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It might not be boring when you are playing in demo mode but it is obviously more exciting if real money is involved since if you hit a big win in a demo account, you get nothing but if the same happens when you are playing with real money, that gives you a lot of money.
It should be noted that when we gamble using the demo mode, big wins can be obtained easily and this happens to make gamblers even more curious so they deposit some money to play for real.
But when gamblers play using the money they deposit, let alone big wins for small wins it seems difficult to get.
Indeed, using deposited money can make a profit if you win, but if you are just entertaining yourself, it's better to stick with the demo mode.
Playing gambling with counterfeit money on a demo account is also called gambling even though it is a counterfeit money and cannot be cashed with real money, but usually this demo mode can be used for the first test for beginners to try the game in the casino, usually using this demo account will always be Often win a lot, making people interested in trying to gamble with real money. But instead often experience defeat when playing with real money.

Demo account mode is not the same as playing with real accounts, because the fact is already set to give you a victory in demo mode, I often test every casino even I often get more victories in the demo account than the real money account at the casino.  Grin
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It might not be boring when you are playing in demo mode but it is obviously more exciting if real money is involved since if you hit a big win in a demo account, you get nothing but if the same happens when you are playing with real money, that gives you a lot of money.
It should be noted that when we gamble using the demo mode, big wins can be obtained easily and this happens to make gamblers even more curious so they deposit some money to play for real.
But when gamblers play using the money they deposit, let alone big wins for small wins it seems difficult to get.
Indeed, using deposited money can make a profit if you win, but if you are just entertaining yourself, it's better to stick with the demo mode.
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In my way of learning, I am self-taught and I don't like to risk my money just like that, I always do tests, the advantage that casinos have is to put the games in test mode to verify everything, the emotions with the casino when it is with Real money things get good because it is when they are most enjoyed, the adrenaline is activated, things begin to flow with more emotion, without money the player becomes less attentive, it may seem boring and he does not like it, what they do not understand it is that in test mode you can make a mistake and nothing happens, on the other hand if you make a mistake in real mode it is a loss of money and it is not the idea.
I think everyone will have the same kind of feelings and emotions about their money, losing it just like that will probably hurt as earning money is not a joke for anyone. And you are right that it is better if you get to test a game or a service so that you can practice a little bit before you get involved with real money and start playing or using the service for real.

It might not be boring when you are playing in demo mode but it is obviously more exciting if real money is involved since if you hit a big win in a demo account, you get nothing but if the same happens when you are playing with real money, that gives you a lot of money.
the results will also be different when you play a demo account which tends to be programmed to make the player's experience more interesting with multiple wins.
but when using real money, we will experience some pressure that makes us more careful not to lose. that's humane, even though actually when we gamble in the casino, we have to be prepared to lose.
but if you just want to have fun and play experience, using a demo account first is not a problem. it can be lucrative for beginners.
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In my way of learning, I am self-taught and I don't like to risk my money just like that, I always do tests, the advantage that casinos have is to put the games in test mode to verify everything, the emotions with the casino when it is with Real money things get good because it is when they are most enjoyed, the adrenaline is activated, things begin to flow with more emotion, without money the player becomes less attentive, it may seem boring and he does not like it, what they do not understand it is that in test mode you can make a mistake and nothing happens, on the other hand if you make a mistake in real mode it is a loss of money and it is not the idea.
I think everyone will have the same kind of feelings and emotions about their money, losing it just like that will probably hurt as earning money is not a joke for anyone. And you are right that it is better if you get to test a game or a service so that you can practice a little bit before you get involved with real money and start playing or using the service for real.

It might not be boring when you are playing in demo mode but it is obviously more exciting if real money is involved since if you hit a big win in a demo account, you get nothing but if the same happens when you are playing with real money, that gives you a lot of money.
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I have seen that there are many players who bet in this way, even they are not boxing nymphs,they only bet because the fight is relevant and they have ways to win,we who like fights and sports see this in another way,from the way of betting because we like it, because we know the abilities of many boxers, some of us practice the sport and we know Something,and that is much more information that helps us when making a good bet and yet sometimes we still lose bets,so Gamblers who are just gambling must feel empty in some way.

Being able to bet and at the same time witness a match or battle is very exciting and is enjoyed by many gamblers, so it's only natural that many do it.
I myself like betting and being able to witness it firsthand because it gives higher adrenaline and extraordinary satisfaction.
That way I can also gain experience in a match or battle so that in the future I will be even better when making predictions for bets.
We can get information anywhere as long as there is a will to get it, but unfortunately there are still some gamblers who don't pay attention to such things and they bet without having sufficient information or experience so that they often lose.

