in ancient Egypt.  Obviously its because they have a spark of god in them! they have free will!  They choose not to sit on my lap =(.

Well nice theory my educated brother, perhaps we could worship my cats together?

How stupid.


Best regards.

What in the world makes you think that people have free will? They only think they have free will. All they really have is complex instinct.

"You only need to see this"... is that not what the false religions teach?

"Just look here, but not anywhere else".

If I want to lose weight, I can simply close my mouth. The animals cannot DO the same because they don't have free will. What makes Man different from the animals is that man has a spark of GOD dwelling within him. You Know What intervened to give man the body and genes that he currently has so that man may evolve as a vessel housing that spark of GOD and realize the universal brotherhood of humankind. It's my educated conclusion (opinion) that I came to after thinking about the evidence that I have posted in this thread, including the Golden Rule which states that we are all ONE. The animals never realize that life is sacred because they don't KNOW anything, man is not primarily an animal, but a creature of reason so that is the part of man that must evolve.

Why do Atheists hate Religion? Because they hate themselves.   

Please don't take my post as questioning, I was merely stating that if you look around you, "in the wider sense" you will see that we are not (in the vast majority of cases) capable of controlling our natural instincts.
We fight for control, for our own personal beliefs. We kill to maintain control.
We kill for food, water, hate, anger, greed and  love... all these thing don't prove we are evil/good, they simply prove that we have inherent natural instincts that tell us we must survive. And to survive we must keep ourselves safe from prey, feed ourselves, and procreate.

My personal belief is that if we were all kind and decent people that would help a homeless person in the street, give a home to a refugee or freely give their time or wisdom to another human being with no intention of gain, then the world would be a much more intelligent place to live in.
However the vast majority of us are ill educated (myself included) greedy, dishonest people that seek nothing more than to tread on you to gain an advantage. Animals so to speak...

Again just my personal opinion, not right nor wrong, just mine. You are forever entitled to your own.

Actually, if you take a good look at domesticated plants, you will see that it is evidence against evolution as usually promoted, so how can we be animals when it is obvious that there was intervention?
http://www.whale.to/b/pye1.html

The only video('s comments) you need to see is : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-D8Mf9DdQI
Just look at the comments.

P.S: Oh , and an atheist here.

I would draw everyone attention to the fact that religion is nothing but a human invention, and as a human invention has many flaws that can never be rectified.

In truth I believe that we are many many generations away from realizing that we are all here... that's it! we are just here, all in the same place and time with no differences except those we choose to put upon each other.

Religion is basically a set of guidelines to live by. Unfortunately we as humans like to embellish, degrade and twist words, rules and laws to our own personal ends, this has and for the foreseeable future will always be the case.
We are what we are, nothing but animals in the wild.

Take a good look around you if you believe any different.



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