Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 50. (Read 901370 times)

I believe in every single person have love in their hearts, and the most important that we have to give our respects each other for every human in this world, don't see what is their religion, or nation spread love and respect as human will give you peace in your life.

So criminals then.

Religion is a kind of a government but on the spiritual side. And when you have religion you are given limitations just like when you are in a government where laws are sometimes against you. Just like gambling, there are the some form of gambling that is considered illegal and there are ones that nobody would want to consider bad because it is legal and yet it is still the same game. So in religion some people like to have freedom of doing whatever they want and believes nothing but what is good and pleasurable to them. They are straightforward and doesn't care about anything or any rules of life except what is pleasurable. Maybe this is the reason why they would hate religion.

^^^ This one strikes at me with an ad hominem attack, can you feel the hate?

Not all atheists hate religion just like not all people of a certain faith hate other religions or try to force their beliefs on others.

Pretty much every group has very in your face/polarized thinking type of people. whether it be religion, politics, sports, foodies, boomers, millennials, left, right, pepsi or coke.
People that are very vocal about something usually dislike the other side for whatever reason and want to be validated.

Most people are not like that, Most people go by the motto live and let live.

Problem is that your proof is not scientific, it's pseudo-science. Using the godel theorem wrongfully is not a good justification for your beliefs. Your second claim is just as bullshit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherence_theory_of_truth#Criticism
It's no wonder you like jordan peterson, he talks in the same bullshit manner as you and while I agree with many of his points about sjw's, black lives matter and all the modern bullshit, I don't agree with his views on god or his ''life philosophy'' People have repeatedly pointed out Peterson's reliance on unfalsifiable, unscientific and indefensible psychoanalytic models, you do the same.

Yeah... he is the example of cognitive dissonance, not you. Tell me, since you started believing in your retarded conspiracies, has your life changed? You are still here typing garbage in this forum, go expose the governments dude, be a superhero or something.

Slightly off topic but my favorite theory of gravity is that it itself isn't a real, fundamental force, but an illusory, emergent one. The idea is that gravity emerges from a more fundamental phenomenon in the Universe entropy.

This is currently a topic of some theoretical research. It could be totally wrong of course but it's fascinating.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/10/04/are-space-time-and-gravity-all-just-illusions/#437cfb6d41cf

That said my experience with discussions with notbatman in the past have been notable for his casual dismissal of all contradictory evidence as conspiracy making productive conversation unviable.

I agree that people should never think this life is irrelevant. However, I would argue you are misdiagnosing the fundamental problem.

The true challenge is that the human power to do evil is growing much faster then our wisdom to not be evil.

Islamic countries may be developing nuclear weapons now but with relentless technological development there will soon come a time when everyone even single individuals will be able to unleash that kind of devastation.

Ridding the world of religion would not solve the actual problem it would worsen it.

When any single disgruntled individual has the ability to destroy a city block or unleash a biological plague that can kill thousands what is the solution?

I believe religion has a critical role to play in answering to that question as I argued in this earlier post.

An Argument for God

^^^ This is a prime example of cognitive dissonance. Their argument they claim is scientific, logical and intelligent but atheism fails these tests on all fronts and our disillusioned friends here are left with nothing but confusion and negative emotions.

Now he strikes at me with concern trolling, this is the low road folks.

   I've said nothing that would lead to that conclusion. I was almost as baffled by all the bullshit as everybody else in school and subjects like science and math were areas I excelled at.

I do however recall back in very early grade school being scolded for pointing out the images in the NASA Moon landing picture book were the same, as the movie images in the The Empire Strikes Back and Dune movie picture books; I understood that they were multiple images merged together for a fictional story.

I don’t think most Athiets hate religious people or their religions per say. They generally hate the consequences that stem from those religious beliefs. There has been a lot of violence committed in the name of various religions. I don’t hate any religious person that practices their religion peacefully and tolerates others doing the same. I hate people that commit acts of violence in the name of their religion as well as anyone else that support these types of people.

