Topic: Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? - page 20. (Read 4836 times)

When gambling gain prominent was when gaming became monetized and players now earned money while playing games and this have also been the reason why the increase in playing time by many gamblers, this have it ups and down and one of such up and down is the high rate of gambling addictions among people, this is were the player for the reason of chasing loses or winnings end up getting tied down by addictions this is what has given it some negative overview, and another consideration is the place of providing an extra source of income for gamblers and this is in most underdeveloped countries the majority of the gaming fans are now in for the winning since their use it to take care of one or two of their needs.
So money is at the centre of gambling activities,  and whether or not a player chooses to play free games or stake money directly one thing must be spent which is time.

I've been thinking of it and realised that for some people it is still gambling, even though their money is not at stake. What is at stake is their mental health. Suppose they win that free bet and start gambling from then on. Later they may become gambling addicts, and isn't that a terrible loss for them? So, we shouldn't say to those people, "It's not gambling. Go ahead!". Although there's only a small percentage of such people we still should care about them.

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern how gambling works.
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If by "other" you are referring to another human gambler, then you need to know that the concept of you winning and others losing only comes when there is a multiplayer game being played and you are not against the house only, because in most gambling games, you are up against the house and in that case, it is only you who either win or lose and mostly you lose because of the house edge.

Luck is obviously the only element that you need in gambling to succeed, otherwise, no matter how much money you carry with you when entering a casino, you will come out empty handed if you don't have luck on your side.

Indeed things are like that, but because of this, what can I say about the risk? everything in life represents a risk, there are no achievements if something is not risked, we always have something to lose, but if these things that we have to risk if we do not risk them we will not find a way to gain something more, all those who they are successful, it is because they have taken risks, the big losers are also those who risked a lot and luck was not on their side, but even so, some have been able to get up and others have not , this type of thing is what we should always have as examples Fortunately, we own our own risks , and this is what makes us Still have Freedom.

On the time that you are seeing someone who do make out some profits on doing gambling then it would really be normal that you would really be having that kind of impression on which you would really be that
having in mind that you would really be needing to follow or you would really be that interested on doing such thing and hoping that you would experience the same which it is really that not a good idea to have.Gambling is something that should really be for fun and not for income seeking because it doesnt really fit out with that kind of criteria because thats not how it works or do.
Gambling is pertaining about taking a bet for a certain game or whatsoever which do involves money or simply with having the risks, if we are speaking on something which is a free bet but still have
the chance on winning some prizes then it is really that risk free or not really gambling at all.

I agree on previous pages on telling that these kind of situations or conditions are really that surely a promotional ones or something that it is temporary. A certain company wont really be
making this offering for lasting that long but rather it would be a short one. They cant just able to sustain on giving it out for long time on where giving out chances to people
on getting winning amounts without risking something or on the benefit of the casino alone.

People really choose the kind of gambling that won't because actually what they needed is to make a profit why some people follow the step of other people to play gambling because in their mind said they think that they are malisis of those people will come to pass or we'll make them to me the gambling so there is different way people operate in gambling some people strategies is based on other person quotation or other person's prediction

The reason why many people choose to gambler is to make more valuable profits from what they do. You put your money so that you can make more money which is simple. If you don't bet we'll or have to amounts of luck for you to make a winning, then you are going to lose money totally without getting it back. You win other lose, if other win, you lose. Simple pattern how gambling works.

I agree, because the word Risk is embedded in the very concept of gambling. That is, one of two or more partners risks something when he makes a kind of deal with another participant.
And what do we risk when we don't bet anything?
Therefore, gambling, which is not related to money, is not gambling. It's more like computer games, when you experience emotions, but it's not more than that.

And you are right, imo, because gambling, by definition, is about staking something valuable. Yes, some activities, when nothing valuable is at stake, still called "gambling" sometimes, but those cases are the topic of discussion rather on linguistic forums than here in Gambling section.

Yes, you are right, what is at stake must be in the form of, for example, money, assets or property so that it can be said that something must be at stake in gambling, but to bet in the form of time it cannot be said to be gambling either because it is not in the form of value and can be given to others in some form, but the longer this thread the less it makes sense.

Just look, many don't understand the meaning of what OP wrote in this thread, after all, many have gone off topic, back to the topic that any gambling without money will be called gambling because it could be in the form of assets or property that can be staked and given to the winner. , in contrast to time.

There's what people called free giveaways, where you're permitted to join a quest for receiving anything for free if you're lucky or being eligible, gambling is all about playing games, both live or virtual games and sports, you bet by using your money to stand in for you that if your prediction is accurate, you stand a chance to make a winning, i don't count anything that does not do with money a gambling because you're not staking anything for such.

