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Web2 casino sites are still preferred by everyone because there is no need to connect one's personal wallet, which allows everyone to stay within certain gambling limits and protect their funds. KYC on Web2 Casino site is a bit of a hassle for everyone but everyone likes it. Nowadays web3 casino sites are not yet preferred by people so I think web2 sites are the best so far but with the advancement of technology everyone is trying to improve everything in that case considering you can set up your site on web3 because in the market There are huge amounts of web2 casinos out there so there are a lot of competitors 
Topic: Why do you still want to play fake web2 casinos? Why we choose web3 casinos - page 5. (Read 1129 times)
June 07, 2023, 07:47:55 AM
June 07, 2023, 07:39:16 AM
So, You are telling us that all web2 casinos are unfair and web3 casinos are fair. Isn't it like a dog eats a dog? You don't have to pull down anyone to climb up. Just improve your platform, and don't put your fingers on another platform. Those things destroy your professionalism. Do you have any proof that web2 casinos are unfair? Let's say a web2 casino admin asks you this question, I am curious what your answer would be. You cannot force others to be the same as you. However, does your casino support the Main Chain of Bitcoin? If yes, How?
Both web2 and web3 casinos can be fair and unfair, but you have to pay attention to the reputation of a casino because reputation never lies. And if the web2 or web3 casino has a good reputation, they will not destroy their hard work but provide even better service. This is what differentiates it from other casinos where a casino's professionalism is well maintained. And what can really beat competition between casinos is how a casino can serve its members well because members only seek the satisfaction of playing gambling and the best service. hero member
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June 07, 2023, 06:06:42 AM
So, You are telling us that all web2 casinos are unfair and web3 casinos are fair. Isn't it like a dog eats a dog? You don't have to pull down anyone to climb up. Just improve your platform, and don't put your fingers on another platform. Those things destroy your professionalism. Do you have any proof that web2 casinos are unfair? Let's say a web2 casino admin asks you this question, I am curious what your answer would be. You cannot force others to be the same as you. However, does your casino support the Main Chain of Bitcoin? If yes, How?
June 07, 2023, 03:12:45 AM
Web2 Casino Advantages;
Web2 Casino Disadvantages;
Web3 Casino Advantages;
Web3 Casino Disadvantages;
anything I missed?
- More Games
- No technical knowledge needed
- You can print billions of dollars and giveaway
- You can let the influencers win high and advertise it
Web2 Casino Disadvantages;
- Anyone can ban you without reason
- Withdrawal issues
- KYC
- They can use your money(remember FTX)
- They can steal your money
- Not provably fair
Web3 Casino Advantages;
- No KYC
- Instant payouts
- Noone can ban your web3 wallet
- Noone can fool you with fake printed money and fake wins
- Provably fair through blockchain
- You can be the house and earn from casino profit
Web3 Casino Disadvantages;
- Less games
- Needs technical knowledge(using metamask, swap, bridge etc.)
anything I missed?
June 04, 2023, 05:00:26 PM
I agree with you that web3 casinos are potentially fairer than web2 casinos, with the consideration that they are open source and that fund handling is decentralized (as you claim in your thread). Though the reason your thread is moved to Altcoins is not because admins are against decentralization, it is because the forum is the Bitcoin forum...I don't agree with this personally because web2 casinos are sketchy at best these days, but that's just the rules. Unfortunately it is difficult to achieve the feet of a decentralized web3 game that accepts Bitcoin. If you do achieve that feet though, then you can gain exposure in this board.
A web3 game layered upon a web2 internet foundation is still a web2 game no matter what they say. Unless a true paradigm shift in the internet technology is made, such that it will usher in the introduction of web3, we can't expect web3 casinos to even come around let alone be playable. Plus, all these things about being open source and better fund handling could easily be made with technologies available in the Web2 layer, this just makes Web3 look more like a gimmick more than something that is necessary and somethign that we are slowly transitioning towards. So no, as much as I want a more fair and more interactive casino introduced by web3, until we solve these issues we're going to have to stick with Web2 solutions. legendary
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June 04, 2023, 04:54:30 PM
Fake web 2.0 casinos? Seriously op? There are a couple of fake crappy ones for sure, but there are many popular web 2.0 sites which are great for gamblers though they do enforce KYC under certain conditions which is a bummer.
If BTC is somehow successfully integrated into web 3.0 platforms, many gamblers will definitely switch thanks to the decentralization aspect.
Web 3.0 is not fully operational yet and there’s still a lot of things that needs to update.If BTC is somehow successfully integrated into web 3.0 platforms, many gamblers will definitely switch thanks to the decentralization aspect.
