Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 420. (Read 901522 times)

Quote from: ObscureBean on May 25, 2015, 12:05:33 PM

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.

EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

Badecker we just dont need something to believe in to function.
We dont need to pray to something to feel better about our selfs.
We live as we like.

So if you have a problem with that, then go back to church and ask god if he can kill the free with a flod.

You have been making your point so religiously, that I can't see how you could think that your atheism, at least, is NOT a religion.

If living as you like is your religion, it still is a religion, 'cause you do it religiously. And if it includes atheism, then atheism is a religion for you.

Since you hate religion, you hate atheism and yourself, right?

Here's a question for you: Since you keep claiming atheism is a religion, can you instead describe what it means to be non-religious? In other words, what criteria does a person need to meet in order to be considered non-religious, according to you?

That's easy. Non-religious is what dead people are (of course, they may be other things as well). It is also a term that applies to animals and inanimate things, since the religion of non-religion is a religion, itself.

Cheesy

Do you believe every individual, living person is religious then?

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Quote from: the joint on May 25, 2015, 02:57:57 PM

Quote from: BADecker on May 25, 2015, 02:45:44 PM

Quote from: ObscureBean on May 25, 2015, 12:05:33 PM

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.

EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

Badecker we just dont need something to believe in to function.
We dont need to pray to something to feel better about our selfs.
We live as we like.

So if you have a problem with that, then go back to church and ask god if he can kill the free with a flod.

You have been making your point so religiously, that I can't see how you could think that your atheism, at least, is NOT a religion.

If living as you like is your religion, it still is a religion, 'cause you do it religiously. And if it includes atheism, then atheism is a religion for you.

Since you hate religion, you hate atheism and yourself, right?

Here's a question for you: Since you keep claiming atheism is a religion, can you instead describe what it means to be non-religious? In other words, what criteria does a person need to meet in order to be considered non-religious, according to you?

That's easy. Non-religious is what dead people are (of course, they may be other things as well). It is also a term that applies to animals and inanimate things, since the religion of non-religion is a religion, itself.

Cheesy

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Quote from: BADecker on May 25, 2015, 02:45:44 PM

Quote from: ObscureBean on May 25, 2015, 12:05:33 PM

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.

EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

Badecker we just dont need something to believe in to function.
We dont need to pray to something to feel better about our selfs.
We live as we like.

So if you have a problem with that, then go back to church and ask god if he can kill the free with a flod.

You have been making your point so religiously, that I can't see how you could think that your atheism, at least, is NOT a religion.

If living as you like is your religion, it still is a religion, 'cause you do it religiously. And if it includes atheism, then atheism is a religion for you.

Since you hate religion, you hate atheism and yourself, right?

Here's a question for you: Since you keep claiming atheism is a religion, can you instead describe what it means to be non-religious? In other words, what criteria does a person need to meet in order to be considered non-religious, according to you?

BADecker

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Quote from: ObscureBean on May 25, 2015, 12:05:33 PM

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.

EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

Badecker we just dont need something to believe in to function.
We dont need to pray to something to feel better about our selfs.
We live as we like.

So if you have a problem with that, then go back to church and ask god if he can kill the free with a flod.

You have been making your point so religiously, that I can't see how you could think that your atheism, at least, is NOT a religion.

If living as you like is your religion, it still is a religion, 'cause you do it religiously. And if it includes atheism, then atheism is a religion for you.

Since you hate religion, you hate atheism and yourself, right?

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Quote from: ObscureBean on May 25, 2015, 12:05:33 PM

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.

EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

While your attempt to draw an analogy between atheism and religion has been drawn out painfully long and been discredited many times in this thread but just about everyone who bothers to respond to your posts, your propensity to cling to unworthy ideas is consistent to the point of being nearly absolute.

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Quote from: ObscureBean on May 25, 2015, 12:05:33 PM

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.

EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

Badecker we just dont need something to believe in to function.
We dont need to pray to something to feel better about our selfs.
We live as we like.

So if you have a problem with that, then go back to church and ask god if he can kill the free with a flod.

BADecker

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Quote from: ObscureBean on May 25, 2015, 12:05:33 PM

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

While this is true for folks that barely think about religion or atheism, but rather just live it without thinking. Yet for those who practice their religion, even atheism if the practice it is a religion. Atheists want some information regarding the beginnings of life and human kind. So they focus on scientific "revelations," thereby making the "revelations" their "bible" and the scientists that proclaim the revelations their "priests."

At any rate, those people who don't think much about atheism or other religions, have the personal religion that suggests ignorance about religion. Why? Because they do whatever they do day by day, RELIGIOUSLY.

EDIT: Take a look at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11447618 to see why you might not want to be an atheist any longer.

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Quote from: ObscureBean on May 25, 2015, 12:05:33 PM

The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

There difference between a belief and a religion is that a religion has ritualistic behavior that is oriented around the belief. As in, believe in XYZ, pray in this specific way, etc, otherwise you won't be granted eternal rewards.

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The thing that most people don't seem to realize is that a religion is really just a belief system, nothing more. Every human rely on some belief system, whether there be a God involved or not. So you could say everyone is religious, the only thing that separates people is numbers. The guy who has his own personal belief system is not considered religious while millions that adhere to the same system are.

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Quote from: erikalui on May 18, 2015, 09:55:53 AM

Quote from: desired_username on May 18, 2015, 07:26:40 AM

Because believing in something without evidence is idiotic.

All religions are nothing more than scams preying on stupid people.

Same applies to atheists who believe that all the wrong done in this world is because of religion and their belief in God. For them, evil people are evil because of religion. They say that because they get abused by people who are theists (although it's wrong that those people abuse them and they are bad people) but that doesn't mean that those bad people do the same because of their belief. They are just plain bad/evil.

