Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? - page 33.

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Quote from: danadc on April 25, 2023, 05:25:04 PM

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Quote from: Kasabus on April 25, 2023, 04:21:01 AM

~ Right. For me, this is more of a marketing strategy so that those who might predict correctly might be gambling sooner and start to wager an amount to bet. Maybe for now, what the site is offering is not gambling yet, but knowing this is a gambling site, it will eventually tempt you to bet an amount the next time you play in it as the rewards are quite impressive and promising. The end point here is to see you finally gambling in their site so they can start profiting from your funds.

I agree, the site from the OP isn't a gambling site itself, but it refers you to a real gambling site(anyone can see it after going by the link). So, I wouldn't recommend using the predictor to underage youth and to people with potential gambling problems. Other than that, if it will be referring you only to honest platforms, it looks totally fine to me.

Yeah eventually you'll going to play when you feel that you are good in predicting games, not recommendable to those who can't control their emotions and have a possibility of being addicted, at first they are just trying to win the pot money a free prediction challenge that will allow them to win decent amount.
The next thing you will realize is that you are already playing using your own money and trying to win from the house that the site is promoting.

I have played in casinos where they have a lot of games and slots all the time, some say that if you enter the casino and play with free throws and they win they can withdraw, but the catch is that when you win, all you have to do is deposit money, this is the only gaming method that I have found where money is not included to bet, but it is a scam site, I do not recommend it, so anyone who can avoid sites that don't pay attention to them and do not play, play in recognized casinos.

After saying this, many would still fall for it as a result of their greed. When it comes to free throws, you would get them many and that is how the get scammed thinking they are wise but not knowing that they are hanging themselves as a result of their greed. With this method as you have said that is how casinos get the greedy gamblers who wants to run away with big wins gotten from free spins given to them as a result of their ongoing bonus. After allowing them to win big, upon withdrawal, they withhold their wins and ask the greedy players to make deposit before they could withdraw and then out of their greed they make deposit and the scam casino run away with their funds.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 25, 2023, 07:16:21 AM

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Quote from: Kasabus on April 25, 2023, 04:21:01 AM

~ Right. For me, this is more of a marketing strategy so that those who might predict correctly might be gambling sooner and start to wager an amount to bet. Maybe for now, what the site is offering is not gambling yet, but knowing this is a gambling site, it will eventually tempt you to bet an amount the next time you play in it as the rewards are quite impressive and promising. The end point here is to see you finally gambling in their site so they can start profiting from your funds.

I agree, the site from the OP isn't a gambling site itself, but it refers you to a real gambling site(anyone can see it after going by the link). So, I wouldn't recommend using the predictor to underage youth and to people with potential gambling problems. Other than that, if it will be referring you only to honest platforms, it looks totally fine to me.

Yeah eventually you'll going to play when you feel that you are good in predicting games, not recommendable to those who can't control their emotions and have a possibility of being addicted, at first they are just trying to win the pot money a free prediction challenge that will allow them to win decent amount.

The next thing you will realize is that you are already playing using your own money and trying to win from the house that the site is promoting.

I have played in casinos where they have a lot of games and slots all the time, some say that if you enter the casino and play with free throws and they win they can withdraw, but the catch is that when you win, all you have to do is deposit money, this is the only gaming method that I have found where money is not included to bet, but it is a scam site, I do not recommend it, so anyone who can avoid sites that don't pay attention to them and do not play, play in recognized casinos.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out.

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

It's really not gambling if no money is involved and you might as well be playing Tetris (no offense intended to any fans!). Adding in money adds a certain edge to the excitement and the opportunity to make "easy" money via betting is what draws people to it and arguably gets them addicted. There is no comparable rush when you're just playing around with some virtual figure that has no bearing on your wealth in the real world. If people manage to find an advantage in any field of gambling, for instance being able to pick out a streak of profitable bets in a consistent pattern, then they could potentially bring themselves life changing fortunes - that's never going to happen when messing around with games that have no real world upside.

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Quote from: letteredhub on April 25, 2023, 01:16:23 PM

There are kinds of gambling we play in our local settings doesn't demand the inclusion of money, it's all for the fun that comes with it and it's still regarded as gambling just same way with the superpick game. They're all gambling without or without money involved.

