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December 05, 2018, 10:14:45 AM
How can a baby act dead? Didn't you see the many eye witnesses in there? Didn't you see her eyes open and rolled up? Are you assuming they drugged the baby? What's your point? You need help man.
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December 05, 2018, 09:51:13 AM
How have you diagnosed that she was dead? Rofl, you are way worse than badecker, believing some stupid video from typical scammers. Not even badecker believes those.
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December 05, 2018, 09:01:30 AM
Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others,  as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.

Now even if I believed your story, which could have happened, how do you explain all the other thousands of stories similar but from other gods, muslims, hindus, they all claim the same things but with their gods. They all claim their gods did the miracles, etc etc.

No god has done what the God of the bible has. After watching the videos, I can show you not only historical proof, but geological proof of the veracity of the Bible. If you examine the dietary restrictions of the bible you will see that God is the root of all science, you will notice the logic behind the dietary restrictions. The body type of each animal (digestive system) and the type of food they eat based on a few characteristics of their bodies like scales or if cloven-hoofed. Nobody could have made this up. There's a creator that knows his creation very well.

Well, an all powerful god could have created our bodies in such a way that we can eat anything or perhaps only make things that are healthy for us to eat, just saying mate.
You didn't even take a second to analize what I just told you, Im starting to think you are just interested in diverging. God wants obedience, that could've been a reason why he didn't make all food healthy as you state. That's why there's so much suffering in the world, that's why there's death, that's why there is injustice in this world, because of disobedience, people don't want to follow God's commands and have become egotistical and rebel against him. As promised: (y o utube . co m/watch?v=vx-hiGaZ4xc), (y o utube . co m/watch?v=iuKG7Ivp-00), (y o utube . c om/watch?v=-akrjZ-1PMk), remove spaces.

An all powerful, all knowing and all loving god doesn't want anything, you can't even grasp the concept of a god like that, someone that knows everything and can do anything wants nothing.

Please tell me that's not your proof, do you actually believe that because of those shitty ass videos? Am I being trolled here?
I guess I was totally wrong, you are just another fanatic. You believe you know it all, that you have a superior mind and that even God has to be what you conceive in your mind he should be like. You are not interested in finding truth, you prefer basing your beliefs on your own opinion and thoughts. I guess there must be all kinds of people so the world can be the world. It's written "They have eyes and can't see, ears and can't hear." You see a little baby come back to life after been dead for one night, you see a person waking up and speaking a total different language without having any knowledge of it, and that doesn't even get you to wonder if you could be wrong. There are millions of cases, but no matter what you see you will never believe. God doesn't need us as you may know and like I said in the beginning, you are now free to believe what you want.

Cell death is an irreversible process because the damage is irreversible.

The baby was not dead.

Dying is a process.  Your brain takes the longest to die, about 2 hours for the last cells to die.  All other cells in your body die much sooner.

Biochemical reactions in your cells need oxygen.  Without them, your cells cannot function and slowly die.

PS. It is science, bitch.  Swallow it.
af_newbie you don't know what you are talking about, how have you diagnosed that? And how is it possible she came back after prayer? I've talked to you before and you don't like to do any reasoning but always to be contrary, so I'm not gonna try to convince you of anything.
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December 05, 2018, 08:50:46 AM
Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others,  as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.

Now even if I believed your story, which could have happened, how do you explain all the other thousands of stories similar but from other gods, muslims, hindus, they all claim the same things but with their gods. They all claim their gods did the miracles, etc etc.

No god has done what the God of the bible has. After watching the videos, I can show you not only historical proof, but geological proof of the veracity of the Bible. If you examine the dietary restrictions of the bible you will see that God is the root of all science, you will notice the logic behind the dietary restrictions. The body type of each animal (digestive system) and the type of food they eat based on a few characteristics of their bodies like scales or if cloven-hoofed. Nobody could have made this up. There's a creator that knows his creation very well.

