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I think you should know that your ISP can track your online activities and they know if you are visiting gambling sites on your cell phone and computer. They can give this data to the government anytime if they feel like or if the government demands it. So i hope you are using a paid VPN and you know all the tips and tricks to hide your identity online. It's still not safe to play gambling online if the government had banned it already.

luckily I still haven't had a problem even though I only use cloudflare VPN when opening crypto gambling sites through my smartphone and laptop

I know for sure that my online activities have the potential to be tracked, but because I only use small capital, the authorities don't really care lol

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 29, 2022, 03:55:46 AM

You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

To know about the numbers it is not necessary to wait for the government to make the gamble illegal. There are many countries where the government banned bitcoins but people still play there. Check how many people are accessing gambling sites from those countries.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 29, 2022, 03:55:46 AM

You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

let's be honest here, I would still gamble, and the majority of gamblers will do the same, especially addicts, I would ignore that law but I have to be careful, I gble with just what I can afford do I know it's not harming me, but if things were too tight and the government started taking serious actions I might avoid it and stop gambling.

It would be indeed difficult for gambling addicts to stop gambling if the government puts a law against gambling. The only way these people will stop if a few of them are being punished for gambling and the rest will get some lessons from it. Otherwise, you cannot stop people from gambling when it is easy to access online gambling without disclosing your identity.

Caught some gamblers, give them severe punishment and this will create fear in the mind of gamblers and then people may not access gambling. That's the only way i see to have a control on gambling.

Intelligent gamblers may still use VPN and play at non kyc casinos and may never get caught. However, I agree with you that it is impossible to stop gamblers from gambling. The addiction is so strong that they will continue to gamble and take whatever risks they can but they won't leave gambling.

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Quote from: coinerer on October 01, 2022, 11:33:35 PM

Gambling is still considered illegal in many countries. But many citizens of that country are gambling. No government can control it. In this case, the government of many countries have restrict those gambling sites, but users are still gambling using VPN. If someone enjoys gambling then no one can stop him. And if one thinks that he will not gamble, that too depends on himself. In this case whatever a gambler himself thinks best will be effective.

I think it only depends on the people when they are addicted to these games because if they do, they always look for a way to play, and just like what we have seen in the pandemics, others are still into cockfighting in the place where the cops don't see them and you find it so funny when they are about to be caught.

You can watch it here and look how desperate they are to do what they are addicted to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_llVUl27EAk&ab_channel=LakingBukidMixVlog

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 29, 2022, 03:55:46 AM

You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

Governments can also ban some websites, but it is possible to access banned sites through VPN. The same goes for online casinos. Although governments want to ban them, users will try to reach them somehow. Such prohibitions only work for a short time. Once people find a way to circumvent the bans, they don't make any sense. If the government bans online casinos, I guess I'll look for a way to circumvent the ban.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on October 01, 2022, 10:45:32 PM

- We know that something that we are used to is still prohibited, but we will do and we will still find a way to accomplish what our body and passion are used to.

They say it's good to do what is forbidden hehe. So there is no country where even if it is prohibited, there is no illegal happening, but all countries have illegal happenings, the fact is that at some point it will never be solved because the individual is the one who makes the way to do it.

People may still play gambling even though there is a ban from the government because they have been gambling for too long and can't stop immediately.
Although they can stop when the new regulations are applied in their country, it does not guarantee that those who are used to gambling will be able to stop immediately.
Maybe they will continue to gamble online because we have seen that many online casinos provide many gambling games for them.
Maybe this needs a different approach from the government and socializing it to its citizens so that citizens can understand the dangers of gambling addiction.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 29, 2022, 03:55:46 AM

You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

Gambling is still considered illegal in many countries. But many citizens of that country are gambling. No government can control it. In this case, the government of many countries have restrict those gambling sites, but users are still gambling using VPN. If someone enjoys gambling then no one can stop him. And if one thinks that he will not gamble, that too depends on himself. In this case whatever a gambler himself thinks best will be effective.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 29, 2022, 03:55:46 AM

You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

let's be honest here, I would still gamble, and the majority of gamblers will do the same, especially addicts, I would ignore that law but I have to be careful, I gble with just what I can afford do I know it's not harming me, but if things were too tight and the government started taking serious actions I might avoid it and stop gambling.

If the law was not giving disadvantage to the gamblers and you can ignore it but it the law will able to make you being jailed and then you must be careful. The implementation law for gambling is different in any territorial. The only problem is when government become even stricter with gambling from time to the another time. The addiction being considered seriously by the government. that's why some government has been implementing some ban to the gambling.
I think that this depends on the situation in any countries. The fact that any countries have different perspective about gambling.

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- We know that something that we are used to is still prohibited, but we will do and we will still find a way to accomplish what our body and passion are used to.

