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March 07, 2017, 11:54:01 AM
Proof is not preferable to faith? That is magical thinking, of course proof is preferable to faith. When it comes to inspired writings, I think you should read it ALL and then make an informed opinion.

Read the gospel that was left out of the Bible:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j002/

If you are going to read them "ALL", don't forget about the Koran, Bhagavad Gita, The Zohar, et al

P.S. Your "gospel that was left out of the bible" begins with this disclaimer:
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COPYRIGHT POSITION STATEMENT AND DISCLAIMER

The Phoenix Journals are intended as a “real time” commentary on current events

i.e.  They made this shit up... it's not a book that was around 1700+ years ago... sorry, thanks for playing... care to try again?

Those are the 'false Gods' in his view.  He probably believes in the one on the icons in his church.  You know, the blond haired, blue eyed Jew from 2000 years ago.  

All these cooks believe in the Gods they were brought up with.

That is why it is critical to teach our children Math and Science so that they can differentiate what is real and what is not.

quick2learn is pretty close to being a mental case.  Now he is digging up some novels to support his fantasy.

I said read them all and that is what I did, I did not say any of these texts or gods are false. You act like you know how to speak for me; speak for yourself! I went through many phases of belief and disbelief, but you just want to believe that 60+ parapsychological cases that I mentioned did not happen in reality. You are living in a fantasy because the evidence of survival is being dismissed just because you hear it coming from me, so you say it is just a PDF or just a novel instead of realizing that it is evidence suggestive of survival.

As far as the gospels, this one was recorded in ancient times and discovered later; many gospels were left out of the bible, apparently for political reasons.
legendary
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March 07, 2017, 09:45:03 AM

...mental fruitcase talking...

The Bible is complete. Add no more. Take none away.

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If I were you I would take few things away:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crazy-shit-bible-says-crazy-shit-christians-say-1367154


No, you wouldn't. You might do it being who you are. But God absolutely wants you to be saved, and in Heaven with us.

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legendary
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March 07, 2017, 09:09:10 AM
Proof is not preferable to faith? That is magical thinking, of course proof is preferable to faith. When it comes to inspired writings, I think you should read it ALL and then make an informed opinion.

Read the gospel that was left out of the Bible:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j002/

You are now beginning to touch on one of the most important aspects of our relationship with God.

Knowledge of the existence of God is important, because it forms a solid base for us.

Faith in God (in the things He says and does) is important, because God is infinitely greater than we are, and there is no other way to understand the things that He does.

Think about the island peoples of WW1 and WW2. These people had never heard of anything like technology. They lived their simple lives from day to day in ways that had not changed, possibly for centuries.

Then an airplane flew overhead. Then several airplanes flew overhead. The islanders were shocked regarding the magic. Finally, after the airplanes landed on the water, the islanders came to understand that people had made the airplanes, and that these people were as vulnerable to death as they were.

The point? We can't even put a tag on an electron to track it wherever it goes around the world. We can't even do this with a molecule of the wind. We can't even do it with a molecule of the ocean. We barely know how to keep people alive beyond what would be the normal time of death for them. We barely understand the cause and effect of anything.

We would like to say that we have great knowledge. We would like to think that we are so wise. But we don't really have a handle on anything. AND HERE IS THE GREATEST POINT >>> In all our knowledge and understanding, we are so far behind God that the GREAT things He does seem like magic to us. AND WHAT IS EVEN MORE PROFOUND IS >>> We don't even know for sure that the things that God does ARE NOT made up of magic.



John 20:30,31:
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30 Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book.

31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Ecclesiastes 12:12-14:
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12 Be warned, my son, of anything in addition to them. Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.

13 Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.

14 For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.

In other words, the things that are written in the Bible are sufficient for salvation. Salvation is a miracle of God that nobody else can do, or, really, even come close to being able to start doing. Constantly adding books to the Bible detracts from salvation, the whole reason for which the Bible was written in the first place. And adding books just might cause other books to become "outdated" and taken away.

Revelation 22:18,19:
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18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

The Bible is complete. Add no more. Take none away.

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March 07, 2017, 01:03:58 AM
Proof is not preferable to faith? That is magical thinking, of course proof is preferable to faith. When it comes to inspired writings, I think you should read it ALL and then make an informed opinion.

