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Quote from: BADecker on May 03, 2015, 11:35:58 AM

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As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

wait wait wait,

As an example, some joker might say to himself, im gonna put arabic words on me and say the words muslims say, then he comes on the news and take responsibility for bombing i dont know where.. does that make him a muslim? no makes him a terrorist, not a muslim.

if you say that he is a muslim even tho, they you have a very bad double standarded mind which sees everyone as bad rather than saying bad is bad good is good

However, that's almost the thing that the Sunni's do.

now you dont have problems with islam, you have problems with sunnis because shiahs are not part of muslims.

now if you say sunnis are, well there are about 72 different sects in muslims community not in islam. islam is one community, muslims created other sects and there are 72 of them. do you have problems with every sects or just sunnis?
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Non-Christians are the ones who have problems. Their biggest problem is that they don't know how big their problems really are.

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Christians peaceful? lets see

Are Christians more violent than Muslims? What does the record say?

Murder rate: White America, like most Christian countries in the Americas, Africa and Eastern Europe, is markedly more violent than most of the Middle East (murders per 100,000 population):

0.6 Bahrain
0.7 Oman
0.8 United Arab Emirates
0.9 Qatar
1.0 Saudi Arabia
1.2 Egypt
1.7 Cyprus
1.8 Jordan
2.0 Iraq
2.1 Israel
2.2 Kuwait
2.2 Lebanon
2.3 Syria
3.0 Iran
3.3 Turkey
3.4 WHITE AMERICA
4.1 Palestine
4.2 Yemen
Terrorist attacks: According to the FBI, only 6% of the terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005 were carried out by Muslim extremists. Even Jewish extremists carried out more (7%).

War: Wars with at least a million dead:

Christian wars:

years: name: conservative body count in millions
535-554: Gothic Wars: 5.0m
790-1300: Reconquista: 7.0m
1096-1272: Crusades: 2.0m
1337-1453: Hundred Years’ War: 3.0m
1562-1598: French Wars of Religion: 3.0m
1568-1648: Dutch Revolt: 1.0m
1618-1648: Thirty Years’ War: 3.0m
1655-1660: Second Northern War: 3.0m
1763-1864: Russian-Circassian War: 2.0m
1792-1802: French Revolutionary Wars: 2.0m
1803-1815: Napoleonic Wars: 3.5m
1830-1903: War in Venezuela: 1.0m
1882-1898: Conquests of Menelik II of Ethiopia: 5.0m
1910-1920: Mexican Revolution: 1.0m
1914-1918: First World War: 20.0m
1917-1922: Russian Civil War: 5.0m
1939-1945: Second World War: 41.5m (European deaths only)
1946-1954: First Indochina War: 1.0m
1950-1953: Korean War: 1.2m
1955-1975: Vietnam War: 1.1m
1998-2003: Second Congo War: 2.5m
Muslim wars:

1370-1405: Conquests of Tamerlane: 7.0m
1681-1707: Conquests of Aurangzeb: 5.0m
1967-1970: Nigerian Civil War: 1.0m
1980-1988: Iran-Iraq War: 1.0m
1983-2005: Second Sudanese Civil War: 1.0m
1989-2001: Afghan Civil War: 1.4m
Seven times more people have died in Christian wars: 113.8 million compared to the 16.4 million who died in Muslim wars.

There are more Christians, but only about 50% more, nothing like seven times more.

Western history is Eurocentric, so we know more about wars in Christian lands than in Muslim ones. But not for wars since 1900, and there the imbalance is even worse: 73.3 million compared to 4.4 millon – 17 times more dead in Christian wars.

Some blame technology, yet the Muslim world has all the weapons the West had to kill over 100 million people. And yet it did not.

Democide: counts those who died not through war or street crime but through the wilful in/action of government, like genocide or Mao’s Great Leap Forward.

Christian democides of a million or more (does not count communist democides):

940-1917: Russia (tsarist): 2.1m
1095-1272: Crusades: 1.0m
1451-1870: European slave trade: 17.3m
1492-1900: Latin America: 13.8m Amerindians
1600-1900: Caribbean: 10.0m slaves worked to death
1618-1648; Thirty Years War: 5.8m
1651-1987: British Empire: 1.1m (not counting slavery)
1800-1900: Brazil: 1.5m Amazon rubber companies
1900-1920: Mexico: 1.4m
1933-1945: Germany (Nazis): 20.9m
1945-1948: Poland: 1.6m
Muslim democides of a million or more:

400-1900: Iran: 2.0m
1110-1918: Ottoman Empire: 3.9m
1958-1987: Pakistan: 1.5m
1983-2005: Sudan: 1.9m Nuer, Dinka, Christians, Nuba, etc
Christians have killed eight times more people in democides than Muslims: 76.5 million compared to 9.3 million. Almost the same rate as for war.

The mistake here lies not in the numbers but in the words “Christian” and “Muslim”. Sometimes religion is a cause – or at least an excuse – like in the bombings by Christian extremist Eric Rudolph or the genocide in Sudan. But most often it is not. Calling, say, the 9/11 terrorists “Muslim” is like calling Hitler “Christian”: true yet misleading. It is Islamophobia, not a serious attempt to understand the world as it is.