They say it's good to do what is forbidden hehe. So there is no country where even if it is prohibited, there is no illegal happening, but all countries have illegal happenings, the fact is that at some point it will never be solved because the individual is the one who makes the way to do it.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 29, 2022, 03:55:46 AM

You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

Does gambling threaten the stability of the country and have an impact on war? certainly not

Aren't rules made to be broken? After all, such a rule does not apply to anyone when they have done it before the rule was made, the answer is yes we will definitely break it. Gambling is prohibited if you are a state employee holding finances and using state special, social assistance funds to gamble then it is not allowed. But when the money comes from our wallets and comes from our own hard work who can forbid it? As long as it doesn't harm others, then do it. The most important thing is that we always accept the risk of every action we gamble.

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Gambling is already a punishable offense in my country. And if anyone openly gambles offline then the police arrest him. However, there are many gamblers in our country who gamble secretly and online gambling platforms are very popular for them because here they can gamble secretly at home. So I think those who love gambling will go through all the government hurdles and continue gambling secretly.

I don't think it could be a good thing that gamble secretly by ignoring the rule of government. Even then they are getting punished for doing this so it is also a risky thing to doing and what you are saying about playing gamble is good not looking good think we saw only 10\9 in so it will be better if you are follow they rules of your country .

Gambling is always risky for money and mind. but Those who love gambling do not care for it. Because gamblers are equivalent to a madman. If someone goes to give them good advice, they misunderstand and behave abnormally . So they do not hesitate to gamble even under the eyes of the government

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 29, 2022, 03:55:46 AM

You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

let's be honest here, I would still gamble, and the majority of gamblers will do the same, especially addicts, I would ignore that law but I have to be careful, I gble with just what I can afford do I know it's not harming me, but if things were too tight and the government started taking serious actions I might avoid it and stop gambling.

It would be indeed difficult for gambling addicts to stop gambling if the government puts a law against gambling. The only way these people will stop if a few of them are being punished for gambling and the rest will get some lessons from it. Otherwise, you cannot stop people from gambling when it is easy to access online gambling without disclosing your identity.

Caught some gamblers, give them severe punishment and this will create fear in the mind of gamblers and then people may not access gambling. That's the only way i see to have a control on gambling.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 29, 2022, 03:55:46 AM

You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

Like medicine to the body so is gambling to a core gambler. Someone like me there could only be some limits at the rate to which I go on gambling due to the restrictions but the law doesn't stand a chance in stopping me completely from gamblers as long as online gambling sites exist.
Anything that gives me fun and expectations for profit am not sure I'll abandon it for sake of any law as long as am not causing harm to my next neighbor..

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 29, 2022, 04:27:45 AM

At the start of the implementation of the new law, I might stop gambling. Normally, the strictest phase of policy implementation is when it is newly released. So I probably would cease from gambling. But as soon as I observe among other gamblers that they are freely gambling online without the authorities even noticing them, I might also try. But if I see that those who are violating the law by moving into online gambling are penalized, I might as well stop gambling for good.

The fact that it’s now become illegal in your country and continuing gambling would bring you into jail, I guess there’s no reason to gamble anymore even if you say online gambling is not that tight. For me, better to stop early than feel sorry in the end. However, this is not the reality now when it comes to gambling. Gambling is widely accepted today and some high personalities are even engaging in gambling. Like in lottery, those who will hit the jackpot price will always be acknowledged but of course their personal identity will never be reveal.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 29, 2022, 03:55:46 AM

You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

Do not forget that there is always a consequences for every action we take whether it is a positive one or negative. Going against the law cam be so easy for us but if we are eventually caught, we might regret our actions and pay with severe loses. I think I will have to respect myself and stick to the law although it will not be that easy for me to leave gambling like that but everything takes time and how our might is prepared.
There are other forms whereby we can get things done without breaking the law in an obvious way but all depends on how we see everything about gambling.

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Quote from: Mahanton on October 01, 2022, 04:40:45 PM

There's no way of stopping it specially when you are already get addicted to it and also just like on other things such as vices like alcohol and cigarette which even if it would really be banned
then for sure people would be finding a way on exploiting out as long they could able to get one and cater out their addiction.Same goes with gambling which people could really make out dealings right away
considering that accessibility and easy way on engaging on online things is simple.You do need some device and then internet then you're good to go.High chance that you wont really be that getting
caught and since we do have that VPN then it do really make things even more easier and thats why its totally not 100% that people could be stopped.

Well being addicted is another story. If a person is already a gambling addict, no matter how the government strictly implement a gambling ban, that addicted person will find ways to gamble because he already has the uncontrolled urge to gamble.

And now with the internet, this person can easily bypass the government ISP restriction through the use of VPN as what you stated. It is really complicated and hard for the government to trace people especially when the government lack resources and skilled personnel to do the tracing or tracking task.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 29, 2022, 03:55:46 AM

You are a core gambler,I mean you have a reserved or particular time that you use in gambling everyday, just the way some of us are,we even add gambling expenses to our monthly budget because we gamble to entertain ourselves.
A new government came into power, and enacted a law that nobody should gamble anymore in the country i.e gambling becomes illegal. Will you just behave yourself and abide to this new law that is depriving you from having fun as a good citizen ? or will you ignore the law and keep on gambling since there are online casinos that you can gamble secretly with your mobile phones with out no one knowing ?

