Why do you believe God exists? - page 11.

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Quote from: CoinCube on December 01, 2018, 05:36:24 PM

Quote from: sirazimuth on December 01, 2018, 05:31:56 PM

Well I didn't even need the sound on but just had to read the 1st few comments to know its a bunch of happy deluded horseshit.
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Ok so you don't think for yourself and let others do that for you.

Got it.

no, I do think for myself, that's why I didn't listen to him...got it?

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Quote from: sirazimuth on December 01, 2018, 05:31:56 PM

Well I didn't even need the sound on but just had to read the 1st few comments to know its a bunch of happy deluded horseshit.
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Ok so you don't think for yourself and let others do that for you.

Got it.

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Quote from: exemplaar on December 01, 2018, 04:55:26 PM

Did you watch any testimony yet? Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zClTUoS6FYE

Well I didn't even need the sound on but just had to read the 1st few comments to know its a bunch of happy deluded horseshit.
hey, I wonder if he thinks the earth is a glass dome covered pancake like certain loonies around here do....

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Quote from: sirazimuth on December 01, 2018, 04:27:37 PM

Dennis Prager eh?...let's see now....
My 1st search and this comes up.
Yeah, he seems legit... LOL

Yes Dennis Prager was initially opposed to President Trump.
He is also on record as admitting that he was wrong to do so.

Dennis Prager: I was Wrong, Trump is a Great President.
https://conservativepost.com/dennis-prager-i-was-wrong-donald-trump-is-a-great-president/

Why exactly do you feel this makes him illegitimate? The man takes a position and when he realizes he has errored corrects himself and publicly acknowledges the mistake.

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Quote from: af_newbie on December 01, 2018, 04:41:40 PM

Babies are born with genetic disorders, open spines, and other birth defects. Subsequently, little babies die. God watches from above.

Were they wicked?

6 million Jews (God's chosen people) died in the WWII, most were slaughtered in the concentration camps run by the Christians ("God mit uns" guys).

Were they wicked?

On Saturday, Nov 1, 1755 (Feast of All Saints Day) at 9:40 am in Lisbone, Portugal, when all city was in church, God decided to send an earthquake and level the city.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1755_Lisbon_earthquake

Were ALL these believers wicked?

Just don't get me started on how wise God is. He is a fucking lunatic to "design" this world. There is no fucking way this universe was designed by anyone with an IQ higher than 0. The whole thing is trial and error. All done by itself with lots of time.

We can not blame every death on God.

According to Christianity, evil brought death and suffering into this world. In their theology, all the death and suffering that we see in the modern world is not because of God, it is because of evil.

We only see one side of the coin:

The side of the coin we can observe: Life on this earth
The other side of the coin that is invisible: Life beyond this earth (before birth, after death etc)

Are we to judge God based on seeing one side of the whole picture?

We are like blind men trying to find out what an elephant looks like.

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Quote from: af_newbie on December 01, 2018, 02:18:03 PM

God of the Bible is a psychopath who recommends genocide, murder, rape, slavery etc.

It is no surprise he would welcome other psychopaths in heaven.

God killed a lot more than 10,000 innocent people in the time it took me to write posts in this thread.

No, wrong.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1%3A31&version=KJV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+1%3A5&version=KJV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+1%3A13&version=KJV

Did you watch any testimony yet? Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zClTUoS6FYE

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Quote from: CoinCube on December 01, 2018, 03:11:34 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on December 01, 2018, 02:18:03 PM

God of the Bible is a psychopath who recommends genocide, murder, rape, slavery etc.

It is no surprise he would welcome other psychopaths in heaven.

God killed a lot more than 10,000 innocent people in the time it took me to write posts in this thread.

Your understanding of the Bible is deeply flawed.

I recommend the following book should you desire to understand the Bible whose verses trigger you so. Or continue in ignorance at your discretion.

https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Bible-Exodus-Dennis-Prager/dp/1621577724

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A national bestseller!

