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Topic: Why do you still want to play fake web2 casinos? Why we choose web3 casinos - page 7. (Read 1119 times)

copper member
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The Web3 Casino You Deserve
I think the answer is fairly simple: web3 casinos aren’t that polished just yet and web2 platforms simply work. If you can point out an example of a web3 casino that works flawlessly that doesn’t have any issues with law enforcement, then that would be great and we might as well try. That’s another reason why Web3 platforms aren’t as popular: they have potential issues with governments due to their nature that’s why people wouldn’t dare risk it.

True, also web3 don't have the trust of the community because most of them are accused of scamming and some are actually scamming their customers. Web3 isn't yet popular because the other existing popular crypto casino hasn't given us a reason not to trust them.

Web3 projects doesn't have a good reputation as they're always under attack by getting breach. The popular ones we had turned out not to be totally decentralized so people are doubting if the web 3 casino coming out are decentralized as they say they're

When decentralization fully takes over the internet and projects are built using trusted blockchain, making their web3 projects trustworthy, they'll begin to get customers making use of their casino but for now we still stick with web 2 that are giving us excellent service.


While I agree with you on some issues, I disagree on some issues. The point I agree with is that unfortunately there is no clear law regarding DAOs yet. Although this makes it difficult for us to obtain a license, we continue to work in this direction.

What I disagree with is the scam. With the exception of a few trusted web2 casinos, almost 95% can easily scam you and justify themselves. Not your keys, not your coin. However, blockchain casinos will never fool you. In Web3 Casinos, no one can ban you, no one can watch you because you are making too much money, no one can take your money, etc. Even if Web3 Casinos are hacked, users will not be harmed, only the bankroll will be damaged. Because the user does not deposit money anywhere. They play through their own wallet.
hero member
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I think the answer is fairly simple: web3 casinos aren’t that polished just yet and web2 platforms simply work. If you can point out an example of a web3 casino that works flawlessly that doesn’t have any issues with law enforcement, then that would be great and we might as well try. That’s another reason why Web3 platforms aren’t as popular: they have potential issues with governments due to their nature that’s why people wouldn’t dare risk it.

True, also web3 don't have the trust of the community because most of them are accused of scamming and some are actually scamming their customers. Web3 isn't yet popular because the other existing popular crypto casino hasn't given us a reason not to trust them.

Web3 projects doesn't have a good reputation as they're always under attack by getting breach. The popular ones we had turned out not to be totally decentralized so people are doubting if the web 3 casino coming out are decentralized as they say they're

When decentralization fully takes over the internet and projects are built using trusted blockchain, making their web3 projects trustworthy, they'll begin to get customers making use of their casino but for now we still stick with web 2 that are giving us excellent service.
copper member
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No, need and I believe other people are the same.

It's most of the time 90% always about the bankroll or policy, people do not really care about WEB2/WEB3. Since your main title thread mentions these, so that's just my 2 cent. It's not first time we see these.

Nothing new in my perspective, in the end (web2 casino) still winning.

When Uniswap first came out, a few people were using it, but it is now trading for billions of dollars. Many perpetual DEXs have appeared, and they are seeing more trading volume than almost any centralized exchange. Time will tell.


The moderators obviously have nothing personal with you or your platform, what they are doing is to keep the forum organized and keep every thread where it belongs, and since you said yourself that people can use wBTC (Wrapped Bitcoin) for gambling on your platform, that makes it an altcoin casino because wBTC is actually an altcoin and not the original Bitcoin.

So I don't see moderators being the bad guy here as they are doing their job, nor do I say that your platform is bad or anything, it is just that they did what should be done. For suggestions, I can't give any as I haven't used your platform yet, will do that once I'm done trying it out anytime soon.


However, there is only one gambling section on the forum. If there are some reasons not to let us use this board, then a separate board can be opened for casinos like us and so we will have a chance to introduce our platforms to players.

legendary
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No, need and I believe other people are the same.

It's most of the time 90% always about the bankroll or policy, people do not really care about WEB2/WEB3. Since your main title thread mentions these, so that's just my 2 cent. It's not first time we see these.