So far Web 2.0 sites are still doing good especially if we are talking about the good gambling site here, when you say unfair its a broad description about the site and if you are experiencing problem with any site, then better to look for alternatives. OP’s site looks competitive too, better to go to the main thread and focus on that.
Web 3.0 is indeed, a better version is the internet as it promotes decentralization and helps users to truly own their content on the internet, but like we all probably already know, people find it hard to easily give up what they have used for several years and have come to trust, but all the same, we are looking forward to when web 2.0 will be completely ditched for web 3.0, until then, projects building on web 3.0 should really exercise patience.
June 04, 2023, 04:54:16 PM
Web 3.0 is not fully operational yet and there’s still a lot of things that needs to update.
And this makes everyone want to believe that this web 3.0 concept is just a hype and buzz word that's being used mostly by different projects and even casinos.So far Web 2.0 sites are still doing good especially if we are talking about the good gambling site here, when you say unfair its a broad description about the site and if you are experiencing problem with any site, then better to look for alternatives. OP’s site looks competitive too, better to go to the main thread and focus on that.
People have been used to web 2.0 and it doesn't matter once the relationship of the casino and customers have been built already. Customers wouldn't go somewhere else if they're confident and happy with the one that they use whether the concept is 2.0 or 3.0 or any. 
June 04, 2023, 04:47:31 PM
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There’s really some web2 casino that unfair on customers and they can easily do this because they have the full control of the casino. I think he is just trying to emphasize here the main advantage of web3 decentralized casino.
There’s really some web2 casino that unfair on customers and they can easily do this because they have the full control of the casino. I think he is just trying to emphasize here the main advantage of web3 decentralized casino.
Yeah, that's probably it. I also noticed that the OP mentioned "fake" web2 casinos in the title. And you know what? He's not wrong. There are some downright scammy online casinos out there, and they're a real threat to us players. They rig the games, manipulate the odds, and do everything in their power to make sure we lose our money. However, although the concept of web3 casinos, which operate on blockchain technology, may seem promising in terms of transparency and security, it doesn't guarantee that all web3 casinos will be trustworthy or immune to scams. Just like with any other industry, there will always be bad actors looking to exploit vulnerabilities and deceive unsuspecting players. Maybe even more so in this case, because the vast majority of web3 casinos will operate on decentralized platforms and smart contracts, which can introduce a whole new set of risks and challenges. Decentralized exchanges (DEXs), for example, have faced issues such as smart contract vulnerabilities, hacking incidents, and scams. Just as we have seen in the case of DEXs and other decentralized autonomous organizations (DAOs), the risks and challenges associated with web3 casinos can indeed be significant.
Let's face it though. The transparency of the blockchain may mitigate some of the risk, but it is by no means foolproof. Don't forget about the potential of smart contracts. They're as perceptive as the creators' thoughts. We've seen how even a small error can unleash a flood of problems, allowing hackers to steal thousands.
Remember that there will be no one to run to for help when things become rough because of decentralisation. The burden of security for your possessions now falls squarely on your shoulders. We are on the cusp of an exciting new era, a frontier full of both promise and danger. Let's be alert, study hard, and proceed cautiously across these unexplored frontiers!
June 04, 2023, 04:33:07 PM
Fake web 2.0 casinos? Seriously op? There are a couple of fake crappy ones for sure, but there are many popular web 2.0 sites which are great for gamblers though they do enforce KYC under certain conditions which is a bummer.
If BTC is somehow successfully integrated into web 3.0 platforms, many gamblers will definitely switch thanks to the decentralization aspect.
Web 3.0 is not fully operational yet and there’s still a lot of things that needs to update.If BTC is somehow successfully integrated into web 3.0 platforms, many gamblers will definitely switch thanks to the decentralization aspect.
So far Web 2.0 sites are still doing good especially if we are talking about the good gambling site here, when you say unfair its a broad description about the site and if you are experiencing problem with any site, then better to look for alternatives. OP’s site looks competitive too, better to go to the main thread and focus on that.
June 04, 2023, 03:24:59 PM
So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
Read few of the responses and my guess is web2 casinos are the casinos exists right now? Deposit crypto or fiat to their platform, play and if you win then withdraw?The problems with these type of casinos are
[1.] You need to trust the casino management/service that they are not manipulating games
[2.] You need to trust them that they are not holding your fund if you win big
[3.] You need to trust them with your information like KYC and things like that.