Why do so many people think the Bible, the most influential book in world history, is outdated? Why do our friends and neighbors – and sometimes we ourselves – dismiss the Bible as irrelevant, irrational, immoral, or all of these things? This explanation of the Book of Exodus, the second book of the Bible, will demonstrate that the Bible is not only powerfully relevant to today’s issues, but completely consistent with rational thought.

Do you think the Bible permitted the trans-Atlantic slave trade? You won’t after reading this book.

Do you struggle to love your parents? If you do, you need this book.

Do you doubt the existence of God because belief in God is “irrational?” This book will give you reason after reason to rethink your doubts.

The title of this commentary is, “The Rational Bible” because its approach is entirely reason-based. The reader is never asked to accept anything on faith alone. As Prager says, “If something I write does not make rational sense, I have not done my job.”

The Rational Bible is the fruit of Dennis Prager’s forty years of teaching the Bible to people of every faith, and no faith. On virtually every page, you will discover how the text relates to the contemporary world and to your life.

His goal: to change your mind – and then change your life.

Can you please stop your narcissistic nonsense? Leviticus 20:13,...

The laws provided by GOD in the Bible are illegal in today's world. So you cannot follow it even if you want to.

Do you really want me to give you the fucking verses again, for the 100th time? Slavery, genocide, killing and more killing. People who wrote this shit were so primitive that it just blows my mind.

If people followed the Bible we would be literally having blood running in the streets.

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Quote from: ATMD on December 01, 2018, 02:54:46 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on December 01, 2018, 02:18:03 PM

God of the Bible is a psychopath who recommends genocide, murder, rape, slavery etc.

It is no surprise he would welcome other psychopaths in heaven.

God killed a lot more than 10,000 innocent people in the time it took me to write posts in this thread.

From my limited understanding of Christianity, God killed the wicked people. We don't have much information to claim these people were "innocent", for all we know, they were murderers and rapists themselves.

We are looking at information and judging it from one side of the coin.

Babies are born with genetic disorders, open spines, and other birth defects. Subsequently, little babies die. God watches from above.

Were they wicked?

6 million Jews (God's chosen people) died in the WWII, most were slaughtered in the concentration camps run by the Christians ("God mit uns" guys).

Were they wicked?

On Saturday, Nov 1, 1755 (Feast of All Saints Day) at 9:40 am in Lisbone, Portugal, when all city was in church, God decided to send an earthquake and level the city.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1755_Lisbon_earthquake

Were ALL these believers wicked?

Just don't get me started on how wise God is. He is a fucking lunatic to "design" this world. There is no fucking way this universe was designed by anyone with an IQ higher than 0. The whole thing is trial and error. All done by itself with lots of time.

sirazimuth

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Dennis Prager eh?...let's see now....
My 1st search and this comes up.
Yeah, he seems legit... LOL

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Quote from: af_newbie on December 01, 2018, 02:18:03 PM

God of the Bible is a psychopath who recommends genocide, murder, rape, slavery etc.

It is no surprise he would welcome other psychopaths in heaven.

God killed a lot more than 10,000 innocent people in the time it took me to write posts in this thread.

Your understanding of the Bible is deeply flawed.

I recommend the following book should you desire to understand the Bible whose verses trigger you so. Or continue in ignorance at your discretion.

https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Bible-Exodus-Dennis-Prager/dp/1621577724

Quote

A national bestseller!

Why do so many people think the Bible, the most influential book in world history, is outdated? Why do our friends and neighbors – and sometimes we ourselves – dismiss the Bible as irrelevant, irrational, immoral, or all of these things? This explanation of the Book of Exodus, the second book of the Bible, will demonstrate that the Bible is not only powerfully relevant to today’s issues, but completely consistent with rational thought.

Do you think the Bible permitted the trans-Atlantic slave trade? You won’t after reading this book.

