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Topic: Why do islam hates people? - page 180. (Read 437405 times)

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March 12, 2015, 02:48:47 AM
Posting something like this doesnt help.

We should not hate, or push people to hate other people.

Why not post something that makes sense, or some news?

Not this.
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March 12, 2015, 12:39:47 AM
I would not judge all muslim people, just because few islam religious soldiers are doing harm to western civilized world. They are doing it for their God, and they think that is the right thing to do. Of course, it is not.

No one has the right to take someone else's life.


... Unless. Infidels?





Or unless they have oil and we have better weapons?

That isn't right. It's capability.


Tell that to American and European colonial powers. Been using that capability as if it was a right for centuries.

There is no place in the Quran where Muhammad commands Muslims to love people of other religions.  By contrast there are at least three dozen verses that tell Muslims to fight against non-Muslims and about 500 that speak of their place in Hell.  They are from each period in Muhammad's life, scattered across 87 of the Quran's 114 chapters.

The interesting thing about it all is, most of the Muslims live in reasonably illiterate parts of the world. And most of the literate Muslim countries aren't any more interested in reading their holy books than any other religious group is interested in reading theirs.

My question is, just how shocked would the Muslims be if they could and did read the Quran and the Hadith? Would they become strict Muslims and change from their peaceful ways to obey the strict, violent writings of their professed religion? Or would they realize that Islam wasn't for them and change to some other religion... or maybe drop the religion idea altogether?

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Or do the same as Christians and Jews do? Pick the parts they like and ignore the rest. Truth is that is already what happens. No matter the religion.

People of all religions have trouble stomaching the things of their own religion that they don't like. However, of the major religions of today, Islam writings contain the most violence. Violence is a big thing. Doing or not doing miracles might be big. Speaking in tongues or not might be big with some. Yet, somehow those things don't seem as important as the call to openly do violence.

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Yet somehow the vast majority of Muslims aren't violent murdering psychopaths. Same as Christians. Same as Jews. They go about their life like anyone else. Trying to put food on the table and take care of their family. Violence isn't normalized the way you're making it out to be just because they are Muslim. They ignore that part of their religion as others do. And if someone is in fact a murdering psychopath he will justify it with the violent parts of their beliefs. Same with other religions.
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March 11, 2015, 11:37:35 PM
I would not judge all muslim people, just because few islam religious soldiers are doing harm to western civilized world. They are doing it for their God, and they think that is the right thing to do. Of course, it is not.

No one has the right to take someone else's life.


... Unless. Infidels?





Or unless they have oil and we have better weapons?

That isn't right. It's capability.


There is no place in the Quran where Muhammad commands Muslims to love people of other religions.  By contrast there are at least three dozen verses that tell Muslims to fight against non-Muslims and about 500 that speak of their place in Hell.  They are from each period in Muhammad's life, scattered across 87 of the Quran's 114 chapters.

The interesting thing about it all is, most of the Muslims live in reasonably illiterate parts of the world. And most of the literate Muslim countries aren't any more interested in reading their holy books than any other religious group is interested in reading theirs.

My question is, just how shocked would the Muslims be if they could and did read the Quran and the Hadith? Would they become strict Muslims and change from their peaceful ways to obey the strict, violent writings of their professed religion? Or would they realize that Islam wasn't for them and change to some other religion... or maybe drop the religion idea altogether?

Smiley

Or do the same as Christians and Jews do? Pick the parts they like and ignore the rest. Truth is that is already what happens. No matter the religion.

People of all religions have trouble stomaching the things of their own religion that they don't like. However, of the major religions of today, Islam writings contain the most violence. Violence is a big thing. Doing or not doing miracles might be big. Speaking in tongues or not might be big with some. Yet, somehow those things don't seem as important as the call to openly do violence.

Smiley
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 10:31:11 PM
I would not judge all muslim people, just because few islam religious soldiers are doing harm to western civilized world. They are doing it for their God, and they think that is the right thing to do. Of course, it is not.

No one has the right to take someone else's life.


... Unless. Infidels?





Or unless they have oil and we have better weapons?