You are right friend, this is same thing I pointed out in my previous comment, gambling is gambling, whether money is involved or not, when money is involved, we gamble for the money, but when money is not involved, we gamble for the fun of it.

There is this card game called "whot whot" in my country, I remember way back when I used to play this game with friends, there are days where by we bet money to play it, and there are other days we just play it for fun, and in all, we still see it as gambling as long as we are competing against each other who would come out as over all winner.

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Quote from: iv4n on April 25, 2023, 01:48:59 PM

Quote from: letteredhub on April 25, 2023, 01:16:23 PM

There are kinds of gambling we play in our local settings doesn't demand the inclusion of money, it's all for the fun that comes with it and it's still regarded as gambling just same way with the superpick game. They're all gambling without or without money involved.

You didn't feel it... maybe you are too young, or older but without experience. Anyway, if you don't risk you don't gamble! And the more you risk the higher excitement can be! Some people feel it and get hooked for life.

Once again I can only point out that risking money is not the craziest gambling, in the chase of excitement people are ready to risk a lot more than "just money". That risk and excitement that comes from that can't be felt in playing "demo modes or playing some games on your console".

It's not gambling if you don't risk any money (or anything else) for a chance to get something more from that. End of story. OP should lock this thread, some comments are really ridiculous. Spend some time reading others before you post anything...

Correct! You would be able to find out the difference when it comes to emotion or simply with the thrill on the time that you do gamble out something compared to none on which you would be able to find out that there's soo much difference when it comes to this matter. Having no risking on something cant really be called gambling at all since same as you said that gambling does really involved on risking something to
get something. It wont really be giving out that kind of heart pumping situation because on the time that you've been dealing on something but knowing that you wont lose nothing then it doesnt
really give out that kind of excitement.

Quote from: Fredomago on April 25, 2023, 07:16:21 AM

Yeah eventually you'll going to play when you feel that you are good in predicting games, not recommendable to those who can't control their emotions and have a possibility of being addicted, at first they are just trying to win the pot money a free prediction challenge that will allow them to win decent amount.

The next thing you will realize is that you are already playing using your own money and trying to win from the house that the site is promoting.

If you are emotionally that impulsive then you do lose. This is really that a very common behavior on which gamblers do really have and this is why its not
really that recommendable on making yourself get attached nor get involved with gambling because this is where things becomes that much worst
specially if you cant be able to control up yourself towards gambling. If ever you do able to encounter some free bets and still able to have
chance on winning money then its a rare opportunity i should say.

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Quote from: letteredhub on April 25, 2023, 01:16:23 PM

There are kinds of gambling we play in our local settings doesn't demand the inclusion of money, it's all for the fun that comes with it and it's still regarded as gambling just same way with the superpick game. They're all gambling without or without money involved.

You didn't feel it... maybe you are too young, or older but without experience. Anyway, if you don't risk you don't gamble! And the more you risk the higher excitement can be! Some people feel it and get hooked for life.

Once again I can only point out that risking money is not the craziest gambling, in the chase of excitement people are ready to risk a lot more than "just money". That risk and excitement that comes from that can't be felt in playing "demo modes or playing some games on your console".

It's not gambling if you don't risk any money (or anything else) for a chance to get something more from that. End of story. OP should lock this thread, some comments are really ridiculous. Spend some time reading others before you post anything...

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There are kinds of gambling we play in our local settings doesn't demand the inclusion of money, it's all for the fun that comes with it and it's still regarded as gambling just same way with the superpick game. They're all gambling without or without money involved.

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 25, 2023, 05:34:59 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on April 25, 2023, 04:21:01 AM

~ Right. For me, this is more of a marketing strategy so that those who might predict correctly might be gambling sooner and start to wager an amount to bet. Maybe for now, what the site is offering is not gambling yet, but knowing this is a gambling site, it will eventually tempt you to bet an amount the next time you play in it as the rewards are quite impressive and promising. The end point here is to see you finally gambling in their site so they can start profiting from your funds.

I agree, the site from the OP isn't a gambling site itself, but it refers you to a real gambling site(anyone can see it after going by the link). So, I wouldn't recommend using the predictor to underage youth and to people with potential gambling problems. Other than that, if it will be referring you only to honest platforms, it looks totally fine to me.

