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legendary
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I am stupid, so please explain.

Do I get it correct, I can place a free bet, there is not futher wagering requirement and there are people that who are amazed of that?

Ever heard of faucets? Claim as much as you want and place bets, play games. What is so special about superpicks.com ? Many casinos give "free money". Duelbits sometimes give 1 dollar free bets, Sportsbet have prediction challenges with free bets prizes, BetFury has BTC faucet. I see nothing worth discussing 10 pages here...

Btw, as to "without money" and "gambling". Arent in China (or other Asian country), people gamble with small aluminium balls, because direct gambling is prohibited, but later exchange those balls for fiat? Because such betting with small balls does not count as gambling with money Cheesy
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As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.
Sometimes we forget that it is gambling and still think it is not gambling. We think that anything that uses money is gambling, whereas that does not use money, it is not gambling so in predicting it, we say it is not gambling. But as you said, whatever it is, if there is value to be gained from predictions, it is gambling. Well, that is the response from people only.
Actually the response to this Op case is still a hot topic of conversation because everyone has different opinions and thoughts, like now you think it's gambling because there are several risk triggers to gamble using real money.
For myself, betting for free to get real prizes from the results of this prediction can be considered open gambling as long as we consider this only a game that allows us to earn money from this guessing or prediction game.
But it will be gambling if the person is triggered by this prediction and bets using personal money to predict, then this is gambling.
So all responses return to their respective mindsets.
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  -   Exactly, how can you say a gamble that you have not made any bets on a game that has no actual loss or win if it is just a prediction.

It's not like we're just wasting time and time if we do this kind of thing that I can't even say is a game in the gambling industry. And I also don't understand if they can still be called players who will participate in this.
Which one is wasting time? someone who participate a prediction to win some money without need to spend any money or he gamble with faucet until he met minimum amount to withdraw aren't wasting time for them. Most of them are live in third world countries where they don't mind only get $1-$2 for spend 2 hours because it's bigger than their current job in real life.

The casino will don't mind to giveaway $50 if they get a lot traffic, so I'd say it's a win-win situation.
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As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.
Sometimes we forget that it is gambling and still think it is not gambling. We think that anything that uses money is gambling, whereas that does not use money, it is not gambling so in predicting it, we say it is not gambling. But as you said, whatever it is, if there is value to be gained from predictions, it is gambling. Well, that is the response from people only.
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
About your question, no  i dont know that page, because seems like a local page from your country, b ut still very similar to another ones.
Yes they give money, but its """"for free"""" this kind of page are entry gates to the gambling world, to people who doesnt want yet to put his money.

So they dont make this because they are good, they make this thinking in catch some new players, you can see the advertisement of one bet page.

Also i think they sell some data to info/data analizers about what people think about X match.
There's always a catch because they cant really just give out some prizes for free without any benefits, if we do make out some conversion into the said prize then it is really still that big. The question is, where they do get those amounts from to be given out from winning? Sounds impossible right, this is where we would really be assuming about those info/data which they might really be compensating but well
we cant really make out some pointing fingers because of having no such proof.

Gambling cant be called gambling if there would be no money gets involved or something you do risk on even not on monetary form.
We know that we arent taking up some risks or we cant lose something which means its not gambling at all.
If the site given was legit then it wont really be that bad to participate considering that it is really just that free for you to get involved with
plus having the chance on winning.

  -   Exactly, how can you say a gamble that you have not made any bets on a game that has no actual loss or win if it is just a prediction.

It's not like we're just wasting time and time if we do this kind of thing that I can't even say is a game in the gambling industry. And I also don't understand if they can still be called players who will participate in this.
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As long as there's a risk involved and it is some kind of prediction, win or lose type of games, then I would always consider it as a form of gambling.
Sometimes even if it's not directly money as long as it have a value and it is being risk then yes it is gambling.
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
About your question, no  i dont know that page, because seems like a local page from your country, b ut still very similar to another ones.
Yes they give money, but its """"for free"""" this kind of page are entry gates to the gambling world, to people who doesnt want yet to put his money.

So they dont make this because they are good, they make this thinking in catch some new players, you can see the advertisement of one bet page.

Also i think they sell some data to info/data analizers about what people think about X match.
There's always a catch because they cant really just give out some prizes for free without any benefits, if we do make out some conversion into the said prize then it is really still that big. The question is, where they do get those amounts from to be given out from winning? Sounds impossible right, this is where we would really be assuming about those info/data which they might really be compensating but well
we cant really make out some pointing fingers because of having no such proof.

