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For me without money it's called sport and not gambling because the main reason why A habit or a scenario called gambling is that it involves money which is we are all know that in gambling if we have enough money then we can play a lot of games and put our bet in that. but it will Matters in our luck because without our luck in our side then we can not win in our bet because in gambling prediction is not perfect.
But if the prize is an item or something else that can replace money, isn't that the same as gambling? We often do this, don't we? For example, if you lose in completing a job, you must treat your friends to a drink or a meal. You and your friends are competing to finish the job on time so you can be the winner. Sometimes the position of this money is replaced by something else, so it doesn't look like gambling, and we often do this in our daily lives. But maybe it's not gambling for you, and that's normal.
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Something could only be considered gambling if an equal or a placeholder of a value is put at stake in exchange of something with a higher valuation as a form of reward. With these Siperpicks as uou put it, that’s not really the case considering you don’t really put anything up in line, not even a single penny. And I’m quite interested to know how their whole business model looks too, because there’s no way in hell they’re anlento pay customers and winners like that without getting the money from somewhere, unless this is a money laundering scheme meant to ensure that those money are cleaned and not put into his name, quite possibly be put into the care of specific winners of whom the funder have connections with. I might just be spitballing here but there’s more to how these people could reward their players, and beyond the whole premise of a “betless” gamble, I think the manner at which they get the momey is much more important.
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My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
It's not gambling if you look at the definiton but at the moment you are getting money from the place you linkeed and and gambling it again it's definitely gamblng. Also it's known that people can get hooked on playing without money. I've encountered those cases when i was reading about addiction. It's not as dangerous addiction but it sure takes time. Sometimes even more time. Some casinos study these people and their gambling habits to understand more about hooking the customers.

For me without money it's called sport and not gambling because the main reason why A habit or a scenario called gambling is that it involves money which is we are all know that in gambling if we have enough money then we can play a lot of games and put our bet in that. but it will Matters in our luck because without our luck in our side then we can not win in our bet because in gambling prediction is not perfect.
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

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My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
It's not gambling if you look at the definiton but at the moment you are getting money from the place you linkeed and and gambling it again it's definitely gamblng. Also it's known that people can get hooked on playing without money. I've encountered those cases when i was reading about addiction. It's not as dangerous addiction but it sure takes time. Sometimes even more time. Some casinos study these people and their gambling habits to understand more about hooking the customers.
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We must return this to the notion of gambling which involves betting in a game. So in general if a game is without betting then it cannot be said to be gambling in my opinion, because it goes back to the basic understanding of gambling itself. And I agree that gambling carries risks, and if there is nothing at stake then what risks will we get, because we don't bet anything and will not lose anything from that game.
However, if it is based on personal opinion, of course there will always be different opinions from one to another.

Didn't gambling start back then when money was not created yet and other things were paid when a gambler lost? Because I remembered when I was young, I was still in elementary school, when I was playing with my friends in the text card battle of marvels super heroes, when I won, I got a card instead of winning and when I accumulated a lot of cards, I sell cards to my opponents or teammates to make money for a small coin.
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

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I have never heard or seen your website before. But as you said here I tried to sign up but failed. The country code of my country is not given here due to which I could not create an account here.
It's pretty clear from the currency mentioned on the website (Naira) that the website is only available for users from Nigeria, and there is only one country code available on the sign up page which is Nigeria's, so us international users are not welcomed on the platform for some reason. Anyway, though I don't spend much time on these things, I might have given it a try if I was allowed.

And, I don't really think that a person who plays a free fantasy game or a free predictor game to win cash prizes will suddenly have the urge to start gambling with real money knowing they can lose money that way and this way they can earn for free and lose nothing even if their predictions go wrong.
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That could be the possible realities of things at this moment, because I have hard from multiple sources that those winning on YouTube are manipulated just to attract players and making them thinks that it is easy to win in those casino and also make a plur just to get players trapped at whatever point, since the system is the games she'd by influencers differs from the real games on the casinos.

This is why, it only those casinos with less reputation and low revenues generation means to engage the services of a YouTuber when the casino reputation is exacerbated.

I've heard several times from people that influencers who livestream them gamble and get big wins using accounts that are provided directly by the casino so accounts are designed to always give big wins.
Here, all the capital and accounts that provide the casino so that influencers do their job, namely playing and broadcasting Livestreaming to be able to attract gamblers to want to enter the casino and register there.
Whether this kind of case occurs in the crypto gambling industry or not? , for fiat online casinos, things like this are a natural thing to happen.