Nothing new in my perspective, in the end (web2 casino) still winning.
hero member
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.

Don't assume they don't like it, you don't know the admins and the administrator of this forum, they are the ones who started decentralization long before you knew a thing about decentralization so don't lecture them about decentralization, there are specific on every section of this forum.

As you can see the majority of casinos here are not smart contract based because they adopt Bitcoin while your platform is not promoting the use of Bitcoin so it's just right that you belong to the altcoin section where smart contract-based platforms are grouped.
sr. member
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Bitcoin was invented to get rid of middlemen. Web3 does exactly that. We are trying to save you from middlemen and make more reliable platforms. So basically we serve the purpose of bitcoin, but since we accept wbtc instead of bitcoin, it's really sad that we can't find a place in this forum. I think they should reconsider on this.
The moderators obviously have nothing personal with you or your platform, what they are doing is to keep the forum organized and keep every thread where it belongs, and since you said yourself that people can use wBTC (Wrapped Bitcoin) for gambling on your platform, that makes it an altcoin casino because wBTC is actually an altcoin and not the original Bitcoin.

So I don't see moderators being the bad guy here as they are doing their job, nor do I say that your platform is bad or anything, it is just that they did what should be done. For suggestions, I can't give any as I haven't used your platform yet, will do that once I'm done trying it out anytime soon.
sr. member
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do well to work on accepting bitcoin as quick as possible

This is another reason to their being unprofessional enough because most standard casinos accept bitcoin, they may decided not to accept other cryptocurrencies but bitcoin is a must for acceptabilities despite if they have their own coin introduced.


Bitcoin is the first priority for every casino because it is a general commodity for all gamblers online. When it comes to funds mostly and commonly used by online gamblers, you think of bitcoin because bitcoin has been there onset from the very first beginning of online gambling and it has been there and would  still remain there and moreover, it is the first cryptocurrency to be acknowledged and accepted as a digital currency before the advent of other crypto currency so therefore, any new generational casino that is thinking of standing without including bitcoin as a means of payment is likely not going anywhere because nobody would look into their way to gamble with them. Justbet should know about this before they doom themselves.

Though we cannot also derived the conclusion on every casino not in support of bitcoin from their platform as a fake one, everyone has their own policy and target but what we make sure to emphasize here is the need to let the fact that most casinos support bitcoin even if they don't accept other cryptocurrencies, and there decision on this begins with how we begin to have take on them wether they are reliable casino or scam, through the indications of what we receives as signals base on their policy and requirements needed on their website.

From their policies, we know how serious a casino is when it comes to customer relations and care. If the policy is too bend to not allowing a free flow between the customer and casino then there is likely a question mark there because there is no how a casino policy would be too bend to not allow customers have their own way about their activities onboard the casino. If that is the contrary is the case then that casino is likely what it is suspected to be and hence they would be called to order in cushioning their activities and policies for a friendly and better environment and interactions.
hero member
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do well to work on accepting bitcoin as quick as possible

This is another reason to their being unprofessional enough because most standard casinos accept bitcoin, they may decided not to accept other cryptocurrencies but bitcoin is a must for acceptabilities despite if they have their own coin introduced.


Bitcoin is the first priority for every casino because it is a general commodity for all gamblers online. When it comes to funds mostly and commonly used by online gamblers, you think of bitcoin because bitcoin has been there onset from the very first beginning of online gambling and it has been there and would  still remain there and moreover, it is the first cryptocurrency to be acknowledged and accepted as a digital currency before the advent of other crypto currency so therefore, any new generational casino that is thinking of standing without including bitcoin as a means of payment is likely not going anywhere because nobody would look into their way to gamble with them. Justbet should know about this before they doom themselves.

Though we cannot also derived the conclusion on every casino not in support of bitcoin from their platform as a fake one, everyone has their own policy and target but what we make sure to emphasize here is the need to let the fact that most casinos support bitcoin even if they don't accept other cryptocurrencies, and there decision on this begins with how we begin to have take on them wether they are reliable casino or scam, through the indications of what we receives as signals base on their policy and requirements needed on their website.
legendary
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The main factor on gambling: Good platform, easy, can get my money in & out faster, have higher limit withdraw without KYC. Who care about web2/web3, we are gambler just want all these things.

