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Topic: Why do you still want to play fake web2 casinos? Why we choose web3 casinos - page 8. (Read 1119 times)

legendary
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
it's not that the admins don't like decentralization, this board has a rule that a gambling site that is going to post an ANN thread here needs to accept BTC as a payment method in order for their thread to remain here. your gambling site isn't the only one that has been moved to the altcoin board for not accepting BTC as a payment method on their gambling site. one thing you can do if you want your thread to stay here is to accept BTC as a payment method.
sr. member
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do well to work on accepting bitcoin as quick as possible

This is another reason to their being u professional enough because most standard casinos accept bitcoin, they may decided not to accept other cryptocurrencies but bitcoin is a must for acceptabilities despite if they have their own coin introduced.


Bitcoin is the first priority for every casino because it is a general commodity for all gamblers online. When it comes to funds mostly and commonly used by online gamblers, you think of bitcoin because bitcoin has been there onset from the very first beginning of online gambling and it has been there and would  still remain there and moreover, it is the first cryptocurrency to be acknowledged and accepted as a digital currency before the advent of other crypto currency so therefore, any new generational casino that is thinking of standing without including bitcoin as a means of payment is likely not going anywhere because nobody would look into their way to gamble with them. Justbet should know about this before they doom themselves.
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
The only thing you need is to do what you say you will do. There are casinos just like yours that will make a big promise but end up cheating there customers. That alone can spoil your reputation and make gamblers not to choose to use your casino and bet. Provide more games and increase bonuses because that will make more gamblers to want to bet since there are bonuses.
the way you are in the sizing on casino I don't think that there is no casino that does not have cheating on its way or principles because I know that casinos platform cheating is the way they make their own money so over I'm making all repeating the statement of a casino platforms cheating I don't think that is a very nice idea from my own understand that is why I continue to go through or what you post and continue to be quoting you to antagonize or to come against your posts.
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
The only thing you need is to do what you say you will do. There are casinos just like yours that will make a big promise but end up cheating there customers. That alone can spoil your reputation and make gamblers not to choose to use your casino and bet. Provide more games and increase bonuses because that will make more gamblers to want to bet since there are bonuses.
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legendary
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Some draw a hard line between Bitcoin and the alternatives derived from the ideas of BTC origins but not directly related.  Hence a hard division between the two, I like innovation and all the possibilities but it does introduce possible complications that people maybe should be aware of as an added precaution.
  I followed your topic seems something interesting I should definitely know more about then I do currently.

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The term Web3 was coined by Gavin Wood—one of the co-founders of the Ethereum cryptocurrency—as Web 3.0 in 2014. Since then it’s become a catch-all term for anything that has to do with the next generation of the internet being a decentralized digital infrastructure(Opens in a new window).

Wood, and those who support the Web3 concept, claim that Web 2.0 is controlled by big tech, which in turn is beholden to regulators who may or may not be effective at maintaining public trust in the internet or data security. In a 2021 interview with Wired(Opens in a new window), Wood said the current web requires trust in institutions that we can’t hold accountable:

"Maybe [companies] tell the truth because they're scared that their reputation will take a big hit if they don't. But then, as we saw with some of the Snowden revelations, sometimes companies don't get an opportunity to tell the truth," Wood told Wired. "Sometimes, security services can just install a box in their back office, and they're told, ‘You don't need to look at this box, you're not allowed to say or do anything about this box, you just have to sit quietly.’” https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/what-is-web3-and-how-will-it-work
legendary
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.

Obviously we need to decentralize everything that we can. Especially things that have power over our money. Web2 casinos or exchanges are all the same. They carry the risk of taking your money away whenever they wish, for whatever reason. Some are older, more known and definitely more trustworthy. But the fact that we have to have a trust scale at all seems redundant. I would rather verify than trust. And replacing trusting with verifying is exactly what web3 is for.

Unfortunately, web3 is in its baby shoes and there are no truly decentralized casino platforms just yet. Sure, many claim to be web3 but thats mostly marketing some decentralized feature. That is why web2 casinos are just as likely to freeze your funds or reject your winnings as web3 casinos are. For now, anyway. We will achieve real decentralization of casinos at some point in the future.
legendary
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Web3 casinos are still very much new to several gamblers, we could take a look at centralized and decentralized exchanges for example, as of today decentralized exchanges have become quite popular, but why hasnt every trader abandoned centralized exchanges for decentralized ones?
The answer is quite simple, going decentralized is pretty complicated for many, coupled with that you have to hold the coin that powers the chain you are transacting on, so as to be able to pay for transaction confirmations on the chain, in as much as this is a lame reason, it still can be a good reason why many have refused to completely abandon centralized exchanges - we can link this same scenario to web2 and web3 casinos - and to add, like I mentioned earlier, web3 casinos are still very new and yet to gain trust from gamblers, a web3 casino right now will need alot of marketing to make any wave.