Read the gospel that was left out of the Bible:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j002/

If you are going to read them "ALL", don't forget about the Koran, Bhagavad Gita, The Zohar, et al

P.S. Your "gospel that was left out of the bible" begins with this disclaimer:
Quote
COPYRIGHT POSITION STATEMENT AND DISCLAIMER

The Phoenix Journals are intended as a “real time” commentary on current events

i.e.  They made this shit up... it's not a book that was around 1700+ years ago... sorry, thanks for playing... care to try again?
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March 07, 2017, 12:00:01 AM
Proof is not preferable to faith? That is magical thinking, of course proof is preferable to faith. When it comes to inspired writings, I think you should read it ALL and then make an informed opinion.

Read the gospel that was left out of the Bible:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j002/
legendary
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March 06, 2017, 09:47:54 PM

There are no spirits.  That is the reality.




You assert about "reality", but what about these 40 cases which actually happened in reality?
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml

What "reality-based" explanation do you provide? Oh, I see, you will dismiss these cases as "merely a PDF on some website".
Get a grip, af_newbie! Reality is staring you right in the face!
Why do atheists like to ignore those physical manifestations that suggest the survival of the personality? There are many intriguing examples.
What physical phenomenon? I don't know them. I only know that Jesus was a simple man who was killed by the Romans, but how can we prove his resurrection I don't understand. God is all a fairy tale with no evidence.

That's the trick, isn't it. If you had proof, you wouldn't need faith. Why not? Because you would have knowledge.

But the whole idea of salvation is based on faith. So, you don't really want proof.

However, unlike atheism, we get to have some basic knowledge. We get the eye witness reports of many people who saw Jesus alive after His crucifixion. So, we are not working on blind faith like atheists in their atheism. We have enough evidence to have a basis for faith.

The whole problem of sin in the first place was that Adam and Eve did not believe God. They believed the serpent in the Garden. At least Eve did, and Adam was such a pussy to blindly let her listen to the devil in the serpent. This is part of the reason why we have to have faith in God now. They didn't have it in the Garden like they should have back then. So, we need to be different. We need to have faith in God, now. God requires it to balance out the lack of it in the Garden.

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legendary
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February 23, 2017, 11:51:26 AM
Atheism is also a religion! Atheist believes that there is no God,one hundred percent sure about it, with no evidence,blindly believing in that "truth", just like a religious man but from the opposite pole. The most objective belief would be Agnosticism , Those people are basically saying: How the fuck could I know if there is or there is no God? Why would I even bother with that question? I will see it after I die or I wont see it after I die,I have this life right now and that is what is important and 100 percent sure.
Atheism cannot be a religion. By definition religion is belief in someone else. Atheists deny the existence of God just because there is no evidence that it is. Agnosticism is a lack of opinions. I think it's awful. Such people always become traitors.

The evidence that God exists is this world and universe. Nothing that we or scientists can imagine could create the world and univrse as they exist.

Long ago, science proved that God exists. Many of them didn't like the idea, so they ignored it and attempted to find ways to prove that God doesn't exist. The proof for the existence of God is found in the following links. It is science law and fact that shows that God exists. The links explain how the science works.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380

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Sure.  Take your meds buddy.

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March 06, 2017, 03:17:36 PM
You can demonstrate the existence of an immaterial or discarnate being by using a rhetorical analysis of the source material, just like the exemplary analysis in the paper "The Problen of Seth's Origin", and the 60+ other parapsychological case studies already mentioned.
As for me, if you believe at least bo something, it will be much easier. This psychological moment and just like that it does not explain, but I sometimes overcomes fear for sodeyanom in their lives. I believe, I did not do enough.
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March 06, 2017, 02:21:58 PM

There are no spirits.  That is the reality.




You assert about "reality", but what about these 40 cases which actually happened in reality?
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml

What "reality-based" explanation do you provide? Oh, I see, you will dismiss these cases as "merely a PDF on some website".
Get a grip, af_newbie! Reality is staring you right in the face!
Why do atheists like to ignore those physical manifestations that suggest the survival of the personality? There are many intriguing examples.
What physical phenomenon? I don't know them. I only know that Jesus was a simple man who was killed by the Romans, but how can we prove his resurrection I don't understand. God is all a fairy tale with no evidence.
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March 06, 2017, 01:41:37 PM

There are no spirits.  That is the reality.