You people should not get this wrong as this thread as become long some people still do not understand that gambling requires money. If you are given no money but to make a free bet, it is not gambling. What has not money required may also not be related to gambling at all. The free bet can just be a way to lure people to gambling sites so that they can begin to gamble too after they deposit money. It is money you put into something, or anything like property, asset etc, inorder to make more that should be called gambling, but if it is only your time you put to it and no money or anything of value require, that is another aspect we can talk about like politics, not gambling. Gambling means using something of value to bet inorder to earn more of something valuable too.

    -   Well, that's your assumption, How can you say that the word "Persevere" is relevant if your winning is based on luck? But actually what we're talking about here makes sense because of this thing.

Now, the game chess for me is a sports and maybe for others it is a gambling type, which really uses the mind and strategy, but in the game of slots, Baccarat, in my opinion it does not require as much as chess game.

But it would really be called gambling still but on the essence on how its been done, although it wasnt really totally a gambling since there's no money involved with this on which it is really that totally understandable and easy to understand on whats their difference in speaking about gambling. It is true that this is an unusual stuff on where there's some company that giving out that kind of opportunity
on which you could really make out some bets without the need on risking your own money and it isnt really that gambling at all. If you are really that engaging into this then it would really be something that pleasurable considering that you could really still able to make winnings without having risks or risk free which is something that really uncommon nowadays.
Usually it would really be something that promotional or really that temporary because they cant really be just having this kind of thing forever.

Intriguing perspective! Indeed, virtues and gambling might seem like oil and water. But let's consider this: virtues aren't just for virtuous actions. Even in contexts we wouldn't consider "virtuous," we can bring our virtues to bear.

Let's dissect this patience angle. Patience, when applied to gambling, isn't about sanctifying the act but rather mitigating impulsivity, promoting strategic thinking, and managing potential losses.

Coming to luck, yes, it's the driving force in some games, like slots. You could say it's like tossing a coin into a wishing well and hoping for the best. But for sports betting, it's a different beast altogether. It's like a game of chess; you need to understand the teams, the players, the strategies. Betting on sports blindly is akin to jumping off a plane without checking your parachute - not recommended.

I don't think it's gambling, but it is a gift to be given to them randomly, the context of gambling must have a bet in it, it can only be said to be a gambling, but if there is no bet it is not gambling in my opinion, it is more like you get a coupon with prizes In Super Market after you shop for free, then if the number you get appears on the winner's match you get it. Or you get a door prize on a leisurely walk or marathon event, when you are not asked to pay the requirements to get the lottery number then it is not gambling but it is more to the event with random prizes.

Relying on luck depends greatly on the game the gambler is playing, so it is not on the gamblers hand to rely on luck, the game the gambler decides to play is what determines whether the gambler should rely on luck or not..
For example, somebody playing online slot games have no other choice or option, other than to rely on luck, on the other hand, somebody who's betting on sports matches must be force to always follow up on games, by watching the match or following the live scores of every match, this is how the gambler gets to learn about different teams and their abilities, and inabilities, this help to know which team to put your Bet On anything there is a match coming up or going on..

Any gambler who is betting on sports games and really completely on luck will only loose until he or she is completely frustrated with gambling.

Even in the world of gambling patience is a virtue. It is not always needed to be in a monk to be called as a virtue sometimes even in any area of life we have the patience then we can win with the help of it. Online gambling is no different in this aspect because the patient gamblers always know that when to place the bets in order to have more chance of a winning bet. The impatient gamblers just play to multiply their money and they think that all the bets will favor them in winning.

The gambling should be done with care as our emotions can have bad impact on the performance. I think it's always better to gamble as a hobby not as a addiction. You should do it for fun and it should promote happiness rather than stress and other types of sadness in the gambler. A gambler should never rely on luck, he/she should learn the game and only place bets when things are in favor.

It's not recommended to gamble by relying on luck only because most of the times the luck isn't good and it won't favor the gambler. I think that our emotions can impact the luck as well, IDK how but they do have some power that can make us lucky or unlucky. I'm not into psychic things so I'm newbie in that domain but still it's always a better choice to gamble with logic and smartness rather than relying on luck only.

    -   In the first place, I want you to know that I want to criticize what you are saying here. You mentioned that patience is like an Art.
I agree with what you said and I have no argument with you on this matter either. Now, for my opinion, a person's patience has no relation to playing gambling. Because being patient belongs to the so-called virtues and gambling is not included in the word "Virtues".

But I still agree with what you said that if we gamble it should only be done as a hobby or just for fun, it shouldn't cause us stress or problems in the end just because we lost playing gambling. Gambling skills are also not necessary if you are the type of gambler who relies on luck.

I've never heard about this website. Are you promoting it? I don't want to visit suspicious links.
No, of course that it doesn't qualify as gambling. Google Play and the Apple Appstore are full with "pay-to-win" mobile games, where you have to buy in-game items in order to win the game. does this qualify as gambling? Your example is a bit different, but this isn't gambling, since the players don't bet their own money. I wonder what is the business model of this superpicks.com website? How the website owners are making enough money to pay the winners and accumulate enough profits to keep the business running?