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Quote from: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 03:08:16 PM

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Quote from: v1ryspro on February 04, 2017, 10:46:27 AM

Free people in this world does not exist. I'm an atheist and my mind is free from religious beliefs, but religion fit into our lives by signing a contract with the state. So free from religion in this society to be impossible.

Your atheism is your religion. Check out the definition of religion - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - to see this.

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It didn't say anything about atheism. Your link is about religion

Are you saying that you are not an atheist? Who cares? The fact that you have firmly embedded beliefs within yourself shows that you are religious, and have a personal religion going for yourself. It's in the definition of religion. Take a look. I even gave you the link... even though I wasn't responding to a post of yours. Or are you v1ryspro as well as Gimpeline?

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I'm saying I don't believe. If I don't bereave in Santa, I'm not a Santa follower. I know that Santa doesn't exist, just as your God doesn't exist.
Its not religion, it's logic.

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Quote from: Gimpeline on February 19, 2017, 03:03:01 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 02:58:41 PM

Quote from: v1ryspro on February 04, 2017, 10:46:27 AM

Free people in this world does not exist. I'm an atheist and my mind is free from religious beliefs, but religion fit into our lives by signing a contract with the state. So free from religion in this society to be impossible.

Your atheism is your religion. Check out the definition of religion - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - to see this.

Cool

It didn't say anything about atheism. Your link is about religion

Are you saying that you are not an atheist? Who cares? The fact that you have firmly embedded beliefs within yourself shows that you are religious, and have a personal religion going for yourself. It's in the definition of religion. Take a look. I even gave you the link... even though I wasn't responding to a post of yours. Or are you v1ryspro as well as Gimpeline?

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Quote from: BADecker on February 19, 2017, 02:58:41 PM

Quote from: v1ryspro on February 04, 2017, 10:46:27 AM

Free people in this world does not exist. I'm an atheist and my mind is free from religious beliefs, but religion fit into our lives by signing a contract with the state. So free from religion in this society to be impossible.

Your atheism is your religion. Check out the definition of religion - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - to see this.

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It didn't say anything about atheism. Your link is about religion

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Quote from: BADecker on February 01, 2017, 08:40:10 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on February 01, 2017, 08:16:28 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on February 01, 2017, 11:17:33 AM

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Quote from: Klima on February 01, 2017, 10:28:40 AM

So there is nothing to refute. There is no evidence for the existence of God. Isn't that proof that there is no God and the Bible is lying then that person is not made of clay or you don't know what is in man?

As I said in another post, forget about the bible and religion for a moment. consider pseudo-science that proves ~~God exists~~ nothing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

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You had few typos in your post. I fixed them for you.

I just wanted to thank you again for supporting the proof that God exists. Since you are unable or unwilling to refute or rebut the scientific laws that show that God exists, yet talk against them without rebuttal, you are helping to prove that God exists. And I want to thank you for this. Makes my job much easier.

Cool

Sure thing. Whatever makes you happy. Just stay calm, nice people in white uniforms will come and take you for a walk....

Did you notice that you still haven't rebutted the proof that God exists? Thanks for another post that supports the existence of God.

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I did.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17697392

Thermodynamics 2nd law applies to an isolated system.
Earth is not an isolated system.
Entropy is not the same as complexity.
If you use cause and effect argument, you need to provide a cause for God. God needs a cause or your argument is invalidated.

You've got anything else?

Your God is really the 'unknown'. It is definitely not a blond haired, blue-eyed, English-speaking Jew.

You would not have to 'believe' in something if there was a proof.

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Quote from: v1ryspro on February 04, 2017, 10:46:27 AM

Free people in this world does not exist. I'm an atheist and my mind is free from religious beliefs, but religion fit into our lives by signing a contract with the state. So free from religion in this society to be impossible.

Your atheism is your religion. Check out the definition of religion - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t - to see this.

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Quote from: Trading on February 19, 2017, 07:38:52 AM

Quote from: babsalt1975 on February 02, 2017, 06:28:12 AM

I would suggest that he reads the entire book of John and the other gospels to know the truth about God and his chosen son-Jesus. Later on, read the book of Revelations to find out why his post is a manifestation of the prophecies and what impact it has on his won life.

