Topic: Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? - page 27. (Read 4827 times)

You're correct, if we use time consuming is a form of gamble, I think most of activity in this world is called as gambling, then all countries should legalize gambling because accept or not, you're live with time.

But stake a valuable thing isn't always gambling, we need to know the original source he get. Someone who's gamble using valuable coins e.g. Bitcoin by claiming through the casino faucet isn't called as gambling since he's not risking anything, he get the coins by free.

You are very right, your comment made me remember an incident that happened in my area one time, this was a long time ago though, happened like around 2008 and so..

A football match was going on and two good friends, one supporting team A while the other was supporting team B, they were watching the match in a viewing center wit lots of crowd.
Both of them were well to do - the one supporting team A said there no way his team will not win the match, and the one supporting team B of course argued that team A will loose to his own team, argument continued until the one supporting team A brought out his car key as a Bet, they both brought out their car keys saying that which ever team wins the match, the one supporting that team will drive away with the two cars.

At the end of the match, team B won, and the one that was supporting team A forcefully collected his car key from their escrow, that was how problem started, in no time, a serious fight broke out, which later lead to two lives lost and several injured, and the irony of the whole thing is that, this two friends who started the whole thing escaped before police arrived the scene and started arresting innocent civilians.

People want to give more excitement with their entertainment that's the reason why they make gambling with this even just a small form of  casual conversation the person's ego wants to win the game to get his pride on it, people take this seriously and people just take it for fun it depends how does it takes in a situation this form of gambling always happen in sports event like there's different biases of players and teams this could be a support to the team you like and at the same time make a gambling to your friends or other people and taking risk if there's money or asset involve.

In my opinion, it's not gambling if you don't stake something valuable, something like money or what you can sell for money. Time is a valuable thing, no doubt about that. But if we go fishing, risking to lose our time and get nothing in return, we don't call it gambling, do we? No one does.

The example in the OP is gambling related, but we shouldn't call it gambling if nothing is at stake, I think.

Playing with demo accounts or gambling games that pay nothing at all might be wasting time, but what if you are playing a game where you can get a reward if you get the highest score without even having to use any money? Doesn't that motivate you enough to play that game and try to get the highest possible score?

I think it becomes more intriguing if you have got the opportunity to win some reward or money by only playing a game without having to put anything up at stake from your end, I would play that game more than games where I will need to stake my money that I may lose.

No. It's called a game. You play, you win or you lose but you didn't really lose anything physically. When I was a kid my cousins use to play cards and whoever loses will fix the cards, shuffle them, and distribute them again. If you are lazy, you won't like doing it.
Did we gamble? No. We just played a game of cards and we didn't actually lose or gain anything. That is why our relatives older than us are just letting us do it because there's no money involved.
Sometimes we forget that the games used in gambling are actually just simple games before without money on the line. Now, when we see them we say it's gambling.

But then sports had been used for betting ever since the ancient times.  If we look back at the history, we often read that gambling is integrated to sports to enhance the satisfaction and entertainment of the said sport.  Adding bet adds more adrenalin to the spectators since there is something they are hoping on the result.


true that as long as there are stake, risk and reward anything can fall under gambling.

Yes, any events could be possibly be tagged up with gambling or making out some bets and this had been through ages now even into those early years or old years which its been applied already.
It just turns out that it did really become that rampant or known nowadays on how its been done or on how its been that applied which its true that these are just sports but turns out that bettors
would really be attaching out on making some betting into it and this is why this industry did boom out even more knowing that there are lots of sports which we could really be able to watch out.

Speaking about doing those gambling activity which doesnt involved money then it is really that something that cant be considered out gambling in the first place.Yes, the action or activity has been made
might really be that in correlate with gambling commonly but since you arent able to put up something or money into its then its not really that gambling after all since its risks-free.

Sports games were never meant to become games that will be used for gambling, they were created and played for physical activities and enjoyment for those playing and those watching as well, but nowadays, sports betting has become so famous that almost every kind of sports game is available for the public to bet on.

So in the world where we live today, every single game can become a gambling game if there are two people willing to have a bet whether it's between two friends, the game becomes a gambling game for them since they've bet something with each other on the winner.

same as my view because i cant expect myself using all the time i am supposed to gamble for real money in playing in some online free games, it's not possible and if I have much time I will rather spend it gambling for real money because even while we playing for fun, we still have to add money to it to make it more motivating on the long run.

Those that could gamble with demo accounts are the computer gaming freaks and newbies who are looking for ways to familiarise themselves with the casino and its features but aside from that, one will need to gamble staking real money to get the right motivation and drive to play those games.

