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February 21, 2015, 01:53:23 AM
You clearly don't know any history of Middle East and how ISIS originated and who is its direct beneficiary. ISIS is funded to destruct muslims by killing them and at the same time maligning Islam


So you do not think Osama bin ladin is still alive and the mastermind of all this sweeping terrorism?
(For the record, I do not believe Osama is alive. I think he really was put down by Seal Team 6 before he was able to wipe away the tons of porn he left behind on his computer.)
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February 21, 2015, 12:20:27 AM
You clearly don't know any history of Middle East and how ISIS originated and who is its direct beneficiary. ISIS is funded to destruct muslims by killing them and at the same time maligning Islam
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Christians often recognize, sort of naturally, that the science fictions are fictions, but they don't realize that many atheists and liberals take them as fact. This causes the Christians to naturally think that the atheists and liberals are picking on something else, like picking on their religion or insulting their culture.

While you are correct that the big bang theory and so on is called theory for a reason, there is far more physical evidence to back up these claims than your invisible unproven god, the same goes for any other creationist religion, sun worshippers already have one up on you there because at least I can point to the sun and go "Oh there it is! I see it too" if it weren't for the sheer amount of people who believe what you believe people would say you belong in a mental hospital but it is basically mass social peer pressure that prevents people from claiming this sort of thing about religion.

The point about science is, it's about discovering truth and being absolutely sure that you've found the right answer, whereas religion is all based on somebody elses assumption.
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February 20, 2015, 03:23:27 PM
@Spendulus , those killers have nothing to do with Islam , again "Extremists" . If you read Quran and Hadith of our prophet you would know that for a muslim "killing one person is like killing the whole humanity and saving one person is like saving the whole humanity."
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This sounds like the No True Scotsman fallacy.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman The truth is that there are many people who commit terrible acts and call themselves Muslims. (Not to single out Muslims - it's true for all religions that teach violence is wrong and have self-identified believers commit violent acts - but Islam was your example, so I'm sticking with it.) It doesn't matter if we say that their actions are not in keeping with their faith, it only matters if they're using their faith to justify their violent actions. And these extremist groups are. The question is how do you get the religious leaders and other members of the faith to reject these people and ostracize them. They're acting for like-minded approval and prestige in their own movement. The world needs to deny them of that. There needs to be no prestige and status for people who kill.

Violence is right, look at nature, you attack the cubs of a bear, what does the mother bear do? put you in thousand of piece while teaching her cubs how to handle unarmed bipeds, and it will train their stomachs for future meat.

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February 20, 2015, 03:22:08 PM
@Spendulus , those killers have nothing to do with Islam , again "Extremists" . If you read Quran and Hadith of our prophet you would know that for a muslim "killing one person is like killing the whole humanity and saving one person is like saving the whole humanity."
~ Madness

This sounds like the No True Scotsman fallacy.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman The truth is that there are many people who commit terrible acts and call themselves Muslims. (Not to single out Muslims - it's true for all religions that teach violence is wrong and have self-identified believers commit violent acts - but Islam was your example, so I'm sticking with it.) It doesn't matter if we say that their actions are not in keeping with their faith, it only matters if they're using their faith to justify their violent actions. And these extremist groups are. The question is how do you get the religious leaders and other members of the faith to reject these people and ostracize them. They're acting for like-minded approval and prestige in their own movement. The world needs to deny them of that. There needs to be no prestige and status for people who kill.
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February 20, 2015, 03:09:03 PM

Our enemies are merely ourselves in another space/time culture, we need to stop being manipulated.


The only way to stop being manipulated is to manipulate others into stopping their manipulating of us.

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Or wiping them out of the surface of the Earth, both work.
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February 20, 2015, 03:05:13 PM

Our enemies are merely ourselves in another space/time culture, we need to stop being manipulated.


The only way to stop being manipulated is to manipulate others into stopping their manipulating of us.

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February 20, 2015, 02:37:09 PM
When it comes right down to it, everyone has sold his/her soul. Most of the people don't realize what they have done. But if they do, they don't understand the far reaching effects.

