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May 27, 2015, 11:16:31 PM
We don't hate religion we just think that many people who have religion push their beliefs on others (ex. pilgrims Hitler the people who landed in South America etc.). it IS a cause of war, violence, and such, but so is everything else. i think religion is uncertain and no one should claim to know because that just causes arguments (agnostic). I think that many problems are caused by religion, I do however, encourage people to have their own way of thinking. MY only problem is when people start pushing their opinions on me. that is MY personal opinion, you may have your own, she may think this, he may think that, and if you are trying to convince me of some mythical creature, shut the hell up. One of my friends earlier today said, "You don't believe in God, get a life." I didn't say anything, but i was thinking wtf. I see the irony in the fact that there are plenty of people out there willing to cause harm for their religion, when the situation is as you put it, "When most religions are against such things," but many religions who believe these things have their share of violence. Hitler for example. He WAS Catholic and how did that turn out? Yeah. Not so well. I do admit that some Atheists can be rather critical, but I do agree with the first commenter, you do sometimes make it easy to criticize....
To put it plain and simple, I share the same opinion as seasnake, to some extent. It has caused much harm.


i totally agree with you. i dont believe in forcing religion on someone who does not believe in it. what i find interesting tho is sharing thoughts with people who are opposite of my thoughts, its a very nice way to learn the psychology of the mind. and since i love talking ....
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May 27, 2015, 11:14:09 PM
We don't hate religion we just think that many people who have religion push their beliefs on others (ex. pilgrims Hitler the people who landed in South America etc.). it IS a cause of war, violence, and such, but so is everything else. i think religion is uncertain and no one should claim to know because that just causes arguments (agnostic). I think that many problems are caused by religion, I do however, encourage people to have their own way of thinking. MY only problem is when people start pushing their opinions on me. that is MY personal opinion, you may have your own, she may think this, he may think that, and if you are trying to convince me of some mythical creature, shut the hell up. One of my friends earlier today said, "You don't believe in God, get a life." I didn't say anything, but i was thinking wtf. I see the irony in the fact that there are plenty of people out there willing to cause harm for their religion, when the situation is as you put it, "When most religions are against such things," but many religions who believe these things have their share of violence. Hitler for example. He WAS Catholic and how did that turn out? Yeah. Not so well. I do admit that some Atheists can be rather critical, but I do agree with the first commenter, you do sometimes make it easy to criticize....
To put it plain and simple, I share the same opinion as seasnake, to some extent. It has caused much harm.
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May 27, 2015, 11:13:02 PM
We didn't exist before our brain existed, therefore there is no justifiable reason to believe we exist after our brain ceases functioning.

If you want to suggest otherwise then it is your responsibility to present sufficient evidence to support your claim.



no need to make it personal about gathering claims and proofs when you know that its not possible to know what happens after death.. it was just a question that i believe not just me have asked about it... ive asked what you think happens thats all
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May 27, 2015, 11:05:11 PM
We didn't exist before our brain existed, therefore there is no justifiable reason to believe we exist after our brain ceases functioning.

If you want to suggest otherwise then it is your responsibility to present sufficient evidence to support your claim.

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May 27, 2015, 10:39:20 PM
but i would like to ask to an atheist what happens after death?
Lots of things, but none of them will involve you. The universe keeps spinning totally indifferent to your existence, as if you never existed at all.

The universe won't care, and you won't care either. Only your loved ones will be affected.

what happens to YOU. not the universe because thats obvious
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May 27, 2015, 07:40:58 PM
but i would like to ask to an atheist what happens after death?
Lots of things, but none of them will involve you. The universe keeps spinning totally indifferent to your existence, as if you never existed at all.

The universe won't care, and you won't care either. Only your loved ones will be affected.
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May 27, 2015, 05:42:45 PM
Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.

but its quite scary to think we were wrong and will burn in hell.

