Because atheists are people without religion... They don't necessarily hate it, they just don't care about it.
Atheism is a religion itself
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Atheism is a religion itself
It is as I explained. Two + 2 never equals 4 because there are no two that are exactly like any other two. However, for simple, life-living, practical purposes, 2 + 2 = 4 works well, even though it is flawed in its perfection. The further we get into precise math regarding the operations of the fundamentals of the universe, the further we get away from correct understanding about things.
Being dependent on math for the complex things of the univers will ultimately present a false picture of what the universe is all about.
Jesus is God. He knows each "1" for the individual value that it is.
Sadly BADecker, here you are also wrong. If I want to know how many birds there are in a cage I don't need to know what kind they are, just that they are birds. It doesn't matter that they are not all the same bird, or even the same kind of bird.
Or if I have two stones and you give me two stones. I want to know "how many stones do I have", but you seem to want to know"How many stones do I have that are identical to the first stone?". In the first case the answer is "four", and in the second case the answer is "none".
The answers, of course, depend on which categories you want to count, and so your statement that "2 + 2 != 4" is incorrect and the rest of your argument can safely be ignored.
Should I even do this?
Even do what?
Birds in a cage are symbols to you, even if you see them. The word bird is a symbol. In your mind, the idea of two birds, that is, 1 bird and another bird are never the same. They aren't even the same in your mind. There is always 1 bird and 1 bird. The lie is a mild one, but it is a lie just the same.
No matter how many stones are suggested to be identical, they never are. We apply the word "stone" to each one, or we apply the words 4 stones to the group, but even in our mind we recognize that the stones are each individual, and therefore there are not four, but one of each.
No matter how many stones are suggested to be identical, they never are. We apply the word "stone" to each one, or we apply the words 4 stones to the group, but even in our mind we recognize that the stones are each individual, and therefore there are not four, but one of each.
How can you refer to a class then? Are you unable to classify things? Do you have a brain injury that prevents you from being able to group things by similarity?
However, it is handy to live our life in our modern countries using the small lie of mathematics. In the long run, however, lies are a part of what allow us to live only a hundred years or so rather than 200 or more.
Uh ... Mathematics either works or it does not. Maths can either do, or do not. There is no try. Maths can't lie and tell the truth at the same time.
Can you make any statement that does not rely on your imagination?
Being open minded is what helped me find out that atheism is a fictional religion. Didn't you see my response to one of your posts on the previous page - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13289691 ?
You apologised for calling atheism a religion already - the relevant post is quoted below. Did you already forget that, or are you making things up?
Most of what you post here is just your opinion back up with nonsense. Perhaps you could start bringing logic to your arguments? I would certainly take you seriously if you did.
I suppose we could argue. But that would be unprofitable.
Argument is usually profitable, if both sides are willing to listen.
When you Google or DuckDuckGo search on "atheism religion," you get many sites. Some suggest that atheism is a religion and some suggest that it is not.
Neither Google nor DuckDuckGo are authorities on the subject of atheism. Try an atheist site instead.
The point is, if atheism is NOT a religion, it is so extremely close to being a religion,
No. Really really no. That's not atheism at all.
that there is little to divide the two. A sampling of sites that suggest atheism is a religion, why, and how:
http://creation.com/atheism-a-religion
http://www.strangenotions.com/is-atheism-a-religion/
http://www.wnd.com/2014/03/atheism-is-a-religion/
So would you be happy to let atheists define religion? I think not. The links you supply are all religious in nature. How about you find an atheist site that describes atheism as a religion?
None of us disbelieve in god, we just don't care. Gods are irrelevant to the way we live.
I'm sorry. I apologize. I didn't really realize.
the core of atheism is to reject the existence of god and i dont think they have to hate religion in order to uphold his belief, atheist thinks religious people , or the people who follow any religion are in a illusion filled existence while religious people thinks that atheists are delusional 
and for the fact that many religion accept atheism like for example Hinduism , Buddhism , Jain etc
still do you think that atheists hate religion
and for the fact that many religion accept atheism like for example Hinduism , Buddhism , Jain etc
still do you think that atheists hate religion
These religious threads are always an eye opener for me, after so many myths have been put to rest over the centuries people still cling to their religions. It's fascinating.
Yep. Atheism religion and science religion have been around for thousands of years. As people become weaker in their ability to think (through natural devolution), science and atheism fiction grows.
Atheism fiction, I like that lol. You should be more open minded my friend.
Being open minded is what helped me find out that atheism is a fictional religion. Didn't you see my response to one of your posts on the previous page - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13289691 ?
Then there is all the irrefutable stuff MakingMoneyHoney points out, right in this thread, at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13261362.
It truly is time to be open minded.
These religious threads are always an eye opener for me, after so many myths have been put to rest over the centuries people still cling to their religions. It's fascinating.