Do you struggle to love your parents? If you do, you need this book.

Do you doubt the existence of God because belief in God is “irrational?” This book will give you reason after reason to rethink your doubts.

The title of this commentary is, “The Rational Bible” because its approach is entirely reason-based. The reader is never asked to accept anything on faith alone. As Prager says, “If something I write does not make rational sense, I have not done my job.”

The Rational Bible is the fruit of Dennis Prager’s forty years of teaching the Bible to people of every faith, and no faith. On virtually every page, you will discover how the text relates to the contemporary world and to your life.

His goal: to change your mind – and then change your life.

ATMD

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Quote from: af_newbie on December 01, 2018, 02:18:03 PM

God of the Bible is a psychopath who recommends genocide, murder, rape, slavery etc.

It is no surprise he would welcome other psychopaths in heaven.

God killed a lot more than 10,000 innocent people in the time it took me to write posts in this thread.

From my limited understanding of Christianity, God killed the wicked people. We don't have much information to claim these people were "innocent", for all we know, they were murderers and rapists themselves.

We are looking at information and judging it from one side of the coin.

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Quote from: Astargath on December 01, 2018, 01:33:59 PM

Quote from: BADecker on December 01, 2018, 10:57:56 AM

Quote from: Astargath on December 01, 2018, 10:35:18 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 01, 2018, 10:10:33 AM

Never shooting someone to death is never something that keeps a person out of Hell. Shooting a person to death is never something that sends a person to Hell.

There is only one thing that keeps a person out of Hell. Lacking that one thing is the only reason why people go to Hell. What is that one thing? It is believing in Jesus salvation.

Shooting someone, or voluntary sinning in other ways, are all things that wear on Jesus salvation faith. Enough voluntary sinning by a person of faith, may destroy that faith in him. But it is the faith in Jesus salvation, or lack of it, that determines a person's Heaven/Hell final position.

Cool

Well then god is an absolute idiot. How can your brain actually write that and be ok with it? I can kill as many people as I want as long as I accept jesus salvation? Of course I would accept jesus salvation, knowing I'm going to hell if not or jail, why would a murderer not repent? It seems his best choice. God is an idiot.

Seems like you can't read very well. Voluntarily doing evil wears on Jesus salvation faith. In other words, if you truly understand and have Jesus salvation faith, you will stop sinning. At least you will reduce your voluntary sinning to an absolute minimum. In other words, voluntary sinning and Jesus salvation faith are mutually exclusive... after a time.

So, we see again, that you are attempting to cast doubt into the hearts of those who are saved. Why do you do this? You are simply a child of the devil. No animosity against you. Simply pointing out a fact. But you can change if you want...

Cool

Bible clearly states that anyone can repent, therefore someone who killed 10.000 people can still go to heaven, taking away the freedom of 10.000 people means nothing to god as long as you repent, which is insane.

God of the Bible is a psychopath who recommends genocide, murder, rape, slavery etc.

It is no surprise he would welcome other psychopaths in heaven.

God killed a lot more than 10,000 innocent people in the time it took me to write posts in this thread.

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Quote from: BADecker on December 01, 2018, 10:57:56 AM

Quote from: Astargath on December 01, 2018, 10:35:18 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 01, 2018, 10:10:33 AM

Never shooting someone to death is never something that keeps a person out of Hell. Shooting a person to death is never something that sends a person to Hell.

There is only one thing that keeps a person out of Hell. Lacking that one thing is the only reason why people go to Hell. What is that one thing? It is believing in Jesus salvation.

Shooting someone, or voluntary sinning in other ways, are all things that wear on Jesus salvation faith. Enough voluntary sinning by a person of faith, may destroy that faith in him. But it is the faith in Jesus salvation, or lack of it, that determines a person's Heaven/Hell final position.