Sources: Wikipedia, R.J. Rummel, FBI, Loonwatch, U.S. Department of Justice, List of countries by intentional homicide rate.

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Quote from: Netpyder on May 03, 2015, 11:31:54 AM

Quote from: Netpyder on May 03, 2015, 11:31:54 AM

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Islam suggests ways for a person to gain a good afterlife - Heaven. Christianity does this also. Both religions have a different method for getting to Heaven. The methods are quite opposite, Islam stating that Heaven is gained through doing things, Christianity expressing that Heaven is gained through the things that Jesus already did... if one believes.

Because of how opposite these two religions are in this key point, if one of them is right, the other most certainly is false.

Since, as has been stated, the religion doesn't do or feel anything until it gets into the people, when the false religion gets into people, if it teaches falsehood about the hereafter, it essentially becomes hatred in the people who believe it. Not only does it become hatred, but it is hatred that is not necessarily felt as such by its adherers. Why not? Because it is destroying its own people simply by wrong belief, not by active emotion against others.

There is no salvation for and to Heaven except through the work Jesus did on the cross, and by His resurrection from the dead. Therefore, Islam hates those who believe it because it is working inside those who believe it, the method to send them to Hell forever. How does it do this? It keeps them from believing in the salvation of Jesus, the only way to Heaven.

Everyone dies. A religion of good works for this life is great. But it is not as nearly important as a religion that brings one to everlasting life in Heaven. Islam hates because it is bringing all of its true believers to Hell.

That is such total garbage. You have managed to present only tiny minority perspective of Christianity as the total truth, while disparaging Islam.

Okay, okay. Too many words for you. Let me get right to the heart of what religion is for. Religion is there for basically three things:
1. To show people how to live a good and righteous life on earth;
2. To show people the way to be saved for a good life in the hereafter;
3. To show crooks how to make money off believers.

That's essentially it, except if you want to suggest that some people might use religion as a scapegoat... "The devil made me do it," or "Islam made me join ISIS."

True Islam hates those who join it because it is sending all true Islamites to a harmful hereafter... Hell.

True Christianity loves those who join it, because it is sending them to a joyful and glorious hereafter... Heaven.

A difference between Islam and Christianity regarding the hereafter is, you don't have to be Islamic to go to Hell. You just have to NOT be true Christian.

There you go. This is basically it, except to say, true Christianity is believing in the salvation that Jesus worked, for salvation into Heaven and escape from Hell.

Not too many words for me. Just wrong stuff. You are preaching a minority sectarian view of Christianity, and presenting it as Da TRUTH. That's such total bullshit. I'm sure your intentions are good, but to not be dishonest one must present the broader view. "One trend of thought in Christianity is..." would be an approach.

As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

A person can go and do some little thing that might have some little bit to do with anything, and go out and say, now I am one of them. Is he?

The bottom line point of Christianity is believing in Jesus for salvation. The second is attempting to live as righteous of a life here as possible. Any joker can call himself a Christian for any reason or no reason. That doesn't mean he is one. It is similar for the joker who says, Today I am an Islamite. Doesn't make it true just because he says it, or because the media says he is.

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As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

wait wait wait,

As an example, some joker might say to himself, im gonna put arabic words on me and say the words muslims say, then he comes on the news and take responsibility for bombing i dont know where.. does that make him a muslim? no makes him a terrorist, not a muslim.

if you say that he is a muslim even tho, they you have a very bad double standarded mind which sees everyone as bad rather than saying bad is bad good is good

However, that's almost the thing that the Sunni's do.

now you dont have problems with islam, you have problems with sunnis because shiahs are not part of muslims.

now if you say sunnis are, well there are about 72 different sects in muslims community not in islam. islam is one community, muslims created other sects and there are 72 of them. do you have problems with every sects or just sunnis?

Non-Christians are the ones who have problems. Their biggest problem is that they don't know how big their problems really are.

so now every people have problems because they are not Christians. well you and extremist muslims are in the same boat. you see problem everywhere except in what your mind tells you to believe. if osama ben laden was alive he would shake your hand. he agrees with you. everybody is bad except what you and they believe in.

well Islam maybe wrong then, because Islam teaches to have compassion to everyone, not to force belief on everyone. everybody has a choice and da da da da..

do not take it wrong, dont be offended, but you are the worst example of Christian/ Christianity/ Christianites i have ever met in my whole life.

I am so shocked that a Muslim would say this about a Christian.

True Christianity is believing in Jesus for salvation to Heaven. Take the offer before it expires... before the Netpyder web burns in the place where their "worm does not die and the fire is not quenched."

wow, you impress me day after day. the human mind is very impressive. the number of stupidity that it can blurt out. youre a genius:) i repeat again, you are the worst example of Christian and Christianity

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Islam suggests ways for a person to gain a good afterlife - Heaven. Christianity does this also. Both religions have a different method for getting to Heaven. The methods are quite opposite, Islam stating that Heaven is gained through doing things, Christianity expressing that Heaven is gained through the things that Jesus already did... if one believes.

Because of how opposite these two religions are in this key point, if one of them is right, the other most certainly is false.