So, even you said web2 is worse. Not for me.
But not only for you that web2 is good. There are many web2 casinos which have good reputation and there are ones that are good too. As long as they are satisfying their customers, they will have good reputation.

Seeing that they already replied reasons why it was moved out of the Bitcoin board, there is nothting to add more to it. wBTC is not even considered BTC.
All other coins like wBTC and many of them like that were created because of staking or yield farming or so, they are truly not bitcoin, they are all altcoins which are pegged with bitcoin price.
sr. member
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
Everyone loves decentralization more than centralization on this forum, including the admins, that's not the reason your ANN was moved to the altcoin section by the admins.

Web 2 or web 3 casinos makes no difference to me, every gambling platform that has good looking and fast dashboard is welcome by the people, if withdrawal is instant then your casino will attract even more people, but online gambling is all about how much gamblers can make, is they make less money to none on a web 3 casino do you think they will keep playing because it's web3? They will go back to the old Web2...

If the web 3 has less attractive offers and bonuses, gamblers will go back to the old web 2, this is why I said that it doesn't matter, for gamblers it's about the offers, bonuses and winning experience.
copper member
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What will make you win the decentralization is if you create a browser wallet for Bitcoin to connect to your Justbet and they may move back your thread to the right space.

Seeing that they already replied reasons why it was moved out of the Bitcoin board, there is nothting to add more to it. wBTC is not even considered BTC.



Unfortunately, Bitcoin doesn't support smart contracts so it is not possible at the moment.

I don't care web2, web3 or anything you are called.

The main factor on gambling: Good platform, easy, can get my money in & out faster, have higher limit withdraw without KYC. Who care about web2/web3, we are gambler just want all these things.

So, even you said web2 is worse. Not for me.


Yeah, you're right about it. If we look at the feedback we received from the users, we understand that they like the UI/UX. Apart from that, we need more games to entertain the players and we are working on them. Also, there is no deposit/withdraw things in Web3 Casinos as you're playing directly through your wallet.
hero member
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You don't want to take it against the mods but you're saying they don't like decentralization hehe. Why do you also attack web 2 casinos by calling them unfair and fake? I doubt most players would even consider opening your site with that kind of approach to promote your own.

There are hybrid gambling platforms here that allows connecting personal wallet directly to the casino while also giving players the option to login via email. Maybe try to look at them and see if you could adapt.



That's the next update we are working on it. Account Abstraction is the process of making it easier for users to interact with blockchain by customizing certain elements of smart contract accounts, from fee payment methods to transaction approval mechanisms.

with AA, they will be able to connect with their social accounts, will be able to play without paying fee etc. Step by step

What will make you win the decentralization is if you create a browser wallet for Bitcoin to connect to your Justbet and they may move back your thread to the right space.

Seeing that they already replied reasons why it was moved out of the Bitcoin board, there is nothting to add more to it. wBTC is not even considered BTC.




legendary
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I think a lot of these Web3 casinos are created for money laundering purposes and decentralization are used to make it difficult for the law enforcement agencies to shut them down. 

This is the current perception of people towards the Web3 casinos at the moment, because people seem to think that they are mostly scam sites. It is basically the same with all "new" technologies... and a stage that will pass over time. (Bitcoin went through the same thing, until people realized that it is used more for legit projects)
I think that bitcoin is used for legal payments even to a much greater extent than regular fiat payments.  
Just from a practically scientific experiment, which at some stage of development was used by criminals and scammers, they made such an image of "dirty" money.  And everywhere this information was disseminated as part of opposition from competitors - classical banking structures.  According to banking structures, I think there are orders of magnitude more criminal money, both in cash and in non-cash form.  But the negative image of bitcoin has been successfully created and now, only after many years of challenging this false statement in the public space, will it be possible to neutralize it.  In any case, I do not hope for it.  

