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I totally agree with the opinion as been put forward by the writer of this article that workers are slaves and that salary is just a rope that has been used to chain them up so they can't loose free from the chains of working for for themselves
Infact if you look at it critically just imagine you working in an organization like a bank where you see billions everyday in your work and at the end of the month you are been paid in thousands and it's your efforts that has made sure that those billions come to the bank
It's better you start your own small business or company and you develop and grow it rather than working for a salary that is not even enough for you to solve all your needs in a month
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I understand exactly what you are talking about.
But think of a circle and you need people to fill every part of that circle.
Some should be employees and salaried, some should be entrepreneurs, each person has their own unique talent.
A person who works in an office for years may be happy, what matters is how happy the person is. If everyone was a CEO, then who would do the other jobs.

That's right, bro, I agree with you, our fortunes are all different, there are those who become rich in their work, there are also those who are mediocre in their work, our fortune is already regulated by us, it's up to us to live it, it's impossible for everyone to do it. to be very rich, there must be rich and there are also poor, the poor need the rich and the rich need the poor, we all need each other, respect each person's work because we need the help of other people to live, we can't do all the work ourselves, sometimes we need the energy and thoughts of other people to run our lives.
Life could never be a balanced thing on which there would really be those people who are really that rich and there are people who are poor. If all people are rich then whose the one would really be working?
This is why if you do find yourself into that average or poor state when it comes to financial status then you should really be thinking off on how to free  yourself with that 8-5 dayjob.
Can't be able to deny that majority of people or workers are really that working to pay off their debts plus having that bad economic conditions on which it do really make things even more harder to survive on day to day living. This is where people would be dealing up with things since they dont have any choice and this is something that reality that we are really that facing on. There are really just those individuals
who do really trying out to make themselves to add more work and wise decisions and this is why they do came up with those careers on which we know that this could potentially free themselves
on having such state or condition. We are all that bound to work because if we wont work then we wont really be having the money on buying our needs and this is indeed a normal cycle of life.  Smiley
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I understand what OP means, for this issue: considering the example above of your story, that worker can accept for the sake of food and clothing or for the sake of family life or children that he chooses a job to earn money that he does not like or does not have the time and necessary conditions. Even in my country, university graduates cannot find a job in their major, and life forces them to choose another profession to earn a living. That is a forced choice. On the contrary, if that worker chooses a job that is not interesting but has a better salary than their favorite job, it means that the worker chooses and accepts their opportunity to earn money, basically going to work to earn money.
No matter we are doing what kind of work . The matters , how much we earn from our job or business. Government jobs are good and we enjoy on government job and of someone is doing work under an uneducated person and he is facing difficulties on job . He is on wrong route and he has to change his mindset if he wants freedom in life. OP is right because job is like a slavery and business owner treat us as he bought us for 8 hours. Of someone is doing business, he is on best route and he will be successful one day . You have to do the things what you don't want to do and you can't enjoy life with your life freely because owner disturb us when we are close to his business.
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In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts.
He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.
This is ideal life situation but where everyone is aiming to become their own boss but it isn't realistic, if everyone becomes their own boss who will work for each other?


Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?
Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss.
Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.

Yes the system has been programmed this way but some people has equally survived from the system and become their own boss ,when you get employed it doesn't mean that you will work their until the rest of your life but should act/be an elevating ground to try to save money to start up your own business, the problem is that when people got employed, Majority usually see that place as where they will work until they retire, which is not supposed to be so.
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I understand exactly what you are talking about.
But think of a circle and you need people to fill every part of that circle.
Some should be employees and salaried, some should be entrepreneurs, each person has their own unique talent.
A person who works in an office for years may be happy, what matters is how happy the person is. If everyone was a CEO, then who would do the other jobs.

That's right, bro, I agree with you, our fortunes are all different, there are those who become rich in their work, there are also those who are mediocre in their work, our fortune is already regulated by us, it's up to us to live it, it's impossible for everyone to do it. to be very rich, there must be rich and there are also poor, the poor need the rich and the rich need the poor, we all need each other, respect each person's work because we need the help of other people to live, we can't do all the work ourselves, sometimes we need the energy and thoughts of other people to run our lives.
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If people are told this kind of stuff, I think most economies will crash down!!

A salary should be seen as a reward for the work put in, the expertise rendered to the job, a motivational reward and not in the lines of being a slave!!

This pretty much says everyone that does a 9-5 or 8-5 is a slave and it just sounds wrong! What of company owners that operate in these lines do they also qualify to be called slaves ?? I don't think so.

Lets just work hard and not shy away from 9-5 jobs.
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I understand exactly what you are talking about.
But think of a circle and you need people to fill every part of that circle.
Some should be employees and salaried, some should be entrepreneurs, each person has their own unique talent.
A person who works in an office for years may be happy, what matters is how happy the person is. If everyone was a CEO, then who would do the other jobs.
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In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.

