Topic: Why do you still want to play fake web2 casinos? Why we choose web3 casinos - page 3. (Read 1129 times)
June 26, 2023, 08:55:52 AM
It's not about web 2.0 or web3, for me the most important thing is that the provider is trusted, the deposit and withdrawal process doesn't take long, customer support available every need, game, uptime its more importan for me. Web3 might be considered better in terms of transaction speed, however, i think all providers have rules such as minimal confirmation for deposits, and the withdrawal process may not be done instantly, even though in fact it already supports web3.
June 26, 2023, 01:19:22 AM
Yes web 2 or 3 no matter gambling requires high skill and prediction ability. But one thing should always be kept in mind that gambling should always be taken as fun and gambling should be done with a cool head. web 3 casino never guarantees profit to any gambler so why can anyone call web2 casino a scam? None can be called risk free because gambling is not gambling without financial risk.
High skills is mandatory when you are playing some strategy based games so your experience will matter in that one but if we talk about general gambling like slots whether high RTP or low we need to be lucky to win that particular bet otherwise the outcome is loss only.But people are just taking this with Web 3 casinos but in general it's still the same and you need to play with your funds and be safe to choose the reputable casinos only as with new trends many scammers also want to take it as opportunity to find new victims. 
June 25, 2023, 02:24:57 PM
He just trying to discourage people to use web2 casino since they see this still gaining despite of web3 slowly gaining fame in industry. But this shifting of likes and trust takes time since those web2 casino already earned some overwhelming fame so even though they are not doing any update regarding to this for now but for sure in future if web3 will became mandatory update provably majority will adopt and those people will remain on the casino where they trust the most and ignore other new one for a while.
I don't really see any significant success for the web3 platforms so far, we don't even have much in the industry for the time being, even if there are, most people don't use them due to trust issues because they require you to connect your wallet with the website in order to be able to gamble which can be risky if the website isn't trusted and all your assets are kept in that wallet, that's why these platforms aren't getting enough fame for now.There might be a time in future when these web3 platforms will become popular and might even cross web2 platforms in popularity and revenue generating, but for the time being, web2 casinos are ruling the online gambling industry and there are no signs of them going down.
The nascent blockchain tech underlying Web3 platforms adds to the trust challenge, as its understanding is not widespread. Also, the necessity for users to link their digital wallets to Web3 gambling platforms introduces potential security threats
Yet, these challenges are not intractable. Recall the early internet years; skepticism and initial reluctance often pave the way to acceptance as technology advances and benefits become clear. So, while Web2 platforms rule now, we can't dismiss a future shift as Web3 matures
June 25, 2023, 12:51:21 PM
I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774
So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774
So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
The trouble with attacking people with rubbish accusations is, you don't win anyone over to your side of thinking and actively make people opposed to your idea. If this is how you treat strangers then I would never want to be a customer or user of your services in the first place, nevermind your decentralized claim. You seem unbalanced which could lead to all sorts of other problems down the line. It is irrational to claim "web2" casino's are fake when people are using them consistently for years, if not decades. You really need to rethink your marketing strategy as it is a total failure.
June 25, 2023, 12:34:05 PM
Since we are blessed enough to have the opportunity to use either the web2 or web3 casino gambling, we cannot arrived at the conclusion that one is fake over the other because they both serve different aspects under same purpose for better gambling experience for it users, there's no doubt that many of them have already upgraded to the web 3 technology because they realizes that it's what people want more these current dispensation.
I doubt that the majority of the casino upgraded to web3 technology as in the real web which casino use smart contracts for a decentralized betting. Most of web3 application done by the casinos are just the application of web3 wallets to login on the casino but the rest of the experience is still web2 since they still offer same centralized game coming from 3rd party provider.
Web2 casino is still the best in terms of user experience because most of the providers is using wbe2 to have a better game design that is not limited to blockchain.
I would not call either of the two casinos a scam, I have all seen that they talk about web3, some do not know that it is a web3 casino, they can only be repeating what others say, but the profits of a web 3 casino are not possible then? I think that in every casino everything is possible, there is nothing that can avoid it, the only way is for the casino to capitalize with the money of the players and that is an uncommon and very risky practice, they are never successful in that when they do it, so I wouldn't call it that, I think that each casino has its rules , its rules, and there are Always winners and Losers.
June 25, 2023, 11:42:45 AM
Since we are blessed enough to have the opportunity to use either the web2 or web3 casino gambling, we cannot arrived at the conclusion that one is fake over the other because they both serve different aspects under same purpose for better gambling experience for it users, there's no doubt that many of them have already upgraded to the web 3 technology because they realizes that it's what people want more these current dispensation.
