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Topic: Wirex- Bitcoin Debit Card | Buy Bitcoin | Mobile Banking | Send Money - page 48. (Read 69591 times)

newbie
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Hey. I am so happy I found this website with responses on wirex and their service, which is a complete ponzi scheme. I have currently been in contact with wirex support over the past 3 weeks trying to resolve a issue with my USD card. Before now, I thought wirex was only on reddit publicly. I have been in contact with them on reddit here for atleast 2 weeks about the issue. Here is whats going on :

 *** PLEASE LOOK TO REDDIT BEFORE USING WIREX!!! THEY ARE A HUGE PONZI SCAM!!!***

Wirex is a scam. They have been trying to hold my money for a month now. Telling me that after I loaded the card with funds, now I have to verify the card. This is however a lie because I followed the stipulations of a unverified usd card. Instead, wirex claims that there is a 1,000 USD card load limit for the life of the card on reddit. On their website, it shows that there is a 2500 dollar limit to load onto the usd card. When inquiring why my 1141 dollars transaction does not go thru on Amazon.com wirex replyed :

"I understand your point. However, you are getting the situation all wrong, getmeright. Verification is not something you "decided to do" or not. This is part of the terms and conditions of the service and actually, is established by the card issuing bank. It's as simple as this: If you surpass the lifetime limit for card expense of $1000 for unverified users, you have to verify your account in order to continue using the services. You can check this here: https://help.wirexapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/207870815-Wirex-card-limits So the only think you can do about it is to comply with the request and follow the verification process here described: https://help.wirexapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/207161719-How-and-why-to-verify-Wirex-account- If you have more questions, please contact the support team again. "
MY REPLY:
How at all does this make sense? On your wirex website it says that ALL UNVERIFIED USD cards have a 2500 dollar limit. With no limit on online transactions per day and no limit on amount of money spent per day Value of purchases / Per day No limit No limit No limit https://wirexapp.com/cards/index.html its located at this link. Why are you lying to me? Why are you trying to steal my money and say I need to verify my card. This isnt true at all. Your system actually stop me from loading more usd onto card when the limit is reached. What you are telling me and the website information is very different. I need my money off this card rigght now. Stop trying to steal my money. Everyone. Look at this public response. I have 1141 dollars on a USD card that is not at the 2500 dollar limit for unverified card users. I am trying to use the funds at amazon.com . Wirex is claiming that the usd card has a limit load of 1,000 dollars. THis is a lie because on their website it says unverified card load limits are 2500 dollars. Does it look like they just publically admitted to scamming me? I want my money wirex. Im not verifying anything, because I dont have to.

Im getting together all my transaction screenshots and proof to show everyone! I hope something works so that I can get my money back. It sucks hunting down these guys but I will.
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
As much as I hate the current exchange rates at Wirex I need to say they're doing awesome work with their mobile app. But since I would like to actually use (withdraw with good rates) my BTCs I did some research for Wirex alternatives.

I took some exchanges with low fees from @eduBTCs list and here's my result:

XAPO: Damn KYC policy, they want to know the source and the amount of your annual income. Sorry, but that's a no go: https://themerkle.com/users-outrage-over-xapo-bitcoin-platforms-impractical-kyc-processes/

uquid: Seems to have cash flow problems, they sometimes can't even load your card because of missing funds. WTF!? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-debit-card-uquid-best-bitcoin-and-altcoins-debit-card-0-fee-deposit-1485950

CryptoPay: Fees are too high ... didn't look further.

SpectroCoin & AdvCash are looking promising at least I didn't find anything suspicious.

P.S.: I'm ready to leave @Wirex, your app isn't that good that I would pay like 5-9 % exchange rate difference fee per withdraw...Fix it as soon as possible, otherwise you'll lose customers...You're doing many things right, I would love to stay.

