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December 23, 2015, 02:47:09 AM
I started to read this thread, but it's very long, and it seems to be based on the belief that agnostics are atheists. This is not true.
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December 23, 2015, 02:32:53 AM
if i was god and i am sure most would agree if you can make the earth in 7 days you would make sure kids don.t suffer ..or did god forget to do this Undecided Undecided

my words above your words below

There weren't any kids back then. God has given freedom. If you have kids, it is your fault for not teaching them that their freedom comes from God, and that it is their own fault for not following God

But you said god is always with us and god can never die .So where is god now or as he grown to old and has gone blind and deaf  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
see how you slipped up
there was no kids back then Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
He can still see them now or is he dead Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
which is it ...he is alive or dead make your mind up badecker DEAD OR ALIVE
well if he is alive what about sick kids GOD you horrible little shit what is giving cancer to kids all about..so is he alive if he is alive then he is a liitle ass hole shit and i never want to go to heaven

and if he is dead well he aint much of a god then Grin Grin

SO BADECKER EXPLAIN TO ME IS GOD DEAD OR ALIVE Grin
plus plenty of religious people and there kids get cancer so all that praying for what
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December 23, 2015, 02:08:49 AM
The odds are that your personal religion isn't the right one.
No, you get the benefit of doubt and you won't be considered wrong until proven one ? you don't need to fuck around your whole life searching for which one is to be true.
Did God tell you that?

In the Bible God tells us that we need to believe God, which amounts to believing in the promised Messiah (O.T.), Who is revealed in the N.T. to be Jesus. The Bible also indicates that the only way to believe is by hearing or reading the Bible. The thing that God doesn't really tell us is whether or not there is some other way to hear than by literally hearing the Bible being read.

yes but All God's say the same for every Religion and in every book of theirs ?
Actually, all the books are different. All the gods are different. And The Bible is the ONLY book that talks about God sending His Son to save the world by taking the punishment for the sins of everybody.
Have you read all the books ? I don't think a Man can in all of his lifetime.

What do you mean "and no they don't preach to stones we find on the streets .It's the specialty?"
It means that people don't worhip stuff which is not special or generally connected to human life. Like the keyboard and cpu we use daily.
But they follow which has a connection to the super-natural powers/beings
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December 23, 2015, 01:10:52 AM
The odds are that your personal religion isn't the right one.
No, you get the benefit of doubt and you won't be considered wrong until proven one ? you don't need to fuck around your whole life searching for which one is to be true.
Did God tell you that?

In the Bible God tells us that we need to believe God, which amounts to believing in the promised Messiah (O.T.), Who is revealed in the N.T. to be Jesus. The Bible also indicates that the only way to believe is by hearing or reading the Bible. The thing that God doesn't really tell us is whether or not there is some other way to hear than by literally hearing the Bible being read.

yes but All God's say the same for every Religion and in every book of theirs ?
Actually, all the books are different. All the gods are different. And The Bible is the ONLY book that talks about God sending His Son to save the world by taking the punishment for the sins of everybody.


"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

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So which religion and what rules did Apes used to follow ? and how came they were able to read Bibble and other similar stuff when there was no English Language invented back then.

Apes followed the true religion of God which includes the Laws of Nature.

What's a Bibble? If you meant Bible, the Bible wasn't written back then. The original language of the Bible that Moses started writing it in (much later than the Beginning) was probably ancient Hebrew. However, he could have written it in ancient Egyptian and translated it into Hebrew later. But we don't have any evidence of this, and I have never heard of any Jewish tradition regarding this.

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what religion of God ? laws of nature is not a religion and will never be cause nature doesn't needs to be worshiped nor to be assumed supernatural

At the time of the Beginning, the Law of Nature included all of the Law of God. There was no need for a Gospel, yet, because there was no sin at the Beginning.

The pure Law of Nature (which doesn't exist today because of sin) was indeed the only religion around at the time of the Beginning. In addition, supernatural doesn't necessarily have anything to do with religious requirements. Over the centuries, many people bowed down to statues and carvings, even though these have no supernatural ability whatsoever. Religion isn't necessarily connected to the supernatural.

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They worship the statues cause they believe it has some supernatural abilities and no they don't preach to stones we find on the streets .It's the specialty

There are religions where shamans or witchdoctors use bones to determine some religious things. So, you probably can find some religions that used stones in the past. And maybe there are some around today.

What do you mean "and no they don't preach to stones we find on the streets .It's the specialty?"

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December 23, 2015, 01:01:12 AM
The odds are that your personal religion isn't the right one.
No, you get the benefit of doubt and you won't be considered wrong until proven one ? you don't need to fuck around your whole life searching for which one is to be true.
Did God tell you that?