I doubt that the majority of the casino upgraded to web3 technology as in the real web which casino use smart contracts for a decentralized betting. Most of web3 application done by the casinos are just the application of web3 wallets to login on the casino but the rest of the experience is still web2 since they still offer same centralized game coming from 3rd party provider.
Web2 casino is still the best in terms of user experience because most of the providers is using wbe2 to have a better game design that is not limited to blockchain.
Prior to replying on this post, I have no clue about the difference between a web 2 vs a web 3 casino. Upon doing some searches, I stumbled upon this definition provided by Google, which is as follows:
The main difference between Web 2.0 and Web3
Whereas Web 2.0 is based on centralisation and control of a few institutions, Web3 promises a virtual landscape based on decentralisation and peer-to-peer transactions, mainly facilitated through the integration of blockchain technology.1
This is very interesting- it implies that web 2 casinos have ownership over the game assets; whereas web 3 casinos, it is centralized and players have ownership over the game assets. I agree, players should definitely avoid web 2 casinos even if they may provide higher bonuses and rewards. The fact that the players have no ownership means that the game operators have full control and disposal over its assets.
1 https://www.computing.co.uk/sponsored/4062112/industry-voice-web3-affect-igaming-industry#:~:text=The%20main%20difference%20between%20Web,the%20integration%20of%20blockchain%20technology.
June 25, 2023, 06:30:49 AM
Since we are blessed enough to have the opportunity to use either the web2 or web3 casino gambling, we cannot arrived at the conclusion that one is fake over the other because they both serve different aspects under same purpose for better gambling experience for it users, there's no doubt that many of them have already upgraded to the web 3 technology because they realizes that it's what people want more these current dispensation.
I doubt that the majority of the casino upgraded to web3 technology as in the real web which casino use smart contracts for a decentralized betting. Most of web3 application done by the casinos are just the application of web3 wallets to login on the casino but the rest of the experience is still web2 since they still offer same centralized game coming from 3rd party provider.
Web2 casino is still the best in terms of user experience because most of the providers is using wbe2 to have a better game design that is not limited to blockchain.
June 25, 2023, 06:24:30 AM
He just trying to discourage people to use web2 casino since they see this still gaining despite of web3 slowly gaining fame in industry. But this shifting of likes and trust takes time since those web2 casino already earned some overwhelming fame so even though they are not doing any update regarding to this for now but for sure in future if web3 will became mandatory update provably majority will adopt and those people will remain on the casino where they trust the most and ignore other new one for a while.
I don't really see any significant success for the web3 platforms so far, we don't even have much in the industry for the time being, even if there are, most people don't use them due to trust issues because they require you to connect your wallet with the website in order to be able to gamble which can be risky if the website isn't trusted and all your assets are kept in that wallet, that's why these platforms aren't getting enough fame for now.There might be a time in future when these web3 platforms will become popular and might even cross web2 platforms in popularity and revenue generating, but for the time being, web2 casinos are ruling the online gambling industry and there are no signs of them going down.
The issue of connecting one's wallet to use such platforms is truly a major issue with comes to trust, because most of people have used and continue to use software wallets which are easier to mess with remotely, to steal funds and invade the privacy of the users.
I think that if the industry of the hardware wallets was more widespread, it could be translated on more people not having to trust the web3 casino, because it would not be a feasible way for a shady or scam casino to seize the private keys. They could partake in gambling without worries.
June 25, 2023, 05:09:19 AM
Since we are blessed enough to have the opportunity to use either the web2 or web3 casino gambling, we cannot arrived at the conclusion that one is fake over the other because they both serve different aspects under same purpose for better gambling experience for it users, there's no doubt that many of them have already upgraded to the web 3 technology because they realizes that it's what people want more these current dispensation.
I doubt that the majority of the casino upgraded to web3 technology as in the real web which casino use smart contracts for a decentralized betting. Most of web3 application done by the casinos are just the application of web3 wallets to login on the casino but the rest of the experience is still web2 since they still offer same centralized game coming from 3rd party provider.
Web2 casino is still the best in terms of user experience because most of the providers is using wbe2 to have a better game design that is not limited to blockchain.
June 25, 2023, 02:24:34 AM
He just trying to discourage people to use web2 casino since they see this still gaining despite of web3 slowly gaining fame in industry. But this shifting of likes and trust takes time since those web2 casino already earned some overwhelming fame so even though they are not doing any update regarding to this for now but for sure in future if web3 will became mandatory update provably majority will adopt and those people will remain on the casino where they trust the most and ignore other new one for a while.