This is their effort or way of doing promotions because that way there will be curiosity and interest from gamblers to try the casino that is used by these influencers.
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I have had a lot of stories about YouTubers using fake money to gamble and win a lot but then we can't prove how real those game seasons are because since those videos are created to advertise one casino or the other, they may manipulate games just favour the influencer during video session.

if the YouTuber has collaborated with the casino, usually the winnings on that account have been set from the casino. and it will show the success of the YouTuber by generating lots of wins from the casino. it's solely to attract new players more interested, although I'm sure some are already aware and know that it's just a victory set.
YouTubers also sometimes benefit from the referral code that they share through the videos they upload.
That could be the possible realities of things at this moment, because I have hard from multiple sources that those winning on YouTube are manipulated just to attract players and making them thinks that it is easy to win in those casino and also make a plur just to get players trapped at whatever point, since the system is the games she'd by influencers differs from the real games on the casinos.

This is why, it only those casinos with less reputation and low revenues generation means to engage the services of a YouTuber when the casino reputation is exacerbated.



exactly, they make money not by betting, gambling, playing the game but by affiliation. By putting links on their videos that will gone viral. They will get commissions and referral codes..

Since there is no money gambling, I wouldn't consider it gambling at first. But whenever you make predictions from this website and participate in gambling with those predictions, I will consider it as gambling. Because from here a strong desire to participate in gambling will awaken.
Not sure if you are contradicting yourself here or I just failed to get your point! You said you don't consider it gambling because no money is at risk but then you said it's gambling. This is confusing!
Anyway, I read the last few replies and am a bit surprised that no one talked about the affiliation of this website with the shady casino BetKing! Not sure if no one have noticed it (although I warned about it in an previous reply) or people just don't care!

when you put risk in a probabilistic outcome you're gambling. whether you put real money or not, it's gambling. The effects only reflect to your bank account. If you put real money and you win, you earn it. If you did not put money and took a loss, then you won't lose any monetary value. The heart of gambling is taking and accepting risks involve.
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I have had a lot of stories about YouTubers using fake money to gamble and win a lot but then we can't prove how real those game seasons are because since those videos are created to advertise one casino or the other, they may manipulate games just favour the influencer during video session.

if the YouTuber has collaborated with the casino, usually the winnings on that account have been set from the casino. and it will show the success of the YouTuber by generating lots of wins from the casino. it's solely to attract new players more interested, although I'm sure some are already aware and know that it's just a victory set.
YouTubers also sometimes benefit from the referral code that they share through the videos they upload.
That could be the possible realities of things at this moment, because I have hard from multiple sources that those winning on YouTube are manipulated just to attract players and making them thinks that it is easy to win in those casino and also make a plur just to get players trapped at whatever point, since the system is the games she'd by influencers differs from the real games on the casinos.

This is why, it only those casinos with less reputation and low revenues generation means to engage the services of a YouTuber when the casino reputation is exacerbated.

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Since there is no money gambling, I wouldn't consider it gambling at first. But whenever you make predictions from this website and participate in gambling with those predictions, I will consider it as gambling. Because from here a strong desire to participate in gambling will awaken.
Not sure if you are contradicting yourself here or I just failed to get your point! You said you don't consider it gambling because no money is at risk but then you said it's gambling. This is confusing!
Anyway, I read the last few replies and am a bit surprised that no one talked about the affiliation of this website with the shady casino BetKing! Not sure if no one have noticed it (although I warned about it in an previous reply) or people just don't care!
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well, that's because it is on the safer side of gambling without losing anything,

And if you don't take anything, it isn't called gambling.  I would also love to win in gambling without losing anything but obviously gambling platform is created as a business so one way or another, the platform will win if we keep on playing in the long run.

but i prefer to call that as just a game for free since you didn't have to risk that much so winning or losing doesn't matter too much and on the brighter side, if ever you won then you will still earn.

I greatly agree, I had been saying that a game isn't gambling if there is no stake from the player.

it's not that we have different perspective on different aspects of this world, but for me every decision you've made are always carrying risk, even if we say that you are playing it safe at the end of the spectrum. i understand that the consequences of losing this time isn't that much heavy compared to when you are actually putting in some amount but a risk is still a risk that's why i just prefer to call it a game than gamble.