You assert about "reality", but what about these 40 cases which actually happened in reality?
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml

What "reality-based" explanation do you provide? Oh, I see, you will dismiss these cases as "merely a PDF on some website".
Get a grip, af_newbie! Reality is staring you right in the face!
Why do atheists like to ignore those physical manifestations that suggest the survival of the personality? There are many intriguing examples.
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March 06, 2017, 01:35:50 PM
You can demonstrate the existence of an immaterial or discarnate being by using a rhetorical analysis of the source material, just like the exemplary analysis in the paper "The Problen of Seth's Origin", and the 60+ other parapsychological case studies already mentioned.
And how can you prove that something immaterial can affect the material. Especially to create something tangible. God is the fruit of a sick imagination. It has nothing to do with common sense.
Just by reading the cases you can prove to yourself that something akin to survival of the personality is taking place, it is the only sensible explanation for the physical manifestations in these cases. How else to explain them?
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March 06, 2017, 01:02:34 PM
You can demonstrate the existence of an immaterial or discarnate being by using a rhetorical analysis of the source material, just like the exemplary analysis in the paper "The Problen of Seth's Origin", and the 60+ other parapsychological case studies already mentioned.
And how can you prove that something immaterial can affect the material. Especially to create something tangible. God is the fruit of a sick imagination. It has nothing to do with common sense.
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March 06, 2017, 12:57:14 PM
You can demonstrate the existence of an immaterial or discarnate being by using a rhetorical analysis of the source material, just like the exemplary analysis in the paper "The Problen of Seth's Origin", and the 60+ other parapsychological case studies already mentioned.
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March 06, 2017, 07:20:22 AM
Reading crap is not interesting. I understand that. If there is a God show his photo. Can not picture, ask the one who communicates with God to show a miracle to live. If you can not do then do not say there is a God and you communicate with him.

Reading crap might not be interesting, but smelling it is distasteful. What are you even talking about?

Since you seem to be setting yourself up as god over God and other people, post a selfie if you want to see a picture of god. In the judgment we will see who the false god is.

God is a Spirit. He doesn't do the selfie thing like you are asking.

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But if God is spirit then tell me how a spirit is able to do something. If God is immaterial how can you prove its existence. Religion is the opium of the people. They tricked him and use as slaves. so I'm an atheist.
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March 06, 2017, 05:52:32 AM
How convenient to claim that all of these case studies are coming from my imagination! A desperate and illogical tactic that will convince no one!
I am not convinced any statement until I personally will not see God. I have the opinion that this does not happen then I will never believe in God. That is why I am an atheist. You could even say that I'm not an atheist, but a realist.

A realist accepts the facts of science and nature as facts. These show and prove that God exists. Atheism is an ostrich religion.

Cool
I don't agree with you. I see no real evidence of the existence of God. Some of the words. I believe that inside you there is faith in God, but the fact that inside you there is a God I don't believe.

Haven't you read:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ?

Simple nature shows us that it is a machine. Mankind is starting to crack the machines of nature to understand how they work. The machines of mankind are so inferior to those of nature that mankind is having a hard time cracking nature. All the machines of mankind have a machine maker. Who made the machines of nature? Only something like God fits. We might have other theories about how the machines of nature came into being, but we have no evidence as strong as the machine-maker evidence.

Besides, science proves that God exists. Read the explanations of how, in the links.

Cool

Please read the above links..... they prove that BADecker's points have been discredited. He is then shown to be delusional.

His entire "proof" is based on assumptions.... nothing more.

Thanks again for helping to strengthen the scientific knowledge in people that God exists, by not being able to refute or rebut it. And the strength is even greater because you say that there is rebuttal, without being able to show any.

Thanks, again.

Cool

I say let people read your crap and make up their own mind.

You belittle people's intelligence by telling them what you want them to believe.

There is enough rebuttal in your posts to prove your delusions.

Thanks for posting them and proving that there is no god.

Sounds absolutely like a good idea to me. Let people read and make up their own mind.

I don't care what people believe. I am simply showing them the knowledge that God exists. You are the one who is trying to keep people from understanding knowledge, by turning your false knowledge into a belief system for them.

Since you can't list any rebuttal and refutation, it doesn't exist.

Thanks again for showing us that God exists, by your insistence that science fact is a belief system.

Cool

But you do care what people believe. You continue to argue the facts and proof of nonexistence. Your actions speak of caring.

Rebuttal has been provided but you fail to accept it. That makes you a fool.