I read John's gospel, thank you, but I didn't finish the book of revelations. Most of the Bible has "some" historical value, but the Revelations don't.

Actually, the Book of Revelations was just a document picked from many similar others that were excluded from the Bible because were thought to be unorthodox.

There is even a Gospel attributed to Saint Peter, but (surprise!) was excluded from the Bible (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Peter).

That IV century priests thought they had the authority to exclude texts from apostles say much about how human and arbitrary is the content of the Bible.

Perhaps so, but Spirituality itself is not an arbitrary teaching, as shown by scientific volumes like "Reincarnation and Biology" and "Irreducible Mind". And what is arbitrary within the text that I just linked? It is a sound teaching, which is refreshing to read, so do not throw away all inspired texts indiscriminately, they will often have something substantial to teach you; for details on how to do a rhetorical analysis of inspired writing consult the papers "A Field Guide to Critical Thinking", and for an exampe see "The Problem of Seth's Origin". Also you can search for "other speakers" on the Phoenix Project website to read Hatonn's comments.

About Hatonn:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/gch.html

Atheist dogma can only form invalid and circular replies to facts presented by consciousness researchers:
https://www.quora.com/Are-there-any-scientific-proof-of-existence-of-ghosts/answers/33828633/comment/30627732?__snid3__=764974911&__nsrc__=4

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Quote from: BADecker on February 01, 2017, 08:16:28 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on February 01, 2017, 11:17:33 AM

Quote from: BADecker on February 01, 2017, 11:03:19 AM

Quote from: Klima on February 01, 2017, 10:28:40 AM

So there is nothing to refute. There is no evidence for the existence of God. Isn't that proof that there is no God and the Bible is lying then that person is not made of clay or you don't know what is in man?

As I said in another post, forget about the bible and religion for a moment. consider pseudo-science that proves ~~God exists~~ nothing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

You had few typos in your post. I fixed them for you.

I just wanted to thank you again for supporting the proof that God exists. Since you are unable or unwilling to refute or rebut the scientific laws that show that God exists, yet talk against them without rebuttal, you are helping to prove that God exists. And I want to thank you for this. Makes my job much easier.

Cool

Sure thing. Whatever makes you happy. Just stay calm, nice people in white uniforms will come and take you for a walk....

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The still reigning orthodox and conservative clergy and their misled followers may well try to deny, destroy, and accuse as untrue, the text which will be presented, with all possible means, just as they have with many other documents which testified to the actual truth (reference to the books of HENOCH and JEZIHRA, etc). Never heard of them? Of course ye have not--but if ye dig ye shall find of them, for they have been purposely preserved in duplication for the originals have been destroyed that you never hear of them. These aforementioned books were originally placed within the covers of the Holy Bible of which ye dally, then removed intentionally for they were "too truthful". This was done intentionally to preserve the threatened, misleading, false teachings as presented by Earth doctrine hierarchy. Every effort will be put forth to pull this document from publication and circulation--news flash:::: IT WILL NOT WORK THIS TIME.

http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j002/

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Quote from: babsalt1975 on February 02, 2017, 06:28:12 AM

I would suggest that he reads the entire book of John and the other gospels to know the truth about God and his chosen son-Jesus. Later on, read the book of Revelations to find out why his post is a manifestation of the prophecies and what impact it has on his won life.

I read John's gospel, thank you, but I didn't finish the book of revelations. Most of the Bible has "some" historical value, but the Revelations don't.

Actually, the Book of Revelations was just a document picked from many similar others that were excluded from the Bible because were thought to be unorthodox.

There is even a Gospel attributed to Saint Peter, but (surprise!) was excluded from the Bible (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Peter).

That IV century priests thought they had the authority to exclude texts from apostles say much about how human and arbitrary is the content of the Bible.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 01, 2017, 11:03:19 AM

Quote from: Klima on February 01, 2017, 10:28:40 AM

So there is nothing to refute. There is no evidence for the existence of God. Isn't that proof that there is no God and the Bible is lying then that person is not made of clay or you don't know what is in man?