I don't really see any significant success for the web3 platforms so far, we don't even have much in the industry for the time being, even if there are, most people don't use them due to trust issues because they require you to connect your wallet with the website in order to be able to gamble which can be risky if the website isn't trusted and all your assets are kept in that wallet, that's why these platforms aren't getting enough fame for now.There might be a time in future when these web3 platforms will become popular and might even cross web2 platforms in popularity and revenue generating, but for the time being, web2 casinos are ruling the online gambling industry and there are no signs of them going down.
June 24, 2023, 10:26:06 AM
Since we are blessed enough to have the opportunity to use either the web2 or web3 casino gambling, we cannot arrived at the conclusion that one is fake over the other because they both serve different aspects under same purpose for better gambling experience for it users, there's no doubt that many of them have already upgraded to the web 3 technology because they realizes that it's what people want more these current dispensation.
I doubt that the majority of the casino upgraded to web3 technology as in the real web which casino use smart contracts for a decentralized betting. Most of web3 application done by the casinos are just the application of web3 wallets to login on the casino but the rest of the experience is still web2 since they still offer same centralized game coming from 3rd party provider.
Web2 casino is still the best in terms of user experience because most of the providers is using wbe2 to have a better game design that is not limited to blockchain.
I guess people are also still using web2, but they know the casino they want, and it's not a scam casino. Those who use these casinos have done a good search to find the right one.
June 24, 2023, 10:00:50 AM
Why would any one want to play on a new "web3" casino that no one knows about when there are already "web2" casinos (by which I guess you mean the centralized crypto casinos?) that has very good reputation, has been doing well, rewarding their users, solving all their issues they face? Why would someone want to risk their funds in something very new? Yeah, the "web3" casinos might be decentralized, but there are still ways were the "decentralization" might be compromised by the developers. And regulatory issues also exists. Gambling in a centralized casino seems more reliable and better to me in terms of support, legal issues and other general stuffs.
Web3 casino claim to be fully decentralized and even though that is not what is sustainable in the long run and it has created a lot of misconceptions around the gambling community and this is something we should take a closer look at to settle within our self whether or not we should trust the web3 development since there have been many negativity around web3 casino with a lot of unsolved issues. Then so why then do we need a web3 casino when we have casinos like Stake and the rest reputable casino that offer almost everything the web3 promises?
June 24, 2023, 08:53:06 AM
Since we are blessed enough to have the opportunity to use either the web2 or web3 casino gambling, we cannot arrived at the conclusion that one is fake over the other because they both serve different aspects under same purpose for better gambling experience for it users, there's no doubt that many of them have already upgraded to the web 3 technology because they realizes that it's what people want more these current dispensation.
It seems blessed because Web3 will transform the Internet as we know it, upsetting the traditional gatekeepers and ushering in a new digital economy without intermediaries. This will make it easier for gamblers to play because most people believe that AI will play an important role in Web3. Currently, with blockchain technology, the gambling industry will grow even bigger with no government regulation. hero member
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June 24, 2023, 07:42:30 AM
Since we are blessed enough to have the opportunity to use either the web2 or web3 casino gambling, we cannot arrived at the conclusion that one is fake over the other because they both serve different aspects under same purpose for better gambling experience for it users, there's no doubt that many of them have already upgraded to the web 3 technology because they realizes that it's what people want more these current dispensation.
I doubt that the majority of the casino upgraded to web3 technology as in the real web which casino use smart contracts for a decentralized betting. Most of web3 application done by the casinos are just the application of web3 wallets to login on the casino but the rest of the experience is still web2 since they still offer same centralized game coming from 3rd party provider.
Web2 casino is still the best in terms of user experience because most of the providers is using wbe2 to have a better game design that is not limited to blockchain.
I guess people are also still using web2, but they know the casino they want, and it's not a scam casino. Those who use these casinos have done a good search to find the right one.
June 24, 2023, 05:56:19 AM
Since we are blessed enough to have the opportunity to use either the web2 or web3 casino gambling, we cannot arrived at the conclusion that one is fake over the other because they both serve different aspects under same purpose for better gambling experience for it users, there's no doubt that many of them have already upgraded to the web 3 technology because they realizes that it's what people want more these current dispensation.
I doubt that the majority of the casino upgraded to web3 technology as in the real web which casino use smart contracts for a decentralized betting. Most of web3 application done by the casinos are just the application of web3 wallets to login on the casino but the rest of the experience is still web2 since they still offer same centralized game coming from 3rd party provider.
Web2 casino is still the best in terms of user experience because most of the providers is using wbe2 to have a better game design that is not limited to blockchain.