Well, an all powerful god could have created our bodies in such a way that we can eat anything or perhaps only make things that are healthy for us to eat, just saying mate.
You didn't even take a second to analize what I just told you, Im starting to think you are just interested in diverging. God wants obedience, that could've been a reason why he didn't make all food healthy as you state. That's why there's so much suffering in the world, that's why there's death, that's why there is injustice in this world, because of disobedience, people don't want to follow God's commands and have become egotistical and rebel against him. As promised: (y o utube . co m/watch?v=vx-hiGaZ4xc), (y o utube . co m/watch?v=iuKG7Ivp-00), (y o utube . c om/watch?v=-akrjZ-1PMk), remove spaces.

An all powerful, all knowing and all loving god doesn't want anything, you can't even grasp the concept of a god like that, someone that knows everything and can do anything wants nothing.

Please tell me that's not your proof, do you actually believe that because of those shitty ass videos? Am I being trolled here?
I guess I was totally wrong, you are just another fanatic. You believe you know it all, that you have a superior mind and that even God has to be what you conceive in your mind he should be like. You are not interested in finding truth, you prefer basing your beliefs on your own opinion and thoughts. I guess there must be all kinds of people so the world can be the world. It's written "They have eyes and can't see, ears and can't hear." You see a little baby come back to life after been dead for one night, you see a person waking up and speaking a total different language without having any knowledge of it, and that doesn't even get you to wonder if you could be wrong. There are millions of cases, but no matter what you see you will never believe. God doesn't need us as you may know and like I said in the beginning, you are now free to believe what you want.

Have you ever searched for aliens on youtube, what about illuminati, flat earth? What about other miracles performed by other gods, if that's all it takes for you, a simple goddamn video to believe in such an extraordinary claim, then you are a fool that lacks critical thinking.
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December 05, 2018, 07:39:55 AM
Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others,  as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.

Now even if I believed your story, which could have happened, how do you explain all the other thousands of stories similar but from other gods, muslims, hindus, they all claim the same things but with their gods. They all claim their gods did the miracles, etc etc.

No god has done what the God of the bible has. After watching the videos, I can show you not only historical proof, but geological proof of the veracity of the Bible. If you examine the dietary restrictions of the bible you will see that God is the root of all science, you will notice the logic behind the dietary restrictions. The body type of each animal (digestive system) and the type of food they eat based on a few characteristics of their bodies like scales or if cloven-hoofed. Nobody could have made this up. There's a creator that knows his creation very well.

Well, an all powerful god could have created our bodies in such a way that we can eat anything or perhaps only make things that are healthy for us to eat, just saying mate.
You didn't even take a second to analize what I just told you, Im starting to think you are just interested in diverging. God wants obedience, that could've been a reason why he didn't make all food healthy as you state. That's why there's so much suffering in the world, that's why there's death, that's why there is injustice in this world, because of disobedience, people don't want to follow God's commands and have become egotistical and rebel against him. As promised: (y o utube . co m/watch?v=vx-hiGaZ4xc), (y o utube . co m/watch?v=iuKG7Ivp-00), (y o utube . c om/watch?v=-akrjZ-1PMk), remove spaces.

An all powerful, all knowing and all loving god doesn't want anything, you can't even grasp the concept of a god like that, someone that knows everything and can do anything wants nothing.

Please tell me that's not your proof, do you actually believe that because of those shitty ass videos? Am I being trolled here?
I guess I was totally wrong, you are just another fanatic. You believe you know it all, that you have a superior mind and that even God has to be what you conceive in your mind he should be like. You are not interested in finding truth, you prefer basing your beliefs on your own opinion and thoughts. I guess there must be all kinds of people so the world can be the world. It's written "They have eyes and can't see, ears and can't hear." You see a little baby come back to life after been dead for one night, you see a person waking up and speaking a total different language without having any knowledge of it, and that doesn't even get you to wonder if you could be wrong. There are millions of cases, but no matter what you see you will never believe. God doesn't need us as you may know and like I said in the beginning, you are now free to believe what you want.
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December 05, 2018, 04:36:21 AM
Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others,  as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.

