Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? - page 37.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 20, 2023, 02:23:54 PM

In my opinion.

Everything you do, activity and other think on the casino are gambling. You're not gambling now, but there has some chance you are gonna to gambling soon in the future. The temptation are high, If you are stay on gambling sector.

So, I call it gambling. It's promotion, you get free money soon you're losing then are gonna triggered you to deposit.

For me, the only reason why you call it gambling is because you are gambling an amount that you may lose or win in the end. If there’s no money waiting as a reward, or any thing that has a value, I don’t think it can be considered gambling. Though we may say everything we do that is uncertain can be called gambling, but gambling in casinos is a different thing, it comes with rewards or losses in the end.

When money involved it turns to be real gambling. When we play without money, then it turns to be a game same as that we play on our smartphone. When we play with money we have different experience and when we play without money we have fun moment as our mind will be free to play as the outcome doesn't affect us in any means.

or like playing in some giveaway events here in forum? i kept seeing this at least yearly? that there are people or group of people that organized a speculative thread that will let you predict and win some money without putting a single amount.
all we need to be is at least an old account and we are free to join in certain time.
can we consider that as gambling? for me it does not sounds one.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 20, 2023, 02:23:54 PM

In my opinion.

Everything you do, activity and other think on the casino are gambling. You're not gambling now, but there has some chance you are gonna to gambling soon in the future. The temptation are high, If you are stay on gambling sector.

So, I call it gambling. It's promotion, you get free money soon you're losing then are gonna triggered you to deposit.

For me, the only reason why you call it gambling is because you are gambling an amount that you may lose or win in the end. If there’s no money waiting as a reward, or any thing that has a value, I don’t think it can be considered gambling. Though we may say everything we do that is uncertain can be called gambling, but gambling in casinos is a different thing, it comes with rewards or losses in the end.

When money involved it turns to be real gambling. When we play without money, then it turns to be a game same as that we play on our smartphone. When we play with money we have different experience and when we play without money we have fun moment as our mind will be free to play as the outcome doesn't affect us in any means.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Gamblers will not waste time on a platform that does not use real money to bet, they can use it to check their skill
this Superpicks.com purpose is to check on how good you are at predicting games in practice but for a real gambler, the satisfaction is betting real money and the excitement of knowing that there is money at stake on your bets.
There are platforms for gamers and they are not considered gambling platforms they only become gambling platforms when they accept betting with real money.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

It has directed me to betking, isn't it that bookie has some issues that has been seen in the forum?

Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Well, I think that it can still be gambling as it's still related to picking and winning. But on this case, it seem that it's more like a promo as there's no wager needed as a requirement.

Yeah, like a free lottery ticket which is still considered gambling but no money has been waged.

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Quote from: Hispo on April 21, 2023, 05:32:13 PM

So this is likely an advertisement campaign of some sort.

Yes, the thread looks like aimed to advertise the site linked by @OP with a twist of discussing whether the given example is an act of gambling or not. That is somehow a smart move because different members have different views and understandings of what is considered to be gambling which can bump the thread and get noticed by other readers.

About the thing whether the case stated by @OP is gambling or not, I would say it is not because it missing a factor to consider it gambling which is the stake. Since there is no stake or amount of money at stake, the situation can be determined only as a game of chance. And a game of chance is not necessarily gambling.

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A game of chance may be played as gambling if players wage money or anything of monetary value e.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_chance

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Quote from: uneng on April 21, 2023, 01:27:35 PM

Yes, it's gambling, without any doubts. By the definitions above, it falls under the first point: to play games of chance for money. Even when you aren't risking money (second point), you are playing a game which involves a chance of being rewarded with real money, so you are involved in a gambling activity.

You misinterpreted the definition. You missed the part where it says "for money". There should be money, or anything with real value, for it to be considered gambling. I suppose you thought "money" in that sentence refers to the reward, which is not correct.
This is a "prediction game" not gambling and here is the definition of prediction games according to Wikipedia (which states clearly it's not considered gambling:

Quote from: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prediction_game

Prediction games are a type of trivia game with a focus on the outcome of guessing future events rather than testing a player's knowledge of the past. They are not considered gambling and are not governed by gambling regulations.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 20, 2023, 02:23:54 PM

In my opinion.

Everything you do, activity and other think on the casino are gambling. You're not gambling now, but there has some chance you are gonna to gambling soon in the future. The temptation are high, If you are stay on gambling sector.

So, I call it gambling. It's promotion, you get free money soon you're losing then are gonna triggered you to deposit.

For me, the only reason why you call it gambling is because you are gambling an amount that you may lose or win in the end. If there’s no money waiting as a reward, or any thing that has a value, I don’t think it can be considered gambling. Though we may say everything we do that is uncertain can be called gambling, but gambling in casinos is a different thing, it comes with rewards or losses in the end.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

To be honest, it’s a new thing for me. Anyway, thanks for the link. But if asked if gambling really involves money, for me yes. And gambling without money is actually not gambling at all. Maybe you’re just in a game excited what’s next to happen, and there’s no gambling involved in it. Gambling only happens when you are wagering an amount of money, or any amount that you will reap as a reward when you win the game.

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Quote from: Hispo on April 21, 2023, 05:32:13 PM

I think it is still gambling, because the random chances of getting the prize or not and also, even though one is not putting any money at stake, one can feel the thrill and get used to it anyways.