Just as you have said, I like it when I bet live online seeing my game play gives me comfort to some extent but not to believing in what I see though because all the device used in playing the games are all programmed software which can easily be manipulated at all odds. I have had the experience before so I know what I am talking about not to talk of when you win  regular and the casino noticed it and begin to out an eye on your games wanting to find a fault as to stop you from playing and possibly labeling your account as a defaulter for possible bam or suspension bit unfortunately they could not do that to me because it was a live casino and I was watching and seeing what was happening until a sudden change in their activities which made me to suspect an unusual move by the team live online. I noticed every thing that very moment and they left the game room and after a while they returned after I had chat them up to know why they left the room while the game was on but no one replied me. Then I knew something was wrong as I could not cancel the game again as o already placed a bet live online and when they came back, they spinner the roulette game and I lost everything I had won that day, my big wins  that very moment all gone. Since then, I had to stop playing with the casino.
Each experience is something new, if we start playing in a somewhat uncontrolled way we can lose many horizons, among them the ones we seek the most, which is to win, and when we focus only on winning and not accepting the normal losses that occur in a In the game of chance we begin to fail and that is where the mistake of many who believe that casinos are like automatic cashiers that are going to melt when a player makes a request, that is where the problems begin until they lose everything, that is why self-control It must always exist in any environment.
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In my way of learning, I am self-taught and I don't like to risk my money just like that, I always do tests, the advantage that casinos have is to put the games in test mode to verify everything, the emotions with the casino when it is with Real money things get good because it is when they are most enjoyed, the adrenaline is activated, things begin to flow with more emotion, without money the player becomes less attentive, it may seem boring and he does not like it, what they do not understand it is that in test mode you can make a mistake and nothing happens, on the other hand if you make a mistake in real mode it is a loss of money and it is not the idea.

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It depends on what an individual interpret gambling to be in his own understanding, some make fun and I'm doing this during the leisure time, they bet on something after which they have sustained alot of argument from the discussion, which is also a physical form of gambling as long as money is involved and they have made a bet to seal it up, if money is not involved, it would be termed only an argument but once you argue and put money on the outcome anticipated for, it's a form of gambling, that's why you will not see a gambling platform that will not require from you a staking amount for your bet, wxce it's not gambling at all.
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Demo account is still gambling imo just you arent risking anything either, its hard to say as it literally is a practice account but also its still the same game.    Some people say the same thing about gambling small amounts but its all relative to your own boundaries and personal limits.  I still count it as gambling, if you won 10x in a row would you ignore the win as not real because it wasnt for money.  I have to disagree the gambling works as a game even when you dont gamble big or even gamble money at all I believe thats important to keep as a core thing or possibly the entire game just turns into a circle of money and stressful tbh.
   I think its even possible people learn more relieved of the money factor, just play and explore the game then add money and keep it as icing on the cake to every win or loss with your game, bets, etc.
Playing gambling games on a demo account with fake money is something totally different than a fantasy game which you can play free of cost and get the opportunity to win real money, you can call playing with a demo account gambling because that's literally gambling only with fake money, but playing a game with no money involved only to win a prize if you win shouldn't be considered gambling.

The thing is very clear, whatever game you play that involves having something at stake, be it fake money, real money, a belonging, a thing, or anything in the world, that would make it gambling, but, when you play a game where there is nothing up at stake but you can just win something if you manage to win, that isn't gambling.
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Well, maybe it's just a joke for people who do moneyless gambling and it seems it has happened to some people. But even so, it's still fun because we've had so much fun with them and maybe next time we'll gamble with money. And those who gamble without money are just looking for fun that doesn't risk losing money so some people do it anyway. And whether we realize it or not, we can get carried away too deeply into the fun and in the end, we can use real money.

In principle, playing without money gives a person experience and good preparation for playing for money. But when a person knows he has nothing to lose, it can lead to some complacency. And when it comes to playing for money, a person may continue his somewhat frivolous attitude. 
The lesson he got was that gambling can give you losses and he must be prepared to lose his money. He has nothing to lose if he gambles without money but once he decides to use money, that's when he has to realize that the risks will come and can take the money at any time. And it also teaches a person to be careful if he wants to play gambling with money so that he can also set limits before deciding.
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It can be interesting experiment. You can learn to play some new games in such a way, you can try to predict something or test some ideas. But the main test is where you bet your own money. Until this moment your predictions can be good only for you. How someone can believe your prediction if you don`t ready to prove your words with money?
Yes demo account is mainly for learners who want to play some free games without real time deposits on fake accounts,  but then in most cases the quality of the games are not the same with those that are played with real money,  since the winning is what excite many of us,  it's important to also note the place and role of having your bet at stake.