Since, as has been stated, the religion doesn't do or feel anything until it gets into the people, when the false religion gets into people, if it teaches falsehood about the hereafter, it essentially becomes hatred in the people who believe it. Not only does it become hatred, but it is hatred that is not necessarily felt as such by its adherers. Why not? Because it is destroying its own people simply by wrong belief, not by active emotion against others.

There is no salvation for and to Heaven except through the work Jesus did on the cross, and by His resurrection from the dead. Therefore, Islam hates those who believe it because it is working inside those who believe it, the method to send them to Hell forever. How does it do this? It keeps them from believing in the salvation of Jesus, the only way to Heaven.

Everyone dies. A religion of good works for this life is great. But it is not as nearly important as a religion that brings one to everlasting life in Heaven. Islam hates because it is bringing all of its true believers to Hell.

That is such total garbage. You have managed to present only tiny minority perspective of Christianity as the total truth, while disparaging Islam.

Okay, okay. Too many words for you. Let me get right to the heart of what religion is for. Religion is there for basically three things:
1. To show people how to live a good and righteous life on earth;
2. To show people the way to be saved for a good life in the hereafter;
3. To show crooks how to make money off believers.

That's essentially it, except if you want to suggest that some people might use religion as a scapegoat... "The devil made me do it," or "Islam made me join ISIS."

True Islam hates those who join it because it is sending all true Islamites to a harmful hereafter... Hell.

True Christianity loves those who join it, because it is sending them to a joyful and glorious hereafter... Heaven.

A difference between Islam and Christianity regarding the hereafter is, you don't have to be Islamic to go to Hell. You just have to NOT be true Christian.

There you go. This is basically it, except to say, true Christianity is believing in the salvation that Jesus worked, for salvation into Heaven and escape from Hell.

Not too many words for me. Just wrong stuff. You are preaching a minority sectarian view of Christianity, and presenting it as Da TRUTH. That's such total bullshit. I'm sure your intentions are good, but to not be dishonest one must present the broader view. "One trend of thought in Christianity is..." would be an approach.

As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

A person can go and do some little thing that might have some little bit to do with anything, and go out and say, now I am one of them. Is he?

The bottom line point of Christianity is believing in Jesus for salvation. The second is attempting to live as righteous of a life here as possible. Any joker can call himself a Christian for any reason or no reason. That doesn't mean he is one. It is similar for the joker who says, Today I am an Islamite. Doesn't make it true just because he says it, or because the media says he is.

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As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

wait wait wait,

As an example, some joker might say to himself, im gonna put arabic words on me and say the words muslims say, then he comes on the news and take responsibility for bombing i dont know where.. does that make him a muslim? no makes him a terrorist, not a muslim.

if you say that he is a muslim even tho, they you have a very bad double standarded mind which sees everyone as bad rather than saying bad is bad good is good

However, that's almost the thing that the Sunni's do.

now you dont have problems with islam, you have problems with sunnis because shiahs are not part of muslims.

now if you say sunnis are, well there are about 72 different sects in muslims community not in islam. islam is one community, muslims created other sects and there are 72 of them. do you have problems with every sects or just sunnis?

Non-Christians are the ones who have problems. Their biggest problem is that they don't know how big their problems really are.

so now every people have problems because they are not Christians. well you and extremist muslims are in the same boat. you see problem everywhere except in what your mind tells you to believe. if osama ben laden was alive he would shake your hand. he agrees with you. everybody is bad except what you and they believe in.

well Islam maybe wrong then, because Islam teaches to have compassion to everyone, not to force belief on everyone. everybody has a choice and da da da da..

do not take it wrong, dont be offended, but you are the worst example of Christian/ Christianity/ Christianites i have ever met in my whole life.

I am so shocked that a Muslim would say this about a Christian.

True Christianity is believing in Jesus for salvation to Heaven. Take the offer before it expires... before the Netpyder web burns in the place where their "worm does not die and the fire is not quenched."

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Islam suggests ways for a person to gain a good afterlife - Heaven. Christianity does this also. Both religions have a different method for getting to Heaven. The methods are quite opposite, Islam stating that Heaven is gained through doing things, Christianity expressing that Heaven is gained through the things that Jesus already did... if one believes.

Because of how opposite these two religions are in this key point, if one of them is right, the other most certainly is false.

Since, as has been stated, the religion doesn't do or feel anything until it gets into the people, when the false religion gets into people, if it teaches falsehood about the hereafter, it essentially becomes hatred in the people who believe it. Not only does it become hatred, but it is hatred that is not necessarily felt as such by its adherers. Why not? Because it is destroying its own people simply by wrong belief, not by active emotion against others.

There is no salvation for and to Heaven except through the work Jesus did on the cross, and by His resurrection from the dead. Therefore, Islam hates those who believe it because it is working inside those who believe it, the method to send them to Hell forever. How does it do this? It keeps them from believing in the salvation of Jesus, the only way to Heaven.

Everyone dies. A religion of good works for this life is great. But it is not as nearly important as a religion that brings one to everlasting life in Heaven. Islam hates because it is bringing all of its true believers to Hell.