As I said in another post, forget about the bible and religion for a moment. consider pseudo-science that proves ~~God exists~~ nothing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

You had few typos in your post. I fixed them for you.

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Free people in this world does not exist. I'm an atheist and my mind is free from religious beliefs, but religion fit into our lives by signing a contract with the state. So free from religion in this society to be impossible.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 04, 2017, 12:08:22 AM

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Cause and effect show that God put everything into effect. When people set things up so that mutations become abundant in a localized area, they are becoming part of the cause and effect of mutations. God listens to them, and gives them what they ask for, via cause and effect.

Regarding crippled babies, God, being the giving God He is, gives them life even though they are crippled. While you are not a baby, you are an example of the way it works.

God gave you life and everything that you have. You asked for atheism, so God gave you a network of atheists to supply you with the thing you asked for.

While the babies probably didn't ask to be crippled, at least not verbally, they asked for life, and God gave it to them. Think of how great He is that He gives them life in the face of their crippledness.

However, God will give them eternal life, along with the rest of us... since we are ALL way crippled, far from perfection. And, He knows how to judge whether or not they believe in Jesus, so that they can be saved for Heaven, or condemned for Hell... just like He knows how to judge you that way.

However, thank you for upholding the fact that God exists, thereby showing that atheism is false, and a lie.

Cool

If your answer is Cause and Effect.... then what caused God?

You go on about how wonderful your God is to give crippled babies life, but using your argument..... how wonderful your God is to cripple a baby!

God created cause and effect. He doesn't necessarily need to have had anything that caused Him. He always existed.

God made the universe perfect. Then, at the request of the devil and mankind, he caused the imperfection that they asked for. It is in the way that He set things up. So, it is mankind and the devil that crippled babies.

However, thanks for acknowledging that God exists. Now learn about how God is saving us through the sacrifice of Jesus, His Son.

Cool

Now you are going against the principles of cause and effect.

Please come up with another theory how your God is proven true.

I am not going against cause and effect principle. You are just saying that.

I don't have any theories about how God is proven to exist. It is very difficult to have theories like this when you know that He always existed... outside of the universe where cause and effect are the way things operate.

Cool

Wow.... I bet that hurt BADecker.

Congratulations.

You admitted you do not have any theories about how your God is proven to exist.

Therefore, it becomes Faith.

I think it is wonderful you have Faith in something.

Not faith in God's existence. Only faith in what He says and does. Proof for God's existence:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

Now you are being delusional.

Cause and effect do not prove God existence, because you can't prove what caused your God.

Therefore, you have just shown proof that God doesn't exist.

That is the 2nd step.

Keep going Badecker, I know you have it in you to find the truth.

Good, good. We are finally getting onto the same page... sort of. I never said that cause and effect alone prove God to exist. So, we agree on this, finally.

Now, if you will read the rest of the stuff at the links, and put it all together, you will finally understand how science and nature prove that God exists.

Cool

Finally you are moving to the same page that there is No God. Well done.

I have stated all along there is No God and you have just stated we are getting onto the same page. Welcome!

Now if you will open your mind to the reality of the world you will finally be able to say you are Free!!!!!

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Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 11:34:33 PM

Quote from: stats on February 03, 2017, 11:27:27 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 11:16:12 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 10:47:04 PM

Cause and effect show that God put everything into effect. When people set things up so that mutations become abundant in a localized area, they are becoming part of the cause and effect of mutations. God listens to them, and gives them what they ask for, via cause and effect.

Regarding crippled babies, God, being the giving God He is, gives them life even though they are crippled. While you are not a baby, you are an example of the way it works.

God gave you life and everything that you have. You asked for atheism, so God gave you a network of atheists to supply you with the thing you asked for.

While the babies probably didn't ask to be crippled, at least not verbally, they asked for life, and God gave it to them. Think of how great He is that He gives them life in the face of their crippledness.

However, God will give them eternal life, along with the rest of us... since we are ALL way crippled, far from perfection. And, He knows how to judge whether or not they believe in Jesus, so that they can be saved for Heaven, or condemned for Hell... just like He knows how to judge you that way.