Cool

Well then god is an absolute idiot. How can your brain actually write that and be ok with it? I can kill as many people as I want as long as I accept jesus salvation? Of course I would accept jesus salvation, knowing I'm going to hell if not or jail, why would a murderer not repent? It seems his best choice. God is an idiot.

Seems like you can't read very well. Voluntarily doing evil wears on Jesus salvation faith. In other words, if you truly understand and have Jesus salvation faith, you will stop sinning. At least you will reduce your voluntary sinning to an absolute minimum. In other words, voluntary sinning and Jesus salvation faith are mutually exclusive... after a time.

So, we see again, that you are attempting to cast doubt into the hearts of those who are saved. Why do you do this? You are simply a child of the devil. No animosity against you. Simply pointing out a fact. But you can change if you want...

Cool

Bible clearly states that anyone can repent, therefore someone who killed 10.000 people can still go to heaven, taking away the freedom of 10.000 people means nothing to god as long as you repent, which is insane.

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Lol at the level of joking in this thread, we are turning into a comedy club

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Quote from: af_newbie on December 01, 2018, 11:04:35 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 01, 2018, 10:57:56 AM

Quote from: Astargath on December 01, 2018, 10:35:18 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 01, 2018, 10:10:33 AM

Never shooting someone to death is never something that keeps a person out of Hell. Shooting a person to death is never something that sends a person to Hell.

There is only one thing that keeps a person out of Hell. Lacking that one thing is the only reason why people go to Hell. What is that one thing? It is believing in Jesus salvation.

Shooting someone, or voluntary sinning in other ways, are all things that wear on Jesus salvation faith. Enough voluntary sinning by a person of faith, may destroy that faith in him. But it is the faith in Jesus salvation, or lack of it, that determines a person's Heaven/Hell final position.

Cool

Well then god is an absolute idiot. How can your brain actually write that and be ok with it? I can kill as many people as I want as long as I accept jesus salvation? Of course I would accept jesus salvation, knowing I'm going to hell if not or jail, why would a murderer not repent? It seems his best choice. God is an idiot.

Seems like you can't read very well. Voluntarily doing evil wears on Jesus salvation faith. In other words, if you truly understand and have Jesus salvation faith, you will stop sinning. At least you will reduce your voluntary sinning to an absolute minimum. In other words, voluntary sinning and Jesus salvation faith are mutually exclusive... after a time.

So, we see again, that you are attempting to cast doubt into the hearts of those who are saved. Why do you do this? You are simply a child of the devil. No animosity against you. Simply pointing out a fact. But you can change if you want...

Cool

I think you will be wearing down your psychiatrist one day. You are truly crazy, no ifs no buts. You have lost your mind.

Stay as calm as you are. I mean, you can't even explain to yourself what you are talking about. Remaining calm might help to keep you out of the insane asylums... or are you posting from there?

Cool

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Quote from: af_newbie on November 29, 2018, 12:16:46 PM

Quote from: BADecker on November 29, 2018, 12:06:12 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on November 29, 2018, 10:53:18 AM

Ok, I am going to try one more time, since you are slightly retarded.

PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT YOUR GOD LOOKS LIKE!

Nobody has ever seen God.

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Yet, someone wrote many books about him/her.

Why don't you believe in Snow White or Santa Claus?

At least with these two characters we know what they look like (or suppose to look like).

With your God, you don't even know what he/she looks like, you have no evidence they exist, yet you believe they exist.

This is beyond being delusional.

People who believe in God, also have many false beliefs at times. The idea was seeing God with the eyes. Many people have "seen" (understood) God in their minds and hearts. Too bad you have such weak understanding.

Actually, Santa and Snow White have many different appearances. Which one is right?

How in the words dense are you?

Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on December 01, 2018, 10:57:56 AM

Quote from: Astargath on December 01, 2018, 10:35:18 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 01, 2018, 10:10:33 AM

Never shooting someone to death is never something that keeps a person out of Hell. Shooting a person to death is never something that sends a person to Hell.