I don't want to violate the laws in any way so my take will be changing the mind and go for other entertainment options or fight legally to bring back with valid reason why it shouldn't be banned in your country.

And you have wrong thoughts about online casinos, every legal casinos will not allow people from banned country in their casinos and you can clearly see which country residents are restricted from using their services in their terms of service. If you are still gambling you are also violating the terms of casino and your funds are under risk as well.

Any violation would come up with consequences and its no brainer that you would really be definitely be penalize once you do get caught but if deep inside you do know that
they cant just easily catch you and you are that too addicted with gambling then pretty sure, you would just simply play anytime you do want and everywhere you do like.
Changing up someones mindset when it comes to gambling will vary on the level of addiction that you do have.If you do really have that kind of emotion
where you do need to play badly then you would definitely push through it.

Even if the government can't find the people who is abusing the laws that is why they let the service provider to do the job, here the gambling platform has their right to decline any winning amount from the user who won from a place where their service is not allowed and the new KYC kind of screening system won't let anyone to stay under the radar forever. So the choices will become limited and probably there are high chances to end up choosing the scam casino and lose the money.

Possible but not likely the case since not every platform are really that strict when it comes into those players who do make use of VPN or other ways or methods for them to access.
If gets caught then a certain user wouldnt be having other reason for making those alibis which is clearly that they had violated a rule.This is why most of those people who
get caught will really be just moving on since they do know that they are at fault.There's no way that you could fight on or make out argumentation.
Providers might not or might really be that strict on imposing rules specially into those people who do play on restricted areas or countries.

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Suicide rates have a direct connection with this industry in gambling-allowed countries, the governments try to protect the population from bad habits that can be overkill in case of becomes uncontrolled, IMHO. Authorities and regulators should put strict rules for not allowing people under 21 to gamble and the deposit conditions should be tightened for those who gamble regularly. Maybe this method will have effects in the future, it kinda depends on the rules in that country.

That's very common for gambling allowed countries to have a rule that below 21 years old are not allowed to gamble in a casino but it doesn't mean that it will stop them from trying to gamble illegally since they're under the age to gamble without consequences of getting to jail. There will be always people who will gamble secretly even though gambling is illegal in their country. We really can't help to stop all of it.

There's no way of stopping it specially when you are already get addicted to it and also just like on other things such as vices like alcohol and cigarette which even if it would really be banned
then for sure people would be finding a way on exploiting out as long they could able to get one and cater out their addiction.Same goes with gambling which people could really make out dealings right away
considering that accessibility and easy way on engaging on online things is simple.You do need some device and then internet then you're good to go.High chance that you wont really be that getting
caught and since we do have that VPN then it do really make things even more easier and thats why its totally not 100% that people could be stopped.

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Suicide rates have a direct connection with this industry in gambling-allowed countries, the governments try to protect the population from bad habits that can be overkill in case of becomes uncontrolled, IMHO. Authorities and regulators should put strict rules for not allowing people under 21 to gamble and the deposit conditions should be tightened for those who gamble regularly. Maybe this method will have effects in the future, it kinda depends on the rules in that country.

That's very common for gambling allowed countries to have a rule that below 21 years old are not allowed to gamble in a casino but it doesn't mean that it will stop them from trying to gamble illegally since they're under the age to gamble without consequences of getting to jail. There will be always people who will gamble secretly even though gambling is illegal in their country. We really can't help to stop all of it.

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Quote from: smartaction on October 01, 2022, 11:25:54 AM

Gambling is already a punishable offense in my country. And if anyone openly gambles offline then the police arrest him. However, there are many gamblers in our country who gamble secretly and online gambling platforms are very popular for them because here they can gamble secretly at home. So I think those who love gambling will go through all the government hurdles and continue gambling secretly.

I don't think it could be a good thing that gamble secretly by ignoring the rule of government. Even then they are getting punished for doing this so it is also a risky thing to doing and what you are saying about playing gamble is good not looking good think we saw only 10\9 in so it will be better if you are follow they rules of your country .

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Quote from: smartaction on October 01, 2022, 11:25:54 AM

Gambling is already a punishable offense in my country. And if anyone openly gambles offline then the police arrest him. However, there are many gamblers in our country who gamble secretly and online gambling platforms are very popular for them because here they can gamble secretly at home. So I think those who love gambling will go through all the government hurdles and continue gambling secretly.

There are illegal gambling activities that are prohibited in my country, there are also spots location for physical gamblers that are continuously surveyed as often used to do gambling not permitted by governments but there are casino that legally operates. When it comes in online gambling if the government is not yet that advanced it will not detect online gambling websites unless it is reported or get too hyped that many users became addicted into it. Detecting online activities in my country is still not too wide that many are still able to play online any games they want.

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