Now even if I believed your story, which could have happened, how do you explain all the other thousands of stories similar but from other gods, muslims, hindus, they all claim the same things but with their gods. They all claim their gods did the miracles, etc etc.

No god has done what the God of the bible has. After watching the videos, I can show you not only historical proof, but geological proof of the veracity of the Bible. If you examine the dietary restrictions of the bible you will see that God is the root of all science, you will notice the logic behind the dietary restrictions. The body type of each animal (digestive system) and the type of food they eat based on a few characteristics of their bodies like scales or if cloven-hoofed. Nobody could have made this up. There's a creator that knows his creation very well.

Well, an all powerful god could have created our bodies in such a way that we can eat anything or perhaps only make things that are healthy for us to eat, just saying mate.
You didn't even take a second to analize what I just told you, Im starting to think you are just interested in diverging. God wants obedience, that could've been a reason why he didn't make all food healthy as you state. That's why there's so much suffering in the world, that's why there's death, that's why there is injustice in this world, because of disobedience, people don't want to follow God's commands and have become egotistical and rebel against him. As promised: (y o utube . co m/watch?v=vx-hiGaZ4xc), (y o utube . co m/watch?v=iuKG7Ivp-00), (y o utube . c om/watch?v=-akrjZ-1PMk), remove spaces.

An all powerful, all knowing and all loving god doesn't want anything, you can't even grasp the concept of a god like that, someone that knows everything and can do anything wants nothing.

Please tell me that's not your proof, do you actually believe that because of those shitty ass videos? Am I being trolled here?
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December 04, 2018, 10:40:29 PM
If you really want to know that GOD exists, go to an exorcism, I can't prove you that GOD exists but I can prove you that Lucifer exits and if there is a devil it must exist  a GOD
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December 04, 2018, 06:30:46 PM
Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others,  as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.

Now even if I believed your story, which could have happened, how do you explain all the other thousands of stories similar but from other gods, muslims, hindus, they all claim the same things but with their gods. They all claim their gods did the miracles, etc etc.

No god has done what the God of the bible has. After watching the videos, I can show you not only historical proof, but geological proof of the veracity of the Bible. If you examine the dietary restrictions of the bible you will see that God is the root of all science, you will notice the logic behind the dietary restrictions. The body type of each animal (digestive system) and the type of food they eat based on a few characteristics of their bodies like scales or if cloven-hoofed. Nobody could have made this up. There's a creator that knows his creation very well.

Well, an all powerful god could have created our bodies in such a way that we can eat anything or perhaps only make things that are healthy for us to eat, just saying mate.
You didn't even take a second to analize what I just told you, Im starting to think you are just interested in diverging. God wants obedience, that could've been a reason why he didn't make all food healthy as you state. That's why there's so much suffering in the world, that's why there's death, that's why there is injustice in this world, because of disobedience, people don't want to follow God's commands and have become egotistical and rebel against him. As promised: (y o utube . co m/watch?v=vx-hiGaZ4xc), (y o utube . co m/watch?v=iuKG7Ivp-00), (y o utube . c om/watch?v=-akrjZ-1PMk), remove spaces.
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December 04, 2018, 03:56:28 PM
Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others,  as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.

Now even if I believed your story, which could have happened, how do you explain all the other thousands of stories similar but from other gods, muslims, hindus, they all claim the same things but with their gods. They all claim their gods did the miracles, etc etc.

No god has done what the God of the bible has. After watching the videos, I can show you not only historical proof, but geological proof of the veracity of the Bible. If you examine the dietary restrictions of the bible you will see that God is the root of all science, you will notice the logic behind the dietary restrictions. The body type of each animal (digestive system) and the type of food they eat based on a few characteristics of their bodies like scales or if cloven-hoofed. Nobody could have made this up. There's a creator that knows his creation very well.