However, thank you for upholding the fact that God exists, thereby showing that atheism is false, and a lie.

Cool

If your answer is Cause and Effect.... then what caused God?

You go on about how wonderful your God is to give crippled babies life, but using your argument..... how wonderful your God is to cripple a baby!

God created cause and effect. He doesn't necessarily need to have had anything that caused Him. He always existed.

God made the universe perfect. Then, at the request of the devil and mankind, he caused the imperfection that they asked for. It is in the way that He set things up. So, it is mankind and the devil that crippled babies.

However, thanks for acknowledging that God exists. Now learn about how God is saving us through the sacrifice of Jesus, His Son.

Cool

Now you are going against the principles of cause and effect.

Please come up with another theory how your God is proven true.

I am not going against cause and effect principle. You are just saying that.

I don't have any theories about how God is proven to exist. It is very difficult to have theories like this when you know that He always existed... outside of the universe where cause and effect are the way things operate.

Cool

Wow.... I bet that hurt BADecker.

Congratulations.

You admitted you do not have any theories about how your God is proven to exist.

Therefore, it becomes Faith.

I think it is wonderful you have Faith in something.

Not faith in God's existence. Only faith in what He says and does. Proof for God's existence:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

Now you are being delusional.

Cause and effect do not prove God existence, because you can't prove what caused your God.

Therefore, you have just shown proof that God doesn't exist.

That is the 2nd step.

Keep going Badecker, I know you have it in you to find the truth.

Good, good. We are finally getting onto the same page... sort of. I never said that cause and effect alone prove God to exist. So, we agree on this, finally.

Now, if you will read the rest of the stuff at the links, and put it all together, you will finally understand how science and nature prove that God exists.

Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 11:59:32 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 11:34:33 PM

Quote from: stats on February 03, 2017, 11:27:27 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 11:16:12 PM

Quote from: stats on February 03, 2017, 10:52:06 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 10:47:04 PM

Cause and effect show that God put everything into effect. When people set things up so that mutations become abundant in a localized area, they are becoming part of the cause and effect of mutations. God listens to them, and gives them what they ask for, via cause and effect.

Regarding crippled babies, God, being the giving God He is, gives them life even though they are crippled. While you are not a baby, you are an example of the way it works.

God gave you life and everything that you have. You asked for atheism, so God gave you a network of atheists to supply you with the thing you asked for.

While the babies probably didn't ask to be crippled, at least not verbally, they asked for life, and God gave it to them. Think of how great He is that He gives them life in the face of their crippledness.

However, God will give them eternal life, along with the rest of us... since we are ALL way crippled, far from perfection. And, He knows how to judge whether or not they believe in Jesus, so that they can be saved for Heaven, or condemned for Hell... just like He knows how to judge you that way.

However, thank you for upholding the fact that God exists, thereby showing that atheism is false, and a lie.

Cool

If your answer is Cause and Effect.... then what caused God?

You go on about how wonderful your God is to give crippled babies life, but using your argument..... how wonderful your God is to cripple a baby!

God created cause and effect. He doesn't necessarily need to have had anything that caused Him. He always existed.

God made the universe perfect. Then, at the request of the devil and mankind, he caused the imperfection that they asked for. It is in the way that He set things up. So, it is mankind and the devil that crippled babies.

However, thanks for acknowledging that God exists. Now learn about how God is saving us through the sacrifice of Jesus, His Son.

Cool

Now you are going against the principles of cause and effect.

Please come up with another theory how your God is proven true.

I am not going against cause and effect principle. You are just saying that.

I don't have any theories about how God is proven to exist. It is very difficult to have theories like this when you know that He always existed... outside of the universe where cause and effect are the way things operate.

Cool

Wow.... I bet that hurt BADecker.

Congratulations.

You admitted you do not have any theories about how your God is proven to exist.

Therefore, it becomes Faith.

I think it is wonderful you have Faith in something.

Not faith in God's existence. Only faith in what He says and does. Proof for God's existence:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

Now you are being delusional.