It not remotely scary. This burning in hell thing is a ploy used by the church to increase their followers. Wise people ignore it.
Just enjoy life and stop worrying about your inevitable death. You can't stop it, it's as natural as eating, breathing etc, so why worry?


yeah i do agree it has yet to be proven. but all religion speaks of hell as burning fire. all religion even tho they have their differences and beliefs speaks about the same subject, im not saying they are right or they are wrong. but its just a thought i wanted to point out.

i do agree with you, death is inevitable.

Fear is a tired and tested method of recruiting new members. Ask Hitler. Ask ISIS. Ask the church.

It works.


we all fear something in some way. the only thing that tickles my mind when i hear something or see something is what if, thats what gave me the mind i have today. critical thinking. always a what if situation. am glad am like that.

and you forgot to say : ask the mainstream media, ask the govt
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May 27, 2015, 05:30:00 PM
Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.

but its quite scary to think we were wrong and will burn in hell.

It not remotely scary. This burning in hell thing is a ploy used by the church to increase their followers. Wise people ignore it.
Just enjoy life and stop worrying about your inevitable death. You can't stop it, it's as natural as eating, breathing etc, so why worry?


yeah i do agree it has yet to be proven. but all religion speaks of hell as burning fire. all religion even tho they have their differences and beliefs speaks about the same subject, im not saying they are right or they are wrong. but its just a thought i wanted to point out.

i do agree with you, death is inevitable.

Fear is a tired and tested method of recruiting new members. Ask Hitler. Ask ISIS. Ask the church.

It works.
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May 27, 2015, 05:21:35 PM
Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.

but its quite scary to think we were wrong and will burn in hell.

It not remotely scary. This burning in hell thing is a ploy used by the church to increase their followers. Wise people ignore it.
Just enjoy life and stop worrying about your inevitable death. You can't stop it, it's as natural as eating, breathing etc, so why worry?


yeah i do agree it has yet to be proven. but all religion speaks of hell as burning fire. all religion even tho they have their differences and beliefs speaks about the same subject, im not saying they are right or they are wrong. but its just a thought i wanted to point out.

i do agree with you, death is inevitable.
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May 27, 2015, 05:18:50 PM
Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.

you believe in devil? o.O thats weird.

Not really. But it winds up BADecker. Cheesy
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May 27, 2015, 05:17:28 PM
Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.

but its quite scary to think we were wrong and will burn in hell.

It not remotely scary. This burning in hell thing is a ploy used by the church to increase their followers. Wise people ignore it.
Just enjoy life and stop worrying about your inevitable death. You can't stop it, it's as natural as eating, breathing etc, so why worry?
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May 27, 2015, 05:08:28 PM
Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.


you believe in devil? o.O thats weird.

anyways maybe you mean if there exist a devil or something like that.

yeah well that was interresting, we do not know what will happen after our death, but its quite scary to think we were wrong and will burn in hell. as far as i know fire hasnt been my strong point all my life Cheesy
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May 27, 2015, 05:06:34 PM
Or what's happens if the devil has been tricking all the religious folk all along.
Atheists will have the last laugh then.
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May 27, 2015, 05:03:56 PM
and what if it was not a fairytale? what if when you die you see that you will have a judgement day? this is a very interresting conversation to have. what will you do when whoever is out there starts questionning your doings? your beliefs? its just a question but still, what if?
So you're asking me what if atheists have been wrong all along and judgement day comes?
There will be two options: a) the boring religious people will be stuck in heaven with a bunch of other boring religious people with their God who likes to have everyone under control.
b) The non believers, sinners and such will enjoy our time in hell with all the sinners of the world. This includes most of my awesome friends, hookers and people such as Dan Blizerian.