It reminds me some small game houses from the town I grew up, they offered some free spins on they small slots for their costumers, so they would get hooked up to it.

So this is likely an advertisement campaign of some sort.

Not really that gambling because you arent gambling anything at all since it is really for free.On the sense that we are playing something like betting or guessing out some outcome then it would pertain
to gambling activity but in overall since you arent really risking some real money or amount then it cant be called gambling at all.

Without money it cant be called gambling because you arent risking something for you to play and win something for free.It is really that not something common on looking or seeing these kind of
stuffs on which there are things which given out some opportunity for you to win without needing money which is great to participate if you do have the chance.

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I think it is still gambling, because the random chances of getting the prize or not and also, even though one is not putting any money at stake, one can feel the thrill and get used to it anyways.

It reminds me some small game houses from the town I grew up, they offered some free spins on they small slots for their costumers, so they would get hooked up to it.

So this is likely an advertisement campaign of some sort.

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It is funny to think that most of us here had experience gambling but does not really know what gambling is. Just an easy search on the internet can tell us the difference between gambling and playing and yet many of us here can't differentiate the two. There are already many replies that tells the indicators whether a situation is gambling or not and yet many still stand on their belief and think that is gambling is all about predictions and reward. Please take note, without any stake, an action cannot be considered a gambling.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Yes, it's gambling, without any doubts. By the definitions above, it falls under the first point: to play games of chance for money. Even when you aren't risking money (second point), you are playing a game which involves a chance of being rewarded with real money, so you are involved in a gambling activity.

Please take notice of the word "bet" on your screenshot.

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Quote from: coinerer on April 21, 2023, 07:59:49 AM

Prediction is one of the main tools of gambling. and many sites have prediction quiz on their site where you can win some money by making correct prediction without betting any amount. It can also be called a part of gambling. but since there is no possibility of financial loss and no huge amount of income can be earned from here and there is no risk, it does not fulfill gambling requirement on the other hand. therefore, earning money from any place without stake money cannot be termed as complete gambling

If a person qualifies to have to play a game or a bet in a game of chance is the responsibility of that person,the prediction is something that we do not know Exactly because it depends on many factors, and one of these factors is Rarely located by people who by their luck and by their intuition can get wins , but there is no way to be able to do it Successfully but to try, play and play to see if by pure probability of trying so much one of these Bursts,it is the possibility that I see, but if there is no money and you Continue to place bets, you can, but it is not correct.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Yes, it's gambling, without any doubts. By the definitions above, it falls under the first point: to play games of chance for money. Even when you aren't risking money (second point), you are playing a game which involves a chance of being rewarded with real money, so you are involved in a gambling activity.

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I can't able to access the site as some others mentioned so I have no idea about this particular site.

However about the context of the title if you're not betting your money it's not really a gambling but sometimes it depends because we may took a life decision which can turn in one or other which is a gamble so it depends on what we are talking.

About this site, if they are giving away rewards for wagering no money still its a gambling.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I haven't heard that website before but I think betting without any money involved is not considered gambling. Gambling means to play a game with stakes involved and if there is not money or anything that has a value involved, I don't think it can be called a gambling. But there's a case that we have a bonus called free bet which you can bet without a stake and can won a specific amount, These are sometimes comes from deposit bonuses, welcome promotions or gift from the casino but It is certainly a limited bet. I guess the stake on that free bet is the number of times you can use it and the limitation it has.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on April 20, 2023, 02:39:33 PM

If you are not wagering any money or reputation, then you are not gambling IMO. There has to be something on the line. What you are trying to send players to is a prediction game. They might be fun to participate in but should not be considered "gambling".

True. It won’t be considered gambling just by predicting the future’s uncertainty. There should be something at stake that you will get as a reward or something that you will lose if you fail. If you are just simply predicting without money or any something of value involved, that won’t fall on gambling category. IMHO, gambling cannot occur without the presence of money.

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All things related to a bet still consider gambling in this part you are taking a risk to.play gambling wether it's a free bet or not it's just saying that you are willing to take a particular thing just to win the game. Even though it's a free bet game you still considering a bet to win the game.But still ideal to have a bet of real.money gambling is nothing if there's no money involved for entertainment and satisfaction.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

For me I have a doubt how it can be work because asll I know is that money and gambler are siblings in gambling.
We all know that in The word ( Gambling) it means money is involve and we can not call gambling if the organization didn't allow users or players pit their bet do that they can win. Because Gambling is based on money not anything.
And also if theres person whant to give you an amount because you are winning for your prediction and you didn't give your money as a bet then all I can say is that is not a gambling it's prediction with fun.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on April 20, 2023, 02:17:02 PM

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Yes and no.
It should still be called as one since you are gambling the free funds/bet that is given to your account. On the other hand, it should not be, as in particular, you haven't used your own pocket to gamble. What I'm trying to say is that it depends to particularity if it should be considered as gambling or not.

Is this thread a kind of advertisement? Do you have any connection with the website?

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Gambling is when you're losing and winning money, you cannot consider a platform a gambling platform without these two elements, but it's a good site to check how good you are in predicting the games on that platform, if you're a newbie you can start on this site to prepare yourself in predicting the outcomes of the game.
Casinos have this in the form of free spins, and before you can bet it's better to try it on something where you can feel how the game is being played and how can you time your betting or employ a method that you learned or developed.

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