Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 46. (Read 901357 times)

Atheists hate inhumane and restrictive governance and I think some religions enforce just that.

I am an atheist. I don't hate god, because obviously, you can't hate something that doesn't exist. I hate the idea of god. I hate the idea of heaven or hell. I hate the bible, so full of contradictions. Most of all, I hate the people that want to push their religion on me.

You are retarded. How do you choose to believe in god or not if you don't know anything about god, answer that, you idiot.

You don't seem to understand that among your assumptions are:
1. "Your choice to believe in god or not relies on external knowledge;"
2. "you can't simply believe in god without any knowledge of anything;"
3. "your faith isn't really yours."

Once you realize that you are stating these things without knowledge that they are true, you will realize that everything else you say falls apart.

You don't seem to really understand what you are saying. Let me break it down for you.

''My faith changes according to my choice'' Your choice to believe in god or not relies on external knowledge, you can't simply believe in god without any knowledge of anything, since everything else is not determined by you, your faith isn't really yours. God put you where you are, god decided that you will be born in that country at that time and everything else that surrounds your life was decided by god, your only free will is to use those occurrences and believe or not in God, problem is that everyone is different, we are all born in different places, have different lives and it's not fair to ask a muslim born kid to believe in your god, obviously for a kid born into a christian country and a christian family it's much easier. God is either not fair, stupid or doesn't exist, since he cannot be unfair or stupid the only option is that he doesn't exist.

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   "Instead, test everything. Hold on to what is good." -- 1 Thessalonians 5:21


It doesn't get any more objective than that. I tested your claim the Bible doesn't contain the word "objective" and it didn't hold. I've shown an instance of the word in at least one translation, so your argument now is that the Bible doesn't use "objective" as an adjective. Well there you have it (1 Thessalonians 5:21) an instance of a commandment saying you should be objective and critical. No, it's not an instance of the word being used as an adjective but it does render your argument that the Bible isn't objective false.

I have friends who are atheist. I'm more of an I don't know agnostic guy. They just don't believe is true, and that it causes a lot of problems.

Just FYI,

   "A person with understanding has wisdom as his objective, but a fool looks only to earthly goals." -- Proverbs 17:24.

You were the one who used the picture. They say a picture paints a thousand words, but your picture doesn't even point at which words. Perhaps you should take up painting or photography. It fits you well.

Well, finally you are starting to understand just a hint. How do we know? You don't have any real answer at all. There is a chance that you can be saved after all. I will pray to God on your behalf, even though I personally feel it is a waste of time.



P.S. See the highlighted area above.

If you are not interested in what God is interested in, who are you asking your questions on behalf of? Aren't you interested in getting answers for your own self? God is interested in you, as well. So, you are not telling the truth when you say that you are not interested in what God is interested in. You are interested in your own welfare, and so is God.

So, now you want to dictate to me about what I should say and when I should stop talking? You are trying to do that with God, too. I am honored that you would attempt to place me on the same level as God. But I will have to decline, since I don't match Him even a little, just like you don't.

No, the BMW test never fails. It is successful one way or the other. I mean, even failure is successful failure. If it wasn't successful failure, it would be successful success. All it is, is that your expectations are not set correctly.

Too bad you won't accept how all science experiments and tests are cause and effect experiments and tests. Since C&E was set up by God, all experiments and tests prove the existence of God. If you would only understand that, you might ultimately be saved.

If you were a simple atheist, one who doesn't ever ask the question regarding whether or not God exists, then you might almost not have religion. But since you adamantly express that you are an atheist, and that God doesn't exist, you prove that such is your religion. The stronger the atheist, the stronger his atheism religion within him.

God isn't interested in being pressured into doing anything... not even your tests.

Again, there is no need for testing something that is excessively in use all over the world. Every time that a scientist makes an experiment, he is using the same stuff that proves God. In other words, take your pick of scientific experiments for your test example.

Atheists dont hate religion.
Asshole atheists hate religion.
Not all atheists are assholes.

What about my point that there's two types of atheists, one believes in God and is fighting his judgment, is hate a strong enough word? The second type is just a useful idiot, a bigot.

Mostly the only example we have of BB is a lab experiment where some scientists made a mini BB. Other than that, BB is just an educated guess. It might be possible for it to exist, but there isn't enough info included it its description to suggest that it would have anything to do with the universe as the universe exists.

The fact that prayers of many people are answered shows that God interacts with the world. Bible prophesy being fulfilled is another example.

The idea of atheism is a cute religion. But ultimately all false religions like atheism will make trouble for the people that hold to them.

Hate is such a strong world. From hearing their point of view they just think religion is BS, made up, fantasy. So they don't really consider it.

The true atheist knows of a greater power, he is fully aware of a God who is just and right and knows of his transgressions, who's seen his transgressions, who's heard his transgressions cry out. He knows that he is being judged, the hatred of an atheist is that of a criminal who hates the judge for ruling on his foul deeds.

The true atheist is fighting his judgement and satisfying his lust for flesh and blood with every hate filled mind he turns away from God. The true atheist has filled the minds of those he's turned with his hate, and scorn and ridicule for any religion that confesses a moral standard.

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." -- KJV Ephesians 6:12

The probability that God exists would be extremely high if God hadn't been proven already. After all:
1. Evolution, the only alternative, has been proven to be impossible;
2. Cause and effect along with complexity shows that it was a Super Being to be able to C&E something like present-day intelligence into being;
3. When you throw in entropy to show that there was a beginning, this all says "God" whatever God might happen to be.

The God of the Bible exists in the fact that the Bible wouldn't exist in the form in which it exists without Divine guidance. The complexity of the universe is too great to be able to easily understand God from things like "Biology, Chemistry, Physics or Astrophysics." That's why we need God's direct revelation from the Bible.

No matter what the atheist wants to call it, an atheist has faith that God doesn't exist. Why? Because he doesn't know for a fact that God doesn't exist. Kinda shaky ground to be on, denying God without knowing it for a fact. I mean, why would anybody care if they didn't believe that a coelacanth had been found? But to not believe that God might exist? Dangerous.

What are you really asking? I mean, how does an electron fly around a proton in an atom of hydrogen?

My faith changes according to my choice, which God holds ever open for me to change. Because of my choice to be against God in some ways, He has strengthened that portion of my faith, according to my own choice, so that it is difficult for me to change it to be in favor of God rather than against Him. But because of my choosing to be in favor of God in some dramatic ways, He has strengthened me in faith so that I will never lose that dramatic, in-favor-of-God portion of my faith.

If God were not holding my choice open for me, and if He were not strengthening me to remain if favor of Him to my benefit, I would fall into choosing to be against Him. He does this for me because He desires my choice to be in favor of Him, and I am too weak in faith to resist Him.

Your faith is quite strong that you are able to choose to be against God in the face of all the inviting He does for you, and the evidence He shows you that He exists. The more you fight Him by strengthening your own faith against Him, the more He will give you what you ask by strengthening your faith against Him, just as you are doing. Have you passed the point where you can turn to be in favor of Him? Perhaps. But if you have, you will die soon, at God's directing, so that you won't build up more reasons to be punished in Hell than you have already built into your life.

And thank you for allowing me to improve your English through my posting that answers your questions.