Gambling cant be called gambling if there would be no money gets involved or something you do risk on even not on monetary form.
We know that we arent taking up some risks or we cant lose something which means its not gambling at all.
If the site given was legit then it wont really be that bad to participate considering that it is really just that free for you to get involved with
plus having the chance on winning.
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There are kinds of gambling we play in our local settings doesn't demand the inclusion of money, it's all for the fun that comes with it and it's still regarded as gambling just same way with the superpick game. They're all gambling without or without money involved.

You are just playing a game of chance.  It is a common misconception that when they are playing with cards or any game of chance or skill, they thought they are already gambling.  It is easy to identify what is gambling and what is not.  The common factor of a gambling activity is when you put a bet or stake to win a prize.  It was just listed on the earlier reply that the factor to consider an activity to be a gambling is the presence of these 3 elements.

 Gambling elements
  • Stake
  • Risk
  • Reward

About your question, no  i dont know that page, because seems like a local page from your country, b ut still very similar to another ones.
Yes they give money, but its """"for free"""" this kind of page are entry gates to the gambling world, to people who doesnt want yet to put his money.
So they dont make this because they are good, they make this thinking in catch some new players, you can see the advertisement of one bet page.

True that it is to bait players but the question in hand is whether it is an act of gambling if your join the promo that is stake-free and can win a prize if the prediction is correct.

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
If it involves money, prediction and the anticipation that you'll gonna win or there's some kind of competition, I think that can be categorized as gambling. It still anticipates a reward at the end so for me that's still gambling.

Nope it isn't gambling for the reason that there is no stake or bet involved.
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My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
If it involves money, prediction and the anticipation that you'll gonna win or there's some kind of competition, I think that can be categorized as gambling. It still anticipates a reward at the end so for me that's still gambling.
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

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About your question, no  i dont know that page, because seems like a local page from your country, b ut still very similar to another ones.
Yes they give money, but its """"for free"""" this kind of page are entry gates to the gambling world, to people who doesnt want yet to put his money.

So they dont make this because they are good, they make this thinking in catch some new players, you can see the advertisement of one bet page.

Also i think they sell some data to info/data analizers about what people think about X match.
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There are kinds of gambling we play in our local settings doesn't demand the inclusion of money, it's all for the fun that comes with it and it's still regarded as gambling just same way with the superkick game. They're all gambling without or without money involved.
I think what make games to be referred to as gambling is the involvement of stake amounts if there is no stake it can just be referred to as a playing game, but as soon as you can win and bet it gambling ait requires some level of financial input at some point.

I understand the kind of games you are talking about, bit those games are not in gambling categories and are just playing for fun and nothing more.
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In my opinion.

Everything you do, activity and other think on the casino are gambling. You're not gambling now, but there has some chance you are gonna to gambling soon in the future. The temptation are high, If you are stay on gambling sector.

So, I call it gambling. It's promotion, you get free money soon you're losing then are gonna triggered you to deposit.
I think somewhat similarly to this, people think that since they have done something a lot of times before then there is no risk in doing those activities, but this is false, something as common as taking a shower can be extremely risky as a great deal of the injuries people suffer on their homes happen there, so when you begin to think about it you will realize there are risks everywhere, the risks are small but they are still there and we simply decide to ignore them as we cannot worry about every single thing all the time.
hero member
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There are kinds of gambling we play in our local settings doesn't demand the inclusion of money, it's all for the fun that comes with it and it's still regarded as gambling just same way with the superpick game. They're all gambling without or without money involved.

From the local settings perspective, when money is not involved in gambling, we may refer to it as game because we can guess or argue about games of different kinds within the neighborhood, when we put in our money, then we are in for taking the risk and we have set in for gambling because in gambling, you make use of money to place a bet before you can enjoy gambling, here you put in all your efforts towards it and have the potential of winning a particular amount in gambling.
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There are kinds of gambling we play in our local settings doesn't demand the inclusion of money, it's all for the fun that comes with it and it's still regarded as gambling just same way with the superpick game. They're all gambling without or without money involved.
You are right friend, this is same thing I pointed out in my previous comment, gambling is gambling, whether  money is involved or not, when money is involved, we gamble for the money, but when money is not involved, we gamble for the fun of it.

At least I can see people who think the same way as mine,  because in gambling money don't have to be the only thing of value people put at stake, because just as I said in my previous comment, both our knowledge and skill are things of value that can be gamble upon just in the case of "Superpicks", whereby all a user need is to predict 6 correct scores of a football match and stand the chance of winning over $130, 000 which is quite a huge sum of money, because for the fact that a user needs the predict the outcome of a sporting event, it could be classified as gambling.
legendary
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There are kinds of gambling we play in our local settings doesn't demand the inclusion of money, it's all for the fun that comes with it and it's still regarded as gambling just same way with the superpick game. They're all gambling without or without money involved.
well , thus  that is still a gambling game right? that superpick? is it some kind of lottery ?
i don't know what is this but surely it is something that connected in gambling though
they are not asking for any amount to choose.
maybe this is kind of advertising to lure people get into it?
sorry but just heard it now.