There is only one thing that keeps a person out of Hell. Lacking that one thing is the only reason why people go to Hell. What is that one thing? It is believing in Jesus salvation.

Shooting someone, or voluntary sinning in other ways, are all things that wear on Jesus salvation faith. Enough voluntary sinning by a person of faith, may destroy that faith in him. But it is the faith in Jesus salvation, or lack of it, that determines a person's Heaven/Hell final position.

Cool

Well then god is an absolute idiot. How can your brain actually write that and be ok with it? I can kill as many people as I want as long as I accept jesus salvation? Of course I would accept jesus salvation, knowing I'm going to hell if not or jail, why would a murderer not repent? It seems his best choice. God is an idiot.

Seems like you can't read very well. Voluntarily doing evil wears on Jesus salvation faith. In other words, if you truly understand and have Jesus salvation faith, you will stop sinning. At least you will reduce your voluntary sinning to an absolute minimum. In other words, voluntary sinning and Jesus salvation faith are mutually exclusive... after a time.

So, we see again, that you are attempting to cast doubt into the hearts of those who are saved. Why do you do this? You are simply a child of the devil. No animosity against you. Simply pointing out a fact. But you can change if you want...

Cool

I think you will be wearing down your psychiatrist one day. You are truly crazy, no ifs no buts. You have lost your mind.

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Quote from: Astargath on December 01, 2018, 10:35:18 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 01, 2018, 10:10:33 AM

Never shooting someone to death is never something that keeps a person out of Hell. Shooting a person to death is never something that sends a person to Hell.

There is only one thing that keeps a person out of Hell. Lacking that one thing is the only reason why people go to Hell. What is that one thing? It is believing in Jesus salvation.

Shooting someone, or voluntary sinning in other ways, are all things that wear on Jesus salvation faith. Enough voluntary sinning by a person of faith, may destroy that faith in him. But it is the faith in Jesus salvation, or lack of it, that determines a person's Heaven/Hell final position.

Cool

Well then god is an absolute idiot. How can your brain actually write that and be ok with it? I can kill as many people as I want as long as I accept jesus salvation? Of course I would accept jesus salvation, knowing I'm going to hell if not or jail, why would a murderer not repent? It seems his best choice. God is an idiot.

Seems like you can't read very well. Voluntarily doing evil wears on Jesus salvation faith. In other words, if you truly understand and have Jesus salvation faith, you will stop sinning. At least you will reduce your voluntary sinning to an absolute minimum. In other words, voluntary sinning and Jesus salvation faith are mutually exclusive... after a time.

So, we see again, that you are attempting to cast doubt into the hearts of those who are saved. Why do you do this? You are simply a child of the devil. No animosity against you. Simply pointing out a fact. But you can change if you want...

Cool

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Quote from: Astargath on December 01, 2018, 10:42:17 AM

Quote from: ATMD on December 01, 2018, 10:40:50 AM

Quote from: Astargath on December 01, 2018, 10:35:18 AM

Well then god is an absolute idiot. How can your brain actually write that and be ok with it? I can kill as many people as I want as long as I accept jesus salvation? Of course I would accept jesus salvation, knowing I'm going to hell if not or jail, why would a murderer not repent? It seems his best choice. God is an idiot.

He was being sarcastic.

You are new here, he was not sarcastic. I can guarantee you that.

Hahaha, maybe you are right. I can't know for sure.

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Quote from: ATMD on December 01, 2018, 10:40:50 AM

Quote from: Astargath on December 01, 2018, 10:35:18 AM

Well then god is an absolute idiot. How can your brain actually write that and be ok with it? I can kill as many people as I want as long as I accept jesus salvation? Of course I would accept jesus salvation, knowing I'm going to hell if not or jail, why would a murderer not repent? It seems his best choice. God is an idiot.

He was being sarcastic.

You are new here, he was not sarcastic. I can guarantee you that.

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