Probably the story with WEB 3 will also face the fact that the image of something illegal or even fraudulent will be created.  
But this, as in the case of bitcoin, will be fixed simply based on the experience of using WEB 3 by a large number of people.  Moreover, many of them will not encounter fraud at all and will simply use such a casino or other sites in the WEB 3 system without any problems.
This, of course, is a question that humanity will have to solve for decades.
legendary
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I don't care web2, web3 or anything you are called.

The main factor on gambling: Good platform, easy, can get my money in & out faster, have higher limit withdraw without KYC. Who care about web2/web3, we are gambler just want all these things.

So, even you said web2 is worse. Not for me.
legendary
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I think a lot of these Web3 casinos are created for money laundering purposes and decentralization are used to make it difficult for the law enforcement agencies to shut them down. 

This is the current perception of people towards the Web3 casinos at the moment, because people seem to think that they are mostly scam sites. It is basically the same with all "new" technologies... and a stage that will pass over time. (Bitcoin went through the same thing, until people realized that it is used more for legit projects)
copper member
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You don't want to take it against the mods but you're saying they don't like decentralization hehe. Why do you also attack web 2 casinos by calling them unfair and fake? I doubt most players would even consider opening your site with that kind of approach to promote your own.

There are hybrid gambling platforms here that allows connecting personal wallet directly to the casino while also giving players the option to login via email. Maybe try to look at them and see if you could adapt.



That's the next update we are working on it. Account Abstraction is the process of making it easier for users to interact with blockchain by customizing certain elements of smart contract accounts, from fee payment methods to transaction approval mechanisms.

with AA, they will be able to connect with their social accounts, will be able to play without paying fee etc. Step by step
hero member
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I honestly I would not mind if the forum policies allowed web 3 casinos to be around here as well, but unfortunately this is Bitcoin-talk so Bitcoin needs to be within the topic in questions, whatever it is, otherwise it is moved to the alternative section.

I would not go as far as calling web2 or traditional casinos to be fake or unfair, it is just about having a different concept or market, which you would like to approach as a service provider, still getting a look at your ANN. I almost missed it if not for this thread, btw.
Agreed, even though this is in the gambling section of the forum but at least they also have the use of Bitcoin as one of their main values.

Web2 or traditional casinos are actually not a fake because they had experienced a period of success in their time.
Maybe now a web3 base appears and I believe web3 updates and development will be superior to web2 but for now there is still little trust in web3 so saying the old one is fake is also not fair in my opinion.
legendary
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I honestly I would not mind if the forum policies allowed web 3 casinos to be around here as well, but unfortunately this is Bitcoin-talk so Bitcoin needs to be within the topic in questions, whatever it is, otherwise it is moved to the alternative section.

I would not go as far as calling web2 or traditional casinos to be fake or unfair, it is just about having a different concept or market, which you would like to approach as a service provider, still getting a look at your ANN. I almost missed it if not for this thread, btw.
legendary
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
The only thing you need is to do what you say you will do. There are casinos just like yours that will make a big promise but end up cheating there customers. That alone can spoil your reputation and make gamblers not to choose to use your casino and bet. Provide more games and increase bonuses because that will make more gamblers to want to bet since there are bonuses.

I agree that casinos should avoid big promises they didn't intend to keep just to attract gamblers. I don't believe that in essence casino's have intention to cheat because that will ruin them and their business sooner or later but sometimes they want quick profit and don't mind about fair and legit running of business. But any one of us has always keep in mind the nain reasons that casinos exist is profit in shortest period of time as possible.
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I just want to hear your ideas so we can improve our platform. Thanks to admins, they don't like decentralization and they moved our ANN to altcoin section again.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62314774

So lets discuss here. What do you advise to improve our casino to beat unfair web2 casinos.
The only thing you need is to do what you say you will do. There are casinos just like yours that will make a big promise but end up cheating there customers. That alone can spoil your reputation and make gamblers not to choose to use your casino and bet. Provide more games and increase bonuses because that will make more gamblers to want to bet since there are bonuses.
consumer platforms have their own strategic ways they do use to make their own money so you cannot blame them or saying that they are cheating because you don't know what the bathroom and then kind of metal they use in anything that they do so I don't blend casino platforms
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