Yeah eventually you'll going to play when you feel that you are good in predicting games, not recommendable to those who can't control their emotions and have a possibility of being addicted, at first they are just trying to win the pot money a free prediction challenge that will allow them to win decent amount.

The next thing you will realize is that you are already playing using your own money and trying to win from the house that the site is promoting.

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Quote from: Kasabus on April 25, 2023, 04:21:01 AM

~ Right. For me, this is more of a marketing strategy so that those who might predict correctly might be gambling sooner and start to wager an amount to bet. Maybe for now, what the site is offering is not gambling yet, but knowing this is a gambling site, it will eventually tempt you to bet an amount the next time you play in it as the rewards are quite impressive and promising. The end point here is to see you finally gambling in their site so they can start profiting from your funds.

I agree, the site from the OP isn't a gambling site itself, but it refers you to a real gambling site(anyone can see it after going by the link). So, I wouldn't recommend using the predictor to underage youth and to people with potential gambling problems. Other than that, if it will be referring you only to honest platforms, it looks totally fine to me.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I don’t see gambling if there is no money betting in the first place. Because the fact that people resort into gambling, is to make good amount of money. Others may even find it as an instant way to get rich most particularly with lottery gambling. Maybe, for some who are just playing for fun without money involved, it could be gambling for them but in the real scenario, gambling will always be associated with money and wealth.

I have the same thing in mind.

Gambling requires the risk. It isn't optional. If there's no risk, then it's not counted as gambling since you don't have anything to lose at all. Gambling games involve luck, skills, and strategies combined. If you were to play without money involved, you're merely having fun playing, but not really gambling. Gambling requires you betting and staking something valuable and important to you such as your money or assets. If you're only going to play to test the waters or to have fun, you are just practicing and seeking entertainment in the form of recreational activity.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

It is not gambling for me since you didn't risk anything valuable. You can predict for free similar to a bonus. You have nothing to lose here so it's not gambling.

But it's also not easy to win this prediction since you have to guess correctly the score of 6 soccer matches. If you're already a gambler, you might be tempted to play with real money to see your chances. I think this is just a strategy to lure the gamblers to play on the casino.

Right. For me, this is more of a marketing strategy so that those who might predict correctly might be gambling sooner and start to wager an amount to bet. Maybe for now, what the site is offering is not gambling yet, but knowing this is a gambling site, it will eventually tempt you to bet an amount the next time you play in it as the rewards are quite impressive and promising. The end point here is to see you finally gambling in their site so they can start profiting from your funds.

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Quote from: Desmong on April 24, 2023, 04:56:48 PM

Gambling is not all about putting your money in something and having fast outcome. Since there are different ways we can make bets, we are not expected to always put our money in something for us to make good profits. There are some bets where we don't need to out money, we only need to try our luck and see how far we can go.

in gambling many people propose of gambling is because of money and when they lose in gambling they get discouraged that is why sometimes it will be better for someone that you know that is into gambling the person have to take a proper time to play Did it came before betting so that it will be able to win because an average gambler is expected to win it gamble

There's difference between playing games and gambling, you can get involved in any form of gaming activities and enjoy yourself without using oney while doing this, this is for fun and leisure purpose because we are interested in sport activities on a friendly benefits with each other, but when we talks about gambling, then it has to involve the use of money, that money used in playing those games is what makes it turn gambling and the persons involved are gamblers because they bet and betting involves the use of money, you have a better chances of winning more money if your prediction is accurate while you loose your stake if you aren't accurate in gambling a particular sport.

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Quote from: mak013 on April 25, 2023, 02:03:54 AM

Yes, it is so. When you just watching some match - you don`t lose anything. You can be just become disappointed with the result. But when you can lose something - you feel much more emotions from the match/fight.
And your predictions and bets become more accurate when you feel responsibility for the result.

Disappointment is sure to get when gamblers lose some money but when gamblers bet with pleasure and responsibility they don't regret what they have lost because of betting and precisely from that loss they can learn and learn to make every prediction correctly and learn to control themselves so that they are more be responsible and can accept any risk when betting.
Emotions have made many gamblers lose things and even make it difficult to be able to make correct betting predictions.
By the way, have you ever had a number of free spins and managed to win tens of dollars but had to deposit more than what you got to make a withdrawal and when you made a deposit you had to bet but instead lost everything because of curiosity when playing using free spins you can get the win.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

If you get money it is gambling i think. Even if you don`t spend your money. But when you don`t risk your money, you feel other emotions. Without risk it is to easy to bet but the same time it is dull enough, when you lose nothing. I make sometimes such predictions for free - it really dull without risk and it doesn`t matter shall i get money for it or not.