June 24, 2023, 12:52:41 AM
Since we are blessed enough to have the opportunity to use either the web2 or web3 casino gambling, we cannot arrived at the conclusion that one is fake over the other because they both serve different aspects under same purpose for better gambling experience for it users, there's no doubt that many of them have already upgraded to the web 3 technology because they realizes that it's what people want more these current dispensation.
June 23, 2023, 09:50:44 PM
A latecomer to this thread but other than being in agreement with ONasty on that not everything necessarily has to be decentralized -- I personally like gambling with a trusted entity, someone I trust can do the hard work required to create markets, to settle sports bets fairly (as opposed to objectively as a true smart contract might), even to enjoy some goodwill as I typically do at my favourite sportsbooks. Even to enjoy camaraderie between non-anon freaks.
That all said, a lot of people claim Web3 just the way people claimed decentralised a few years ago.
But they really only mean non-custodial, right OP? Wrapped BTC? Hosted (not distributed nodes) server. Single source developer? Non-diverse oracles for markets?
Aren't those all supposed to be the opposite of Web3 prerequisites? How many 'Web3' projects have all these?
That all said, a lot of people claim Web3 just the way people claimed decentralised a few years ago.
But they really only mean non-custodial, right OP? Wrapped BTC? Hosted (not distributed nodes) server. Single source developer? Non-diverse oracles for markets?
Aren't those all supposed to be the opposite of Web3 prerequisites? How many 'Web3' projects have all these?
a lot of these casinos claiming to be practicing web 3.0 are really not web 3.0. as you said, they are more on non-custodial type thing but if you look at other facets, they are not exercising the web 3.0 features like total decentralisation.
and the data - i guess most of them are still owned by these owners not across users, which should be the case. somehow, the owners of these casinos still have control on the data they are actually receiving from their players.
This is just the same, when scammers realized that the idea of a decentralized casino was getting popular they immediately created their platform and claimed to be decentralized, and unfortunately there are many newbies out there that will believe them without making their due research, and most likely this will suffer heavy consequences because of it.
June 23, 2023, 08:24:11 PM
a lot of these casinos claiming to be practicing web 3.0 are really not web 3.0. as you said, they are more on non-custodial type thing but if you look at other facets, they are not exercising the web 3.0 features like total decentralisation.
and the data - i guess most of them are still owned by these owners not across users, which should be the case. somehow, the owners of these casinos still have control on the data they are actually receiving from their players.
and the data - i guess most of them are still owned by these owners not across users, which should be the case. somehow, the owners of these casinos still have control on the data they are actually receiving from their players.
maybe they're just capitalizing on the hype that web 3.0 brought over. several crypto projects also take advantage of it to attract incoming investment.
New casinos offer what is currently popular in the market. and when they offer good programs and bonuses, of course it attracts attention from new users.
it may indeed require more in-depth research to find out how such casinos work. if no victim has complained yet, it probably won't be a concern for many people.
June 23, 2023, 06:57:46 PM
A latecomer to this thread but other than being in agreement with ONasty on that not everything necessarily has to be decentralized -- I personally like gambling with a trusted entity, someone I trust can do the hard work required to create markets, to settle sports bets fairly (as opposed to objectively as a true smart contract might), even to enjoy some goodwill as I typically do at my favourite sportsbooks. Even to enjoy camaraderie between non-anon freaks.
That all said, a lot of people claim Web3 just the way people claimed decentralised a few years ago.
But they really only mean non-custodial, right OP? Wrapped BTC? Hosted (not distributed nodes) server. Single source developer? Non-diverse oracles for markets?
Aren't those all supposed to be the opposite of Web3 prerequisites? How many 'Web3' projects have all these?
That all said, a lot of people claim Web3 just the way people claimed decentralised a few years ago.
But they really only mean non-custodial, right OP? Wrapped BTC? Hosted (not distributed nodes) server. Single source developer? Non-diverse oracles for markets?
Aren't those all supposed to be the opposite of Web3 prerequisites? How many 'Web3' projects have all these?
a lot of these casinos claiming to be practicing web 3.0 are really not web 3.0. as you said, they are more on non-custodial type thing but if you look at other facets, they are not exercising the web 3.0 features like total decentralisation.
and the data - i guess most of them are still owned by these owners not across users, which should be the case. somehow, the owners of these casinos still have control on the data they are actually receiving from their players.
June 23, 2023, 06:53:03 PM
I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774
So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
You think it's because of the decentralized nature pf web3 casino is the reason why the thread was moved to the altcoin section? If you have such beliefs then you are still far from understanding how posting in the forum works because web3 is pour altcoin oriented and as that its discussions belong to the altcoin section, since it's unrelated to Bitcoin so admin is right for moving all web3 casino ANN fo altcoin section because that is where it belongs and not here in the main gambling board. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774
So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
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