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legendary
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February 01, 2017, 08:40:10 PM
So there is nothing to refute. There is no evidence for the existence of God. Isn't that proof that there is no God and the Bible is lying then that person is not made of clay or you don't know what is in man?

As I said in another post, forget about the bible and religion for a moment. consider pseudo-science that proves God exists nothing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

You had few typos in your post. I fixed them for you.

I just wanted to thank you again for supporting the proof that God exists. Since you are unable or unwilling to refute or rebut the scientific laws that show that God exists, yet talk against them without rebuttal, you are helping to prove that God exists. And I want to thank you for this. Makes my job much easier.

Cool

Sure thing. Whatever makes you happy.  Just stay calm, nice people in white uniforms will come and take you for a walk....

Did you notice that you still haven't rebutted the proof that God exists? Thanks for another post that supports the existence of God.

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legendary
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February 01, 2017, 08:16:28 PM
So there is nothing to refute. There is no evidence for the existence of God. Isn't that proof that there is no God and the Bible is lying then that person is not made of clay or you don't know what is in man?

As I said in another post, forget about the bible and religion for a moment. consider pseudo-science that proves God exists nothing:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool

You had few typos in your post. I fixed them for you.

I just wanted to thank you again for supporting the proof that God exists. Since you are unable or unwilling to refute or rebut the scientific laws that show that God exists, yet talk against them without rebuttal, you are helping to prove that God exists. And I want to thank you for this. Makes my job much easier.

Cool
legendary
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February 01, 2017, 11:03:19 AM
So there is nothing to refute. There is no evidence for the existence of God. Isn't that proof that there is no God and the Bible is lying then that person is not made of clay or you don't know what is in man?

As I said in another post, forget about the bible and religion for a moment. consider science that proves God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool
sr. member
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February 01, 2017, 10:28:40 AM
So there is nothing to refute. There is no evidence for the existence of God. Isn't that proof that there is no God and the Bible is lying then that person is not made of clay or you don't know what is in man?
legendary
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February 01, 2017, 10:24:59 AM
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February 01, 2017, 03:52:53 AM
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January 31, 2017, 10:23:17 PM

Here's an experiment in random for you BADecker, grab a set of Lego blocks, as many shapes, colours and sizes as you can and place them in front of you. Now close your eyes and grab any two pieces and join them together with your eyes still shut. With your eyes still closed, feel around and grab another piece and join it to the connected pieces, repeat as many times as you feel like.

What is the result? Could you have predicted the outcome of colour and shape even though you were the direct cause?

While there is probably a limit to the number of cause and effect actions that caused the Legos to lie in the exact places that they exist it, that number is fantastically great... way beyond understanding by mankind.

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You should be in politics with question side stepping skills like this.

Actually, the question sidesteps itself. There is no random. There is only inability to observe cause and effect in detail. The question is not a real question. At best, it is a play question.

Even if I am asked a question, where is the requirement that I answer it? How much less when the question is as nonsensical as the one asked?

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How does "Could you have predicted the outcome of colour and shape even though you were the direct cause?" sidestep itself? Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Not a real question! What does that even mean Huh Even a rhetorical question is still a real question.

I agree, there is no binding arrangement that forces you to answer anything asked of you, but given that you went to the trouble to reply it would make sense to at least try and answer rather than dance around it.
legendary
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January 31, 2017, 09:10:56 PM
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January 31, 2017, 08:47:26 PM
legendary
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January 31, 2017, 08:32:55 PM

First, the only argument that I might have is that I don't have any arguments.

Second, anyone who doesn't accept the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, might have a hard time understanding the proof of the real God. Anybody who accepts the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, knows about the real God in his heart, even though he might not acknowledge Him.

Cool

Or basically mumbo jumbo mumbo jumbo mah god iz d rl god

I was just doing a seminar on Sumerian deities, and went across Enki instructing Atrahasis to build an arc to save people from a terrible flood
1000 years before Moses

Moses just didn't have Enlil making the flood because he couldn't bear peoples noise (it prevented him from sleeping)

Rewriting old stories can be found throughout the bible

Sumerian dating is off. The earth is only about 6,000 to 6,200 years old. http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm

Cool

Why don't you tattoo "6000 years old Earth" to your forehead?  Why are you keep saying it?  To convince yourself perhaps.