And again, find a way to start accepting bitcoin deposit and withdrawals on your casino, and your ann won't be moved to altcoin board anymore.
legendary
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I think the answer is fairly simple: web3 casinos aren’t that polished just yet and web2 platforms simply work. If you can point out an example of a web3 casino that works flawlessly that doesn’t have any issues with law enforcement, then that would be great and we might as well try. That’s another reason why Web3 platforms aren’t as popular: they have potential issues with governments due to their nature that’s why people wouldn’t dare risk it.


Of course, we are working on having a license. But what is the license for? It is to protect the user from central authorities. Getting licenses for DAOs isn't easy because contracts own the system. For example, AAVE is like a bank, but it does not have a bank license. There is a lot of uncertainty about DAOs. Hopefully, we'll be the first to figure this out. Here users have to trust the contracts. For the security of the codes, of course, it is necessary to have audits with highly reputable security companies. All of this has already been done. We are negotiating with various license providers on the other issue and we will definitely reach a conclusion.

Currently, games can be played with WBTC on the platform. It is not possible to integrate Bitcoin in a decentralized way. If we get into the deposit-and-play thing like everyone else, then we'll compromise on decentralization.

although I also disagree with these government rules forcing casinos and people to have to do kyc, so as we have no choice we have to obey the laws and in that part how will your casino deal with kyc? it will be very complicated, the license issue will also be complicated, but your biggest problem is the fact that you don't have bitcoin as a deposit option in your casino so with that move you exclude those people who like to place bets only with bitcoin, so you come in this section where it is dedicated to bitcoin obviously you would have a problem

for you to be able to compete with other casinos you need to add bitcoin and old and more popular altcoins and you have to pay advertising so that your casino is widely known, then all you will need to do is have good customer service, bug free casino, be active in forum, these are things that are part of good marketing, but from what I can see it would not be easy for you to put bitcoin, so create publicity and tell people that your casino is intended for people who have altcoins and like to use them in casinos, if your casino has a lot of games then people will play there
sr. member
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You don't want to take it against the mods but you're saying they don't like decentralization hehe. Why do you also attack web 2 casinos by calling them unfair and fake? I doubt most players would even consider opening your site with that kind of approach to promote your own.

There are hybrid gambling platforms here that allows connecting personal wallet directly to the casino while also giving players the option to login via email. Maybe try to look at them and see if you could adapt.
legendary
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Don't take it against the moderators they have rules for admins of the platforms to follow so we have to accept that decision that your platform is not for this board your platform is smart contract based and it follows that it should be on the altcoin section where all smart contract based platform is housed.

Just get your smart contract audited if you cannot add Bitcoin you can still establish your position in the altcoin section, there are gamblers who support Web3 and don't try to compete in centralized casinos both have their own share of the market and followers.

No, we don't take it against the moderators, we just want them to reconsider the rules. After all, this is a centralized forum and they can rethink these rules and make a new decision. We feel that these rules prevent us from competing with web2 casinos.

The audit processes of our contracts already have been completed. You can have a look at the link below.

https://docs.just.bet/justbet/developers/audit
No offense but what you feel doesn't matter in this case. You have been told by many already that your thread was moved due to the fact that you don't allow btc deposits. If you wish to be in this section, just make btc an option on your site. They're not censoring you or not allowing you to post, they're following the rules of the forum.

If they allow you to keep your thread in this section, then they have to allow everyone else. It's nothing against you.
copper member
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Don't take it against the moderators they have rules for admins of the platforms to follow so we have to accept that decision that your platform is not for this board your platform is smart contract based and it follows that it should be on the altcoin section where all smart contract based platform is housed.

Just get your smart contract audited if you cannot add Bitcoin you can still establish your position in the altcoin section, there are gamblers who support Web3 and don't try to compete in centralized casinos both have their own share of the market and followers.

No, we don't take it against the moderators, we just want them to reconsider the rules. After all, this is a centralized forum and they can rethink these rules and make a new decision. We feel that these rules prevent us from competing with web2 casinos.

The audit processes of our contracts already have been completed. You can have a look at the link below.

https://docs.just.bet/justbet/developers/audit
copper member
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I think the answer is fairly simple: web3 casinos aren’t that polished just yet and web2 platforms simply work. If you can point out an example of a web3 casino that works flawlessly that doesn’t have any issues with law enforcement, then that would be great and we might as well try. That’s another reason why Web3 platforms aren’t as popular: they have potential issues with governments due to their nature that’s why people wouldn’t dare risk it.