Thanks for proving that your god doesn't exist and you are only following through delusions.
legendary
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February 22, 2017, 02:39:56 PM
legendary
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March 05, 2017, 02:47:31 PM
Reading crap is not interesting. I understand that. If there is a God show his photo. Can not picture, ask the one who communicates with God to show a miracle to live. If you can not do then do not say there is a God and you communicate with him.

Reading crap might not be interesting, but smelling it is distasteful. What are you even talking about?

Since you seem to be setting yourself up as god over God and other people, post a selfie if you want to see a picture of god. In the judgment we will see who the false god is.

God is a Spirit. He doesn't do the selfie thing like you are asking.

Cool
legendary
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March 05, 2017, 02:44:22 PM
How convenient to claim that all of these case studies are coming from my imagination! A desperate and illogical tactic that will convince no one!
I am not convinced any statement until I personally will not see God. I have the opinion that this does not happen then I will never believe in God. That is why I am an atheist. You could even say that I'm not an atheist, but a realist.

A realist accepts the facts of science and nature as facts. These show and prove that God exists. Atheism is an ostrich religion.

Cool
I don't agree with you. I see no real evidence of the existence of God. Some of the words. I believe that inside you there is faith in God, but the fact that inside you there is a God I don't believe.

Haven't you read:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ?

Simple nature shows us that it is a machine. Mankind is starting to crack the machines of nature to understand how they work. The machines of mankind are so inferior to those of nature that mankind is having a hard time cracking nature. All the machines of mankind have a machine maker. Who made the machines of nature? Only something like God fits. We might have other theories about how the machines of nature came into being, but we have no evidence as strong as the machine-maker evidence.

Besides, science proves that God exists. Read the explanations of how, in the links.

Cool

Please read the above links..... they prove that BADecker's points have been discredited. He is then shown to be delusional.

His entire "proof" is based on assumptions.... nothing more.

Thanks again for helping to strengthen the scientific knowledge in people that God exists, by not being able to refute or rebut it. And the strength is even greater because you say that there is rebuttal, without being able to show any.

Thanks, again.

Cool

I say let people read your crap and make up their own mind.

You belittle people's intelligence by telling them what you want them to believe.

There is enough rebuttal in your posts to prove your delusions.

Thanks for posting them and proving that there is no god.

Sounds absolutely like a good idea to me. Let people read and make up their own mind.

I don't care what people believe. I am simply showing them the knowledge that God exists. You are the one who is trying to keep people from understanding knowledge, by turning your false knowledge into a belief system for them.

Since you can't list any rebuttal and refutation, it doesn't exist.

Thanks again for showing us that God exists, by your insistence that science fact is a belief system.

Cool
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March 05, 2017, 10:34:25 AM
Reading crap is not interesting. I understand that. If there is a God show his photo. Can not picture, ask the one who communicates with God to show a miracle to live. If you can not do then do not say there is a God and you communicate with him.
sr. member
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March 05, 2017, 07:37:02 AM
How convenient to claim that all of these case studies are coming from my imagination! A desperate and illogical tactic that will convince no one!
I am not convinced any statement until I personally will not see God. I have the opinion that this does not happen then I will never believe in God. That is why I am an atheist. You could even say that I'm not an atheist, but a realist.

A realist accepts the facts of science and nature as facts. These show and prove that God exists. Atheism is an ostrich religion.

Cool
I don't agree with you. I see no real evidence of the existence of God. Some of the words. I believe that inside you there is faith in God, but the fact that inside you there is a God I don't believe.

Haven't you read:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ?

Simple nature shows us that it is a machine. Mankind is starting to crack the machines of nature to understand how they work. The machines of mankind are so inferior to those of nature that mankind is having a hard time cracking nature. All the machines of mankind have a machine maker. Who made the machines of nature? Only something like God fits. We might have other theories about how the machines of nature came into being, but we have no evidence as strong as the machine-maker evidence.

Besides, science proves that God exists. Read the explanations of how, in the links.

Cool

Please read the above links..... they prove that BADecker's points have been discredited. He is then shown to be delusional.

His entire "proof" is based on assumptions.... nothing more.

Thanks again for helping to strengthen the scientific knowledge in people that God exists, by not being able to refute or rebut it. And the strength is even greater because you say that there is rebuttal, without being able to show any.

Thanks, again.

Cool

I say let people read your crap and make up their own mind.

You belittle people's intelligence by telling them what you want them to believe.

There is enough rebuttal in your posts to prove your delusions.

Thanks for posting them and proving that there is no god.
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