So if Earth is 6000 years old then the Stone Age did not happen, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic

You guys are worse than Neo-Nazis in re-writing human history.


It would be way more appropriate if you tattooed "stone age" to your forehead, since you are unwilling to look at the fact that stone age is simply some made-up stuff by some scientists(?).

You say it happened because you want it to have happened that way. That's all the truth and backing you have for it. Even your own people say this in their papers. But the Bible record, which is essentially a miracle in its existence, you want to ignore.

You jokers are way out of touch with reality.

Cool

EDIT: If you ever wanted to get serious, you would recognize that God exists. You haven't been able to rebut the laws that I show. Rather, you talk all around it. The laws of the universe show that Something as great as God is what made the universe.

So you think scientists make things up?  Why?  Because they are evil and want to destroy your Osiris fairy tale?

The physical artifacts of Stone Age cultures are all over the world.

You are deluded.


What?! You don't think that scientists make stuff up? Haven't you ever see science theories? They are all over the place. What do you think science theories are? Facts?? You seem to want to ignore the obvious that is right in front of you.

The Stone Age people are all over the world here and there, still using stones. There never was a time when the Stone Age did not exist. The problem lies in the way that many scientists describe the Stone Age... a ficticious way.

Why are you trying to ignore part of the facts, and trying to replace them with things that are not facts? Is it because that is what many scientists do... and the universities, and the media?

Cool

I think you are right.  You are an excellent example.
legendary
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January 27, 2017, 10:28:37 PM

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

Cool

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler..NOPE..

SOUND OF THUNDER..Started all the god stories..

Just think weather is to blame for quite a lot of things..Even the way we look..

Way back, in the beginning of history times, people were intelligent enough, before all the devolution that has set in today
, to understand what God was saying when He spoke with His voice of thunder.

Cool

Are you sure? They were riding donkeys and living in caves.  Believing in Osiris (aka Jesus) etc.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 31, 2017, 07:21:43 PM

First, the only argument that I might have is that I don't have any arguments.

Second, anyone who doesn't accept the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, might have a hard time understanding the proof of the real God. Anybody who accepts the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, knows about the real God in his heart, even though he might not acknowledge Him.

Cool

Or basically mumbo jumbo mumbo jumbo mah god iz d rl god

I was just doing a seminar on Sumerian deities, and went across Enki instructing Atrahasis to build an arc to save people from a terrible flood
1000 years before Moses

Moses just didn't have Enlil making the flood because he couldn't bear peoples noise (it prevented him from sleeping)

Rewriting old stories can be found throughout the bible

Sumerian dating is off. The earth is only about 6,000 to 6,200 years old. http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm

Cool

Why don't you tattoo "6000 years old Earth" to your forehead?  Why are you keep saying it?  To convince yourself perhaps.

So if Earth is 6000 years old then the Stone Age did not happen, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic

You guys are worse than Neo-Nazis in re-writing human history.


It would be way more appropriate if you tattooed "stone age" to your forehead, since you are unwilling to look at the fact that stone age is simply some made-up stuff by some scientists(?).

You say it happened because you want it to have happened that way. That's all the truth and backing you have for it. Even your own people say this in their papers. But the Bible record, which is essentially a miracle in its existence, you want to ignore.

You jokers are way out of touch with reality.

Cool

EDIT: If you ever wanted to get serious, you would recognize that God exists. You haven't been able to rebut the laws that I show. Rather, you talk all around it. The laws of the universe show that Something as great as God is what made the universe.

So you think scientists make things up?  Why?  Because they are evil and want to destroy your Osiris fairy tale?

The physical artifacts of Stone Age cultures are all over the world.

You are deluded.


What?! You don't think that scientists make stuff up? Haven't you ever see science theories? They are all over the place. What do you think science theories are? Facts?? You seem to want to ignore the obvious that is right in front of you.

The Stone Age people are all over the world here and there, still using stones. There never was a time when the Stone Age did not exist. The problem lies in the way that many scientists describe the Stone Age... a ficticious way.