It's not that theists 'do evil' that leads people to believe religion is the problem, but that the theists who 'do evil' seek to use religion as a justification or excuse that leads to that conclusion. I agree that theists who do bad things don't do so because of their religion, unless they tell you this to be the case by trying to cite the bible or religious tradition as a justification for their actions. In those cases, I'd say the conclusion is quite warranted.

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on May 21, 2015, 01:56:54 PM

Hey BADecker, thrown any rocks at gays lately?
Tell you what, why not pop over to my house. I've got two gay tortoises trying to hump each other at the moment. Why not put a smile on Gods face and smash their sinning heads in with an iron bar?
Win win situation. You release some of that anger, kill two creatures for sinning and please God all at the same time.
Gods work.

You poor little guy. I feel so sad for you. Such a burden of pain you bear, deep within your soul. I can only feel compassion for you in your great pain. Perhaps someday someone will find a way to ease your hurt.

Cry

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Hey BADecker, thrown any rocks at gays lately?
Tell you what, why not pop over to my house. I've got two gay tortoises trying to hump each other at the moment. Why not put a smile on Gods face and smash their sinning heads in with an iron bar?
Win win situation. You release some of that anger, kill two creatures for sinning and please God all at the same time.
Gods work.

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I'm atheist and believe in the last judgement. I can accept any peaceably religion, the cristian religion maybe too.

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Quote from: BADecker on May 21, 2015, 12:12:25 PM

Quote from: the joint on May 21, 2015, 06:11:46 AM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on May 21, 2015, 05:49:42 AM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on May 21, 2015, 05:26:04 AM

I'm so glad you sourced us a completely unbiased website such as creation.com.

LOL Cheesy

The better question is why aren't you ignoring him?

I'm trying, really I am. It's like a train crash, you don't want to look, but you just can't seem to turn your head away.
Remember "The Dank Show"?
Now it's "The BADecker Show".

Don't feel too bad about it. I think the reason people keep engaging BADecker is because they actually care to try to prevent someone continuing on such a profoundly deluded path. This differs drastically from BADecker who doesn't seem to care one way or another whether someone believes in the truth or if he/she might go to hell. He's just gleeful from thinking he's right, and that's about it.

I really wonder though, how many Christians and theists would need to tell BADecker he's delusional in order for him to start wondering whether he's wrong?

Now, now, jointy, baby. The fact that you, a knowledgeable proponent of good logic, joins in the character assassinations, simply proves that you are not as knowledgeable as you suggest.

If the dictionary definitions were not there, and if there was no corroboration from others (websites), perhaps I would be delusional. But now, since you are joining in attack against the truth of atheism being religion, in the face of all the evidence that it IS religion, you are discrediting yourself.

Wake up and see that the largest reason that atheists hate religion is that they don't want religion to exist, but that they realize in their hearts that the more they fight for this, the more they turn atheism into a religion. It's in the definitions of the words, and the fact that nature highly suggests that there is a God.

Lol It's not even character assassination, dummy ("dummy" is character assassination; the rest is not...see the difference?)

I can't comprehend what you say anymore. Sorry. Meaningless garbage, and convincing you of it is an act of futility.

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Quote from: BADecker on May 21, 2015, 12:12:25 PM

joins in the character assassinations

What character assassinations?
I can only see some home truths being said.

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Quote from: the joint on May 21, 2015, 06:11:46 AM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on May 21, 2015, 05:49:42 AM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on May 21, 2015, 05:26:04 AM

I'm so glad you sourced us a completely unbiased website such as creation.com.

LOL Cheesy

The better question is why aren't you ignoring him?

I'm trying, really I am. It's like a train crash, you don't want to look, but you just can't seem to turn your head away.
Remember "The Dank Show"?
Now it's "The BADecker Show".

Don't feel too bad about it. I think the reason people keep engaging BADecker is because they actually care to try to prevent someone continuing on such a profoundly deluded path. This differs drastically from BADecker who doesn't seem to care one way or another whether someone believes in the truth or if he/she might go to hell. He's just gleeful from thinking he's right, and that's about it.

I really wonder though, how many Christians and theists would need to tell BADecker he's delusional in order for him to start wondering whether he's wrong?

Now, now, jointy, baby. The fact that you, a knowledgeable proponent of good logic, joins in the character assassinations, simply proves that you are not as knowledgeable as you suggest.

If the dictionary definitions were not there, and if there was no corroboration from others (websites), perhaps I would be delusional. But now, since you are joining in attack against the truth of atheism being religion, in the face of all the evidence that it IS religion, you are discrediting yourself.

Wake up and see that the largest reason that atheists hate religion is that they don't want religion to exist, but that they realize in their hearts that the more they fight for this, the more they turn atheism into a religion. It's in the definitions of the words, and the fact that nature highly suggests that there is a God.

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on May 21, 2015, 05:49:42 AM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on May 21, 2015, 05:26:04 AM

I'm so glad you sourced us a completely unbiased website such as creation.com.

LOL Cheesy

The better question is why aren't you ignoring him?

I'm trying, really I am. It's like a train crash, you don't want to look, but you just can't seem to turn your head away.
Remember "The Dank Show"?
Now it's "The BADecker Show".

Don't feel too bad about it. I think the reason people keep engaging BADecker is because they actually care to try to prevent someone continuing on such a profoundly deluded path. This differs drastically from BADecker who doesn't seem to care one way or another whether someone believes in the truth or if he/she might go to hell. He's just gleeful from thinking he's right, and that's about it.

I really wonder though, how many Christians and theists would need to tell BADecker he's delusional in order for him to start wondering whether he's wrong?

Buffer Overflow

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