Update: Just read about scam accusations regarding SpectroCoin...forget them too :-D

Robert
hero member
Activity: 2548
Merit: 626
Which service do you recommend ? i see xapo has to lowest fee's according to your tables.
XAPO, spectrocoin or uquid they all have low fees and vary which one has the lowest, just spectrocoin and uquid have a bit better support than XAPO (reacts quicker usually).

thanks, will check them out Smiley
member
Activity: 74
Merit: 10
Which service do you recommend ? i see xapo has to lowest fee's according to your tables.
XAPO, spectrocoin or uquid they all have low fees and vary which one has the lowest, just spectrocoin and uquid have a bit better support than XAPO (reacts quicker usually).
hero member
Activity: 2548
Merit: 626
Which service do you recommend ? i see xapo has to lowest fee's according to your tables.
member
Activity: 74
Merit: 10
sent ticket too for the ridiculous high fees, and no response, i don't expect any answer from them, just switched to cryptopay
cryptopay also charge pretty high fees of 3.5%

well i don't know how you got that number, accroding to my experience, when you load a card, the rate is displayed , and it's 1.5% lower than kraken's rate, i use mainly EUR currency

i mean it depend to where your btc's comes from, unless there is some hidden fees that i didn't notice, it was my 1st load, will double check next time



The rate to convert BTC to EUR at cryptopay now is 1,122.908 EUR and kraken price is 1,150.990 EUR so the margin is 2.5% + 1% loading fee = 3.5%, be careful with them
jr. member
Activity: 90
Merit: 1
sent ticket too for the ridiculous high fees, and no response, i don't expect any answer from them, just switched to cryptopay
cryptopay also charge pretty high fees of 3.5%

well i don't know how you got that number, accroding to my experience, when you load a card, the rate is displayed , and it's 1.5% lower than kraken's rate, i use mainly EUR currency

i mean it depend to where your btc's comes from, unless there is some hidden fees that i didn't notice, it was my 1st load, will double check next time

member
Activity: 74
Merit: 10
sent ticket too for the ridiculous high fees, and no response, i don't expect any answer from them, just switched to cryptopay
cryptopay also charge pretty high fees of 3.5%
jr. member
Activity: 90
Merit: 1
sent ticket too for the ridiculous high fees, and no response, i don't expect any answer from them, just switched to cryptopay
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
Same here: Stay away from these guys. It's not scam but in contrary to their help page the wire transfer took 3 weeks each (tried two times) and the BTX transfer is credited to my account but blocked since two days. Totally ridiculous.

Will sue them if I loose noteworthy on the exchange rate.
member
Activity: 74
Merit: 10
Woohoo today's lucky number (wirex fee) is 6.76%

ProviderXapoWirexCryptoPaySpectroCoinUquidAdvCashCoinizy
You get EUR for one BTC1131.52351073.151119.6411125.951137.911126.611084.12
Margin1.68%6.76%2.72%2.17%1.13%2.11%5.8%
Loading fee0%0%1%0%1%10%
Total margin1.68%6.76%3.72%2.17%2.13%2.2%5.8%
Card Price and one year fees2029272128.9914.99No plastic
You get EUR for one BTC final1111.52351044.151081.444591104.951097.54091110.62Not applicable
                           
                           
The Bitstamp price is 1150.91 EUR for 1 BTC
hero member
Activity: 1111
Merit: 588
I send a support ticket about the high fees and from which exchange do they calculate their rate . They advertise a 3% fee and it is more than 6% , this a steal . Waiting for their reply and after that i'm moving to another service . Is there any authority that we can complain about this ?
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
On 28 March I had to block the card after I noticed two unauthorized transactions in my account. Since then the card balance ($1567.58) is locked.
Can I get my money transferred to another card, please? Ticket #76159

normally when a chargeback form is filled (which is the case in your situation as I can see), the refund goes to the same card. It could very well be that yours cannot be processed because you had blocked your card yourself.
Getting the money back could be much more complicated in such case, not to mention transferring it to another card - what you should have done really, is wait for the official 14 days for the issue to sort itself out via the standard MasterCard processing rules..

I don't get your point. What choice I had other than block the card myself when I noticed that unauthorized transactions? You are saying I should have waited 14 days, but I waited for 21 days already! Normally, the refund would be credited to the bank account. But being a Wirex customer I even don't know where is the account which my card is linked to. Also, i've re-read my conversation with your support and it appears that money actually never left my account because the transactions were not settled.

However, it is still unclear to me what will happen after my account is unlocked? Will i be able to transfer funds to another card? If not, how can I access money then?