That is such total garbage. You have managed to present only tiny minority perspective of Christianity as the total truth, while disparaging Islam.

Okay, okay. Too many words for you. Let me get right to the heart of what religion is for. Religion is there for basically three things:
1. To show people how to live a good and righteous life on earth;
2. To show people the way to be saved for a good life in the hereafter;
3. To show crooks how to make money off believers.

That's essentially it, except if you want to suggest that some people might use religion as a scapegoat... "The devil made me do it," or "Islam made me join ISIS."

True Islam hates those who join it because it is sending all true Islamites to a harmful hereafter... Hell.

True Christianity loves those who join it, because it is sending them to a joyful and glorious hereafter... Heaven.

A difference between Islam and Christianity regarding the hereafter is, you don't have to be Islamic to go to Hell. You just have to NOT be true Christian.

There you go. This is basically it, except to say, true Christianity is believing in the salvation that Jesus worked, for salvation into Heaven and escape from Hell.

Not too many words for me. Just wrong stuff. You are preaching a minority sectarian view of Christianity, and presenting it as Da TRUTH. That's such total bullshit. I'm sure your intentions are good, but to not be dishonest one must present the broader view. "One trend of thought in Christianity is..." would be an approach.

As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

A person can go and do some little thing that might have some little bit to do with anything, and go out and say, now I am one of them. Is he?

The bottom line point of Christianity is believing in Jesus for salvation. The second is attempting to live as righteous of a life here as possible. Any joker can call himself a Christian for any reason or no reason. That doesn't mean he is one. It is similar for the joker who says, Today I am an Islamite. Doesn't make it true just because he says it, or because the media says he is.

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As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

wait wait wait,

As an example, some joker might say to himself, im gonna put arabic words on me and say the words muslims say, then he comes on the news and take responsibility for bombing i dont know where.. does that make him a muslim? no makes him a terrorist, not a muslim.

if you say that he is a muslim even tho, they you have a very bad double standarded mind which sees everyone as bad rather than saying bad is bad good is good

However, that's almost the thing that the Sunni's do.

now you dont have problems with islam, you have problems with sunnis because shiahs are not part of muslims.

now if you say sunnis are, well there are about 72 different sects in muslims community not in islam. islam is one community, muslims created other sects and there are 72 of them. do you have problems with every sects or just sunnis?

Non-Christians are the ones who have problems. Their biggest problem is that they don't know how big their problems really are.

so now every people have problems because they are not Christians. well you and extremist muslims are in the same boat. you see problem everywhere except in what your mind tells you to believe. if osama ben laden was alive he would shake your hand. he agrees with you. everybody is bad except what you and they believe in.

well Islam maybe wrong then, because Islam teaches to have compassion to everyone, not to force belief on anyone. freedom of speech, freedom of religion, womens right.. everybody has a choice and da da da da.. people should not be given the choice of religion. only Christianity is good, the rest is bad.

do not take it wrong, dont be offended, but you are the worst example of Christian/ Christianity/ Christianites i have ever met in my whole life.

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Islam suggests ways for a person to gain a good afterlife - Heaven. Christianity does this also. Both religions have a different method for getting to Heaven. The methods are quite opposite, Islam stating that Heaven is gained through doing things, Christianity expressing that Heaven is gained through the things that Jesus already did... if one believes.

Because of how opposite these two religions are in this key point, if one of them is right, the other most certainly is false.

Since, as has been stated, the religion doesn't do or feel anything until it gets into the people, when the false religion gets into people, if it teaches falsehood about the hereafter, it essentially becomes hatred in the people who believe it. Not only does it become hatred, but it is hatred that is not necessarily felt as such by its adherers. Why not? Because it is destroying its own people simply by wrong belief, not by active emotion against others.

There is no salvation for and to Heaven except through the work Jesus did on the cross, and by His resurrection from the dead. Therefore, Islam hates those who believe it because it is working inside those who believe it, the method to send them to Hell forever. How does it do this? It keeps them from believing in the salvation of Jesus, the only way to Heaven.

Everyone dies. A religion of good works for this life is great. But it is not as nearly important as a religion that brings one to everlasting life in Heaven. Islam hates because it is bringing all of its true believers to Hell.

That is such total garbage. You have managed to present only tiny minority perspective of Christianity as the total truth, while disparaging Islam.

Okay, okay. Too many words for you. Let me get right to the heart of what religion is for. Religion is there for basically three things:
1. To show people how to live a good and righteous life on earth;
2. To show people the way to be saved for a good life in the hereafter;
3. To show crooks how to make money off believers.

That's essentially it, except if you want to suggest that some people might use religion as a scapegoat... "The devil made me do it," or "Islam made me join ISIS."

True Islam hates those who join it because it is sending all true Islamites to a harmful hereafter... Hell.

True Christianity loves those who join it, because it is sending them to a joyful and glorious hereafter... Heaven.

A difference between Islam and Christianity regarding the hereafter is, you don't have to be Islamic to go to Hell. You just have to NOT be true Christian.

There you go. This is basically it, except to say, true Christianity is believing in the salvation that Jesus worked, for salvation into Heaven and escape from Hell.