Well, an all powerful god could have created our bodies in such a way that we can eat anything or perhaps only make things that are healthy for us to eat, just saying mate.

Being the All Powerful God, He could have done things in a variety of ways. Since He is all powerful in His ability to think, He did it the best way... certainly not in the weak-thinking ways that you suggest.

Cool

But can you prove it? How do we know if that's the best way of doing it. It certainly seems way better the way I said it.
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December 04, 2018, 03:32:35 PM
Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others,  as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.

Now even if I believed your story, which could have happened, how do you explain all the other thousands of stories similar but from other gods, muslims, hindus, they all claim the same things but with their gods. They all claim their gods did the miracles, etc etc.

No god has done what the God of the bible has. After watching the videos, I can show you not only historical proof, but geological proof of the veracity of the Bible. If you examine the dietary restrictions of the bible you will see that God is the root of all science, you will notice the logic behind the dietary restrictions. The body type of each animal (digestive system) and the type of food they eat based on a few characteristics of their bodies like scales or if cloven-hoofed. Nobody could have made this up. There's a creator that knows his creation very well.

Well, an all powerful god could have created our bodies in such a way that we can eat anything or perhaps only make things that are healthy for us to eat, just saying mate.

Being the All Powerful God, He could have done things in a variety of ways. Since He is all powerful in His ability to think, He did it the best way... certainly not in the weak-thinking ways that you suggest.

Cool
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December 04, 2018, 02:44:32 PM
Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others,  as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.

Now even if I believed your story, which could have happened, how do you explain all the other thousands of stories similar but from other gods, muslims, hindus, they all claim the same things but with their gods. They all claim their gods did the miracles, etc etc.

No god has done what the God of the bible has. After watching the videos, I can show you not only historical proof, but geological proof of the veracity of the Bible. If you examine the dietary restrictions of the bible you will see that God is the root of all science, you will notice the logic behind the dietary restrictions. The body type of each animal (digestive system) and the type of food they eat based on a few characteristics of their bodies like scales or if cloven-hoofed. Nobody could have made this up. There's a creator that knows his creation very well.

Well, an all powerful god could have created our bodies in such a way that we can eat anything or perhaps only make things that are healthy for us to eat, just saying mate.
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December 04, 2018, 12:20:15 PM
Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others,  as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.

Now even if I believed your story, which could have happened, how do you explain all the other thousands of stories similar but from other gods, muslims, hindus, they all claim the same things but with their gods. They all claim their gods did the miracles, etc etc.

No god has done what the God of the bible has. After watching the videos, I can show you not only historical proof, but geological proof of the veracity of the Bible. If you examine the dietary restrictions of the bible you will see that God is the root of all science, you will notice the logic behind the dietary restrictions. The body type of each animal (digestive system) and the type of food they eat based on a few characteristics of their bodies like scales or if cloven-hoofed. Nobody could have made this up. There's a creator that knows his creation very well.
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December 04, 2018, 12:12:13 PM
Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others,  as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.