In the Bible God tells us that we need to believe God, which amounts to believing in the promised Messiah (O.T.), Who is revealed in the N.T. to be Jesus. The Bible also indicates that the only way to believe is by hearing or reading the Bible. The thing that God doesn't really tell us is whether or not there is some other way to hear than by literally hearing the Bible being read.

yes but All God's say the same for every Religion and in every book of theirs ?

"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

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So which religion and what rules did Apes used to follow ? and how came they were able to read Bibble and other similar stuff when there was no English Language invented back then.

Apes followed the true religion of God which includes the Laws of Nature.

What's a Bibble? If you meant Bible, the Bible wasn't written back then. The original language of the Bible that Moses started writing it in (much later than the Beginning) was probably ancient Hebrew. However, he could have written it in ancient Egyptian and translated it into Hebrew later. But we don't have any evidence of this, and I have never heard of any Jewish tradition regarding this.

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what religion of God ? laws of nature is not a religion and will never be cause nature doesn't needs to be worshiped nor to be assumed supernatural

At the time of the Beginning, the Law of Nature included all of the Law of God. There was no need for a Gospel, yet, because there was no sin at the Beginning.

The pure Law of Nature (which doesn't exist today because of sin) was indeed the only religion around at the time of the Beginning. In addition, supernatural doesn't necessarily have anything to do with religious requirements. Over the centuries, many people bowed down to statues and carvings, even though these have no supernatural ability whatsoever. Religion isn't necessarily connected to the supernatural.

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They worship the statues cause they believe it has some supernatural abilities and no they don't preach to stones we find on the streets .It's the specialty
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December 23, 2015, 12:45:30 AM
The odds are that your personal religion isn't the right one.
No, you get the benefit of doubt and you won't be considered wrong until proven one ? you don't need to fuck around your whole life searching for which one is to be true.
Did God tell you that?

In the Bible God tells us that we need to believe God, which amounts to believing in the promised Messiah (O.T.), Who is revealed in the N.T. to be Jesus. The Bible also indicates that the only way to believe is by hearing or reading the Bible. The thing that God doesn't really tell us is whether or not there is some other way to hear than by literally hearing the Bible being read.


"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

Smiley
So which religion and what rules did Apes used to follow ? and how came they were able to read Bibble and other similar stuff when there was no English Language invented back then.

Apes followed the true religion of God which includes the Laws of Nature.

What's a Bibble? If you meant Bible, the Bible wasn't written back then. The original language of the Bible that Moses started writing it in (much later than the Beginning) was probably ancient Hebrew. However, he could have written it in ancient Egyptian and translated it into Hebrew later. But we don't have any evidence of this, and I have never heard of any Jewish tradition regarding this.

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what religion of God ? laws of nature is not a religion and will never be cause nature doesn't needs to be worshiped nor to be assumed supernatural

At the time of the Beginning, the Law of Nature included all of the Law of God. There was no need for a Gospel, yet, because there was no sin at the Beginning.

The pure Law of Nature (which doesn't exist today because of sin) was indeed the only religion around at the time of the Beginning. In addition, supernatural doesn't necessarily have anything to do with religious requirements. Over the centuries, many people bowed down to statues and carvings, even though these have no supernatural ability whatsoever. Religion isn't necessarily connected to the supernatural.

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December 23, 2015, 12:31:59 AM
The odds are that your personal religion isn't the right one.
No, you get the benefit of doubt and you won't be considered wrong until proven one ? you don't need to fuck around your whole life searching for which one is to be true.

"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

Smiley
So which religion and what rules did Apes used to follow ? and how came they were able to read Bibble and other similar stuff when there was no English Language invented back then.

Apes followed the true religion of God which includes the Laws of Nature.

What's a Bibble? If you meant Bible, the Bible wasn't written back then. The original language of the Bible that Moses started writing it in (much later than the Beginning) was probably ancient Hebrew. However, he could have written it in ancient Egyptian and translated it into Hebrew later. But we don't have any evidence of this, and I have never heard of any Jewish tradition regarding this.

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what religion of God ? laws of nature is not a religion and will never be cause nature doesn't needs to be worshiped nor to be assumed supernatural
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December 23, 2015, 12:27:49 AM
"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

Smiley
So which religion and what rules did Apes used to follow ? and how came they were able to read Bibble and other similar stuff when there was no English Language invented back then.

Apes followed the true religion of God which includes the Laws of Nature.

What's a Bibble? If you meant Bible, the Bible wasn't written back then. The original language of the Bible that Moses started writing it in (much later than the Beginning) was probably ancient Hebrew. However, he could have written it in ancient Egyptian and translated it into Hebrew later. But we don't have any evidence of this, and I have never heard of any Jewish tradition regarding this.