Not too many words for me. Just wrong stuff. You are preaching a minority sectarian view of Christianity, and presenting it as Da TRUTH. That's such total bullshit. I'm sure your intentions are good, but to not be dishonest one must present the broader view. "One trend of thought in Christianity is..." would be an approach.

As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

A person can go and do some little thing that might have some little bit to do with anything, and go out and say, now I am one of them. Is he?

The bottom line point of Christianity is believing in Jesus for salvation. The second is attempting to live as righteous of a life here as possible. Any joker can call himself a Christian for any reason or no reason. That doesn't mean he is one. It is similar for the joker who says, Today I am an Islamite. Doesn't make it true just because he says it, or because the media says he is.

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As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

wait wait wait,

As an example, some joker might say to himself, im gonna put arabic words on me and say the words muslims say, then he comes on the news and take responsibility for bombing i dont know where.. does that make him a muslim? no makes him a terrorist, not a muslim.

if you say that he is a muslim even tho, they you have a very bad double standarded mind which sees everyone as bad rather than saying bad is bad good is good

However, that's almost the thing that the Sunni's do.

now you dont have problems with islam, you have problems with sunnis because shiahs are not part of muslims.

now if you say sunnis are, well there are about 72 different sects in muslims community not in islam. islam is one community, muslims created other sects and there are 72 of them. do you have problems with every sects or just sunnis?

Non-Christians are the ones who have problems. Their biggest problem is that they don't know how big their problems really are.

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Islam suggests ways for a person to gain a good afterlife - Heaven. Christianity does this also. Both religions have a different method for getting to Heaven. The methods are quite opposite, Islam stating that Heaven is gained through doing things, Christianity expressing that Heaven is gained through the things that Jesus already did... if one believes.

Because of how opposite these two religions are in this key point, if one of them is right, the other most certainly is false.

Since, as has been stated, the religion doesn't do or feel anything until it gets into the people, when the false religion gets into people, if it teaches falsehood about the hereafter, it essentially becomes hatred in the people who believe it. Not only does it become hatred, but it is hatred that is not necessarily felt as such by its adherers. Why not? Because it is destroying its own people simply by wrong belief, not by active emotion against others.

There is no salvation for and to Heaven except through the work Jesus did on the cross, and by His resurrection from the dead. Therefore, Islam hates those who believe it because it is working inside those who believe it, the method to send them to Hell forever. How does it do this? It keeps them from believing in the salvation of Jesus, the only way to Heaven.

Everyone dies. A religion of good works for this life is great. But it is not as nearly important as a religion that brings one to everlasting life in Heaven. Islam hates because it is bringing all of its true believers to Hell.

That is such total garbage. You have managed to present only tiny minority perspective of Christianity as the total truth, while disparaging Islam.

Okay, okay. Too many words for you. Let me get right to the heart of what religion is for. Religion is there for basically three things:
1. To show people how to live a good and righteous life on earth;
2. To show people the way to be saved for a good life in the hereafter;
3. To show crooks how to make money off believers.

That's essentially it, except if you want to suggest that some people might use religion as a scapegoat... "The devil made me do it," or "Islam made me join ISIS."

True Islam hates those who join it because it is sending all true Islamites to a harmful hereafter... Hell.

True Christianity loves those who join it, because it is sending them to a joyful and glorious hereafter... Heaven.

A difference between Islam and Christianity regarding the hereafter is, you don't have to be Islamic to go to Hell. You just have to NOT be true Christian.

There you go. This is basically it, except to say, true Christianity is believing in the salvation that Jesus worked, for salvation into Heaven and escape from Hell.

Not too many words for me. Just wrong stuff. You are preaching a minority sectarian view of Christianity, and presenting it as Da TRUTH. That's such total bullshit. I'm sure your intentions are good, but to not be dishonest one must present the broader view. "One trend of thought in Christianity is..." would be an approach.

As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

A person can go and do some little thing that might have some little bit to do with anything, and go out and say, now I am one of them. Is he?

The bottom line point of Christianity is believing in Jesus for salvation. The second is attempting to live as righteous of a life here as possible. Any joker can call himself a Christian for any reason or no reason. That doesn't mean he is one. It is similar for the joker who says, Today I am an Islamite. Doesn't make it true just because he says it, or because the media says he is.

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As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

wait wait wait,

As an example, some joker might say to himself, im gonna put arabic words on me and say the words muslims say, then he comes on the news and take responsibility for bombing i dont know where.. does that make him a muslim? no makes him a terrorist, not a muslim.

if you say that he is a muslim even tho, they you have a very bad double standarded mind which sees everyone as bad rather than saying bad is bad good is good

However, that's almost the thing that the Sunni's do.

now you dont have problems with islam, you have problems with sunnis because shiahs are not part of muslims.

now if you say sunnis are, well there are about 72 different sects in muslims community not in islam. islam is one community, muslims created other sects and there are 72 of them. do you have problems with every sects or just sunnis?

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Islam suggests ways for a person to gain a good afterlife - Heaven. Christianity does this also. Both religions have a different method for getting to Heaven. The methods are quite opposite, Islam stating that Heaven is gained through doing things, Christianity expressing that Heaven is gained through the things that Jesus already did... if one believes.