Yep. Atheism religion and science religion have been around for thousands of years. As people become weaker in their ability to think (through natural devolution), science and atheism fiction grows.
Atheism fiction, I like that lol. You should be more open minded my friend.
These religious threads are always an eye opener for me, after so many myths have been put to rest over the centuries people still cling to their religions. It's fascinating.
Yep. Atheism religion and science religion have been around for thousands of years. As people become weaker in their ability to think (through natural devolution), science and atheism fiction grows.
Because atheists are people without religion... They don't necessarily hate it, they just don't care about it.
Atheism, the religion of non-religion. At least Buddhists recognize that their atheistic religion is a religion.
The WHAT??
"the small lie of mathematics."
Yeah, puny little mathematics.....
Trashing Maths to elevate your argument definitely won't work here.
"the small lie of mathematics."
Yeah, puny little mathematics.....
Trashing Maths to elevate your argument definitely won't work here.
Of course trashing math won't work. People would rather trash themselves by using math without understanding the major flaws in it. Trash people, not math.
These religious threads are always an eye opener for me, after so many myths have been put to rest over the centuries people still cling to their religions. It's fascinating.
Because atheists are people without religion... They don't necessarily hate it, they just don't care about it.
The WHAT??
"the small lie of mathematics."
Yeah, puny little mathematics.....
Trashing Maths to elevate your argument definitely won't work here.
"the small lie of mathematics."
Yeah, puny little mathematics.....
Trashing Maths to elevate your argument definitely won't work here.
It is as I explained. Two + 2 never equals 4 because there are no two that are exactly like any other two. However, for simple, life-living, practical purposes, 2 + 2 = 4 works well, even though it is flawed in its perfection. The further we get into precise math regarding the operations of the fundamentals of the universe, the further we get away from correct understanding about things.
Being dependent on math for the complex things of the univers will ultimately present a false picture of what the universe is all about.
Jesus is God. He knows each "1" for the individual value that it is.
Sadly BADecker, here you are also wrong. If I want to know how many birds there are in a cage I don't need to know what kind they are, just that they are birds. It doesn't matter that they are not all the same bird, or even the same kind of bird.
Or if I have two stones and you give me two stones. I want to know "how many stones do I have", but you seem to want to know"How many stones do I have that are identical to the first stone?". In the first case the answer is "four", and in the second case the answer is "none".
The answers, of course, depend on which categories you want to count, and so your statement that "2 + 2 != 4" is incorrect and the rest of your argument can safely be ignored.
Should I even do this?
Birds in a cage are symbols to you, even if you see them. The word bird is a symbol. In your mind, the idea of two birds, that is, 1 bird and another bird are never the same. They aren't even the same in your mind. There is always 1 bird and 1 bird. The lie is a mild one, but it is a lie just the same.
No matter how many stones are suggested to be identical, they never are. We apply the word "stone" to each one, or we apply the words 4 stones to the group, but even in our mind we recognize that the stones are each individual, and therefore there are not four, but one of each.
However, it is handy to live our life in our modern countries using the small lie of mathematics. In the long run, however, lies are a part of what allow us to live only a hundred years or so rather than 200 or more.
It is as I explained. Two + 2 never equals 4 because there are no two that are exactly like any other two. However, for simple, life-living, practical purposes, 2 + 2 = 4 works well, even though it is flawed in its perfection. The further we get into precise math regarding the operations of the fundamentals of the universe, the further we get away from correct understanding about things.
Being dependent on math for the complex things of the univers will ultimately present a false picture of what the universe is all about.
Jesus is God. He knows each "1" for the individual value that it is.
Sadly BADecker, here you are also wrong. If I want to know how many birds there are in a cage I don't need to know what kind they are, just that they are birds. It doesn't matter that they are not all the same bird, or even the same kind of bird.
Or if I have two stones and you give me two stones. I want to know "how many stones do I have", but you seem to want to know"How many stones do I have that are identical to the first stone?". In the first case the answer is "four", and in the second case the answer is "none".
The answers, of course, depend on which categories you want to count, and so your statement that "2 + 2 != 4" is incorrect and the rest of your argument can safely be ignored.
To be honest seeing us living in a simulation seems more logical to me than some almighty omnipresent being that has control over everything. the idea that we only have this one life to prove our worth for all eternity just doesnt seem like the kind of thing an all powerful being would do. god is a man made creation, he/it was written about by man, and has mans crazy obsession for power and acceptance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E15IC3YKv8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E15IC3YKv8g
It is as I explained. Two + 2 never equals 4 because there are no two that are exactly like any other two. However, for simple, life-living, practical purposes, 2 + 2 = 4 works well, even though it is flawed in its perfection. The further we get into precise math regarding the operations of the fundamentals of the universe, the further we get away from correct understanding about things.
Being dependent on math for the complex things of the univers will ultimately present a false picture of what the universe is all about.