When you get used to gambling everything is exciting when it involves to betting because you wont get challenged when there are no betting takes place. Even just watching a fight like boxing it is not that exciting like without you betting on the fighter. I think this is the reason why people got addicted to it meaning they wont enjoy a game without gambling

Yes, it is so. When you just watching some match - you don`t lose anything. You can be just become disappointed with the result. But when you can lose something - you feel much more emotions from the match/fight.
And your predictions and bets become more accurate when you feel responsibility for the result.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I don’t see gambling if there is no money betting in the first place. Because the fact that people resort into gambling, is to make good amount of money. Others may even find it as an instant way to get rich most particularly with lottery gambling. Maybe, for some who are just playing for fun without money involved, it could be gambling for them but in the real scenario, gambling will always be associated with money and wealth.

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Quote from: Desmong on April 24, 2023, 04:56:48 PM

Gambling is not all about putting your money in something and having fast outcome. Since there are different ways we can make bets, we are not expected to always put our money in something for us to make good profits. There are some bets where we don't need to out money, we only need to try our luck and see how far we can go.

in gambling many people propose of gambling is because of money and when they lose in gambling they get discouraged that is why sometimes it will be better for someone that you know that is into gambling the person have to take a proper time to play Did it came before betting so that it will be able to win because an average gambler is expected to win it gamble

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

First of all, i try to open the link you share. unfortunately, it seems that this site is only devoted to certain countries. in fact, it seems only for one country only. secondly, I've never heard of Superpicks. So, this is the first time I know that there are sites that make predictions and win money without risking anything.
well, regarding the question you asked, the answer will be very diverse and relative to each person. however, because what you're asking is related to the link you shared. To be honest, I can't answer for sure. because, I do not know, why the site does the program.

However, if I answer it from the gambling side. especially online gambling, it's not called gambling, if there's nothing at stake, especially if it doesn't involve money as a betting medium. however, from a traditional perspective, you can gamble without having to use only money as the medium. for example, if you bet with friends, friends, or other people around you. You can bet anything according to the agreement, it can be in the form of goods, property, or whatever it is, all of that fulfills the element of gambling.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

For sure it can be called gambling, since you are able to win, so all the games you watch become more emotional, that's what I'd call gambling spirit... As for not losing money in case of bet team losing, the mood anyway changes, so it can be considered "money loss" as well

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Gambling is not all about putting your money in something and having fast outcome. Since there are different ways we can make bets, we are not expected to always put our money in something for us to make good profits. There are some bets where we don't need to out money, we only need to try our luck and see how far we can go.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on April 24, 2023, 10:24:17 AM

Quote from: arwin100 on April 23, 2023, 06:58:19 PM

For sure that's gonna happen since they cannot sustain their site for having free bets option to their site users. So provably what they are doing right now is part of their marketing techniques since its easy to spread out the site if there's free money involve as pot prize. Also with those experience we encounter about those things like we need to deposit first before we can withdraw our winnings then we need to be more careful with that since we don't know yet their reputation so exert more effort to research if they are running legitimate operation before doing such actions.

Please note that any site, that ask its users to deposit any amount of money before the user can withdraw he's or her winnings, is likely a scam.

This an old strategy by scammers where they first give you a substantial amount of money for free, or for doing very simple tasks, but upon withdrawal of such money, you are asked to make a deposit first, know if that they money is not money, it's just numbers on your dashboard, it can be wiped out any second or minute, when you fall, and deposit the money requested, be rest assured your money is gone.
I have encountered several of such sites, and non of them have ever been legit.

everyone should be cautious about such bait. because that is true, a lot have been screwed by such tactic. they will let you play for free but when the withdrawal time comes, they will ask first you to deposit. so yeah, better check their withdrawal conditions first before being tempted in joining free games.
that's actually an old trick that we have seen before. so if they are still playing this kind of game up until now, it means, some naive users are still being tempted on this kind of offer.

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