There is no place in the Quran where Muhammad commands Muslims to love people of other religions.  By contrast there are at least three dozen verses that tell Muslims to fight against non-Muslims and about 500 that speak of their place in Hell.  They are from each period in Muhammad's life, scattered across 87 of the Quran's 114 chapters.

The interesting thing about it all is, most of the Muslims live in reasonably illiterate parts of the world. And most of the literate Muslim countries aren't any more interested in reading their holy books than any other religious group is interested in reading theirs.

My question is, just how shocked would the Muslims be if they could and did read the Quran and the Hadith? Would they become strict Muslims and change from their peaceful ways to obey the strict, violent writings of their professed religion? Or would they realize that Islam wasn't for them and change to some other religion... or maybe drop the religion idea altogether?

Smiley

Or do the same as Christians and Jews do? Pick the parts they like and ignore the rest. Truth is that is already what happens. No matter the religion.
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 09:35:45 PM
There is no place in the Quran where Muhammad commands Muslims to love people of other religions.  By contrast there are at least three dozen verses that tell Muslims to fight against non-Muslims and about 500 that speak of their place in Hell.  They are from each period in Muhammad's life, scattered across 87 of the Quran's 114 chapters.

The interesting thing about it all is, most of the Muslims live in reasonably illiterate parts of the world. And most of the literate Muslim countries aren't any more interested in reading their holy books than any other religious group is interested in reading theirs.

My question is, just how shocked would the Muslims be if they could and did read the Quran and the Hadith? Would they become strict Muslims and change from their peaceful ways to obey the strict, violent writings of their professed religion? Or would they realize that Islam wasn't for them and change to some other religion... or maybe drop the religion idea altogether?

Smiley
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March 11, 2015, 07:59:34 PM
There is no place in the Quran where Muhammad commands Muslims to love people of other religions.  By contrast there are at least three dozen verses that tell Muslims to fight against non-Muslims and about 500 that speak of their place in Hell.  They are from each period in Muhammad's life, scattered across 87 of the Quran's 114 chapters.
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 07:50:24 PM
I would not judge all muslim people, just because few islam religious soldiers are doing harm to western civilized world. They are doing it for their God, and they think that is the right thing to do. Of course, it is not.

No one has the right to take someone else's life.
A .... few?

Well, let us check the Monthly Jihad Report for February.

Monthly Jihad Report
February, 2015

 Jihad Attacks:    232
 Countries:    23
 Allah Akbars:    42
 Dead Bodies:    1977
 Critically Injured:2354
legendary
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March 11, 2015, 12:54:49 PM
If it isn't wrong for Muslims to take the lives of Infidels, then is it wrong for Islam to lie to Muslims by making them think that their religion is a peaceful one?

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March 11, 2015, 10:13:35 AM
I would not judge all muslim people, just because few islam religious soldiers are doing harm to western civilized world. They are doing it for their God, and they think that is the right thing to do. Of course, it is not.

No one has the right to take someone else's life.


... Unless. Infidels?



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March 11, 2015, 06:51:32 AM
I would not judge all muslim people, just because few islam religious soldiers are doing harm to western civilized world. They are doing it for their God, and they think that is the right thing to do. Of course, it is not.

No one has the right to take someone else's life.
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March 10, 2015, 08:46:01 PM

All religion is poison. Every single religion at one point in history has been responsible for pointless hate and slaughter.

Moral equivalency based on false pretenses.

Would you extend your assertion to various religions that no longer exist? 
That of the Incas, the Mayas, which advocated human sacrifice?  That of the Druids?
is your broad brush assertion applicable to those who follow Buddha?

What, please tell, of the Church of the Subgenius?

http://www.subgenius.com/

http://dobbscoin.info/images/dobbscoin16.png HELL!! Pointless HATE & Slaughter is our MAINSTAY
DEATH TO THE PINKBOYS - http://www.dobbscoin.com
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March 06, 2015, 01:48:42 PM
Fuck organized religion.
Superstition is the end of reason, and therefore the ally of violence. A less superstitious world is a less violent world.
Religion is all about controlling people through fear and shame. This naturally leads to a great deal of hatred, violence, and suffering.