I am not very patient to use casinos with money that is not real, because it stresses me out, that is when I win the most and it is not real money, but it happens to me that when it is like that and I bet with real money, I do not win but the opposite, sometimes Sometimes I don't know if it is better to start with real money than with money that is not real, it is double work, it is double illusion and it can be a double disappointment, but I like that casinos have their versions with non-real money games to show what they can do to others is very good, with that they learn to have control and to know the game they are getting into.

But I don’t see the point in betting with something that is not money.  It seems to me that gambling can only be for money.
 Well, at least for something that has a value expressed in money.  When a person does not lose anything and does not win in terms of money, then this seems to me like some kind of child's game.  But it is played by children and not adults, and for adults it is not interesting.  However, I won’t undertake to say that I’m 100% right. Some of you may consider gambling without money as gambling, It’s just that emotions are completely different. 
Everyone will probably agree with this.!

Betting can be done with or without money, there's so many things that can be used in place of money and your time can also be used. Sites that allow you to bet without money is just doing a marketing strategy that'll benefit them as they gain more traffic.

When a site has more traffic regularly, they can convince their potential clients to use their sites for promotion and they get paid from that or they register for Google adsense which they can use to generate revenue for that site to use in maintaining it.

Gambling is anything that's done depending on just luck and a little skills involvement. Gambling isn't only done in sport or slot games. You can also gamble in  investment as those investors that just buy a coin and hope for the best profits are gamblers as well.

The bet on the sports makes it more exciting.  Imagine you are watching your favorite team playing and aside from that, you have a bet that your favorite team will win.  That scenario is actually an adrenaline pump especially if you are like the person who bet 1m+ for his favorite team.

Well even with suffice experience, sometimes luck plays with you and makes an upset result giving favor to the underdog.


Well, there are people who plays for fun.  They are not entirely for profit but they just want to enjoy their free time playing gambling games regardless of the result.  This is called a hobby.

Gambling? Undeniably addictive. While it may add excitement to games, realize that addiction always has a cost.There are, of course, skilled gamblers who use strategy to gain an advantage. But dependency and economic collapse? Is close by, hiding. How do you know when your gambling has crossed the line into unhealthy obsession? It's a convoluted puzzle that calls for serious consideration and discussion. There's no denying the seedy underbelly of the gambling industry. Let's help those with gambling addictions and promote responsible gambling.

Just as you have said, I like it when I bet live online seeing my game play gives me comfort to some extent but not to believing in what I see though because all the device used in playing the games are all programmed software which can easily be manipulated at all odds. I have had the experience before so I know what I am talking about not to talk of when you win  regular and the casino noticed it and begin to out an eye on your games wanting to find a fault as to stop you from playing and possibly labeling your account as a defaulter for possible bam or suspension bit unfortunately they could not do that to me because it was a live casino and I was watching and seeing what was happening until a sudden change in their activities which made me to suspect an unusual move by the team live online. I noticed every thing that very moment and they left the game room and after a while they returned after I had chat them up to know why they left the room while the game was on but no one replied me. Then I knew something was wrong as I could not cancel the game again as o already placed a bet live online and when they came back, they spinner the roulette game and I lost everything I had won that day, my big wins  that very moment all gone. Since then, I had to stop playing with the casino.

I agree that the experience of watching the results of sports competitions certainly gives the player such information that allows him to make more and more deliberate and apparently correct betting decisions. 
It is obvious that the probability of winning such a player increases with time and experience, although I think not very much.  Finally, the peak of professionalism comes, when the probability of winning from the bets of such a player reaches a maximum.  However, then the reverse process still begins. 
I think that it is inevitable, and the operating time on rates is starting to be lost.  Of course, such a player will never sink to the level of an inexperienced player, but he will never reach the peak of his forecasts, which was in the past. 
This is how I evaluate the career of professionals in this field, in the field of sports betting.

Being able to bet and at the same time witness a match or battle is very exciting and is enjoyed by many gamblers, so it's only natural that many do it.
I myself like betting and being able to witness it firsthand because it gives higher adrenaline and extraordinary satisfaction.
That way I can also gain experience in a match or battle so that in the future I will be even better when making predictions for bets.
We can get information anywhere as long as there is a will to get it, but unfortunately there are still some gamblers who don't pay attention to such things and they bet without having sufficient information or experience so that they often lose.

All of that is gambling since you can lose something with it, but also I would say playing with imaginary coins or demo money can be gambling if you care about it. If you are in competition with your friends who will collect more money it's still gambling.

What do you means that there are gamblers that just do it as a hobby? Did you mean the gamblers that just play game for fun and there is no money involved? If that is it, they are not gamblers because gamblers uses money to gamble.

Gold, Silver or anything used to gamble like that are money too. Some people can use other things to gamble too, like property. But gambling with property is stupidity to me.