P.S I've got a Visa, not Mastercard


Two days ago Wirex support confirmed that the bank was requested to transfer funds to the virtual card. However, nothing has changed since. My account is still short $1567.58. Why transferring funds between same bank accounts takes so much time?
hero member
Activity: 2548
Merit: 626
I just found out that you can't verify your account if you're not from the UK they didn't mention any of it on their website.. what a waste of time and money .. support is the worst.... seriously get your shit together  .. i wouldn't recommend this debit card provider for the moment i will be looking for some other providers ..

I am not from the UK, and i have verified my account.
Well, that was almost a year ago, so i don't know if anything has changed since then.

I am still waiting for an answer support guys :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18634693
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
I just found out that you can't verify your account if you're not from the UK they didn't mention any of it on their website.. what a waste of time and money .. support is the worst.... seriously get your shit together  .. i wouldn't recommend this debit card provider for the moment i will be looking for some other providers ..
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
Enough is enough. People must now see the example of crapy wirex work!

Deposited money to my account. Then sent funds to my credit card which was opened on wirex website. Transaction shows completed. Guess wat- MONEY NEVER ARRIVED TO CARD! but yes, you are right, money was DEDUCTED from my BTC balance. So where is the money?Huh

This is how so called dashboard of theirs shows:
https://preview.ibb.co/mH4BJ5/wirex_crap_card_2.jpg
And this is whats inside the card:
https://preview.ibb.co/bVo5d5/wirex_crap_card.jpg

*****

Ogh, but wait, this not all! I will show a better joke now! There it is:

Withdraw money to my virtual card from paypal. Money arrived to card. Mychoice can see the balance on their website, also if card details entered it shows the details that money is on the card, but in card balance money is not reflected and once i try to unload card it says i have only 1.5 usd and this max what i can use! Take a look:

https://preview.ibb.co/bR1DWQ/wirex_crap_shit_2.jpg

****

And yes, my account is verified, and my cards are verified.
And yes, during couple of last days several times contacted their so called "support" and never got any answer.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE OUT MONEY OF MY ACCOUNT AND WILL NEVER USE IT AGAIN BECAUSE OF ALL THIS! ENOUGH!
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
@konkee totally agree. Dont know how they felt that they are going to get away with it
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
This new exchange rate is totally ridiculous. I've been using Wirex for some time and it was good but with this 6.32% margin it's clearly time to look for another card.
member
Activity: 74
Merit: 10
The fee has been lowered to 6.32%

Fees as on 2017-04-19


ProviderXapoWirexCryptoPaySpectroCoinUquidAdvCashCoinizy
You get EUR for one BTC1104.711510521095.3461104.231110.91099.551057.7
Margin1.63%6.32%2.46%1.67%1.08%2.09%5.81%
Card Price and one year fees2029272128.9914.99No plastic
Loading fee0%0%1%0%1%10%
You get EUR for one BTC final1084.711510231057.392541083.231070.8011083.56Not applicable

The Bitstamp price is 1122.99 EUR for 1 BTC

Should have a look at Bitwa.la as well. They give you the live price. For 1120 euros it cost you 1 bitcoin + 5.60 euros in fees.

so 1.004066 BTC = 1120 euros on bitwa.la site. I think that is one of the best rates compared to 1 BTC = 1049.31 EUR on wirex. you save yourself nearly 70 euros from each bitcoin!! that is a huge difference.

Bitwa.la requires verification, so it is a bit different type of business
sr. member
Activity: 534
Merit: 250
The Protocol for the Audience Economy
The fee has been lowered to 6.32%

Fees as on 2017-04-19


ProviderXapoWirexCryptoPaySpectroCoinUquidAdvCashCoinizy
You get EUR for one BTC1104.711510521095.3461104.231110.91099.551057.7
Margin1.63%6.32%2.46%1.67%1.08%2.09%5.81%
Card Price and one year fees2029272128.9914.99No plastic
Loading fee0%0%1%0%1%10%
You get EUR for one BTC final1084.711510231057.392541083.231070.8011083.56Not applicable

The Bitstamp price is 1122.99 EUR for 1 BTC

Should have a look at Bitwa.la as well. They give you the live price. For 1120 euros it cost you 1 bitcoin + 5.60 euros in fees.

so 1.004066 BTC = 1120 euros on bitwa.la site. I think that is one of the best rates compared to 1 BTC = 1049.31 EUR on wirex. you save yourself nearly 70 euros from each bitcoin!! that is a huge difference.
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