Topic: Why do people hate islam? - page 65. (Read 221036 times)

I don't think most hate islam per say but your guys' extremest are definitely fucking shit up for your religion.
The Christians are pretty fast to forget about the crusades and I think this is basically the same idea ISIS has going on at the moment.

I don't believe in condemning many for the actions of few, But sadly most human aren't as understanding as I am.

Mindless hate is human nature.. and only through education will be be able to fight this and further ourselves as a species.

Isn't the terrorists who claim to be Muslims, are the Islamic books which are made by a terrorist and mainly supports it...

people hate islam,because some terorist claim that they are muslim. so if terrorist claim that they are cristian/budhist or other religion,people will hate that religion? i dont think it make sense,its a just trick from people hate islam,and they use this way to make islam name on pain.

You are free. You are not forced to believe in Jesus salvation. But, it will be good for you if you do believe.

Get Jesus salvation however you can. The only clear way is through the Bible.

Mate, do you think that I am not accept Christ? Then tell me why I speak about the Holly Spirit or the Light?

The only way if we want to reach to that level of consciousness is by accepting Christ as our savior! Every word who came up from His mouths was about the Light, every word that Apostles preach us was about the Holly Spirit. Sometimes, Paul admitted that even he doesn't understand the words, because it is not he who is talking, but the Holly Spirit.

We are still humans and we are far away of this level on consciousness, but I am sure that there will come a time where we will all be transformed and discover the power of the the Light!

It would be unethical to nuke the entire middle east into glass, but we should still do it, because we can.

Hey, you don't get to pick and choose.  If it says camels, and you are a True Muslim, you must pay in camels.

Spendulus, on geo-specific behavior, Islam demands some compensations to be paid in camels... Would be hard to get them from the zoo around here!   

Another possibility is that Islam does not adapt to changing times, and dies out.  99% of all religions that have ever sprung to life have died.

This is particularly noted around religions which have geographical locations of primary importance.

Islam does this, Christianity does not.

As a layman, I'm pretty well informed, and have not seen this so-called proof. I've seen a lot of bunk science from "young earth creationists". So, gimme links. As always, I'm willing to consider other points of view.

However, what I was getting at, very specifically, is that you used the modern definition of atheist (which I accept) to make an argument and refute it. That argument was predicated on NOT ACKNOWLEDGING that part of that definition is a simple disbelief, not a dogmatic "there is no god". I work from the "the proofs are insufficient for such a bold claim" ideation. One cannot disprove a negative.

I will state, AGAIN, that if there IS an all powerful deity, it doesn't care to be worshipped. This, too, is based on logic. If there is an all powerful deity, and it wishes to be worshipped, there could only possibly be ONE religion. Because if the deity is all powerful, it can EASILY make it's wishes known, and if it wishes to be worshipped, it would do so. The fact that there in existence literally thousands of ideations of "gods" proves beyond any reasonable doubt that they are all false.

This of course does not directly address the question of whether or not there are gods. Because if there are, they are hiding their existence, and have structured the universe in such a way that it CAN BE understood based solely on observed phenomena, and those observed phenomena generally have a less fantastical explanation than "god did it".

The understanding of the physical universe at the times of the writings of the various "holy books" was, to put it politely, dismal. That they got a few things right with almost no rigor is nothing short of amazing, but it does not make the overall paradigm work. Most of it does not. For instance, most "learned" men at the time of the writings of the New Testament still believed the earth to be held up by four pillars on the back of a turtle, and that the stars were holes in something called the "firmament". Better understanding via observation and testing (the beginnings of what has been formalized as the scientific method) proved beyond any doubt that this widely held ideation was just plain wrong. With every advance in scientific knowledge, the "god did it" argument got pushed further into the background until there was only a small amount of gaps. Which the religious seize on like a drowning man will grab a stick.

disbelief is NOT a system of belief. Skepticism, however, is. I am a skeptic. On damn near everything. I hold to Mark Twain's observation that Faith is the belief in what you know ain't so.