I think it is dependent on the situation if risk is present or not.  In this case, there is a free participation and a possible reward.  There is no risk involved here so I agree, that the situation given by @OP is only a game, not a gambling.
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I have had a lot of stories about YouTubers using fake money to gamble and win a lot but then we can't prove how real those game seasons are because since those videos are created to advertise one casino or the other, they may manipulate games just favour the influencer during video session.

if the YouTuber has collaborated with the casino, usually the winnings on that account have been set from the casino. and it will show the success of the YouTuber by generating lots of wins from the casino. it's solely to attract new players more interested, although I'm sure some are already aware and know that it's just a victory set.
YouTubers also sometimes benefit from the referral code that they share through the videos they upload.
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Yes of course, gambling involves chances of one occurrence over the other or  series of occurrences with a reward if it turns out in your favor. Its all evident in this situation. the fact that its free does not negate that you're kept in  suspense and  made to do  some calculated brain works to come up with your prediction in anticipation of the cash reward. In my  own opinion about the free nature,I see it as a tool that is used to pull traffic of gamblers  to Betking which I believe its behind the project. The rules may change when they're done pulling the desired traffic. it still has link to the official Betking platform for those who want to bet with real money. its clearly Gambling.
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For YouTubers, it's a different case bud, YouTubers are influencers, even with gambling with fake money and all that, they are still getting paid, they get paid for those how many viewers they got in that video, and the Casino they promoted still pays them too, so in a real sense, they are basically not gambling, but only promoting the casino as that is what they are hired to do.
I have had a lot of stories about YouTubers using fake money to gamble and win a lot but then we can't prove how real those game seasons are because since those videos are created to advertise one casino or the other, they may manipulate games just favour the influencer during video session.

But while playing those games by other gamblers it may become more difficult to win and that is why we are warned to be careful in what type of YouTube videos we watch and follow.
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What is the fun in gambling when rewards and money are not involved, and what makes gambling to be gambling is the stake ability and expected outcome and reception of those winning.

So I can't play at any casino if it doesn't allow me to stake on the others since we know the destinations those games are communing
There are a lot of youtubers who play casino with not real money and they have a lot of money. I don't know to think about that too. It's similar situation.
For YouTubers, it's a different case bud, YouTubers are influencers, even with gambling with fake money and all that, they are still getting paid, they get paid for those how many viewers they got in that video, and the Casino they promoted still pays them too, so in real sense, they are basically not gambling, but only promoting the casino as that is what they are hired to do.
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com
I have never heard or seen your website before. But as you said here I tried to sign up but failed. The country code of my country is not given here due to which I could not create an account here.


My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
Since there is no money gambling, I wouldn't consider it gambling at first. But whenever you make predictions from this website and participate in gambling with those predictions, I will consider it as gambling. Because from here a strong desire to participate in gambling will awaken.
I still don't know why you wouldn't consider it as gambling because money was not involved as first. What about in a case whereby you were given a bonus to play some games and you finally make winnings, would that be consider as gambling? Anything that involves betting, I do consider it as gambling because it can involve anything to make money. There are gambling that do make bet on there horses, animals to make money. If it involves betting then I do see it as gambling.
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From what I can tell, gambling goes inline some risk and that risk involves something on the line for it. So therefore, when gambling, one must place something of good importance for stake. If must gamble, then one must present something of huge importance to gamble. So I believe using money alone does not cover as gambling. One can put in place  anything of value or precious assets if one must gamble because that alone shows the gambling spirit.

If there is nothing put at stake, then it is not worth the name gamble. For gambling involves a high level risk taking venture.
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What is the fun in gambling when rewards and money are not involved, and what makes gambling to be gambling is the stake ability and expected outcome and reception of those winning.

So I can't play at any casino if it doesn't allow me to stake on the others since we know the destinations those games are communing
There are a lot of youtubers who play casino with not real money and they have a lot of money. I don't know to think about that too. It's similar situation.
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Yes, it really is a waste of time, but on many occasions I have played for real money at once and it has not gone well for me and what I have done is lose money, it happens to me a lot when they are games that I have not played. never played, I don't know, but one day happened to me with KENO, it's a game that if you don't know it and you start playing just for the sake of playing , you lose money , and I thought I wasn't going to lose anything, but things got out of hand and I started to losing and losing, until I said no more, and I stopped, that money that I lost in that game because I didn't understand how it is, I didn't get it back , I started playing the games that I did know.

I am not saying that playing some few free games is bad but for the fact that free games are effective ways to pass time from excessive loses, because when you have gamble for a while and have lost consistently, the best available option is to cut off your staking and if possible option in for free games.

But we must know that not all casinos offer free games in form of demo games that give players the real experience of playing such games and in most cases what their do is to give less exciting and fun games as free games and only a lot to good games to the bet category.

So the best none staking games still remains the known traditional games that we can play peer 2 peer such as ludo, whots and the rest.
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com
I have never heard or seen your website before. But as you said here I tried to sign up but failed. The country code of my country is not given here due to which I could not create an account here.


My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
Since there is no money gambling, I wouldn't consider it gambling at first. But whenever you make predictions from this website and participate in gambling with those predictions, I will consider it as gambling. Because from here a strong desire to participate in gambling will awaken.
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