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February 20, 2015, 02:28:35 PM
Hey!
I dont think that islam hates people, i being a hindu from india have many friends who follow islam but they dont hate people, its just we are tagging every muslim or every person who follows islam as a person ho hates people!
Was hitler a muslim? No!
We cant judge people on the basis of their religon!


I agree with you , All the religions teach us peace and love these are human who bring hate and war. Those people can be from any religion .
Thank you!
And usually people think that people following islam hate people, this is just bcz they think behind every terrorist group there are muslims, but behind every terrorist are uneducated and obssesed people!
Amen. I know a lot of Muslims who absolutely hate DASCH. I was in Jordan when they got the pilot and I assure you, there is very little support there. They do not consider DASCH to be Muslims, but rather as cultists.



the su... and the shi... should unite and fight off this cancer themselves, without the needs of the crusaaaaders, me think.






Recently 2 muslim men died saving a hindu girl child.... so do u still think they hate people!
Na i dont think so, and the most cute gals are muslim, even i have a crush on a muslim girl since 9th grade!

Ahmm ahmm where are you from ! :? An what is your region

i am from India!

lol. now i even know the name of the girl whom you have crush on.
best of luck with her.


i also dont think that muslims hate people. there are just some scumbags who hate other people. A religion is never to be tagged for anything wrong.
Lol u got me bud!
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And dont tell her abt this post -.- and i mean it!

You really dont have the guts to get her btw. Its been almost 3years now. you should have done something earlier.

And i wont disclose it to anyone. dont worry.
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February 20, 2015, 02:19:04 PM
Hey!
I dont think that islam hates people, i being a hindu from india have many friends who follow islam but they dont hate people, its just we are tagging every muslim or every person who follows islam as a person ho hates people!
Was hitler a muslim? No!
We cant judge people on the basis of their religon!


I agree with you , All the religions teach us peace and love these are human who bring hate and war. Those people can be from any religion .
Thank you!
And usually people think that people following islam hate people, this is just bcz they think behind every terrorist group there are muslims, but behind every terrorist are uneducated and obssesed people!
Amen. I know a lot of Muslims who absolutely hate DASCH. I was in Jordan when they got the pilot and I assure you, there is very little support there. They do not consider DASCH to be Muslims, but rather as cultists.



the su... and the shi... should unite and fight off this cancer themselves, without the needs of the crusaaaaders, me think.






Recently 2 muslim men died saving a hindu girl child.... so do u still think they hate people!
Na i dont think so, and the most cute gals are muslim, even i have a crush on a muslim girl since 9th grade!

Ahmm ahmm where are you from ! :? An what is your region

i am from India!

lol. now i even know the name of the girl whom you have crush on.
best of luck with her.


i also dont think that muslims hate people. there are just some scumbags who hate other people. A religion is never to be tagged for anything wrong.
Lol u got me bud!
Evry dog has his day, and one i will hav mine :v
And dont tell her abt this post -.- and i mean it!
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February 20, 2015, 02:04:41 PM
Hey!
I dont think that islam hates people, i being a hindu from india have many friends who follow islam but they dont hate people, its just we are tagging every muslim or every person who follows islam as a person ho hates people!
Was hitler a muslim? No!
We cant judge people on the basis of their religon!


I agree with you , All the religions teach us peace and love these are human who bring hate and war. Those people can be from any religion .
Thank you!
And usually people think that people following islam hate people, this is just bcz they think behind every terrorist group there are muslims, but behind every terrorist are uneducated and obssesed people!
Amen. I know a lot of Muslims who absolutely hate DASCH. I was in Jordan when they got the pilot and I assure you, there is very little support there. They do not consider DASCH to be Muslims, but rather as cultists.



the su... and the shi... should unite and fight off this cancer themselves, without the needs of the crusaaaaders, me think.






Recently 2 muslim men died saving a hindu girl child.... so do u still think they hate people!
Na i dont think so, and the most cute gals are muslim, even i have a crush on a muslim girl since 9th grade!