Cause and effect do not prove God existence, because you can't prove what caused your God.

Therefore, you have just shown proof that God doesn't exist.

That is the 2nd step.

Keep going Badecker, I know you have it in you to find the truth.

BADecker

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Quote from: stats on February 03, 2017, 11:46:06 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 11:34:33 PM

Quote from: stats on February 03, 2017, 11:27:27 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 11:16:12 PM

Quote from: stats on February 03, 2017, 10:52:06 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 10:47:04 PM

Cause and effect show that God put everything into effect. When people set things up so that mutations become abundant in a localized area, they are becoming part of the cause and effect of mutations. God listens to them, and gives them what they ask for, via cause and effect.

Regarding crippled babies, God, being the giving God He is, gives them life even though they are crippled. While you are not a baby, you are an example of the way it works.

God gave you life and everything that you have. You asked for atheism, so God gave you a network of atheists to supply you with the thing you asked for.

While the babies probably didn't ask to be crippled, at least not verbally, they asked for life, and God gave it to them. Think of how great He is that He gives them life in the face of their crippledness.

However, God will give them eternal life, along with the rest of us... since we are ALL way crippled, far from perfection. And, He knows how to judge whether or not they believe in Jesus, so that they can be saved for Heaven, or condemned for Hell... just like He knows how to judge you that way.

However, thank you for upholding the fact that God exists, thereby showing that atheism is false, and a lie.

Cool

If your answer is Cause and Effect.... then what caused God?

You go on about how wonderful your God is to give crippled babies life, but using your argument..... how wonderful your God is to cripple a baby!

God created cause and effect. He doesn't necessarily need to have had anything that caused Him. He always existed.

God made the universe perfect. Then, at the request of the devil and mankind, he caused the imperfection that they asked for. It is in the way that He set things up. So, it is mankind and the devil that crippled babies.

However, thanks for acknowledging that God exists. Now learn about how God is saving us through the sacrifice of Jesus, His Son.

Cool

Now you are going against the principles of cause and effect.

Please come up with another theory how your God is proven true.

I am not going against cause and effect principle. You are just saying that.

I don't have any theories about how God is proven to exist. It is very difficult to have theories like this when you know that He always existed... outside of the universe where cause and effect are the way things operate.

Cool

Wow.... I bet that hurt BADecker.

Congratulations.

You admitted you do not have any theories about how your God is proven to exist.

Therefore, it becomes Faith.

I think it is wonderful you have Faith in something.

Not faith in God's existence. Only faith in what He says and does. Proof for God's existence:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 11:34:33 PM

Quote from: stats on February 03, 2017, 11:27:27 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 11:16:12 PM

Quote from: stats on February 03, 2017, 10:52:06 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 10:47:04 PM

Cause and effect show that God put everything into effect. When people set things up so that mutations become abundant in a localized area, they are becoming part of the cause and effect of mutations. God listens to them, and gives them what they ask for, via cause and effect.

Regarding crippled babies, God, being the giving God He is, gives them life even though they are crippled. While you are not a baby, you are an example of the way it works.

God gave you life and everything that you have. You asked for atheism, so God gave you a network of atheists to supply you with the thing you asked for.

While the babies probably didn't ask to be crippled, at least not verbally, they asked for life, and God gave it to them. Think of how great He is that He gives them life in the face of their crippledness.

However, God will give them eternal life, along with the rest of us... since we are ALL way crippled, far from perfection. And, He knows how to judge whether or not they believe in Jesus, so that they can be saved for Heaven, or condemned for Hell... just like He knows how to judge you that way.

However, thank you for upholding the fact that God exists, thereby showing that atheism is false, and a lie.

Cool

If your answer is Cause and Effect.... then what caused God?

You go on about how wonderful your God is to give crippled babies life, but using your argument..... how wonderful your God is to cripple a baby!

God created cause and effect. He doesn't necessarily need to have had anything that caused Him. He always existed.

God made the universe perfect. Then, at the request of the devil and mankind, he caused the imperfection that they asked for. It is in the way that He set things up. So, it is mankind and the devil that crippled babies.