Why are you trying to ignore part of the facts, and trying to replace them with things that are not facts? Is it because that is what many scientists do... and the universities, and the media?

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 31, 2017, 03:51:05 PM

First, the only argument that I might have is that I don't have any arguments.

Second, anyone who doesn't accept the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, might have a hard time understanding the proof of the real God. Anybody who accepts the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, knows about the real God in his heart, even though he might not acknowledge Him.

Cool

Or basically mumbo jumbo mumbo jumbo mah god iz d rl god

I was just doing a seminar on Sumerian deities, and went across Enki instructing Atrahasis to build an arc to save people from a terrible flood
1000 years before Moses

Moses just didn't have Enlil making the flood because he couldn't bear peoples noise (it prevented him from sleeping)

Rewriting old stories can be found throughout the bible

Sumerian dating is off. The earth is only about 6,000 to 6,200 years old. http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm

Cool

Why don't you tattoo "6000 years old Earth" to your forehead?  Why are you keep saying it?  To convince yourself perhaps.

So if Earth is 6000 years old then the Stone Age did not happen, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic

You guys are worse than Neo-Nazis in re-writing human history.


It would be way more appropriate if you tattooed "stone age" to your forehead, since you are unwilling to look at the fact that stone age is simply some made-up stuff by some scientists(?).

You say it happened because you want it to have happened that way. That's all the truth and backing you have for it. Even your own people say this in their papers. But the Bible record, which is essentially a miracle in its existence, you want to ignore.

You jokers are way out of touch with reality.

Cool

EDIT: If you ever wanted to get serious, you would recognize that God exists. You haven't been able to rebut the laws that I show. Rather, you talk all around it. The laws of the universe show that Something as great as God is what made the universe.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 31, 2017, 02:23:08 PM

First, the only argument that I might have is that I don't have any arguments.

Second, anyone who doesn't accept the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, might have a hard time understanding the proof of the real God. Anybody who accepts the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, knows about the real God in his heart, even though he might not acknowledge Him.

Cool

Or basically mumbo jumbo mumbo jumbo mah god iz d rl god

I was just doing a seminar on Sumerian deities, and went across Enki instructing Atrahasis to build an arc to save people from a terrible flood
1000 years before Moses

Moses just didn't have Enlil making the flood because he couldn't bear peoples noise (it prevented him from sleeping)

Rewriting old stories can be found throughout the bible

Sumerian dating is off. The earth is only about 6,000 to 6,200 years old. http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm

Cool
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
January 31, 2017, 02:11:58 PM

First, the only argument that I might have is that I don't have any arguments.

Second, anyone who doesn't accept the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, might have a hard time understanding the proof of the real God. Anybody who accepts the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, knows about the real God in his heart, even though he might not acknowledge Him.

Cool

Or basically mumbo jumbo mumbo jumbo mah god iz d rl god

I was just doing a seminar on Sumerian deities, and went across Enki instructing Atrahasis to build an arc to save people from a terrible flood
1000 years before Moses

Moses just didn't have Enlil making the flood because he couldn't bear peoples noise (it prevented him from sleeping)

Rewriting old stories can be found throughout the bible
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
January 31, 2017, 01:54:56 PM
legendary
Activity: 3906
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January 31, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
Nice read, I used to think I was an atheist, but now I think I am more of an agnostic

It's about time that ALL the adamant atheists get their heads screwed on straight, and realize that there isn't really any atheism. Not until they know for an absolute fact that God does not exist can there be any atheism. If they only say that they believe God to not exist, they are ignoring the big part of themselves that is ignorant of nearly 100% of the things that go on in the universe... to say nothing about the not-understandable "stuff" that is outside the universe. God might exist therein.

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legendary
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January 31, 2017, 01:46:30 PM
legendary
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January 27, 2017, 04:40:05 PM

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

Cool

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became


There is a good book on the subject.

https://www.amazon.com/Sapiens-Humankind-Yuval-Noah-Harari/dp/0062316095/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485553120&sr=8-1&keywords=human+history

Written by a historian.
legendary
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January 31, 2017, 01:45:11 PM
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