Jesus is God. He knows each "1" for the individual value that it is.
On one hand you say nothing is perfect and question the very fabric of reality (maths) yet on the other hand you promote a fictitious concept that is flawed in even it's most basic level (God) which is borderline hypocritically stupid, not you, the idea.
As such I must come to one conclusion that you sir are a troll.
On one had you miss represent me. I am simply showing our inaccuracy in the ways we use math.
Next, you would rather keep people from recognizing the flawed math usage, so that people can continue to work in flawed ways.
Further, you keep on denying the existence of God right in the face of proof.
Troll isn't strong enough for you. You are more like liar and propagandist.
lol WHAT proof? Tell your GOD to clean my toilet maybe then I'll believe you LMAO.
Proof right here in this thread - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13289691.
However, you might not be smart enough to put it together.
Too, bad. We don't want to lose your soul in Hell. Eternity is such a long time that we need even you to talk to in Heaven, just to keep from going mad. But, your choice.
It is as I explained. Two + 2 never equals 4 because there are no two that are exactly like any other two. However, for simple, life-living, practical purposes, 2 + 2 = 4 works well, even though it is flawed in its perfection. The further we get into precise math regarding the operations of the fundamentals of the universe, the further we get away from correct understanding about things.
Being dependent on math for the complex things of the univers will ultimately present a false picture of what the universe is all about.
Jesus is God. He knows each "1" for the individual value that it is.
On one hand you say nothing is perfect and question the very fabric of reality (maths) yet on the other hand you promote a fictitious concept that is flawed in even it's most basic level (God) which is borderline hypocritically stupid, not you, the idea.
As such I must come to one conclusion that you sir are a troll.
On one had you miss represent me. I am simply showing our inaccuracy in the ways we use math.
Next, you would rather keep people from recognizing the flawed math usage, so that people can continue to work in flawed ways.
Further, you keep on denying the existence of God right in the face of proof.
Troll isn't strong enough for you. You are more like liar and propagandist.
lol WHAT proof? Tell your GOD to clean my toilet maybe then I'll believe you LMAO.
Atheist here. Im sure this has been said before but i dont want to read through 163 pages of post. I wouldnt say i hate religion but i hate whats done in the name of religion. I also dont know why people put so much faith in religion. i would have thought people would see through it by the time you stop beleiving in the tooth fairy, santa etc. i suppose for most people its nothing more than brain washing. if your told from birth that thats the way it is i suppose its hard to remove it, some manage most dont. I honestly find it ridiculous that people beleive in their religion in this day and age.
See I believe in my religion but I am not brainwashed because my religion teaches me to be polite , honest and be good and helpful to everyone so it's up to us how we take it because brainwashers are everywhere in the world and a smart person will understand that. By the way you are right I have some friends who are Atheist and they don't hate religion.
I would love to be enlightened but for most non religious folk its fairly evident that religion was made by men to control men. And it's worked well to some extent. I would be interested in some scientific evidence of your god though.
My god?
The evidence for the God over all, as I have often written, is found in combining these three things:
1. Newton's 3rd law, action and reaction (cause and effect);
2. complex universe, with focus on the brain and mind of mankind;
3. Simple entropy - not all the theoretical stuff about entropy.
Really though, there is a lot more that upholds what the above three things say.
EDIT: Also, the link in the post directly above this one has excellent points in it.
Focus on Mankind's brain? Even Mick Foley would find that hard to digest.
That's equivalent to claiming that the the Sahara exists for a single molecule inside of a particular single grain of sand.
You epitomize; either intentionally (probably) or otherwise, the hypocrisy of all things a religious man stands for and for that sir I love you, you continue to give atheism a new reason to hate 'all things religious'. Perhaps that is your purpose.
See? There you go, miss representing the things that I said. You are Troll extraordinaire.
Reread it, folks.
It is as I explained. Two + 2 never equals 4 because there are no two that are exactly like any other two. However, for simple, life-living, practical purposes, 2 + 2 = 4 works well, even though it is flawed in its perfection. The further we get into precise math regarding the operations of the fundamentals of the universe, the further we get away from correct understanding about things.
Being dependent on math for the complex things of the univers will ultimately present a false picture of what the universe is all about.
Jesus is God. He knows each "1" for the individual value that it is.
On one hand you say nothing is perfect and question the very fabric of reality (maths) yet on the other hand you promote a fictitious concept that is flawed in even it's most basic level (God) which is borderline hypocritically stupid, not you, the idea.
As such I must come to one conclusion that you sir are a troll.
On one had you miss represent me. I am simply showing our inaccuracy in the ways we use math.
Next, you would rather keep people from recognizing the flawed math usage, so that people can continue to work in flawed ways.
Further, you keep on denying the existence of God right in the face of proof.
Troll isn't strong enough for you. You are more like liar and propagandist.
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