I want you to know that majority of the workers or should I say labour workers know about this but you see what you just explain, it has something to do with connection and networking. You can't leave your previous job when you are not assured of the next thing about life. In the western countries where yiu hear a drop is running a multi billion dollars worth company but that's can't work in your place because the system there work better but ours doesn't work like their own due to government negligence and I don't care altitude.

Everyone you see working in a particular place has a dream to further but they don't have the right connection and ways to execute it. That guy you see with the idea of of mobile money has people that support his idea. We have thousands of other people like him that want to do the same but don't have the same opportunity. Just imagine working in a central bank of a country, he would have met alot of people with money and have his connection, not everyone has such opportunities to execute their dreams, so they have to stick to what they have for that time.
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Who are slaves?

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a person who is forced to work for and obey another and is considered to be their property; an enslaved person.

Anyone that is not forced to work is not a slave even if the person is not paid. People are motivated by the money that is paid them and that is not slavery.

Also slaves are property of their master/owner. A boss of a company is nobody's owner.
Spot on! As long as you are not being forced to work and you are not being ripped off of your pay, you are not a slave. Some people work because they like it, and they even stay in good jobs, paid or unpaid, and they gain experience. It's their choice. Before you call a corporate worker a slave, that means the person was forced to work and even when the person demanded pay, he or she was not paid against his will.

Someone can become a corporate slave when he is owned by a company or boss but like you said, the boss of the company is nobody's owner. If you are owned by a person, then you need freedom. But if the choice to work was the person's choice and you agreed on a pay and you are being paid and you don't do tasks outside of your job requirement, then you are not a slave.

If someone stays in a company for ten years, it's only wise to ask them what experience is keeping them back in the company. Some people might have a long-term goal or work for ten years and retire. While they are working for that ten years, they are establishing something by the side, and when they retire, they just go full-time into their own business.

Because you don't like white-collar jobs doesn't mean somebody else doesn't like it. Some people enjoy the meetings, getting up on Monday morning, dressing officially, and going to offices. Some people enjoy that. If you don't, it's okay, but it's not appropriate to think people of as slaves because they like white-collar jobs.
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If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.). 

In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss. 

Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement? 

Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss. 

Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.

In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.

You’ve made some excellent points here! 😊 The idea that "workers are slaves" is a bit extreme and doesn’t capture the bigger picture. Working for someone else can be a stepping stone that offers valuable experiences, skill-building, and networking opportunities that are essential for long-term success.

Not everyone starts out with the resources, experience, or knowledge to be their own boss right away. Many successful entrepreneurs have taken the route of being an employee first, learning the ropes, understanding the industry, and even saving up before venturing out on their own.

At the end of the day, it’s all about personal growth, goals, and what you make of your journey. Whether you’re working for someone else or running your own business, the key is to keep learning and growing!
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I understand what OP means, for this issue: considering the example above of your story, that worker can accept for the sake of food and clothing or for the sake of family life or children that he chooses a job to earn money that he does not like or does not have the time and necessary conditions. Even in my country, university graduates cannot find a job in their major, and life forces them to choose another profession to earn a living. That is a forced choice. On the contrary, if that worker chooses a job that is not interesting but has a better salary than their favorite job, it means that the worker chooses and accepts their opportunity to earn money, basically going to work to earn money.
In ancient times, the term "worker" didn’t even exist; there were only slaves. But these days, slaves is not the right term for workers. Maybe some people consider themselves slaves who grind away at jobs they don’t love simply because they have no other options, all in the name of putting food on the table for their families.

But in today’s world, it's different. Most people have access to education and knowledge, and there are laws in place to protect workers’ rights. This is the reason why we strive to study hard in order to get good jobs and make some money because we don't want to work just to survive for the rest of our lives!
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I understand what OP means, for this issue: considering the example above of your story, that worker can accept for the sake of food and clothing or for the sake of family life or children that he chooses a job to earn money that he does not like or does not have the time and necessary conditions. Even in my country, university graduates cannot find a job in their major, and life forces them to choose another profession to earn a living. That is a forced choice. On the contrary, if that worker chooses a job that is not interesting but has a better salary than their favorite job, it means that the worker chooses and accepts their opportunity to earn money, basically going to work to earn money.
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Workers are not slaves but I think I understand what this person is trying to say. I think he’s referring to people who gave up on their dreams and ambitions working at a job they do not like just to earn a living. You can tell those kind of people from others when you walk into an office. They are usually demotivated and their performance is always low. Not everyone is cut out for the 9-5 life and not everyone can run a business or be self employed.


in work faced with the desire or compulsion to live it like a necessity, which of course is very necessary, it is a choice that must be lived, by seeing them work every day, it is not a slave worker working tirelessly but that is life that is lived.
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Workers are not slaves but I think I understand what this person is trying to say. I think he’s referring to people who gave up on their dreams and ambitions working at a job they do not like just to earn a living. You can tell those kind of people from others when you walk into an office. They are usually demotivated and their performance is always low. Not everyone is cut out for the 9-5 life and not everyone can run a business or be self employed.
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In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.
In my opinion, your understanding is that you have the wrong way of thinking, if everyone in this world is a boss, then whoever works, everyone is a boss, that is a wrong opinion, life is arranged in such a way, both regarding the economy, mate, work and so on.