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December 23, 2015, 12:22:36 AM
"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

Smiley
So which religion and what rules did Apes used to follow ? and how came they were able to read Bibble and other similar stuff when there was no English Language invented back then.
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December 23, 2015, 12:18:21 AM
4,200 listed on Wikipedia ..there is far too many to hate LOL

FOUR THOUSAND different "groups" of creepy weirdos all preaching their weird ass God bullshit is the REAL one  Roll Eyes

Listen up stupid alien infected sinners !
Get to an eMeter pronto and get your Thetan count checked ASAP !

Well, you had better start checking them all out soon. Why? The odds are that your personal religion isn't the right one.

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December 23, 2015, 12:16:05 AM
Because atheists are defined as people who hate religion.

Sure would like reference to that definition. Or is it your definition that you posted here?

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December 23, 2015, 12:15:01 AM
Because atheists are defined as people who hate religion.

wrong

Open Google then enter this..
Code:
define:atheists

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a·the·ist
ˈāTHēəst/
noun
plural noun: atheists

    a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
    "he is a committed atheist"
    synonyms:   nonbeliever, disbeliever, unbeliever, skeptic, doubter, doubting Thomas, agnostic; nihilist
    "why is it often assumed that a man of science is probably an atheist?"
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December 23, 2015, 12:13:50 AM
We were made in the image of God. We are eternal. It will take an eternity to destroy the eternal soul in Hell. It won't be fun.
If it's not fun then why does god comes and makes the shit serious ? why the wait of thousands of years ?
The thousand years spoken of in the Revelation is figurative for "a long period of time." The beginning of this long period of time was at the time that Jesus arose from the dead. We are living in the long period of time right now. It exists so that you and a lot of other people like you have ample opportunity to change your minds about God, become believers, and be saved.


"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

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December 23, 2015, 12:11:13 AM
Because atheists are defined as people who hate religion.
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December 23, 2015, 12:10:52 AM
4,200 listed on Wikipedia ..there is far too many to hate LOL

FOUR THOUSAND different "groups" of creepy weirdos all preaching their weird ass God bullshit is the REAL one  Roll Eyes

Listen up stupid alien infected sinners !
Get to an eMeter pronto and get your Thetan count checked ASAP !
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December 23, 2015, 12:04:22 AM
We were made in the image of God. We are eternal. It will take an eternity to destroy the eternal soul in Hell. It won't be fun.
If it's not fun then why does god comes and makes the shit serious ? why the wait of thousands of years ?

"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.
Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?
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December 22, 2015, 08:57:37 PM
YOUR NOT LOGICAL When it comes to the question Why do Atheists hate Religion
First, the way you are using the word "YOUR" is wrong. You are using it as a contraction. "YOUR" is not a contraction. You would spell it "YOU'RE" if you knew what you were talking about.


You make it all up you are a dreamer a coo koo Cheesy
Anyone can make things up. But I have logical and reasonable explanations for the things I say, but you don't seem to have any explanations at all.


point1 there is no god
I know that it is difficult to think out the explanation I have written two posts above. So you have your excuse this time.


god created the earth in 7 days but gives children cancer makes no sense
God created this wonderful universe in 6 days, but people listen to and follow the devil to their own hurt. Makes no sense. But they keep on trying to ignore God, Who is trying to save them.



if i was god and i am sure most would agree if you can make the earth in 7 days you would make sure kids don.t suffer ..or did god forget to do this Undecided Undecided
There weren't any kids back then. God has given freedom. If you have kids, it is your fault for not teaching them that their freedom comes from God, and that it is their own fault for not following God.


so just for that reason alone i know there is no god i rest my case ..
and if there is one he not much of a god to be worshipped if he lets children suffer
God owns all. If it were His desire to make trouble for people, He would have the right.

You defy God. Yet He doesn't increase your trouble for doing so. He is giving you a chance to turn to Him and be saved from the trouble you are making for yourself.


plus he clicks his fingers and created the day and night SO TELL GOD TO CLICK HIS FINGERS AND MAKE EVERY CHILD HAPPY AND SICK FREE
wont happen because there is no god
It has already been set in place that this will be done.

God has set a time when this univrse will be destroyed. A new universe that doesn't have any of the qualities of this old one will appear. If you accept the salvation made by Jesus, you can be part of that new universe, where there will be no pain or trouble, but only joy and glory.

But you don't want to do this, do you. So you see? You are self condemned already.


when all religion goes the better the planet will be  Grin Grin
PLEASE DON.T SAY IT BADECKER blah blah blah blah your are religious because you do something every day..you know i mean GODS WHEN I TALK RELIGION..

How do I know what you mean except by the things that you say? As long as one person exists, there will be religion. All people have religion. It isn't my idea. That is simply the way it is.