   This theory, this mathematical framework, this model descriptive of a force that's not real is unproven. You have to believe, to imagine to have an unyielding faith that it's describing the face of reality and is true. Atheism goes hand & hand with the the globe and its bastard children geology and evolution, and the assumption that the unproven theory of gravity is true is a must for these stillborn abominations.

   You can't define your argument.   Circular Logic.   False analogy; logical fallacy.   Cognitive dissonance; "the state of having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes, especially as relating to behavioral decisions and attitude change." -- Google

Why do you think gravity is a theory? Gravity, whatever it is, is in existence all around us and through us. For example. Gravity not only holds me to the ground, but it also holds my car to the ground. You don't simply float in the air, do you? It is gravity that holds you down.

What does theory have to do with it? Gravity theory is merely the ideas of what gravity is made out of, and why it works the way it does. Gravity theory is not gravity. Gravity theory is an explanation of the fact of gravity. Gravity theory may be wrong, but gravity is in evidence all over the place.

Go into a house and look at a wall. Tap your fist on the wall. Kick the wall mildly. The wall is there. What holds the wall there? The studs behind/inside the wall. But you don't really know that the studs are there except if you saw the wall being build. The wall is in evidence, the studs are not.

Same with gravity. Gravity is like the wall. Gravity exists all over the place. People use it all over the world. In fact, there is no place on earth that is evidenced to be without gravity.

Gravity theory is like the studs inside the wall. We know that something is there, inside the wall. But we don't know if it is really studs; some walls are held up by plywood rather than studs. If it is studs, we don't know if they are made of pine or Douglas fir or sheet metal beams. We don't know how many of them there are. We use tools like stud finders to learn something about the studs in the wall.

The wall exists; gravity exists. The reasons for gravity existing the way it does are not known clearly, just like much of the info about the studs in a wall is not known clearly.

Blabbing about gravity theory being wrong, doesn't negate the fact that gravity exists, even if the theory is wrong.

What does this have to do with atheists hating religion?

For all of you that think they're so smart, so logical, so scientific, well I tell you gravity is an unproven theory! How is this scientific, how is this logical, how is this intelligent to say something is an incontestable, irrefutable fact so obviously true that to question it is blasphemy when it's not?

Gravity is the atheists God, without it their whole universe, the very ground they stand on falls apart; it also requires faith.

Nobody likes being forced into something that he doesn't want. The problem with atheists and religion is that they think that atheism isn't a religion. But atheism is a religions, especially if an atheist attempts to defend atheism. Study atheism a little. Look at the definition in dictionaries. Google "atheism religion" and read the various things said there. Atheism is simply another, freer, less dogmatic religion.

If atheists hat other religions, isn't that what many theists do? Don't theists often at least detest religions other than their own? Atheists are simply being religious, and often zealously religious, about their own religion.

There is a very bad misconception that atheist hate religion. They do not hate religion there aren’t against at least most aren’t. I think atheists don’t like when people try to push a religion on to them

if atheistic souls do not experience emptiness and can continue to synergize with life, then they do not consider religion important, it should be underlined that not all atheists despise religion, they just do not care and regard religion as a fairy tales story.

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I agree.  Humanity has much bigger problems to deal with.  We don't need to argue if Earth is flat, or is 6000 years old, if a 6th century moral code or a Bronze Age moral code is the correct code to follow, or that some undefined entity exists or does not exist in this or other universes and controls everything we do and is interested which holes he stick our you know what.  There is no proof it does exist so let's move on.

There is not much to argue about these religious statements, but to say it is nonsense, let's move on.  Earth is a globe, and is much older than 6000 years.  Universe was not created as some intricate design but was created as a massive explosion.  We came about as a result of evolution, not were made out of dirt by some sky daddy.

These things should be obvious to anyone who can follow scientific discoveries, can read and follow basic logic.

Humanity should focus on how to survive the next millennium not dwell on what people 5000 years ago thought is the right punishment for adultery, homosexuality, what to eat and what not to eat. 

I wish humanity just snaps out of it.  Majority of people on Earth seem to be in some sort of ancient cult (aka religion).  It is truly unbelievable.