Because of how opposite these two religions are in this key point, if one of them is right, the other most certainly is false.

Since, as has been stated, the religion doesn't do or feel anything until it gets into the people, when the false religion gets into people, if it teaches falsehood about the hereafter, it essentially becomes hatred in the people who believe it. Not only does it become hatred, but it is hatred that is not necessarily felt as such by its adherers. Why not? Because it is destroying its own people simply by wrong belief, not by active emotion against others.

There is no salvation for and to Heaven except through the work Jesus did on the cross, and by His resurrection from the dead. Therefore, Islam hates those who believe it because it is working inside those who believe it, the method to send them to Hell forever. How does it do this? It keeps them from believing in the salvation of Jesus, the only way to Heaven.

Everyone dies. A religion of good works for this life is great. But it is not as nearly important as a religion that brings one to everlasting life in Heaven. Islam hates because it is bringing all of its true believers to Hell.

That is such total garbage. You have managed to present only tiny minority perspective of Christianity as the total truth, while disparaging Islam.

Okay, okay. Too many words for you. Let me get right to the heart of what religion is for. Religion is there for basically three things:
1. To show people how to live a good and righteous life on earth;
2. To show people the way to be saved for a good life in the hereafter;
3. To show crooks how to make money off believers.

That's essentially it, except if you want to suggest that some people might use religion as a scapegoat... "The devil made me do it," or "Islam made me join ISIS."

True Islam hates those who join it because it is sending all true Islamites to a harmful hereafter... Hell.

True Christianity loves those who join it, because it is sending them to a joyful and glorious hereafter... Heaven.

A difference between Islam and Christianity regarding the hereafter is, you don't have to be Islamic to go to Hell. You just have to NOT be true Christian.

There you go. This is basically it, except to say, true Christianity is believing in the salvation that Jesus worked, for salvation into Heaven and escape from Hell.

Not too many words for me. Just wrong stuff. You are preaching a minority sectarian view of Christianity, and presenting it as Da TRUTH. That's such total bullshit. I'm sure your intentions are good, but to not be dishonest one must present the broader view. "One trend of thought in Christianity is..." would be an approach.

As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

A person can go and do some little thing that might have some little bit to do with anything, and go out and say, now I am one of them. Is he?

The bottom line point of Christianity is believing in Jesus for salvation. The second is attempting to live as righteous of a life here as possible. Any joker can call himself a Christian for any reason or no reason. That doesn't mean he is one. It is similar for the joker who says, Today I am an Islamite. Doesn't make it true just because he says it, or because the media says he is.

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As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

wait wait wait,

As an example, some joker might say to himself, im gonna put arabic words on me and say the words muslims say, then he comes on the news and take responsibility for bombing i dont know where.. does that make him a muslim? no makes him a terrorist, not a muslim.

if you say that he is a muslim even tho, they you have a very bad double standarded mind which sees everyone as bad rather than saying bad is bad good is good

However, that's almost the thing that the Sunni's do.

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Islam suggests ways for a person to gain a good afterlife - Heaven. Christianity does this also. Both religions have a different method for getting to Heaven. The methods are quite opposite, Islam stating that Heaven is gained through doing things, Christianity expressing that Heaven is gained through the things that Jesus already did... if one believes.

Because of how opposite these two religions are in this key point, if one of them is right, the other most certainly is false.

Since, as has been stated, the religion doesn't do or feel anything until it gets into the people, when the false religion gets into people, if it teaches falsehood about the hereafter, it essentially becomes hatred in the people who believe it. Not only does it become hatred, but it is hatred that is not necessarily felt as such by its adherers. Why not? Because it is destroying its own people simply by wrong belief, not by active emotion against others.

There is no salvation for and to Heaven except through the work Jesus did on the cross, and by His resurrection from the dead. Therefore, Islam hates those who believe it because it is working inside those who believe it, the method to send them to Hell forever. How does it do this? It keeps them from believing in the salvation of Jesus, the only way to Heaven.

Everyone dies. A religion of good works for this life is great. But it is not as nearly important as a religion that brings one to everlasting life in Heaven. Islam hates because it is bringing all of its true believers to Hell.

That is such total garbage. You have managed to present only tiny minority perspective of Christianity as the total truth, while disparaging Islam.

Okay, okay. Too many words for you. Let me get right to the heart of what religion is for. Religion is there for basically three things:
1. To show people how to live a good and righteous life on earth;
2. To show people the way to be saved for a good life in the hereafter;
3. To show crooks how to make money off believers.

That's essentially it, except if you want to suggest that some people might use religion as a scapegoat... "The devil made me do it," or "Islam made me join ISIS."

True Islam hates those who join it because it is sending all true Islamites to a harmful hereafter... Hell.

True Christianity loves those who join it, because it is sending them to a joyful and glorious hereafter... Heaven.

A difference between Islam and Christianity regarding the hereafter is, you don't have to be Islamic to go to Hell. You just have to NOT be true Christian.

There you go. This is basically it, except to say, true Christianity is believing in the salvation that Jesus worked, for salvation into Heaven and escape from Hell.