But thank you for giving me this incentive to write. Other people just might look at this post and be saved. So, thank you on behalf of those other people.

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December 22, 2015, 08:32:27 PM
I will share you a scientific research where people speak what they see after they back from the death:
Rofl... dude whatever you see is just what you think and are familiar with and no there is no scientific research on people ever who came back to life after death,Wikipedia is crap.

Why Wikipedia is crap?


Best regards.

Because anyone can sign up to change anything in Wiki the way that they want. If there are trolls out there, they can change Wiki to produce lies all over the place. In fact, they have done this already, where medical trolls have changed good nutritional info to lies that attempt to promote stupid medicine.

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Still preaching your bullshit BADECKER  Cheesy Cheesy

BECAUSE ITS OLDEN DAY THINKING  Grin
21ST CENTURY GROW UP THICK PEOPLE..OH AND SANTA CLAUSE IS COMING TO TOWN Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


It's rather a shame that the only times the things you say make sense is when you agree with what I say. It might be fun getting a new, logical view.

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YOUR NOT LOGICAL When it comes to the question Why do Atheists hate Religion

You make it all up you are a dreamer a coo koo Cheesy
point1 there is no god
god created the earth in 7 days but gives children cancer makes no sense
if i was god and i am sure most would agree if you can make the earth in 7 days you would make sure kids don.t suffer ..or did god forget to do this Undecided Undecided

so just for that reason alone i know there is no god i rest my case ..
and if there is one he not much of a god to be worshipped if he lets children suffer

plus he clicks his fingers and created the day and night SO TELL GOD TO CLICK HIS FINGERS AND MAKE EVERY CHILD HAPPY AND SICK FREE
wont happen because there is no god
when all religion goes the better the planet will be  Grin Grin
PLEASE DON.T SAY IT BADECKER blah blah blah blah your are religious because you do something every day..you know i mean GODS WHEN I TALK RELIGION..

OH sorry in 6 days 7 day is day of worship and rest so one of my family member says because he wont work on sundays lazy shit he is just an excuse to get off overtime double bubble Cheesy

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December 22, 2015, 08:22:47 PM
Our souls are not immortal. We get the gift of an immortal soul through faith in Jesus.
Jesus never said anything like that. Actually, he urged you NOT to worship him. Of course, you would never suspect this if you only read 4 of the 28 written gospels, i.e. the four that were approved by the Church of Rome.
But wait, MMH knew this already, because...
I don't ignore anything, I have my eyes wide open.
Yet she still trys to deceive us into worshiping Jesus.
Never ceases to amaze me how low these cult members stoop. Must be one of those wolve's in sheep's clothing sort we need to watch out for.


The important part is that she is trying to get you to Worship Jesus God. If you won't, and if you don't, you will be causing your own destruction. Don't say that she and I didn't warn you when the time comes.

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December 22, 2015, 08:19:15 PM

Its taken the advancement of technology to be able to communicate findings and ideas to advance civilisation, remember its not that long ago that it was beleived the world was flat, thunder and natural disasters were the act of god etc. with good knowledge a civilisation could be easily tricked in the past, even now in undeveloped countries people are tricked by people into thinking they have magical powers.
It has taken the so-called advancement of technology to cause people to think that they are advanced.

For example. Thousands of years ago people were able to move gigantic blocks of stone, weighing up to a thousand tons each, over hundreds of miles, so that they could set up wonderful buildings and monuments.

We don't have the technology to do this today. But, we could probbly devise some technology that could do this. However, if we did, we still couldn't move the stones. Why not? Because our economies are so weak that we couldn't afford building the equipment that it would take, or making the move if the equipment happened to be built. Yet, the ancients of thousands of years ago did it. They were advanced beyond what we are.


I would be confident to say that jesus may have even existed but using tricks and manipulation could fool people into believing he was some sort of prophet and even the son of the most popular god of the time.
However, you and those like you would attempt to fool people into thinking that we have knowledge of all kinds of things that we don't. If you had simply said something like, "we don't know if Jesus had special power or not," or "we aren't sure what God is like," then you might possibly have enough humility to understand that in the basics of life we are behind the ancients, even though we have a bunch of so-called technology.


Also ive mentioned it in a few posts back but im just going to put this out here for you again because im not sure your definition of religion and mine are the same.
All you have to do is look at the standard dictionary definitions of the word "religion" to see what my definitions are. Anybody can make up new definitions to words. Is that what you are doing with the word "religion?"


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the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Sounds like you aren't smart enough to put together the concepts:
1. cause and effect;
2. universal complexity;
3. universal entropy;
to see that they say "God."

Religion isn't about the existence of God. Religion is about His attributes. We can see in nature that God exists... except if we are blind, like you seem to saying that you are.

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