Of course, we are working on having a license. But what is the license for? It is to protect the user from central authorities. Getting licenses for DAOs isn't easy because contracts own the system. For example, AAVE is like a bank, but it does not have a bank license. There is a lot of uncertainty about DAOs. Hopefully, we'll be the first to figure this out. Here users have to trust the contracts. For the security of the codes, of course, it is necessary to have audits with highly reputable security companies. All of this has already been done. We are negotiating with various license providers on the other issue and we will definitely reach a conclusion.

Currently, games can be played with WBTC on the platform. It is not possible to integrate Bitcoin in a decentralized way. If we get into the deposit-and-play thing like everyone else, then we'll compromise on decentralization.
hero member
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774

Don't take it against the moderators they have rules for admins of the platforms to follow so we have to accept that decision that your platform is not for this board your platform is smart contract based and it follows that it should be on the altcoin section where all smart contract based platform is housed.

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So let's discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos?
Just get your smart contract audited if you cannot add Bitcoin you can still establish your position in the altcoin section, there are gamblers who support Web3 and don't try to compete in centralized casinos both have their own share of the market and followers.
hero member
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Bitcoin was invented to get rid of middlemen. Web3 does exactly that. We are trying to save you from middlemen and make more reliable platforms. So basically we serve the purpose of bitcoin, but since we accept wbtc instead of bitcoin, it's really sad that we can't find a place in this forum. I think they should reconsider on this.
It's actually you're the one who need to reconsider to add Bitcoin if you want your thread stay in gambling section.

Any tokens in ETH or centralized chain is centralized, there's no such ETH is decentralized if you're not use a centralized site, it's just a less decentralized and there's a chance all the ETH or centralized chain token could be frozen even you hold it on your non custodial wallet.

A real decentralization need to use a decentralized coin, not just a free KYC site and without deposit.
hero member
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos?
You may be wrong in your conclusion of admin not liking decentralization because they move web3 casinos ANN to altcoin sectioned but between the whole idea of web3 is linked to altcoin and has even added centralization more than decentralization so this has nothing to do with decentralization being the reason for the movement of the thread to altcoin boards.
legendary
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I think the answer is fairly simple: web3 casinos aren’t that polished just yet and web2 platforms simply work. If you can point out an example of a web3 casino that works flawlessly that doesn’t have any issues with law enforcement, then that would be great and we might as well try. That’s another reason why Web3 platforms aren’t as popular: they have potential issues with governments due to their nature that’s why people wouldn’t dare risk it.
legendary
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Bitcoin was invented to get rid of middlemen. Web3 does exactly that. We are trying to save you from middlemen and make more reliable platforms. So basically we serve the purpose of bitcoin, but since we accept wbtc instead of bitcoin, it's really sad that we can't find a place in this forum. I think they should reconsider on this.
Let us hope so until one day that regulators will come after anything Web3, in a way that they will force you to make KYC mandatory. Yet no middle man but not centralization.

Your topic was moved because gambling board is under bitcoin boards but Web3 is not related to bitcoin.

The main thing is that the casino or other gambling services meet the requirements of honesty in the conditions. What difference does it make web2 or web3 if the casino has an open source and is accredited by programmers who see that the chances of winning are fair?
I think that such conditions are enough to safely play in an online casino.
Some centralized crypto casinos are satisfying their customers. It is just like smart contract decentralized and centralised exchanges. If you are satisfying your customers, they will advice other people to join.
hero member
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As you can see, there are no much interest in your casino anymore and as a result of your unprofessional presentation

They need to understand the reason why a professional expertise is needed in making their presentations for them and administering to the affairs of the casino, people no longer make use of web2 again as before, they have to maintain this new era of development by a steady financial commitment and running of their casino in a standard operational level, the more their delivery task the more opportunities place for them.

do well to work on accepting bitcoin as quick as possible

This is another reason to their being u professional enough because most standard casinos accept bitcoin, they may decided not to accept other cryptocurrencies but bitcoin is a must for acceptabilities despite if they have their own coin introduced.
hero member
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The main thing is that the casino or other gambling services meet the requirements of honesty in the conditions. What difference does it make web2 or web3 if the casino has an open source and is accredited by programmers who see that the chances of winning are fair?
I think that such conditions are enough to safely play in an online casino.

Exactly, Web3 casino have a license to operate while they are just using a 3rd party provider for their games is audited and license too by gambling regulator. A pure decentralised casino is not in demand that much since centralized casino already move forward on the legality compared before that most casino do exit scam since they have nothing to lose because the owner is a complete anonymous.

Centralized casino is operating for so long without a problem or known serious scam accusations that doesn't solved. I doubt decentralized casino can beat that considering the games offered on web3 casino is very plain and simple.
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The main thing is that the casino or other gambling services meet the requirements of honesty in the conditions. What difference does it make web2 or web3 if the casino has an open source and is accredited by programmers who see that the chances of winning are fair?
I think that such conditions are enough to safely play in an online casino.
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