The following is an excerpt from The Empathic Civilization - Becoming Human, pp 119 - 122 (TLDR at bottom)

"When we talk of guilt, we need to be clear not to confuse it with shame. Often the two terms are used interchangeably when, in fact, they are quite different. While guilt can trigger empathic distress and the desire to reach out and make amends to another whom one has harmed, shame denigrates a person’s being, making them feel worthless and inhuman. To be shamed is to be rejected. Shame is a way of isolating a person from the collective we. He or she becomes an outsider and a nonperson. Shame has the effect of turning off the innate empathic impulse. If one feels like a nonbeing, socially ostracized and without self-worth, he is unable to draw upon his empathic reserves to feel for another’s plight. Unable to emotionally connect with others, he either shrinks into withdrawal or acts out his sense of abandonment by exercising rage at others. Why rage? Because it is often the only way he has open to him to communicate and engage his fellow human beings. The idea of the “loner,” isolated from society and full of rage toward his fellows, is a phenomenon in every society.

When one is made to feel guilty, it is one’s humanity that is being called upon to do the right thing by another person. Unlike shaming someone, which isolates him from humanity, guilty is an internal mechanism that reminds one of his deep social connection to others and the need to repair the social bond. Guilt needs to be handled carefully. If a parent’s induction discipline creates too much of a sense of guilt in the child, he is likely to grow up feeling that nothing he can do will ever be adequate to amend a hurt or restore a social bond. If, on the other hand, a parent’s induction discipline doesn’t result in instilling at least a minimum of guilt in the child, he will grow up without being able to reflect on how his behavior affects others and unable to trigger sufficient empathic distress to re-heal the social bond. Just good enough parenting lets the child know that he did something wrong, but in a caring way that lets him know that he is still loved and regarded as a person. By explaining how the other person might feel and asking him how he would feel in the same situation, the parents are letting him know that they trust his innate goodness and desire to empathize with others and make amends. Equally important, the parents are teaching a cxhild that their love for him is no less because of his wrongful behavior. No one is perfect. The best we can expect of each other is to learn from our indiscretions and try to do better next time.
By shaming a child, however, the parents are letting him know that whe is not living up to their expectations and, therefore, not worthy of their consideration. Their expectations, rather than his humanity, become the focal point of the disciplinary exercise. The child is left with the impression that his very being is a disappointment and that he must conform to an “ideal image” of what his parents expects from him or suffer the consequence of rejection*.
Guilt cultures create a very different human being from shaming cultures. The American philosopher Martha Nussbaum puts it this way:
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Moral guilt is so much better than shame, because it can be atoned for, it does not sully the entirety of one’s being. It is a dignified emotion compatible with optimism about one’s own prospects. . . . Rather than making a forbidding and stifling demand for perfection, [morality] holds the child in her imperfection, telling her that the world contains possibilities of forgiveness and mercy, and that she is loved as a person of interest and worth in her own right. She therefore need not fear that her human imperfections will cause the world’s destruction. And because she is not stricken by annihilating shame at her imperfection, she will have less need for nevy and jealousy, emotions that express her desire for omnipotent control of the sources of good.

Ironically, while a shaming culture pretends to adhere to the highest standards of moral perfection, in reality it produces a culture of self-hate, envy, jealousy, and hatred toward others. Shaming cultures, throughout history, have been the most aggressive and violent because they lock up the empathic impulse, and with it the ability to experience another’s plight and respond with acts of compassion. When a child grows up in a shaming culture believing that he must conform to an ideal of perfection or purity or suffer the wrath of the community, he is likely to judge everyone else by the same rigid, uncompromising standards. Lacking empathy, he is unable to experience other people’s suffering as if it were his own and therefore is likely to judge their plight as their own fault because they failed to live up to the standards of perfection expected of them by society.
   Shaming cultures still exist in traditional societies. It is not uncommon to hear about a woman who has been gang-raped and who is then stoned to death by her own family and neighbors, because she has brought shame on herself and her family. Rather than empathize with her suffering, the community inflicts even greater punishment on her by taking her life. In the eyes of the community, she bears the shame of the rape, despite the fact that she was the innocent victim. As far as her family and neighbors are concerned, she is forever defiled and impure and therefore an object of disgust to be blotted out. The power of shaming cultures to squelch empathy and transform human beings into monsters is terrifying to behold."