That alone increase the ability of the player to make the best decisions while playing the games,  and since there is a difference between free games and monetized games.
Yes, it is usually up to the individual to gamble without money. Demo account does not involve real money, trading is performed with real time market data. Being a newbie to online gaming, no deposit bonus codes or free offers may be tempting for you. Those who especially want to play real money games get it most of the time. In fact, your cash is risk free here as the no deposit bonus offers risk-free gaming. There may be some incentives for new players.
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Well, maybe it's just a joke for people who do moneyless gambling and it seems it has happened to some people. But even so, it's still fun because we've had so much fun with them and maybe next time we'll gamble with money. And those who gamble without money are just looking for fun that doesn't risk losing money so some people do it anyway. And whether we realize it or not, we can get carried away too deeply into the fun and in the end, we can use real money.

In principle, playing without money gives a person experience and good preparation for playing for money. But when a person knows he has nothing to lose, it can lead to some complacency. And when it comes to playing for money, a person may continue his somewhat frivolous attitude. 
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Demo account is still gambling imo just you arent risking anything either, its hard to say as it literally is a practice account but also its still the same game.    Some people say the same thing about gambling small amounts but its all relative to your own boundaries and personal limits.  I still count it as gambling, if you won 10x in a row would you ignore the win as not real because it wasnt for money.  I have to disagree the gambling works as a game even when you dont gamble big or even gamble money at all I believe thats important to keep as a core thing or possibly the entire game just turns into a circle of money and stressful tbh.
   I think its even possible people learn more relieved of the money factor, just play and explore the game then add money and keep it as icing on the cake to every win or loss with your game, bets, etc.
Yes, even though using fake money on a demo account can also be said to be gambling in the training stage, because using something in the form of value at stake even though it has no value is still said to be gambling, all people's views are different, so some will say this is not gambling and some say this is still called gambling.

Whatever form it takes, whatever type of asset or object is at stake, it is still said to be gambling because you don't always have to use money to gamble because it can be in any form and has value.

It is only playing or gaming.  Without any form of risk we cannot say the activity is gambling,  It is obvious that we are playing in a gambling platform but the discussion is the activity which is playing in a demo game where we don't stake anything. The discussion is also not about the future event where in time, the demo testing will then be in real betting and wagering mode.  Let us not think too much of the environment to not be confused.  Let us try to isolate the present activity not the future.

For example, trying a demo slots game.  Isolate the activity there and don't think anything about the platform or the possible next activity.

In a demo game, we play with fake money or play money. So the bet is fake, the risk is fake and the winnings will be obviously fake.  Meaning it is a fake gambling activity.  we all know that fake means not true or  not original.  Simply put, playing with a demo slot game is not originally gambling.
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      -  But there are movies I've seen where when a gambler bet in a casino and when he still loses, what they pay is a car or expensive jewelry in exchange for their loss and the casino also agrees, even if it's just a movie is possibly also true in reality.

That means, even if money is not used for gambling, as long as you have something that you have done in a casino, it can still be considered gambling.

Well, movies is another story, mate. I've never seen a single one where gambling was depicted truthfully.

But back to the topic. In this thread by "money" we mean anything that has some value, so, you are right, if we put something valuable at stake, not necessarily money, that's gambling, of course.

The thing is that whether the coins from the faucet are valuable is a big question, because the amount is so small that you can't withdraw it.
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Gambling without money can be seen as not gambling because finance is the major thing that triggers people to go into gambling for the sake of making profits from it. If you decide to bet without money involving in it, the two parties may not take it that seriously because they believe that money is nit involved in the bet so everyone that make the bet will not take it too seriously because funds is not involved.
Well, maybe it's just a joke for people who do moneyless gambling and it seems it has happened to some people. But even so, it's still fun because we've had so much fun with them and maybe next time we'll gamble with money. And those who gamble without money are just looking for fun that doesn't risk losing money so some people do it anyway. And whether we realize it or not, we can get carried away too deeply into the fun and in the end, we can use real money.
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but what about OP's topic is a total free from betting but there is possibilities to win and that is what it stands . according to  internet it is about

Advice to consider if you’re gambling

Set a money limit in advance, and stick to it Before you begin playing, decide what you can afford to spend and commit to it. ...

Walk away from your losses ...
Treat gambling as an expense ...

Set a time limit in advance ...

Notice your feelings ...

Keep other activities in the mix ...

Take lots of breaks ...


this is what says in this link : https://www.bing.com/search?q=how+to+consider+gambling%3F&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&ghc=1&lq=0&pq=how+to+consider+gambling%3F&sc=10-25&sk=&cvid=B246D4E2A44C4F6280B7763B3251A4D1&ghsh=0&ghacc=0&ghpl=

with all of those , I think what ask above is different from being a gambler?and besides what is gambling if you don't need to put a bet, yeah you are wasting time and chances but yet there are still no money from your end.