Of course, it can also be an element of an advertising campaign.

But there is another option for which hundreds, thousands or more people begin to respond to free offers in which, theoretically, you can even earn money, or, for example, win some kind of prize or a sum of money.  I am talking about the option of conducting sociological surveys by some authorized organizations, sometimes even related to state authorities, or, in other words, clarifying public opinion or identifying the current moods of the general population.  This option, perhaps, should not be excluded either, because this may well be authorized and paid for by interested persons or authorities.  In the process of people's participation, of course, statistical records are kept on the basis of which either businessmen whose profile of work is gambling, or government officials quite accurately find out what the broad masses of people want and how to further develop the business or how to make other, most likely optimal decisions in the field of public life  .
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After saying this, many would still fall for it as a result of their greed. When it comes to free throws, you would get them many and that is how the get scammed thinking they are wise but not knowing that they are hanging themselves as a result of their greed. With this method as you have said that is how casinos get the greedy gamblers who wants to run away with big wins gotten from free spins given to them as a result of their ongoing bonus. After allowing them to win big, upon withdrawal, they withhold their wins and ask the greedy players to make deposit before they could withdraw and then out of their greed they make deposit and the scam casino run away  with their funds.
It has happened to many people and unfortunately, it does not deter them from avoiding it. They are so caught up with the many offers offered by casinos that they forget to care for themselves while gambling. Maybe at first, they don't see it as gambling but because they follow every game or whatever it's called, they start to become addicted and later, the site will introduce tokens or coins that can be used to bet. And in the end, it will still be the gamble we all know so well. And because those people were used to predicting many matches, with tokens or coins or whatever it was called, they became even more interested. There, they would end up gambling as they had done in other casinos.
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There are kinds of gambling we play in our local settings doesn't demand the inclusion of money, it's all for the fun that comes with it and it's still regarded as gambling just same way with the superpick game. They're all gambling without or without money involved.
well , thus  that is still a gambling game right? that superpick? is it some kind of lottery ?
i don't know what is this but surely it is something that connected in gambling though
they are not asking for any amount to choose.
maybe this is kind of advertising to lure people get into it?
sorry but just heard it now.
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I can open the website, but I am only on my work cell phone today and don't really want to do any gambling related things from it. Tomorrow evening from home I can take a closer look. What I saw was that they offer some kind of N Dollars, no idea what that is. Are you only waging with playmoney here or can you make real profits? It doest matter if real money is involved or not, it's still gambling in my opinion. Same goes for playing poker with playmoney, or joining a lottery without paying for the ticket.
legendary
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

For sure it can be called gambling, since you are able to win, so all the games you watch become more emotional, that's what I'd call gambling spirit... As for not losing money in case of bet team losing, the mood anyway changes, so it can be considered "money loss" as well
Can you please elaborate on how it can be called gambling only because you can win? So anything, where you can win something, can be called gambling? That's a new explanation of gambling for me. I thought gambling is when you put something at stake in order to win something else with it, and the chances are you either win more than what you've staked or lose it all.

The change of your mood is not considered to be a sort of "money loss" at all, it's just upsetting if you don't win if you are playing for free but that doesn't make it gambling since you have nothing to lose even if you don't win and that is now how gambling works.
For someone, you can lose $100 and not be upset at all, and someone can be very upset even after losing $1. 

I think quite a lot depends on where the person plays, what mood and atmosphere he has.  For example, physical casinos in Las Vegas create such an atmosphere that losing $100 in them usually does not upset the player much, but simply creates a state of euphoria and fun in him.  This is the payment for the game and for the pleasure received.  When they play as if without money, as discussed in this thread, it's like something a person loses or gains.  Including the state of the psyche, a different mood. 
But to call such a process a gambling game is most likely wrong.  It's more like just an "emotional swing".  It's like games when children play.  After all, there is no money in such a children's game, but there is fun and excitement.
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

For sure it can be called gambling, since you are able to win, so all the games you watch become more emotional, that's what I'd call gambling spirit... As for not losing money in case of bet team losing, the mood anyway changes, so it can be considered "money loss" as well
Can you please elaborate on how it can be called gambling only because you can win? So anything, where you can win something, can be called gambling? That's a new explanation of gambling for me. I thought gambling is when you put something at stake in order to win something else with it, and the chances are you either win more than what you've staked or lose it all.

The change of your mood is not considered to be a sort of "money loss" at all, it's just upsetting if you don't win if you are playing for free but that doesn't make it gambling since you have nothing to lose even if you don't win and that is now how gambling works.
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