Topic: workers are slaves and salary is just a bond tied to worker to keep them working - page 2. (Read 1564 times)

In some way those words might be true, since there are so many workers who doesn't have plans or just contented with their job salary as long as they could afford what they want.
Those who couldn't quit because of the bills and necessary things that they need in order to survive.
And not everyone is fitted to be a business owner, not everyone could be successful so some might choice to work rather than start a small business.

A man once said that the system of the world is designed like a prison, you have to go to school for a certain amount of years, graduate and also work for the government. You can be doing these jobs diligently for years and still won't become rich, workers are underpaid and those that they are working for keep getting richer every day. This is why a lot of people are now taking advantage of the financial market, this doesn't mean you should quit your job, take your time to learn crypto or forex, start small investments and when you are confident of your skill sets you can invest bigger amounts. in order to get rich you can't keep working for people.

When someone has no other choice that they can do of course they have to keep doing the job they have even though the income they get is not enough to meet the current standard of living, because if they do not do the job then they do not have an income that can meet their basic needs. If indeed as a private company you mean not giving their workers inappropriate salaries of course the company is still on a small scale and I think the company will replace the workers it has more often because very few people will survive with inappropriate salaries.

Thats how life cycle works on which it is really that something that you would really be needing up because on the moment or time that you would really be able to graduate on college, then the primary thing that comes up into your mind is on how to secure a job directly on which we know that there's no other way that you could really be having that startup or headstart on building up your life specially if you do have those kind of targets or hopes on making your own house or would be saving up for your marriage life or whatever the things that you do have in mind. We cant just that able to ignore it out those kind of things and thats why despite on having those kind of bad impressions towards work or simply with that 8-5 job cycle then its something that you wont really be caring that much specially on the moment that you do need up money.

The main thing that comes up into your mind is to have job because surviving on this shit economic status or condition is something that will really be your main priority. Doesnt matter if it would be taking
up all of your time or simply your independence because survival on day to day basis will matter the most. There would really be just that those individuals who would thinking out of the box and this is why they would really be coming up with this kind of extra steps on achieving something that others dont mind of.

I agree with OP to a greater extent that salaries are meant to be baits to keep workers working till the end of the month then another one is being paid. When I compared the Standard of living today which has skyrocketed. You can't fathom the fact that people are really under a kind of slavery or neocolonialism working for some sort of capitalists out there.

This matter of discussion is mostly related to those working in private companies. In most countries around the world, it hasn't paid them right but plenty of these private company workers do not seem to have any choice of the situation rather than manage what comes to their table.

I both disagree and agree with this paradigm because its not exactly true but also its commonly felt in the population as a reflection of inflation over decades now.

Its empirically true that many 'common' workers are less well paid now then mid 20th century workers but at the same time alot of products are cheaper, we benefit massively from technology and also international trade has made many in the West at least better off.  If you are poorly paid think of the mass production you benefit from via an imported cheap labor bonus for yourself.

As a population we are complicit, both victims but also beneficiaries of someone elses cheap labor via all the cheaper products we use.   Typically in the west we suffer most from large cost items like a house, thats a cost thats hard to reduce.  There are attempts to commoditize the building of houses into sections or 'pre-fab' but its not often true right now.

Things have changed over the years, it is no longer a simple capitalistic outlook. Companies help employees and employees work for the company.
 
If there any alternative? I dont think so. If someone argues that one should try to become their own boss, the simple counterargument is that if everyone was starting their own business who will work under them? No company can run as one man army, it is always a team job and immediately the need for workers come in.

To be honest, this system is like that and its beyond change, we just have to accept it, or else get born in a rich family.

The statement that workers are slaves and salary is just a bond tied to workers to keep them working is a reflection of a particular viewpoint on modern work dynamics. While this might resonate with some perspectives on capitalism and labor relations, it’s important to unpack the ideas behind it and consider various angles.
While the metaphor of workers as "slaves" tied by their salaries captures a certain critique of capitalist labor systems, it overlooks the complexity of modern employment and the potential for reform. Workers do have agency, though the balance of power between employer and employee can vary greatly depending on the system and context. Addressing issues like exploitation, inequality, and lack of freedom is key to creating a fairer and more fulfilling work environment

That is very true, the working class will always be necessary for any company, if it is a fundamental pillar, but I think that wealth and payments on a global level are very undervalued, people who are always employees are not and will not be rich, then the mentality of a person who works for another in a company may have benefits, but they cannot be millionaires, but the owners of the companies are, but why? because simply the owners Appropriated their working capital to form a company where their wealth will be the work of others, where less than the minimum profits are shared with the workers and that is something that is fulfilled at a global level, so we must change that mentality , doing our own business.

We know that job matters because their are jobs that are paying very well so I won't say that having a job is bad but we still need to get such jobs so that we don't complain, but if you look at their jobs that will drain you and they won't even pay you well, so before you get a job I feel like you have to make enquiry about those jobs before you accept them, so that we don't have to stress each other out. No matter what you are earning is going to be very hard to save because the economy is not even helping issues now so we don't have a choice than just for us to invest what ever you are earning.

Their are a lot of engineering jobs and professional jobs that can even give you more money than you actually expect, you need to spend on your self and also invest it because, bills and the sectors to matter a lot because it is  not all sector pays well so you have to be luck or with your connection so we don't have a choice than to do what will best for every individual.