It's indeed a wrong opinion but hope you are aware that this is not my idea? Because if you read down, you will see my opinion too towards the issue. I don't agree that people should not work and perhaps it's not the dream of every individual to even become boss. While I was in college, I had a discussion with some friends regarding what they will be doing after concluding the degree program and some said they pray to get a government job so that they can retire at age 60 or after 35 years of working for the government and then start to receive pension. That's to say that so many people doesn't have the dreams to become boss of their own and it's never possible for everyone to be boss because we all doesn't have same mentality and the same ability to keep pushing for a better future.
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No one forces one to work except one's own circumstances, if you don't want to work, improve your circumstances. Companies, job you do — are least to be blamed.

I know people who are having jobs — they are well paid, are given various benefits aside from salary, and work is not demanding either.

Also, 'Be your own boss' has been shoved down a lot lately on social media and I find it cringe.
Even if we want to be free financially and we don't have the capital to start something or take a loan. We have no choice but to work for someone or an organization so that we can realize the amount we need to start something on our own. There is no two ways about it and in that case, it is not something that we are forced to do it comes willingly even if we are not happy about it. Life events, circumstances, debt, and responsibilities push one to take multiple jobs and businesses just to survive them.

To the employer, the employee is seen as a worker and not a slave since they can decide when they want to quit the job unless there is an agreement of work period. Without that, they can stop the job at any point in time. Within few days the slot opening will be filled by someone else.
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If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.). 

In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss. 

Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement? 

Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss. 

Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.

In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.
workers are not slaves, the terms slave is different from the terms worker, terms slave is worst you need to do everything for your boss because you are only slave, while in workers there's is a policy thay build by company that need to be implemented to have a peaceful work placed and if you don't like there policy you can quit anytime you are more free. I believe there is a big difference on the slave and workers because i already experience working on company and i don't feel like we are treated as slave there we are just like one family.
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If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.). 

In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss. 

Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement? 

Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss. 

Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.

In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.

Imagine working an 8 to 5 job and still end up getting peanuts at the end of the month. I used to work as a teacher in a school where I was paid 40 thousand naira a month but I felt like a slave because I was doing more than what I was getting paid for. I had a lot to do, I was even uploading results of students online and I wasn't getting any extra pay for that, I had to quite because I felt used, this is actually a relatable topic if you Ve never experienced this you won't understand
If you are someone who do have a degree and having that kind of sense on whats happening around then you would really be having those kind of realizations that the pay that you are getting isnt really that enough or would really be able to justify into the work that you've done or simply on the job that you are really that having, but since due to lack of opportunities or having that a tough competition in getting a job if we do speak about local jobs then you would definitely be making yourself that accept on the current condition that you are in, despite of being that a very hard situation for you but still it do leaves you no choice.
On the moment that you've seen some opportunity that you could really be able to jump into some better opportunity then you would definitely do it.

We are the ones who do make out such future that we do really have. If you wont be acting or doing something then you would really be just that sticking into the current condition that you are in then there would really be no changes but we know that not all would really be having that kind of mentality on which theer would really be those individuals who would be still keep on searching on something more better.
If you dont really like on having a boss then you would really be going into other path on which you will really be trying out to make some investment or business on which this could possibly be able to make someone
to be successful on which on the moment that it do hits then financial freedom could be obtained and this is something that what everyone wants.
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workers are not slaves in my opinion if it is in accordance with what is produced, if the income does not match what we do and are not even paid, then that is what is called a slave.
Actually, it is a risk if you work with people to have to follow the rules, even though we have a company that also has rules even though we make them
When they get their rights in full, it cannot be categorized as slavery, because before they work, they certainly understand what obligations they must do and it is an agreement that they should be aware of. This is a risk for workers who work in other people's companies. Unless they do not get their rights according to the provisions while they are continuously demanded to carry out their obligations, it may be categorized as slavery, although not completely. However, the problem is whether as workers they have done all their obligations, that is the question. Sometimes they only demand rights, but they forget their obligations. We cannot see this from one side only in my opinion, but we must see it from all points of view.
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Let's accept the fact that the reason why we seek for a job is the salary and experience now if you are just new to the industry of corporate all you need is to have at least a job with just low salary it's okay because you need to have an experience now if you have atleast a minimal of it you can now seek a higher opportunity with higher salary that you learned from your previous employment now you have a higher salary and higher position but it doesn't remove that you came from the bottom so you must need to respect others because they are starting too instead of have a discrimination why not help them.
Personally I always seek a job with a work-life balance so I make my self more comfy and energetic in work to prevent burn out and exhaustion of workloads.
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