But almost all casinos take care of their own business first. Will we say WEB3 casinos can serve better on the above three points?
June 04, 2023, 08:55:41 AM
Sorry, I just read your topic and want to tell you that your old topic's been moved to the altcoins board because, as a web3 casino, you don't accept bitcoin. Those are the rules and they apply to everyone. Don't take it personally.
I believe, you as part of this web3 casino, should enlighten us about what is the difference between web3 and web3 casinos, then we can argue which one of them is the best.
I'm asking this because most of us still don't know what a web3 casino is all about!
A web3 casino is probably the one that uses blockchain technology and cryptography for all its operations including betting and the outcome of the bets, etc. Someone should be able to use their decentralized wallets to connect and play at a web3 casino because they are decentralized by nature. A web2 casino is a decentralized casino just like we have right now, examples are Stake, Duelbits, TrustDice, and many more.I believe, you as part of this web3 casino, should enlighten us about what is the difference between web3 and web3 casinos, then we can argue which one of them is the best.
I'm asking this because most of us still don't know what a web3 casino is all about!
That is at least what we know so far about web3 platforms, but the technology is fairly new and there will surely be improvements and more features added in the future and we might see a lot of changes in it in the times to come.
June 04, 2023, 03:10:24 AM
^All I know is that web2 is centralized and web3 is decentralized, which is that thought they have big differences.
By popularity and gaining the trust of the community is a way we can trust web2, plus another factor by having an active business here in our forum will bring them more trust than others. The reason could be people still love to use Web 2 casinos is the accessibility and user experience. Web2 casinos often have user-friendly interfaces and intuitive navigation, making them more accessible and convenient for casual users while Web3 casinos, on the other hand, may require additional technical knowledge or the use of specialized wallets and tools, which can be a barrier for some users, that was I see here.
By popularity and gaining the trust of the community is a way we can trust web2, plus another factor by having an active business here in our forum will bring them more trust than others. The reason could be people still love to use Web 2 casinos is the accessibility and user experience. Web2 casinos often have user-friendly interfaces and intuitive navigation, making them more accessible and convenient for casual users while Web3 casinos, on the other hand, may require additional technical knowledge or the use of specialized wallets and tools, which can be a barrier for some users, that was I see here.
I think that the concept of web3 is still largely undefined and does not have a clear meaning. Yes, the underlying technology of web3, such as blockchain, is designed to be decentralized, but this does not mean that everything that is web3 is also decentralized. There is underlying technology and there are applications or platforms built on top of it. While the technology itself may be decentralized, the actual implementation and use of web3 applications can vary.
June 04, 2023, 12:31:37 AM
Fake web 2.0 casinos? Seriously op? There are a couple of fake crappy ones for sure, but there are many popular web 2.0 sites which are great for gamblers though they do enforce KYC under certain conditions which is a bummer.
If BTC is somehow successfully integrated into web 3.0 platforms, many gamblers will definitely switch thanks to the decentralization aspect.
If BTC is somehow successfully integrated into web 3.0 platforms, many gamblers will definitely switch thanks to the decentralization aspect.
June 03, 2023, 09:15:26 PM
Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.
I just read your comment until page 3, and good, you have the best points I ever heard. And, Yes, agree with you, web3 development is good as the interpretation of blockchain development. But, whatever you explain and post, a forum rule is simple, if you don't have a Bitcoin, you are not on Gambling Board.I don't know why you don't try development to make a Bitcoin deposit, you going here in the Bitcoin forum, of course, if you try to market it here, you must have a Bitcoin, just simple like that. And, if you force (don't have a Bitcoin) and still impose to market here, you are still welcome, the forum is open to anyone (altcoin), and the forum has tolerance, but you have to agree if mod put your thread on the altcoin service board.
June 03, 2023, 05:59:57 PM
Sorry, I just read your topic and want to tell you that your old topic's been moved to the altcoins board because, as a web3 casino, you don't accept bitcoin. Those are the rules and they apply to everyone. Don't take it personally.
I believe, you as part of this web3 casino, should enlighten us about what is the difference between web3 and web3 casinos, then we can argue which one of them is the best.
I'm asking this because most of us still don't know what a web3 casino is all about!
I believe, you as part of this web3 casino, should enlighten us about what is the difference between web3 and web3 casinos, then we can argue which one of them is the best.
I'm asking this because most of us still don't know what a web3 casino is all about!