Not too many words for me. Just wrong stuff. You are preaching a minority sectarian view of Christianity, and presenting it as Da TRUTH. That's such total bullshit. I'm sure your intentions are good, but to not be dishonest one must present the broader view. "One trend of thought in Christianity is..." would be an approach.

As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

A person can go and do some little thing that might have some little bit to do with anything, and go out and say, now I am one of them. Is he?

The bottom line point of Christianity is believing in Jesus for salvation. The second is attempting to live as righteous of a life here as possible. Any joker can call himself a Christian for any reason or no reason. That doesn't mean he is one. It is similar for the joker who says, Today I am an Islamite. Doesn't make it true just because he says it, or because the media says he is.

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As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

edit : wait wait wait,

so you agree muslims are not terrorists and islam does not teach terrorism? because thats what you said. also
islamite, you should really search for the word

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Islam suggests ways for a person to gain a good afterlife - Heaven. Christianity does this also. Both religions have a different method for getting to Heaven. The methods are quite opposite, Islam stating that Heaven is gained through doing things, Christianity expressing that Heaven is gained through the things that Jesus already did... if one believes.

Because of how opposite these two religions are in this key point, if one of them is right, the other most certainly is false.

Since, as has been stated, the religion doesn't do or feel anything until it gets into the people, when the false religion gets into people, if it teaches falsehood about the hereafter, it essentially becomes hatred in the people who believe it. Not only does it become hatred, but it is hatred that is not necessarily felt as such by its adherers. Why not? Because it is destroying its own people simply by wrong belief, not by active emotion against others.

There is no salvation for and to Heaven except through the work Jesus did on the cross, and by His resurrection from the dead. Therefore, Islam hates those who believe it because it is working inside those who believe it, the method to send them to Hell forever. How does it do this? It keeps them from believing in the salvation of Jesus, the only way to Heaven.

Everyone dies. A religion of good works for this life is great. But it is not as nearly important as a religion that brings one to everlasting life in Heaven. Islam hates because it is bringing all of its true believers to Hell.

That is such total garbage. You have managed to present only tiny minority perspective of Christianity as the total truth, while disparaging Islam.

Okay, okay. Too many words for you. Let me get right to the heart of what religion is for. Religion is there for basically three things:
1. To show people how to live a good and righteous life on earth;
2. To show people the way to be saved for a good life in the hereafter;
3. To show crooks how to make money off believers.

That's essentially it, except if you want to suggest that some people might use religion as a scapegoat... "The devil made me do it," or "Islam made me join ISIS."

True Islam hates those who join it because it is sending all true Islamites to a harmful hereafter... Hell.

True Christianity loves those who join it, because it is sending them to a joyful and glorious hereafter... Heaven.

A difference between Islam and Christianity regarding the hereafter is, you don't have to be Islamic to go to Hell. You just have to NOT be true Christian.

There you go. This is basically it, except to say, true Christianity is believing in the salvation that Jesus worked, for salvation into Heaven and escape from Hell.

Not too many words for me. Just wrong stuff. You are preaching a minority sectarian view of Christianity, and presenting it as Da TRUTH. That's such total bullshit. I'm sure your intentions are good, but to not be dishonest one must present the broader view. "One trend of thought in Christianity is..." would be an approach.

As an example, some joker might say to himself, I'm gonna become a Christian today. So, he goes to the store and gets a little cross necklace, puts it on, and declares, Now I'm a Christian. Is he a Christian?

A person can go and do some little thing that might have some little bit to do with anything, and go out and say, now I am one of them. Is he?

The bottom line point of Christianity is believing in Jesus for salvation. The second is attempting to live as righteous of a life here as possible. Any joker can call himself a Christian for any reason or no reason. That doesn't mean he is one. It is similar for the joker who says, Today I am an Islamite. Doesn't make it true just because he says it, or because the media says he is.

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Islam suggests ways for a person to gain a good afterlife - Heaven. Christianity does this also. Both religions have a different method for getting to Heaven. The methods are quite opposite, Islam stating that Heaven is gained through doing things, Christianity expressing that Heaven is gained through the things that Jesus already did... if one believes.

Because of how opposite these two religions are in this key point, if one of them is right, the other most certainly is false.

Since, as has been stated, the religion doesn't do or feel anything until it gets into the people, when the false religion gets into people, if it teaches falsehood about the hereafter, it essentially becomes hatred in the people who believe it. Not only does it become hatred, but it is hatred that is not necessarily felt as such by its adherers. Why not? Because it is destroying its own people simply by wrong belief, not by active emotion against others.

There is no salvation for and to Heaven except through the work Jesus did on the cross, and by His resurrection from the dead. Therefore, Islam hates those who believe it because it is working inside those who believe it, the method to send them to Hell forever. How does it do this? It keeps them from believing in the salvation of Jesus, the only way to Heaven.

Everyone dies. A religion of good works for this life is great. But it is not as nearly important as a religion that brings one to everlasting life in Heaven. Islam hates because it is bringing all of its true believers to Hell.

That is such total garbage. You have managed to present only tiny minority perspective of Christianity as the total truth, while disparaging Islam.