When it comes to Christianity, it is so self contradictory within it's own books, leaving alone the sects, that it cannot possibly be inspired by an all powerful deity. Unless, of course, that deity is completely mad. I suppose that's possible, but hardly cause for admiration or worship. You cannot, for instance, simultaneously condemn and command murder. Yet the bible does so, and that's peripheral. The PRIMARY DOCTRINE of christianity is that it's perfectly legit to kill an innocent man to "atone" for the crimes of the guilty. Try that one in a courtroom some day.

Further, within the Christian scriptures it says that churches and places of worship are vain, as god cannot be seen or heard in such places. Rather, and this one isn't a paraphrase, "The Kingdom of God is within you". Yet a very pious group of men who made that connection were hunted down, forced into a mountain retreat, besiged, and killed at Montsegur in 1284 by other very pious men. Both sides were utterly convinced that they were right. This is the sort of crap that strong religious belief breeds. Divisions that need not exist, and in many cases throughout history have led to bloodshed on a massive scale. That Islam is now convulsing in the same way is not surprising. Organized religion, regardless of it's pantheon, is based upon control of the masses. It will fight for that control at ANY cost, conceding only when not doing so would utterly destroy the organization. Christianity reached that point about 150 years ago. If the timeline remains similar, that means Islam has about 550 years before they stop believing it ok to kill for the faith. Given modern communication, I suspect it won't take that long.

Some people have a religion of spirituality. Some people have a religion of materialism. Most people incorporate some spirituality and some materialism into their personal religion. Since we are both spiritual and material beings, there is nothing wrong with incorporating both into our religion. There is danger, however. Wherein? Wrong spiritualism, and wrong materialism.

Sometimes revolution is good. Revolution is NOT good if it is rebellion against the God of the Bible. What is rebellion against God? It is not believing in Jesus salvation as explained in the Bible.

You are free. You are not forced to believe in Jesus salvation. But, it will be good for you if you do believe.

Get Jesus salvation however you can. The only clear way is through the Bible.

I can not stop, because I see that you use the word religion instead of spiritual...

I am sure that if you read the whole Bible, you will see that there isn't such a word like ''religion''. This word is create by us (humans) to define something that we still don't understand it. What is written in the Bible and what is interpreted by the church is very different!

I can not remember now, but will you please give your definition about what is the meaning of the word ''religion'' and what is ''spiritual''? - In your point of view, please!

Isn't it about time that you stop listening to the bad things preachers preach?
No, it is time for a revolution and the only way to start the revolution is to start talk against the preachers, because their the ones who bring this world in to chaos!

Not sure what you are getting at.

Disbelieving something is simply a stronger way to say it that to say believing it is not.

For example, in law, if there is a void judgement, one would not say, "the judgment is void." To say, "the judgment is void" is to at least suggest that there was a judgment. If it is said like, "the void judgment," there is denial that the judgment even existed.

Call it what you will, or attempt to believe or disbelieve what you will, the fact is that there is scientific proof that God exists. Someday, this proof may be overturned. There are reasonable theories that are almost doing it right now by becoming proof. Until they come out of the theory stage, God exists.

In the face of proof, disbelieving is a religion... especially if it is expressed with evermore firmly understood and repeated dogma.

Terrorism?

islam is terroristic religion.

This is the way it was in the 1800s in America.   

Fresh idea. Makes sense.

That's what I vigorously agree with. Teach the kids heavy and complex reading, writing, and arithmetic for 3 hours a day at school. Let the kids, parents, and teachers work together to see if anybody wants to learn more. Let them choose other classes if they want, on a totally voluntary basis, with no additional classes required.

What about history and government and art, etc., that some people think all kids should learn? Teach it in the part of reading that has to do with literature... one hour a day. Some of it can even be taught along with math and writing.

Let the kids start early learning a trade - and getting paid for it - during the rest of their day.

Boarding schools were... "educating".
That term leaves me a bit unrest due to its broad meaning.
Why not teach to read, let kids access all information and let them figure it out?