Ahmm ahmm where are you from ! :? An what is your region

i am from India!

lol. now i even know the name of the girl whom you have crush on.
best of luck with her.


i also dont think that muslims hate people. there are just some scumbags who hate other people. A religion is never to be tagged for anything wrong.
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February 20, 2015, 02:03:04 PM
In a recent interview US prez obama said, they are fighting against terrorism not islam or muslims....
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February 20, 2015, 01:56:59 PM
I am an Atheist, I am a Pagan, I am a Christian,  I am a Jew, I am a Muslim, I am a Buddhist …., I am Theist. I am all of these things and none of them; an oxymoron for sue, but first and foremost I am an individual the same as all others, who seeks truth in universal principals.

The thing that makes us unique is our ability to be all of the above and none of the above through our gift of individual choice.  While our cultures will imprint on us the baggage of the past we each have the ability to free ourselves from its dogma, the question is whether we have the courage or will to do so. Humanities greatest impediment has always been dogma; it is by removing contradiction that truth is revealed.

The noblest choice we have is empathy it is what allows us to learn, if we stop learning we stop growing, anything that is not growing is dying.

The Middle East has been the well spring of several key components
-Some of our earliest history and religions, from the Egyptians, Judaism and Christians
-It has the greatest source of oil

Both highly inflammatory sources

IMO the conflict we see in the ME and the world is are rooted in the use of divide and rule by nihilist attitudes that deliberately fan ideological sectarianism to divide us and pit on group against the other, its the easiest way to rule.  They continuously flip flop between creating the problem by supporting extremists then once that sock puppet becomes too powerful they support an even more extreme opposition to remove it. It’s a cycle of create the problem, await the reaction, engineer the “solution” (a new divide and rule which leads to an even more extreme problem). No attempt is made to resolve the cases by seeking and implementing universal principles, merely to window dress them and mask them by holding up the symptoms based on the lowest common denominator fear.    

Rather then be manipulated we must fight to support universal principles of mutual respect and tolerance and trade. Principals that we all share and come naturally to us as individuals, but are clearly abused when we hand that responsibility to a collective. This is why I am in principal an anarchist, I do however recognise that there are instances where collective powers are required but feel they should be kept to a minimum and powers should be dissolved to individual responsibility as far as possible. The Blockchain offers this ability without it needing to be centralised

Our enemies are merely ourselves in another space/time culture, we need to stop being manipulated.
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February 20, 2015, 12:29:45 PM
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There is an issue which troubles me a bit, here is what it is.  We see often atheists and liberals arguing and insulting fundamentalist Christians, often from a position of ignorance.  This is done based on correct facts, however the Christian finds not that his religion has been insulted but his culture.  Or the town he lives in, or his friends.  He does not see it as a strict fact base argument against particular sentences in a religious book.

Oh I can easily get into arguments about religious scriptured if you want me to Spendulus because if anything that's worse than the culture religious people choose to live by Wink

Science fact is simple science that can be proved by chemical or electrical reactions, and such.

Science fiction that is often called science fact are things like Big Bang Theory or Evolution Theory or even Chaos Theory. This kind of science is theory, because it isn't known to be fact. If it were known to be fact, it would be called "law," not "theory."

Christians often recognize, sort of naturally, that the science fictions are fictions, but they don't realize that many atheists and liberals take them as fact. This causes the Christians to naturally think that the atheists and liberals are picking on something else, like picking on their religion or insulting their culture.

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There is an issue which troubles me a bit, here is what it is.  We see often atheists and liberals arguing and insulting fundamentalist Christians, often from a position of ignorance.  This is done based on correct facts, however the Christian finds not that his religion has been insulted but his culture.  Or the town he lives in, or his friends.  He does not see it as a strict fact base argument against particular sentences in a religious book.

Oh I can easily get into arguments about religious scriptured if you want me to Spendulus because if anything that's worse than the culture religious people choose to live by Wink
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