Okay, okay. Too many words for you. Let me get right to the heart of what religion is for. Religion is there for basically three things:
1. To show people how to live a good and righteous life on earth;
2. To show people the way to be saved for a good life in the hereafter;
3. To show crooks how to make money off believers.

That's essentially it, except if you want to suggest that some people might use religion as a scapegoat... "The devil made me do it," or "Islam made me join ISIS."

True Islam hates those who join it because it is sending all true Islamites to a harmful hereafter... Hell.

True Christianity loves those who join it, because it is sending them to a joyful and glorious hereafter... Heaven.

A difference between Islam and Christianity regarding the hereafter is, you don't have to be Islamic to go to Hell. You just have to NOT be true Christian.

There you go. This is basically it, except to say, true Christianity is believing in the salvation that Jesus worked, for salvation into Heaven and escape from Hell.

Not too many words for me. Just wrong stuff. You are preaching a minority sectarian view of Christianity, and presenting it as Da TRUTH. That's such total bullshit. I'm sure your intentions are good, but to not be dishonest one must present the broader view. "One trend of thought in Christianity is..." would be an approach.

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Quote from: Spendulus on May 03, 2015, 07:33:13 AM

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Islam suggests ways for a person to gain a good afterlife - Heaven. Christianity does this also. Both religions have a different method for getting to Heaven. The methods are quite opposite, Islam stating that Heaven is gained through doing things, Christianity expressing that Heaven is gained through the things that Jesus already did... if one believes.

Because of how opposite these two religions are in this key point, if one of them is right, the other most certainly is false.

Since, as has been stated, the religion doesn't do or feel anything until it gets into the people, when the false religion gets into people, if it teaches falsehood about the hereafter, it essentially becomes hatred in the people who believe it. Not only does it become hatred, but it is hatred that is not necessarily felt as such by its adherers. Why not? Because it is destroying its own people simply by wrong belief, not by active emotion against others.

There is no salvation for and to Heaven except through the work Jesus did on the cross, and by His resurrection from the dead. Therefore, Islam hates those who believe it because it is working inside those who believe it, the method to send them to Hell forever. How does it do this? It keeps them from believing in the salvation of Jesus, the only way to Heaven.

Everyone dies. A religion of good works for this life is great. But it is not as nearly important as a religion that brings one to everlasting life in Heaven. Islam hates because it is bringing all of its true believers to Hell.

That is such total garbage. You have managed to present only tiny minority perspective of Christianity as the total truth, while disparaging Islam.

Okay, okay. Too many words for you. Let me get right to the heart of what religion is for. Religion is there for basically three things:
1. To show people how to live a good and righteous life on earth;
2. To show people the way to be saved for a good life in the hereafter;
3. To show crooks how to make money off believers.

That's essentially it, except if you want to suggest that some people might use religion as a scapegoat... "The devil made me do it," or "Islam made me join ISIS."

True Islam hates those who join it because it is sending all true Islamites to a harmful hereafter... Hell.

True Christianity loves those who join it, because it is sending them to a joyful and glorious hereafter... Heaven.

A difference between Islam and Christianity regarding the hereafter is, you don't have to be Islamic to go to Hell. You just have to NOT be true Christian.

There you go. This is basically it, except to say, true Christianity is believing in the salvation that Jesus worked, for salvation into Heaven and escape from Hell.

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Backward culture hence inability to defend themselves. Envy the rest and want to move there bringing their stone age mentality, which is causing huge problems all over Europe, US and even Russia.

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Quote from: Netpyder on May 03, 2015, 02:51:07 AM

Quote from: Netpyder on May 03, 2015, 02:51:07 AM

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Islam suggests ways for a person to gain a good afterlife - Heaven. Christianity does this also. Both religions have a different method for getting to Heaven. The methods are quite opposite, Islam stating that Heaven is gained through doing things, Christianity expressing that Heaven is gained through the things that Jesus already did... if one believes.

Because of how opposite these two religions are in this key point, if one of them is right, the other most certainly is false.

Since, as has been stated, the religion doesn't do or feel anything until it gets into the people, when the false religion gets into people, if it teaches falsehood about the hereafter, it essentially becomes hatred in the people who believe it. Not only does it become hatred, but it is hatred that is not necessarily felt as such by its adherers. Why not? Because it is destroying its own people simply by wrong belief, not by active emotion against others.

There is no salvation for and to Heaven except through the work Jesus did on the cross, and by His resurrection from the dead. Therefore, Islam hates those who believe it because it is working inside those who believe it, the method to send them to Hell forever. How does it do this? It keeps them from believing in the salvation of Jesus, the only way to Heaven.

Everyone dies. A religion of good works for this life is great. But it is not as nearly important as a religion that brings one to everlasting life in Heaven. Islam hates because it is bringing all of its true believers to Hell.

That is such total garbage. You have managed to present only tiny minority perspective of Christianity as the total truth, while disparaging Islam.

one muslim do bad thing = Islam is bad, most muslims are bad.

one christian/hindu/jew/etc do bad thing = he acted solely upon his will and no religion is involved.

Notice I disagree completely with Badecker's assertions.

yes, i only quoted the last message not you. sorry about that

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