Now even if I believed your story, which could have happened, how do you explain all the other thousands of stories similar but from other gods, muslims, hindus, they all claim the same things but with their gods. They all claim their gods did the miracles, etc etc.
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December 04, 2018, 12:07:27 PM
Im just following up DorisHank's post, I have to admit you are different than most atheists, there are some guys out there who don't accept truth even when they see it with their own eyes. No fanaticism from your side though. That should be the point of a discussion. I will post some links when I get home so you can view them (I'm at work right now and can't use youtube). Just a little anecdote of something that happened to my family: In the country I live there's a lot of crime, my father's vehicle broke down in the middle of a place surrounded by ghettos, the belt of the engine of the minivan broke, and the vehicle couldn't start, there was a gang of criminals who were there watching and went to attack my father to rob him (my father was there with some relatives, all of them women, just a male child, they were coming from a trip), they all approached him one of the gang members was holding my father from the back and another attempted to stab him on the chest since he refused to be robbed and an angel appeared and protected my father from been stabbed, making the guy drop the knife, he deceived the criminals acting like he had a gun and they ran away, as they ran away one of the criminals found out he actually didn't have a gun with him and warned the others,  as they were approaching again he got on the minivan with my aunts and the vehicle started and ran at least 2 kms from there "without belt on the engine". I'm not asking you to believe in this anecdote since these are just my words. I'm not trying to induce you to believe in something you don't, I will just show you some evidence and it will be your responsibility from there on believing or not. I will post a link as well of a Russian girl who woke up one day and was praising God in perfect English, you will see with your own eyes the impossible, this is all documented.
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December 04, 2018, 11:21:53 AM
I have never seen it, you are right on that, I have seen people resurrecting after being dead which is even more impressive, people recovering sight after being blind their whole life. You are just trying to escape the fact you can't disprove these arguments, you can't prove with science how this can happen if there's no God. There's no evolution that can do this, there's no medicine that can do this. You can't explain how the inexplicable can happen.

I'm sorry what arguments? You claim to have seen people resurrecting after being dead, can you prove that? The point is simple, if god really does all those miracles then how come no one has ever grown back a limb?

You can continue to mention the miracles that haven't still happened, that's not a valid argument to say it's not possible though. You asked for proof of people resurrecting, right? Well if I show you the proof will you publicly acknowledge you are wrong about the existence of God and that God actually exists?

Do you have 20 different accounts, who am I talking to here.

Yes it is a valid argument, pretty logical one as well. Yes you have to prove that someone resurrected after being dead and then prove it was because of god. Go ahead.
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December 04, 2018, 10:16:30 AM
I have never seen it, you are right on that, I have seen people resurrecting after being dead which is even more impressive, people recovering sight after being blind their whole life. You are just trying to escape the fact you can't disprove these arguments, you can't prove with science how this can happen if there's no God. There's no evolution that can do this, there's no medicine that can do this. You can't explain how the inexplicable can happen.

I'm sorry what arguments? You claim to have seen people resurrecting after being dead, can you prove that? The point is simple, if god really does all those miracles then how come no one has ever grown back a limb?

You can continue to mention the miracles that haven't still happened, that's not a valid argument to say it's not possible though. You asked for proof of people resurrecting, right? Well if I show you the proof will you publicly acknowledge you are wrong about the existence of God and that God actually exists?
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December 04, 2018, 07:39:15 AM
I have never seen it, you are right on that, I have seen people resurrecting after being dead which is even more impressive, people recovering sight after being blind their whole life. You are just trying to escape the fact you can't disprove these arguments, you can't prove with science how this can happen if there's no God. There's no evolution that can do this, there's no medicine that can do this. You can't explain how the inexplicable can happen.

I'm sorry what arguments? You claim to have seen people resurrecting after being dead, can you prove that? The point is simple, if god really does all those miracles then how come no one has ever grown back a limb?
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December 04, 2018, 07:34:38 AM
The world could not just happen by chance. A supreme being must have necessitated the existence of the universe and that supreme being can be nothing but God

"nothing but God"?

Describe God for me.

His name describes him. The Great I am. (Self existent) If think of describing how we came to exist you will get to the point of who created who or what, or how "x" thing was created, if you take the science approach "The world was formed from the explosion of a bunch of gasses and so on", so my question is: How did those gasses form? From what?

Do you understand English?  Please describe God, in your own words.
You're funny, I just gave you a hint, as stated above you need to read the Bible to understand since you may misunderstand my words with a short description. But... I can give you a hand with that though. He is loving, merciful, just, firm and drastic when He has to.  

Ok, I am going to try one more time, since you are slightly retarded.

PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT YOUR GOD LOOKS LIKE!