I'd rather chose option b.   Cheesy

The Atheists will be judged on their good or bad behaviour in life, the same as everyone else. Those that believed in the man-made religions in their life, won't get any special treatment.
He's talking about the judgement day as described in the books. You're forgetting that atheists (including me) probably broke majority of the rules of every religion out there.  Smiley

Now if the religions actually were wrong all along, but there was a god and judgement day came, then what you said is true.
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May 27, 2015, 05:01:54 PM
Well nobody knows that, Atheist or otherwise.



i agree but if someone is following a religion, it is stated in their religious book about the life after death or something like that. but how about atheists? since they dont have a book and rely on science, bearing in mind science is more or less about theories which changes over time. i would like to know their views about it
I'm an atheist. If a write a book stating that we become unicorns after we die and even if others believe that, it won't make it true.
I for one don't think about that. The question can't be answered while you're alive. If you focus on the life and death paradox too much you might start going crazy.

You can always pick the easy route and believe afterlife fairy tales. Then there is no reason not to believe in the Stargate and the ancients either.  Cheesy


and what if it was not a fairytale? what if when you die you see that you will have a judgement day? this is a very interresting conversation to have. what will you do when whoever is out there starts questionning your doings? your beliefs? its just a question but still, what if?

The Atheists will be judged on their good or bad behaviour in life, the same as everyone else. Those that believed in the man-made religions in their life, won't get any special treatment.

Of course in reality I have no idea, just guessing like everyone else.

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May 27, 2015, 04:50:42 PM
Well nobody knows that, Atheist or otherwise.



i agree but if someone is following a religion, it is stated in their religious book about the life after death or something like that. but how about atheists? since they dont have a book and rely on science, bearing in mind science is more or less about theories which changes over time. i would like to know their views about it
I'm an atheist. If a write a book stating that we become unicorns after we die and even if others believe that, it won't make it true.
I for one don't think about that. The question can't be answered while you're alive. If you focus on the life and death paradox too much you might start going crazy.

You can always pick the easy route and believe afterlife fairy tales. Then there is no reason not to believe in the Stargate and the ancients either.  Cheesy


and what if it was not a fairytale? what if when you die you see that you will have a judgement day? this is a very interresting conversation to have. what will you do when whoever is out there starts questionning your doings? your beliefs? its just a question but still, what if?
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May 27, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
Well nobody knows that, Atheist or otherwise.



i agree but if someone is following a religion, it is stated in their religious book about the life after death or something like that. but how about atheists? since they dont have a book and rely on science, bearing in mind science is more or less about theories which changes over time. i would like to know their views about it
I'm an atheist. If a write a book stating that we become unicorns after we die and even if others believe that, it won't make it true.
I for one don't think about that. The question can't be answered while you're alive. If you focus on the life and death paradox too much you might start going crazy.

You can always pick the easy route and believe afterlife fairy tales. Then there is no reason not to believe in the Stargate and the ancients either.  Cheesy
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May 27, 2015, 04:36:57 PM
but i would like to ask to an atheist what happens after death?

Well nobody knows that, Atheist or otherwise.



i agree but if someone is following a religion, it is stated in their religious book about the life after death or something like that. but how about atheists? since they dont have a book and rely on science, bearing in mind science is more or less about theories which changes over time. i would like to know their views about it
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May 27, 2015, 04:35:20 PM
but i would like to ask to an atheist what happens after death?

Well nobody knows that, Atheist or otherwise.
Anyone claiming to know what happens is lying.



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Of course, how does anybody know for a fact that when you are dead, you don't know you're dead?
Irreversible brain death occurs within 8 minutes of the heart's final pump,  after that the brain begins to rot away. Little to no brain matter remains just 7 days post-mortem, and there is no electrical storm happening in whatever rotting matter remains.

Unless you're one of the level 99 theistards who actually believe experience occurs somewhere other than the brain, you must concede this argument. I genuinely hope the damage religion has done to your critical thinking capacity isn't that severe.

Your beliefs do nothing to invalidate modern medical science, and are farcical in the face of it. As science progresses and relegion struggles to survive the suffocating effects of the information age, I wonder how many of you will go mad and end yourselves rather than face a transhumanist existence? Hopefully you don't take too many (more) of us non-theists down with you in your implosion.
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