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Topic: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! - page 371. (Read 522763 times)

newbie
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hi guys. can't believe wings dao is still far from 5000btc threshold.

I put wings on the ongoing list on http://icocoins.com/?ico-ongoing.htm

good luck

Good to see that some people start helping, instead of demanding and crying about more bounty.
hero member
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here we go

Now you can log in to https://fly.wings.ai  get #BTC QR code & support WINGS at 40+ EasyBit ATM in #USA #Slovenia #Italy #England #Greece

https://twitter.com/wingsplatform/status/811020013620568064



hero member
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exciting news the good people at EasyBit (Bitcoin ATMs) have donated their advertising space on their ATMs and receipts to the foundation for the next month.  EasyBit has about 60+ ATMs operating globally.

URL and images should be live soon (next 24 hours)

https://easybitllc.com/atm-locations/




Good job, Wings team!

thanks, they are testing printing of the logo on the receipts now, and then implementing the videoscreen today.

hope that the tracking (via https://btm.wings.ai) results in some good amount of donations, so that we can suggest this to WINGS DAO projects.

we're also going to have some info (paper brochures) shipping with some other bitcoin products in 2017.
legendary
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This is informative article that is sign of great future. WINGS will fly to the moon because it's very serious project.
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Is this project going to continue if less than 5000BTC?

 I think Wings team get some basic things wrong, No signature campaign during ICO funding, using the term donation instead of investment and keep referring to the way Ethereum did their own ICO, there is no two similar projects and people have been scammed and want to protect their investment first before anything

I guess you are a little bit misinformed or did not have time to read the OP . Signature campaign was done in pre-ICO . 4 months running.

I think what he is saying is that why do a pre-ico campaign and decided not to do any during the campaign. How many wings signature badge have you seen on this forum recently compare to Chronobank signature that flood every thread you visit now

Yeah, that was a bad decision. Maybe, they thought people won't remove their signatures in ico period due to referral system.
Wings appears to be more promising than chronobank for short term. But when chronobank launches fully in 3 years it can provide higher profits.

i was going to run it at first, but then someone pointed out that after running the sig campaign for 5 months, practically anyone who would have clicked and signed up would have done it already, and we have them in our database.

regarding profits.... who is more profitable in the world today? VC's and investment bankers? Or guys running staff outsourcing services?

Concerning the signature, that is a bad move there, you just need visibility and it doesn't matter how long that is why you still see coca-cola spending Millions of $ of advert, I also read the %1 impact of social media on the just concluded US election.

Perhaps.  We had struggled with this internally, with many people who participated on bounties voicing that they did not want to get their eggs more diluted.

I wanted to go forward, but at the end there would be effort to put together another program, tracking, etc.... paying people....

Based on the actual metrics of clicks and sign ups, time and effort, versus other sources of marketing, branding, articles, focusing our staff's time on other things, I changed my mind.

Just believe me if you saw the actual metrics on these signatures.... it's a huge waste of time and money.  Almost borderline crypto welfare system for Bitcointalk Hero members (which I am one btw) Smiley
newbie
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hi guys. can't believe wings dao is still far from 5000btc threshold.

I put wings on the ongoing list on http://icocoins.com/?ico-ongoing.htm

good luck
hero member
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sr. member
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--snip


Who would be the reporter of the outcome?


Also, i couldn't understand why a person making a proposal cannot exploit the system by buying lots of wings.

It seems that you are here on wings thread just to make comparison with your chronosbank ico . Are you somewhat less confidence with your chronosbank ? Tell you what Wings is a different beast and a lot of of potentials . Don't get me wrong but somehow you are feeling threaten by Wings . Why not invest on Wings at the same time with chronosbank. As the saying goes do not put eggs in one basket.

Where do you see comparison of wings and chronobank in this post?
Chronobank and wings are different. We cannot compare them. I was just giving my opinion on the profit we can make from the two.

I usually clear my doubts (if any) on the project before investing.

Actually, I would be investing more in wings ICO than chronobank. The earnings I make from forecasts (if any) , would be invested in chronobank and some back in wings.


Chronobank is not the best choice to invest since they used VC funds.

Why investments from VC make it a bad choice?

No ICO can be the best choice. There are many factors to determine which investment is better. Some ico coins, rise too much at first, and then fall drastically. Some go below ICO price and then rise. And some rise slowly at first and then rise fast .

For wings, I think, it would become 1.5 X before, and when some DAO is launched , it can go around 2-3x of ICO price. And then consistently rise  to 10X and then 20 X and so on.