TLDR
"While a shaming culture pretends to adhere to the highest standards of moral perfection, in reality it produces a culture of self-hate, envy, jealousy, and hatred toward others. Shaming cultures, throughout history, have been the most aggressive and violent because they lock up the empathic impulse, and with it the ability to experience another’s plight and respond with acts of compassion. When a child grows up in a shaming culture believing that he must conform to an ideal of perfection or purity or suffer the wrath of the community, he is likely to judge everyone else by the same rigid, uncompromising standards. Lacking empathy, he is unable to experience other people’s suffering as if it were his own and therefore is likely to judge their plight as their own fault because they failed to live up to the standards of perfection expected of them by society. (...) The power of shaming cultures to squelch empathy and transform human beings into monsters is terrifying to behold."
-Jeremy Rifkin

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March 06, 2015, 12:01:39 PM
- snip -

God is real.Stop making lies.No one can lie that hard.
Sure, they will know their mistakes after they was died.
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March 06, 2015, 07:15:44 AM
The 3 basic reasons to wipe Religion off the face of the Earth(There are countless more):

1) Religion only causes intolerance, mistrust, hate, divide, and cruelty
2) No one religion is right, they all have followers that fervently believe theirs and theirs only is true(Which confesses to the logical assumption that none is true)
3) God(s) does not exist

Hey peoples in this thread! We have an atheist here
C'mon theres so many proof God exist

Quite the opposite. The data against God's existence far outweighs the "data"(If you classify people's opinions and bind faith as data) for God's existence.



What if you could create a thread about the existence of God... 

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God is real.Stop making lies.No one can lie that hard.
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March 06, 2015, 12:16:29 AM
The 3 basic reasons to wipe Religion off the face of the Earth(There are countless more):

1) Religion only causes intolerance, mistrust, hate, divide, and cruelty
2) No one religion is right, they all have followers that fervently believe theirs and theirs only is true(Which confesses to the logical assumption that none is true)
3) God(s) does not exist

Hey peoples in this thread! We have an atheist here
C'mon theres so many proof God exist

Quite the opposite. The data against God's existence far outweighs the "data"(If you classify people's opinions and bind faith as data) for God's existence.



What if you could create a thread about the existence of God... 

Smiley

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March 05, 2015, 11:43:10 PM
The 3 basic reasons to wipe Religion off the face of the Earth(There are countless more):

1) Religion only causes intolerance, mistrust, hate, divide, and cruelty
2) No one religion is right, they all have followers that fervently believe theirs and theirs only is true(Which confesses to the logical assumption that none is true)
3) God(s) does not exist

Hey peoples in this thread! We have an atheist here
C'mon theres so many proof God exist

Quite the opposite. The data against God's existence far outweighs the "data"(If you classify people's opinions and bind faith as data) for God's existence.
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March 05, 2015, 11:37:45 PM
The 3 basic reasons to wipe Religion off the face of the Earth(There are countless more):

1) Religion only causes intolerance, mistrust, hate, divide, and cruelty
2) No one religion is right, they all have followers that fervently believe theirs and theirs only is true(Which confesses to the logical assumption that none is true)
3) God(s) does not exist

Hey peoples in this thread! We have an atheist here
C'mon theres so many proof God exist
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March 05, 2015, 11:08:40 PM
The 3 basic reasons to wipe Religion off the face of the Earth(There are countless more):

1) Religion only causes intolerance, mistrust, hate, divide, and cruelty
2) No one religion is right, they all have followers that fervently believe theirs and theirs only is true(Which confesses to the logical assumption that none is true)
3) God(s) does not exist
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March 05, 2015, 11:06:18 PM
British Islamic Group’s Billboard Warns Non-Muslims To “Be Careful With Mohammed”…
The Muslim Action Forum (MAF), which staged a protest outside Downing Street against Charlie Hebdo in February, has launched a "legal strategy" to stop insults against Mohammed.

If people of different religions start behaving this way, we can say goodbye to freedom of expression.

Burkas are an insult to my religion of Atheism.
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