When people speak in such manner about white collar jobs I literally feel they’re not paid proper IMO. When dealing with private sector we all know there’s no much benefit except they offer huge amount after retirement or else it’s so difficult for anyone to benefit meanwhile government sector is more better due to the high paying rate and retirement benefit. The statement above is wrong because not all workers serve as slave it’s a misconception people try to generalize, if a friend said that there’s no point arguing honestly because the person in  question speaks from experience and currently in a bad economy makes things difficult for low salary earners.

Workers are not slaves, it entirely depends on where you work and if the welfare of the staffs are prioritized by the company. Furthermore, there are white collar jobs workers with good pay and not all jobs requires you to go to the office everyday. I've had a job as the ICT manager of a company and I'm only required to be at the office twice weekly(Mondays and any other day I'm needed).

When you can call white collar jobs slavery is when the remissions is not comparable with to the job requirements and staffs are undervalued, ill treated or their salaries delayed consistently.

It all depends on the settings and the can of job we are doing. There are some jobs that will take the strength out of you without living you with something to save for the future. These kind of jobs can be very tasking and does not give us time to relax and think.abiut ourselves. Professional jobs are different because they are flexible and with lots of time to spend on vacation with allowance to take care of some bills. This also depends on country and the sector of the job. In advanced countries, professional jobs are the best and can take care of some needs having something to save for the future.

Having this type of feeling means that you really hate your job and you are only doing it for money and have absolutely no other reason. I hate that type of feeling, and that is why I quit my last job, and even quit all the jobs before except one where I got fired, which they had right to because I applied for a job that I wasn't qualified for and for some weird reason they still hired me, no idea why they did, but I ended up getting fired after just two weeks when they realized I am way underqualified for the position, but all other jobs I quit because I didn't like the job.

I know you feel like there isn't a job out there for you, and I know not everyone is as luck as me that they have to live on poverty wages until they find something they like, but I did it and now I am working on the greatest job in the world for me, my job is so fun that I would actually do this for free probably, but I would need a job in that case of course.

So always find something you personally love, and you will do fine. I think it will be something that will take a while for you to get better at, and it will be months or years before you get make a good salary from it, but work on it and find the job you love.

No body is me mocking employees and as a matter of fact, some person have been employees for a life time and have used their salary to establish themselves and became boss of their own after retiring or completing their years of service at the work place. I am an employee to a bank and I also have my business that am running, lately I just rejected an offer for a part time job in a medical lab because the pay was small, if I had accepted the job offer, that mean I would have been an employee in two companies, if really I am against getting a job and being an employee, I wouldn't want to work for anyone but I am.

Although those words are not quite right, if we examine further, there is nothing wrong with what the OP said that in certain companies many employees are treated like slaves without any progress in their lives to be able to advance further.

It is true as you said that employees are the main pillars for the progress of a company, but we must also realize that most employees do not have career development even though they have dedicated many contributions to a company.

Yes, this is a reality of life that cannot be separated from the finances we experience in this world or in any country. In cases like this we can also see that job choices are often influenced by several factors, including the economy in their lives and the large number of competing job applicants and few opportunities for work. Yes, we inevitably accept these jobs where workers have no other choice but to accept jobs they don't like to support their family's needs, I don't agree with this regarding office workers being slaves.

Yes, it depends on the person whether to take this golden opportunity or not, of course with every big salary there is a target that must be achieved. Not everyone can accept the challenge of a company.

Yes, that's right. It seems inappropriate to say that workers are slaves. Because slaves with work are also very different in meaning if our slaves are forced to work even without being paid. If the mindset is like that, I'm afraid all employees will feel like slaves to the company.

Even though we all know that without employees, all companies cannot run. Without civil servants, all governments cannot run, so it is not appropriate to say that work is a slave. Because basically the financial system and media including social media ultimately direct today's humans to have to live like that and they are consciously willing to compete until humans run out of time, they are also fully aware. But I think that's normal because everything still has its benefits, and that's how the world works.

If everyone is a boss, who is the boss? because people who say that "everyone can be a boss" are people who are fooled by motivational speakers or they are already rich, so they don't need to be employees anymore. Because realistically, not everyone has the destiny to be a boss, because being a boss is not only about hard work, being smart, or other things, but it is about one's fortune and luck. And there is nothing wrong with someone being an employee, is there anything wrong with someone who tries to fulfill their responsibilities? and they are not slaves, they are fighters who are building their lives to be better, so never mock these employees by calling them slaves because they need money and they are much better than people who only mock them slaves but do nothing.

Nowadays, the status of a worker is not only determined by the type of job or salary he receives, but the development of the global economy has changed the needs of the worker in a way that may or may not be consistent with his income. In the past, the needs of the worker were simple and did not exceed the basics of living, such as food, housing, clothing and transportation, which allowed him to control his finances to cover all his needs. While today these needs have developed to include luxuries that can all be classified as recreational needs, such as allocating a budget to save for traveling on vacation, changing his car, or aspiring to buy a second home and a second car. This has prompted many to change their jobs to suit these needs or move to launch their own businesses. It can be said that there is a general disproportion between expenses and income for the majority of workers around the world.