Topic: Why do you believe God exists? - page 8. (Read 7889 times)

''have experienced true, personal, life changing miracles that prove to them God is real.'' This is by definition faith. It's called delusion. How do they know it's true? They don't, there is no evidence, therefore it's faith.

In my opinion, the experiences with God are not necessarily based on faith or belief. Some people have experienced true, personal, life changing miracles that prove to them God is real. To them, they don't need to believe in God, they know God exists.

Scientific theories are the best explanation for a specific thing though. Also global warming is not a scientific theory. The fact is that god is not a scientific theory, hypothesis or anything, it's just religion. It's by definition something that you have to believe in based on faith, not evidence, which is what everyone does. Faith is not a good path to the truth, that's also a fact.

You win, I give up.  Now, take your medication and go read the Bible.

Good night boys and girls.

These folks need some real knowledge, well done.

What do you want to tell here. Everyone is a believer. 

Atheists believe in monkeyman science which is BTW not testable nor even repeatable and is unprovable.

Got some stardust?



DYOR! Scientism is just modern repackage of mystic occult practices.



 

I was a believer until somewhere like 16, i was questioning the hypocrisy of my beliefs. I didn't immediately change my views because i could not see what else there was and i was afraid. So first i changed my views to buddhism, to shamanism and was grasping all the other views as well as long they were somehow keeping some sort of human centric angle to the universe.

Why i was a believer? I was raised to it. Just plain and simple. I could not grasp that everything that has been tought to me by my loving mom could be such a nonsense.

All you have to do is read through the topic, Scientific proof that God exists? - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scientific-proof-that-god-exists-737322 However, this topic is not for believing that God exists. It is for showing the proof that God exists, so that you KNOW that God exists.

When a person doesn't understand the proof, he might believe (or not) depending on the way the discussion goes. When a person understands the proof, he stops being a believer that God exists, because he KNOWS that God exists.

Then why does the Bible - and many other religious books - say that faith is required for salvation? What does a person have to have faith in to be saved?

Faith is in the things that God SAYS and PROMISES. Faith is NOT faith in the fact that God exists. God's existence in known. The thing that is not known is if He is telling the truth about Himself and salvation. We have faith that He IS truthful.

Believe what God says. You already know that He exists.

Not sure the Pope is the best source to be citing for moral clarity. He is not widly regarding outside of Catholic circles and even withing Catholicism his standing is rapidly diminishing for various reasons.

Pope Francis’ approval rating plummets among Catholics
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-francis-approval-rating-plummets-among-american-catholics-in-response


michaelkelly8798 raises a fair point about scientific theories. Many people grab onto whatever scientific theory is currently in vogue and proclaim it as absolute truth. Often this is a way for the slower minded to avoid thinking about a topic. They just want to be told the answer. People who just want to be told the answer often get upset and angry when an answer they have already accepted is questioned.

Uncorrupted science is a search for truth. Plausible ideas and concepts that are not incompatible with current observations are scientific theories. Proven reproducible facts are scientific laws. Theories are often wrong no matter how many scientists ascribe to them. The trashcan of history is full of discarded theories that were once widely embraced by scientists.

The best modern example I can think of is the current scare mongering over man made global warming. The media, the majority of climate scientists, and indeed even the Pope are on record proclaiming that we are cooking the planet and to question this narrative is to be anti-science and worthy of public shamming.

The reality however is that there are very compelling reasons to doubt this uniform presentation of doom. It just takes a genuine scientist and a superior idea to do so.
 
Professor Valentina Zharkova is a tenured professor Mathematician and Astrophysicist. Her model of solar cycles is entirely reproducible, and accurately accounts for prior global temperature variations with a greater then 90% accuracy. It also almost entirely repudiates the current global warming narrative so it is ignored.

Professor Valentina Zharkova: The Solar Magnet Field and the Terrestrial Climate
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M_yqIj38UmY&feature=youtu.be

How many people will take the 90 minutes to watch Professor Zharkova's presentation?  Very few most will prefer to just be told the answer by the media the Pope or whoever else is whispering in their ear.

Truth is like that. Often hidden away in the background present but not demanding or forceful. It patiently waits for people to get tired of their current falsehood and approach it when they are ready.

Yes man, I could see he is just another fanatic, no reasoning from his side.

