Don't ask what the state can do for you but what can you do for state.
Don't ask any of those things, ask what you can do outside any group.
Topic: why do people agree to pay taxes? - page 111. (Read 51023 times)
Don't ask any of those things, ask what you can do outside any group.
Don't ask what the state can do for you but what can you do for state.
Fascinating. Irrelevant to my post tho.
>pay for them through the price of cars
I build & sell cars, and you want me to up my prices & charge road tax on them? Nice try, socialist leach.
I build & sell cars, and you want me to up my prices & charge road tax on them? Nice try, socialist leach.
What's the obsession with "what about the roads?"
People should pay for them through the price of cars and public transport.
And sidewalks could be the responsibility of whoever builds the building in front of them.
People should pay for them through the price of cars and public transport.
And sidewalks could be the responsibility of whoever builds the building in front of them.
The problem with letting the economy run according to demand and price, is that it will do just that. In the short term, this seems like a fine problem to have; long-term, not so much.
Ex: Many townships with few people still need roads and bridges and public works projects. If it were left to private companies, these projects would never happen as the top dollar would only be made in high population areas.
Ex: Many townships with few people still need roads and bridges and public works projects. If it were left to private companies, these projects would never happen as the top dollar would only be made in high population areas.
If people cannot afford to live somewhere, they should live somewhere else they can actually afford. If rich people want to live out in BFE, they can afford to build and maintain their own infrastructure, and decide whether to make it public or private, without having a government to bribe for preferential treatment.
i agree, although it will harsh, but better living in somewhere we can afford, anyway, i believe company got what they called as public dedication or whatever is that , that actually give a small amount of what they earn back to the town where they do business in term of facility to the town
The problem with letting the economy run according to demand and price, is that it will do just that. In the short term, this seems like a fine problem to have; long-term, not so much.
Ex: Many townships with few people still need roads and bridges and public works projects. If it were left to private companies, these projects would never happen as the top dollar would only be made in high population areas.
Ex: Many townships with few people still need roads and bridges and public works projects. If it were left to private companies, these projects would never happen as the top dollar would only be made in high population areas.
If people cannot afford to live somewhere, they should live somewhere else they can actually afford. If rich people want to live out in BFE, they can afford to build and maintain their own infrastructure, and decide whether to make it public or private, without having a government to bribe for preferential treatment.
The problem with letting the economy run according to demand and price, is that it will do just that. In the short term, this seems like a fine problem to have; long-term, not so much.
Ex: Many townships with few people still need roads and bridges and public works projects. If it were left to private companies, these projects would never happen as the top dollar would only be made in high population areas.
Ex: Many townships with few people still need roads and bridges and public works projects. If it were left to private companies, these projects would never happen as the top dollar would only be made in high population areas.
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i propose that we let companies that specialize in construction do these things and charge a fee on their use.
that way you have a market for the best roads and you vote directly with your wallet instead of being stuck with the useless roads governments build with no consideration for demand and price.
i propose that we let companies that specialize in construction do these things and charge a fee on their use.
that way you have a market for the best roads and you vote directly with your wallet instead of being stuck with the useless roads governments build with no consideration for demand and price.
You got your wish.
Teh Gubermint doesn't build roads--companies specializing in roadbuilding bid on contracts and, having won, proceed to build roads.
That said, let me feed your paranoia: You know who else built excellent roads?
Hitler!
So what if Hitler built excellent roads?
Hitler was a vegetarian too, you know?
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i propose that we let companies that specialize in construction do these things and charge a fee on their use.
that way you have a market for the best roads and you vote directly with your wallet instead of being stuck with the useless roads governments build with no consideration for demand and price.
i propose that we let companies that specialize in construction do these things and charge a fee on their use.
that way you have a market for the best roads and you vote directly with your wallet instead of being stuck with the useless roads governments build with no consideration for demand and price.
You got your wish.
Teh Gubermint doesn't build roads--companies specializing in roadbuilding bid on contracts and, having won, proceed to build roads.
That said, let me feed your paranoia: You know who else built excellent roads?
Hitler!
I don't think most Americans agreed to pay taxes (at least initially before the 1900s). It pissed a lot of folks off and caused major riffs and war.
Sixteenth Amendment--
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
I'd encourage anyone to have a look through this site and have a read if you have some spare time. The taxation waters are murky and rife with unexplainable injustices.
http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm
The IRS is not even a governmental agency, but a trust; closer to a subcontractor of the federal government.
Sixteenth Amendment--
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
I'd encourage anyone to have a look through this site and have a read if you have some spare time. The taxation waters are murky and rife with unexplainable injustices.
http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm
The IRS is not even a governmental agency, but a trust; closer to a subcontractor of the federal government.