For chronobank, I think, it may go below ICO price at first. Then it can rise to 10 X in 2018-19 when it is fully launched. Then it would probably remain at almost constant price with less fluctuations.
hero member
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Is this project going to continue if less than 5000BTC?

 I think Wings team get some basic things wrong, No signature campaign during ICO funding, using the term donation instead of investment and keep referring to the way Ethereum did their own ICO, there is no two similar projects and people have been scammed and want to protect their investment first before anything

I guess you are a little bit misinformed or did not have time to read the OP . Signature campaign was done in pre-ICO . 4 months running.

I think what he is saying is that why do a pre-ico campaign and decided not to do any during the campaign. How many wings signature badge have you seen on this forum recently compare to Chronobank signature that flood every thread you visit now

Yeah, that was a bad decision. Maybe, they thought people won't remove their signatures in ico period due to referral system.
Wings appears to be more promising than chronobank for short term. But when chronobank launches fully in 3 years it can provide higher profits.

i was going to run it at first, but then someone pointed out that after running the sig campaign for 5 months, practically anyone who would have clicked and signed up would have done it already, and we have them in our database.

regarding profits.... who is more profitable in the world today? VC's and investment bankers? Or guys running staff outsourcing services?

Concerning the signature, that is a bad move there, you just need visibility and it doesn't matter how long that is why you still see coca-cola spending Millions of $ of advert, I also read the %1 impact of social media on the just concluded US election.
sr. member
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--snip


Who would be the reporter of the outcome?


Also, i couldn't understand why a person making a proposal cannot exploit the system by buying lots of wings.

It seems that you are here on wings thread just to make comparison with your chronosbank ico . Are you somewhat less confidence with your chronosbank ? Tell you what Wings is a different beast and a lot of of potentials . Don't get me wrong but somehow you are feeling threaten by Wings . Why not invest on Wings at the same time with chronosbank. As the saying goes do not put eggs in one basket.

Where do you see comparison of wings and chronobank in this post?
Chronobank and wings are different. We cannot compare them. I was just giving my opinion on the profit we can make from the two.

I usually clear my doubts (if any) on the project before investing.

Actually, I would be investing more in wings ICO than chronobank. The earnings I make from forecasts (if any) , would be invested in chronobank and some back in wings.


Chronobank is not the best choice to invest since they used VC funds.
sr. member
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I see Wings IOU on Liqui. No volume yet. Wings needs to get on Poloniex.

It is not yet even started on Liqui.
Check things carefully.
sr. member
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I think success of Wings highly depends on success of Iconomi. Let me clear my opinion.

Lately there are a lot of ICOs who are searching for few million $. And as we can see just few projects got 100% amount they were searching for. So it looks money supply for ICOs is sometimes (too) short. As Iconomi will become entry point for new FIAT money it will be able to bring tons of it into crypto. And if they succeed with it then this money will be searching for different investments and one of them will surely be ICOs. And if supply will be way above demand then Wings will profit a lot from it because it will be, in a way, entry point to gather crypto money for projects. So I think Wings and Iconomi are natural partners in crypto and thats why I think they invested into it. And I really hope they both succeed because that could push crypto into new highs

is iconomi buying wings? proof?

What? No.
Why do you think that iconomi buying wings?

Iconomi aim to profit by trading Index and Performance funds. and they will cap the funds so there will be NO "supply above demand". and hence the assumption that Iconomi and Wings are "natural partners" is baseless.

I disagree. Iconomi is trying to get FIAT into crypto, Wings will help DAOs to get right way of funding. Some of FIAT money will search for Venture projects with high risk and possibly high profits and therefore it can be put into ICOs through Iconomi platform
sr. member
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--snip


Who would be the reporter of the outcome?


Also, i couldn't understand why a person making a proposal cannot exploit the system by buying lots of wings.

It seems that you are here on wings thread just to make comparison with your chronosbank ico . Are you somewhat less confidence with your chronosbank ? Tell you what Wings is a different beast and a lot of of potentials . Don't get me wrong but somehow you are feeling threaten by Wings . Why not invest on Wings at the same time with chronosbank. As the saying goes do not put eggs in one basket.

Where do you see comparison of wings and chronobank in this post?
Chronobank and wings are different. We cannot compare them. I was just giving my opinion on the profit we can make from the two.

I usually clear my doubts (if any) on the project before investing.

Actually, I would be investing more in wings ICO than chronobank. The earnings I make from forecasts (if any) , would be invested in chronobank and some back in wings.
hero member
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Who would be the reporter of the outcome?