Is this your proof? I will break down each of your subtheories with real science:

Anatomy: There are families of species, which doesn't mean one evolved from the other they simply have similar features. It just proves a common designer. Comodo dragon didn’t evolve from the lizard just because the look similar, they are just from the same family.

DNA: Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes; Apes and monkeys have 24 pairs this must mean we come from the monkey, but wait tobacco also has 24 pairs we might have come from tobacco as well. Chicken and dogs both have 78 chromosomes who evolved from who? They’re very similar. Amebas have 50 chromosomes if we came from ameba how come they have more chromosomes than us.

Fossils: You don't need a creationist telling debating fossils don't prove evolution cause you can find scientists that support evolution stating fossils don’t prove it. (Yo u tube .c om/watch?v=X28MZbQGjZk (see by yourself, you won’t have issues finding other videos XD))

Direct observation: All you can see is MICRO evolution (which exists), macroevolution hasn't been observed. (That's why is just a theory)

Now let's compare your whole evolutive theory with a real LAW, let's review basic biology, according to the LAW OF BIOGENESIS: it refers to the production of life from already-living matter or organisms. Living organisms CAN'T be produced from non-living matter. You can look for a guy named Louis Pasteur (if you remember him from your school years) and the meat experiment reproduced over and over by other scientists.  Biogenesis is routinely observed at all levels of life. When a bacteria divides, a plant produces seeds, or a mammal gives birth and so on. Now repeat again how bacteria originated from an explosion of different gases.

Don't quote the pope man, he is as ignorant as you are, he doesn't represent the God of Israel because he is speaking against Him and against the way the Bible describes God made the world, whoever says God is a liar doesn’t represent God.

Not worth wasting time with monkey men here.

Astargath is also a top 3 knucklehead in our thread, you can check it out.

Can't post link, otherwise another one of them will delete my post.






 

Oh man, you are not only a gullible idiot but also an uneducated one.

Did you take Biology in high school? 

https://www.khanacademy.org/science/biology/her/evolution-and-natural-selection/a/lines-of-evidence-for-evolution

You sound like an ignorant bronze age goat herder.  Magic is everywhere, God created everything, "he sees you when you sleeping, he knows when you are awake..." etc.

Just learn the basics, you will be overwhelmed with evidence.

Even Pope disagrees with morons like you:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-9822514.html

What's the challenge? He believes a video of a kid resurrecting, you know that right? He is delusional. This thread is filled with evidence about evolution, filled.

You are just running away cause you have no arguments against his challenge. Coward.

Man... The scientists have shied away

Still talking about the videos? Man if you don't believe in them that's fine, get over it. If you are just trying to go through the branches you won't achieve it, you know why? Because you cannot prove you are not an ignorant atheist who puts all his trust on what some random guy said when you yourself have tested NOTHING. You need to understand the thing is either WHITE or BLACK, it's either proven, observed and experimented on (LAW), or it's just a bunch of assumptions, opinions that may make sense for some people but not proved to be true (theory). What you can't ignore is your lack of knowledge. The COUNT for the faithful atheists is still: 1

The challenge is still standing for other atheists who claim to have some critical thinking and evidence:

I dare any of you to prove evolution, not 2 proofs, one would be enough. Just keep in mind the definition of the scientific method first before you quote the fosils and the random bones found "a method of investigation in which a problem is first identified and OBSERVATIONS, EXPERIMENTS, or other relevant data are then used to construct or TEST hypotheses that PURPORT to solve it."

2nd, then tell me if you are the guys that only believe in something when you have the evidence, why is evolution still just a theory if it was tested and proved true it should be a "LAW" and then tell me why you believe in it. Now you can do your search, do your BEST to reason and say something that sounds smart at least to prove your point.   

I'm starting to have a good time XD

?? Too many words? The definition of a scientific theory is clear and has been clear all along, the fact that you can't even admit that you were deeply wrong on this clearly shows your bias and lack of critical thinking. You are a disgusting human being, get out of my face, keep living your ignorant life and believing random youtube videos like a 5 year old. Don't bother responding, you are ignored forever.

Great research though.

Too many words to try to argue a theory isn't a bunch of assumptions that haven't been tested.

Faithful NO evidence atheist COUNT: 1