Man why are you insulting? I'm not insulting you even though you haven't learned to read at your age, your question should have been how do you physically describe God? Then the answer to that question would be: No man has seen God, I'm talking about the God of the Bible BTW. If your point is if you haven't seen it why do you believe in him; my next question for you will be: Can you please describe helium or air?

Yes we can describe Hellium, we can measure it, test/experiment with it. We can't do that with god because... well, let me give you a hint, it's imaginary, like Harry potter, spiderman or Zeus.

The same thing happens with God, you can't see him, however you can perceive his existence, and also test it (we christians don't put God to the test because it is sin). However haven't you seen people with cancer getting cured after a prayer? Cancer is not present in any tests? I can show you a video of a christian inside of his car in flames, the car resulting completely burned also the interior and him getting removed from the vehicle without a single burn and the bible intact, without a single page burned. What else do you want to prove his existence.

How about people with cancer who died despite the fact that their whole congregation prayed for them?

How about people with cancer who got cured without any praying?

You want to test if the Bible or Christians burn in cars?  Just sit in the car with your Bible on your lap, pour gasoline on you and set yourself on fire, oh, yeah, I forgot, pray as much as you want.  You and your bible will burn.  You don't believe me?  Try it.  I dare you.

What you are describing is impossible, I have never seen anyone get cured from cancer minutes after been diagnosed without a prayer. You didn't even asked me to show you the video which proves you are not interested in seeing the truth but in finding a point of discussion. We cannot put the Lord our God to the test.

How many people have you seen growing back a limb after losing one, despite praying? Yeah, check mate.

I have never seen it, you are right on that, I have seen people resurrecting after being dead which is even more impressive, people recovering sight after being blind their whole life. You are just trying to escape the fact you can't disprove these arguments, you can't prove with science how this can happen if there's no God. There's no evolution that can do this, there's no medicine that can do this. You can't explain how the inexplicable can happen.
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December 03, 2018, 07:55:07 PM
I believe that God exists.
and I cannot explain how I can believe that God exists? because everything about God is beyond my mind,
if I can explain about God, I will not believe anymore if God exists.
so the point is, humans cannot logic about God because of the power of God beyond human reason

Well, thanx for enlightening me there, bud.
I just got schooled in logic...  


 ....not  


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December 03, 2018, 12:05:13 PM
I'm a Scientist, have been for most of my life. I have NEVER believed in a supreme being, despite going to Catholic schools my entire life.

I'd like to know.... What is it that compels you to believe in God? How can you argue for his existence? Please bare the following in mind when you answer;

1. There are literally thousands of religions, each of which has members that believe just as firmly as you do, they say they feel a personal connection with God, they have their own religious books and doctrines etc, if you were born in Saudi Arabia, you would be a muslim, in Ireland you would be a protestant, seems like the place you are born denotes your religion, rather than divine intervention. Obviously you can't all be right, so how do you know YOU are.

2. Most religions state that God is all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving, all-present and eternal. If this is the case, why are people punished for sins by an all loving God, who predestined them to commit their sins by knowing the future? Why is there bone cancer in Children, and insects that burrow into the eyes of infants making them blind, could an all loving God not have imagined a reality without this? And why is there such overwhelming evidence AGAINST the existence of a creator?

3. Since the scientific era God has slowly receded into the shadows, God used to be held responsible for most things, e.g. people offered sacrifices for good health, prayed for rain, thought that God pulled the sun across the sky, created plagues etc. Now we know he does none of these, and God has been reduced to a "God of the gaps" whereby he is still attributed to things we cannot yet explain with science, doesn't seem very powerful anymore.

I'll try to respond to the major points in this thread attempting to dismantle them.
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I believe that God exists.
and I cannot explain how I can believe that God exists? because everything about God is beyond my mind,
if I can explain about God, I will not believe anymore if God exists.
so the point is, humans cannot logic about God because of the power of God beyond human reason
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