The list you shared is great! Short sentences and straight to the point. Taking these rules into account, I agree with you that we can't talk about gambling if you don't risk your money.

This doesn't mean that time and attention aren't valuable finite assets too, and there is also a chance to get addicted to games where you don't put your money at stake; but we could easily erase a few sentences from the shared above if we took money out of the equation.
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Gambling without money can be seen as not gambling because finance is the major thing that triggers people to go into gambling for the sake of making profits from it. If you decide to bet without money involving in it, the two parties may not take it that seriously because they believe that money is nit involved in the bet so everyone that make the bet will not take it too seriously because funds is not involved.
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Demo account is still gambling imo just you arent risking anything either, its hard to say as it literally is a practice account but also its still the same game.    Some people say the same thing about gambling small amounts but its all relative to your own boundaries and personal limits.  I still count it as gambling, if you won 10x in a row would you ignore the win as not real because it wasnt for money.  I have to disagree the gambling works as a game even when you dont gamble big or even gamble money at all I believe thats important to keep as a core thing or possibly the entire game just turns into a circle of money and stressful tbh.
   I think its even possible people learn more relieved of the money factor, just play and explore the game then add money and keep it as icing on the cake to every win or loss with your game, bets, etc.
Actually mate, I on my own perspective see gambling as a game and fun to do but otherwise many seems to see it as a means of income  and ends meet.
Demo account is not bad although it all evolves within the gambling world but here you do not spend money rather you are developing and building up your skills so as to encounter the real world gambling games. This gives you guidelines on how the real gambling looks like so you could know what is before hand and would not be taken unawares.
Irrespective of the amount committed to playing games, they are still tagged gambling because it is a means of you showing your commitment to playing the game and accepting the result that comes out of it.

As you have said In your last paragraph, I advise that who ever wants to gamble should gamble with funds they could afford to loss because that wouldn't bother them as they would see it as fun but if otherwise, lies a big problem for them because no gambling is free and there is no refund of money after betting.
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same as my view because i cant expect myself using all the time i am supposed to gamble for real money in playing in some online free games, it's not possible and if I have much time I will rather spend it gambling for real money because even while we playing for fun, we still have to add money to it to make it more motivating on the long run.

Those that could gamble with demo accounts are the computer gaming freaks and newbies who are looking for ways to familiarise themselves with the casino and its features but aside from that, one will need to gamble staking real money to get the right motivation and drive to play those games.

The majority of people never use the casino in its demo version, it is uncurrent, when you enter a casino the adrenaline does everything, it is known that if it earns with fictional money it is something disappointing, I have had very little with the demo versions,But it is not what we are looking for, because what we are looking for is more fun and we always want the best and if it is to win at once it is much better, because the emotion is also in retreat and that everything flows in the best way, without However, I think that demo versions is for us to realize the risk we are taking when we have little money and risk it will always be difficult.

When it comes to gambling affairs, then money has to be involved because that's the money means to why we call it gambling, let's put it like this that gambling is not complete until we use money to make a bet in it, only the lottery which is synonymous to gambling requires no money before you can partake, then the other example is in the case of those that uses gambling demo videosz games to learn and practice about gambling before they are into gambling fully, this is often common with newbie who are yet to get familiar with gambling experience.
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That's for sure!  This is true! 
If a player does not lose money or something valuable to him in the process of losing in such a game, then this makes his behavior in the game completely different from what it would be if he lost something valuable to him.
 And such a game begins to resemble just a performance, a performance with clowns who do completely absurd things.  It may be funny, of course, and may even amuse the people watching the game, but it's not a real game.  And the emotions from such a fake game are also different.  Although in general it can be quite fun and funny.  But still, the lack of responsibility in making decisions in a game without money turns the game itself into simple entertainment with completely different emotions. 
All this is good for the games of young children and probably even useful for their overall development. 
But when adults do it, it looks rather strange.
And it is awful to play such games when you used to bet your money. You`re waiting some responsibility from the opponent, but he doesn`t risk anything and he doesn`t matter to raise or to drop(for example).
You can just learn some rules if you starts new game, but all the strategy, all steps totally differs with free bet games. After such training you have to study again with serious bets and it may be even $1, doesn`t matter - it means that someone`s risks and take a responsibility for it.
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

My site does not open either through a regular network or via VPN. Probably it is blocked or simply unavailable.
If im don't need to bet money there, but i can win, then what is the point for the creators of this service? I think there are very small winnings, like a couple of dollars, or we understand something wrong. A strange idea.
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