Why do people think income tax is ok? - page 22.

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Quote from: Lethn on January 10, 2014, 12:10:44 AM

Quote from: Vod on January 09, 2014, 10:24:38 PM

Quote from: 2bfree on January 09, 2014, 10:20:17 PM

The power to tax is the power to destroy. I think income tax and property tax are just wrong. What do you think?

Roads, police, fire services?

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Yes, I do believe it's wrong, the good government achieves all it does through the stealing of other peoples wealth ( which is wrong in itself ) but it is completely outweighed by the amount of atrocities government commits across the world.

I think taxes are great, as long as they're spent on things that benefit the people and not on the war machine and laundering money to corporations. I'd happily even pay more tax for more schools more hospitals, free education and other free services etc. The tax brackets also need to be fair and I don't agree with punishing the rich with ridiculous taxes either.

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Its a sub conscious defense mechanism against the rage and helplessness that they would feel if they comprehended in a visceral way how much of their birthright has been stolen from them. Were it not for the wealth destroyed by government the least skilled workers would probably be making over 100 grand a year. Mcdonalds employees would likely be able to afford to drive lower end ferraries if they worked a lot of hours and sacrificed other lugusuries. Or alternatively if you preferred than you could chose to be poor and scrape by with all the food you need, a decent computer, a 1 room apartment on a 6 hour work week. Or perhaps you could work your butt off and become successful in real career and retire at 27. Once you comprehend just how much has been stolen from you over such a long time period, its hard for the human mind to come to terms with it, so our subconscious shields us from that pain.

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Quote from: Vod on January 09, 2014, 10:24:38 PM

Quote from: 2bfree on January 09, 2014, 10:20:17 PM

The power to tax is the power to destroy. I think income tax and property tax are just wrong. What do you think?

Roads, police, fire services?

Nuclear Bombs, Military Industrial Complex, Secret Police, Surveillance, establishment of dictatorships in other countries

Yes, I do believe it's wrong, the good government achieves all it does through the stealing of other peoples wealth ( which is wrong in itself ) but it is completely outweighed by the amount of atrocities government commits across the world.

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The masses at some level correctly realize that without some intervention wealth progressively concentrates in a few hands at the top of the pyramid/food chain/bankers of the world.
Without some form of redistribution this concentration results in all economic/political power concentrated in a few hands (another type of slavery at least for the average joe).
One could argue we are pretty close to this already. Income tax's are tolerated/supported by the populace because they are seen as needed redistribution.

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Quote from: Vod on January 09, 2014, 10:24:38 PM

Quote from: 2bfree on January 09, 2014, 10:20:17 PM

The power to tax is the power to destroy. I think income tax and property tax are just wrong. What do you think?

Roads, police, fire services?

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Quote from: Vod on January 09, 2014, 10:24:38 PM

Roads, police, fire services?

Do you honestly believe that, in today's world, those things couldn't be built/services be offered without government involvement?

Even if you do feel we need a government to build/provide these things, tax spending not income, and especially not fucking both...

Even if you did need those things those are state issues.... yet the federal part of the government takes the most

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heh we are getting hit with tax on the earning side... and on the spending side. And inbetween (saving side aka inflation) . Then we get hit with taxes on the step after the spending side also known as the ownership side. Government is like an organism... it seeks to eat and devour and grow bigger and clutch at everything it can so that it can survive and get bigger and devour more. Government and freedom are inversely proportional... the more government you have the less freedom you have. Taxes and government are directly proportional so the more taxes you have the more government you have. Therefore the more taxes you have the less freedom you ultimately have.

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I think people can get accustomed to a certain amount of enslavement. Even slaves are somewehat accustomed to their situation. It's only when you go from one situation to a really escalated or different situation that people seem to have problems. They don't realize how offensive an income tax is because they have always had to pay one. They don't question it.

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Quote from: 2bfree on January 09, 2014, 10:20:17 PM

The power to tax is the power to destroy. I think income tax and property tax are just wrong. What do you think?

Roads, police, fire services?

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The power to tax is the power to destroy. I think income tax and property tax are just wrong. What do you think?

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