Also, i couldn't understand why a person making a proposal cannot exploit the system by buying lots of wings.

At the first version of WINGS, we are going to use the immutable data provided by the blockchain (e.g. how many BTC have been collected, or how many participants have voted to release the project next milestone). There is no need for human reporters with this approach.

The most important factor is how close a person to particular forecast result. The amount of WINGS tokens held increases a bit the gained reward for correct forecast, or reduces a bit the FR penalty for incorrect one, but it does not enable one to exploit the system. You are welcome to review the mathematical model and provide any useful feedback, so our team scientist Sergeui Popov, could take it into account.
hero member
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--snip


Who would be the reporter of the outcome?


Also, i couldn't understand why a person making a proposal cannot exploit the system by buying lots of wings.

It seems that you are here on wings thread just to make comparison with your chronosbank ico . Are you somewhat less confidence with your chronosbank ? Tell you what Wings is a different beast and a lot of of potentials . Don't get me wrong but somehow you are feeling threaten by Wings . Why not invest on Wings at the same time with chronosbank. As the saying goes do not put eggs in one basket.
sr. member
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--snip


Who would be the reporter of the outcome?


Also, i couldn't understand why a person making a proposal cannot exploit the system by buying lots of wings.
hero member
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One question, I don't know if it has been answered,
Would the mechanism of prediction be similar to that of Augur?
Do you have to buy share in prediction to gain profit? Do users have to invest to predict the outcome?

It is somewhat similar in concept, but the implementation is much different. While in Augur the reporters will be loosing REP's in case they don't report or change their report in the middle of process, we specifically designed WINGS to avoid any loss of tokens.

The way WINGS works is that anyone that has WINGS can make a forecast of how much a project will raise in funds, and also what are the chances of achieving predefined milestones (we will add more variables later but starting with this simplified model).  That allows people to use crowd-sourced data to value a project, as well as perform risk assessment of achieving milestones, again based on crowd intelligence.

Participants who make forecasts then earn a portion of the fee that a project pays to the DAO. This portion set according to how close they are to the result (say I forecasted that wings would raise 2500 btc and it raised 2500 btc), their historical Forecast Rating (FR) and the amount of WINGS tokens they hold. Their FR also increases and decreases following how close they were to the right answer.

The scientific white paper describes the mathematical model in a more detail: http://wings.ai/docs/WINGS_Scientific.pdf

So imagine that being part of WINGS DAO is like having a job at JP Morgan or some VC fund as an analyst... your job is to tell people what you think will happen... how much is this thing valued at? Will the project deliver the new self-driving car in milestone 1? Will the car fly to the moon to unlock milestone 2?

Over time the people who are better at this get rewarded.  But the bigger consequence of this is that over time anyone participating on a project that has not launched with WINGS is operating with a lot more risk.

By reducing the participation risk, we open the gates to a lot more people participating in funding projects who aren't professional crypto enthusiasts living breathing crypto for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
sr. member
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i was going to run it at first, but then someone pointed out that after running the sig campaign for 5 months, practically anyone who would have clicked and signed up would have done it already, and we have them in our database.

regarding profits.... who is more profitable in the world today? VC's and investment bankers? Or guys running staff outsourcing services?

The advantage with chronobank was that it has Australian government as customer. Which means it would have got popularity later on.

Anyhow, profits in crypto are not predictable to a good accuracy.


One question, I don't know if it has been answered,
Would the mechanism of prediction be similar to that of Augur?
Do you have to buy share in prediction to gain profit? Do users have to invest to predict the outcome?
hero member
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Is this project going to continue if less than 5000BTC?

 I think Wings team get some basic things wrong, No signature campaign during ICO funding, using the term donation instead of investment and keep referring to the way Ethereum did their own ICO, there is no two similar projects and people have been scammed and want to protect their investment first before anything

I guess you are a little bit misinformed or did not have time to read the OP . Signature campaign was done in pre-ICO . 4 months running.

I think what he is saying is that why do a pre-ico campaign and decided not to do any during the campaign. How many wings signature badge have you seen on this forum recently compare to Chronobank signature that flood every thread you visit now

Yeah, that was a bad decision. Maybe, they thought people won't remove their signatures in ico period due to referral system.
Wings appears to be more promising than chronobank for short term. But when chronobank launches fully in 3 years it can provide higher profits.

i was going to run it at first, but then someone pointed out that after running the sig campaign for 5 months, practically anyone who would have clicked and signed up would have done it already, and we have them in our database.

regarding profits.... who is more profitable in the world today? VC's and investment bankers? Or guys running staff outsourcing services?
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