June 03, 2023, 04:40:57 PM
So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
Read few of the responses and my guess is web2 casinos are the casinos exists right now? Deposit crypto or fiat to their platform, play and if you win then withdraw?The problems with these type of casinos are
[1.] You need to trust the casino management/service that they are not manipulating games
[2.] You need to trust them that they are not holding your fund if you win big
[3.] You need to trust them with your information like KYC and things like that.
But almost all casinos take care of their own business first. Will we say WEB3 casinos can serve better on the above three points?
By popularity and gaining the trust of the community is a way we can trust web2, plus another factor by having an active business here in our forum will bring them more trust than others. The reason could be people still love to use Web 2 casinos is the accessibility and user experience. Web2 casinos often have user-friendly interfaces and intuitive navigation, making them more accessible and convenient for casual users while Web3 casinos, on the other hand, may require additional technical knowledge or the use of specialized wallets and tools, which can be a barrier for some users, that was I see here.
June 03, 2023, 02:36:46 PM
So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
Read few of the responses and my guess is web2 casinos are the casinos exists right now? Deposit crypto or fiat to their platform, play and if you win then withdraw?The problems with these type of casinos are
[1.] You need to trust the casino management/service that they are not manipulating games
[2.] You need to trust them that they are not holding your fund if you win big
[3.] You need to trust them with your information like KYC and things like that.
But almost all casinos take care of their own business first. Will we say WEB3 casinos can serve better on the above three points?
June 03, 2023, 02:00:38 PM
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There’s really some web2 casino that unfair on customers and they can easily do this because they have the full control of the casino. I think he is just trying to emphasize here the main advantage of web3 decentralized casino.
There’s really some web2 casino that unfair on customers and they can easily do this because they have the full control of the casino. I think he is just trying to emphasize here the main advantage of web3 decentralized casino.
Yeah, that's probably it. I also noticed that the OP mentioned "fake" web2 casinos in the title. And you know what? He's not wrong. There are some downright scammy online casinos out there, and they're a real threat to us players. They rig the games, manipulate the odds, and do everything in their power to make sure we lose our money. However, although the concept of web3 casinos, which operate on blockchain technology, may seem promising in terms of transparency and security, it doesn't guarantee that all web3 casinos will be trustworthy or immune to scams. Just like with any other industry, there will always be bad actors looking to exploit vulnerabilities and deceive unsuspecting players. Maybe even more so in this case, because the vast majority of web3 casinos will operate on decentralized platforms and smart contracts, which can introduce a whole new set of risks and challenges. Decentralized exchanges (DEXs), for example, have faced issues such as smart contract vulnerabilities, hacking incidents, and scams. Just as we have seen in the case of DEXs and other decentralized autonomous organizations (DAOs), the risks and challenges associated with web3 casinos can indeed be significant.
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June 03, 2023, 09:25:48 AM
The main factor on gambling: Good platform, easy, can get my money in & out faster, have higher limit withdraw without KYC. Who care about web2/web3, we are gambler just want all these things.
So, even you said web2 is worse. Not for me.
But not only for you that web2 is good. There are many web2 casinos which have good reputation and there are ones that are good too. As long as they are satisfying their customers, they will have good reputation. So, even you said web2 is worse. Not for me.
You are absolutely correct, for me though, I don't think I've seen a web3 casino I can completely trust the same way I atleast, trust on the web2 casino where I gamble, I understand that web3 casinos are trustless, but that can only be if there are no malicious code to hack and syphone funds from a user's wallet to the hackers wallet included in the smart contract.
Seeing that they already replied reasons why it was moved out of the Bitcoin board, there is nothting to add more to it. wBTC is not even considered BTC.
All other coins like wBTC and many of them like that were created because of staking or yield farming or so, they are truly not bitcoin, they are all altcoins which are pegged with bitcoin price.[/quote]
And again, I completely agree with you, wBTC are not real Bitcoins, the same way the price of wBTC is pegged to the price of the original bitcoin, it could also be depegged and liquidity withdrawn, and those who hold wBTC thinking they hold bitcoin will just lose their money.
June 03, 2023, 09:06:30 AM
I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774
So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774
So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
any casino must not beat one another. They just need to be profitable, have enough funds to operate, and apply the system day in and day out. Well probably there is always a competition in any business however, if one wants to thrive, a business vision is already enough. Focusing on their competition will only make them and their operation go in circle as they are minding their competitors business.
As any business would do, customers often go back on a service for two things. It's availability and its speed. Integration of crypto and BTC as part of web3 is ideal. Fast transactions is always the best. Even web3 companies are often decentralized, as long as it is regulated by trusted members, it will do good in the long run. It's always longevity is the key of any business.
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