However, thanks for acknowledging that God exists. Now learn about how God is saving us through the sacrifice of Jesus, His Son.

Cool

Now you are going against the principles of cause and effect.

Please come up with another theory how your God is proven true.

I am not going against cause and effect principle. You are just saying that.

I don't have any theories about how God is proven to exist. It is very difficult to have theories like this when you know that He always existed... outside of the universe where cause and effect are the way things operate.

Cool

Wow.... I bet that hurt BADecker.

Congratulations.

You admitted you do not have any theories about how your God is proven to exist.

Therefore, it becomes Faith.

I think it is wonderful you have Faith in something.

BADecker

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Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 10:47:04 PM

Cause and effect show that God put everything into effect. When people set things up so that mutations become abundant in a localized area, they are becoming part of the cause and effect of mutations. God listens to them, and gives them what they ask for, via cause and effect.

Regarding crippled babies, God, being the giving God He is, gives them life even though they are crippled. While you are not a baby, you are an example of the way it works.

God gave you life and everything that you have. You asked for atheism, so God gave you a network of atheists to supply you with the thing you asked for.

While the babies probably didn't ask to be crippled, at least not verbally, they asked for life, and God gave it to them. Think of how great He is that He gives them life in the face of their crippledness.

However, God will give them eternal life, along with the rest of us... since we are ALL way crippled, far from perfection. And, He knows how to judge whether or not they believe in Jesus, so that they can be saved for Heaven, or condemned for Hell... just like He knows how to judge you that way.

However, thank you for upholding the fact that God exists, thereby showing that atheism is false, and a lie.

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If your answer is Cause and Effect.... then what caused God?

You go on about how wonderful your God is to give crippled babies life, but using your argument..... how wonderful your God is to cripple a baby!

God created cause and effect. He doesn't necessarily need to have had anything that caused Him. He always existed.

God made the universe perfect. Then, at the request of the devil and mankind, he caused the imperfection that they asked for. It is in the way that He set things up. So, it is mankind and the devil that crippled babies.

However, thanks for acknowledging that God exists. Now learn about how God is saving us through the sacrifice of Jesus, His Son.

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Now you are going against the principles of cause and effect.

Please come up with another theory how your God is proven true.

I am not going against cause and effect principle. You are just saying that.

I don't have any theories about how God is proven to exist. It is very difficult to have theories like this when you know that He always existed... outside of the universe where cause and effect are the way things operate.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 11:16:12 PM

Quote from: stats on February 03, 2017, 10:52:06 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 03, 2017, 10:47:04 PM

Cause and effect show that God put everything into effect. When people set things up so that mutations become abundant in a localized area, they are becoming part of the cause and effect of mutations. God listens to them, and gives them what they ask for, via cause and effect.

Regarding crippled babies, God, being the giving God He is, gives them life even though they are crippled. While you are not a baby, you are an example of the way it works.

God gave you life and everything that you have. You asked for atheism, so God gave you a network of atheists to supply you with the thing you asked for.

While the babies probably didn't ask to be crippled, at least not verbally, they asked for life, and God gave it to them. Think of how great He is that He gives them life in the face of their crippledness.

However, God will give them eternal life, along with the rest of us... since we are ALL way crippled, far from perfection. And, He knows how to judge whether or not they believe in Jesus, so that they can be saved for Heaven, or condemned for Hell... just like He knows how to judge you that way.

However, thank you for upholding the fact that God exists, thereby showing that atheism is false, and a lie.

Cool

If your answer is Cause and Effect.... then what caused God?

You go on about how wonderful your God is to give crippled babies life, but using your argument..... how wonderful your God is to cripple a baby!

God created cause and effect. He doesn't necessarily need to have had anything that caused Him. He always existed.

God made the universe perfect. Then, at the request of the devil and mankind, he caused the imperfection that they asked for. It is in the way that He set things up. So, it is mankind and the devil that crippled babies.

However, thanks for acknowledging that God exists. Now learn about how God is saving us through the sacrifice of Jesus, His Son.

Cool

Now you are going against the principles of cause and effect.

Please come up with another theory how your God is proven true.

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