The general public is too imbecilic to be trusted to do each and every job the government takes care of for us.
democracy (noun) - from the Greek "demokratia" meaning "rule by the imbeciles".
So you'd propose that each individual build, provide and maintain the roads they need to use? The sewers they need to use? The schools for their children? The plows to keep snow off the roads? The powerlines to get electricity? Etc, etc, etc...
So naive.
People agree to pay taxes because they voted to pay taxes...if people don't want to pay taxes they should vote their government services away.
i propose that we let companies that specialize in construction do these things and charge a fee on their use.
that way you have a market for the best roads and you vote directly with your wallet instead of being stuck with the useless roads governments build with no consideration for demand and price.
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you do understand that the government isn't made out of a superior race of aliens.
its composed of the same general public you consider to be too imbecilic to do the job...
you do understand that the government isn't made out of a superior race of aliens.
its composed of the same general public you consider to be too imbecilic to do the job...
Brain surgeons aren't superior aliens either. They are a bit better at brain surgery than you tho.
and yet you don't want there to be only one brain surgeon with a monopoly on his profession.
if i don't have a jub i don't pay,this is the true and this is the system.
i don't pay for one reazant,people that go to jail.
i don't pay for one reazant,people that go to jail.
even without a job you need to pay taxes, if you go above a certain limit, government is the first and the worse thief
I leave in a caravan,i don't pay water, bill and internet, let's say i pay only when I buy food,but nothing more.
I think the main point is not paying taxes, but paying too much in taxes!
For example, Tax on your pay cheque, then tax when you buy something, then tax when you sell something!
Tax on top of tax, its just too much! Then there is the issue of miss management of tax money. Where should my tax dollars be spent?
For example, Tax on your pay cheque, then tax when you buy something, then tax when you sell something!
Tax on top of tax, its just too much! Then there is the issue of miss management of tax money. Where should my tax dollars be spent?
The general public is too imbecilic to be trusted to do each and every job the government takes care of for us.
democracy (noun) - from the Greek "demokratia" meaning "rule by the imbeciles".
So you'd propose that each individual build, provide and maintain the roads they need to use? The sewers they need to use? The schools for their children? The plows to keep snow off the roads? The powerlines to get electricity? Etc, etc, etc...
So naive.
People agree to pay taxes because they voted to pay taxes...if people don't want to pay taxes they should vote their government services away.
The general public is too imbecilic to be trusted to do each and every job the government takes care of for us.
democracy (noun) - from the Greek "demokratia" meaning "rule by the imbeciles".
if i don't have a jub i don't pay,this is the true and this is the system.
i don't pay for one reazant,people that go to jail.
i don't pay for one reazant,people that go to jail.
even without a job you need to pay taxes, if you go above a certain limit, government is the first and the worse thief
In my country, the police and prisons are funded from tax money.
The private companies had a crack at it, and they failed to make enough money from it, and withdraw...
So someone has to fund this part of the need from society or we would have had rapist and murderers running around killing people and our kids would not be safe.
So yes.. I would gladly pay my tax.. it's after all less painfull than being murdered or raped.
The private companies had a crack at it, and they failed to make enough money from it, and withdraw...
So someone has to fund this part of the need from society or we would have had rapist and murderers running around killing people and our kids would not be safe.
So yes.. I would gladly pay my tax.. it's after all less painfull than being murdered or raped.
Agreed. The general public is too imbecilic to be trusted to do each and every job the government takes care of for us.
I, personally, support taxes as without taxes we would not have police, prisons, highways, emergency weather warning systems, utility infrastructure, food safety regulations, workplace safety regulations, house code standards, roadway laws, environmental protection standards, medical safety standards; the list goes on. I can guarantee you that if the world's governments did not exist, we would still be in a dark age. Hell, without governments we wouldn't have foreign affairs. All the work raising standards of living in third would countries that the United Nations does, and fighting unjust treatment of the worlds people's, would cease to happen.
you do understand that the government isn't made out of a superior race of aliens.
its composed of the same general public you consider to be too imbecilic to do the job, its just that you agree to give one group of people a monopoly on violence.
I'm directly referring to people that complain about all government functions as imbecilic.
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you do understand that the government isn't made out of a superior race of aliens.
its composed of the same general public you consider to be too imbecilic to do the job...
you do understand that the government isn't made out of a superior race of aliens.
its composed of the same general public you consider to be too imbecilic to do the job...
Brain surgeons aren't superior aliens either. They are a bit better at brain surgery than you tho.
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