Topic: workers are slaves and salary is just a bond tied to worker to keep them working - page 4. (Read 1564 times)

It is true that running a business that we have mastered will give more money compared to working as an employee because as employees the income they get has been determined according to the agreement when they enter work and with the business, of course this will depend a lot on those who run the business and if they can run it well then it is likely to have a big profit as well.
If someone is not ready to start a business, of course they will be more comfortable working for others as employees because in running a business, of course, there will be many things that they must think about so that their business can run well and make profits, and as employees, of course, they only need to think about their responsibilities and do not need to think about many things.
As young people, of course, it will be very good if they think about a business, but if they do not have enough funds to run a business, then they can work first, save and prepare themselves to be able to run a business when they have enough capital.

workers are not slaves in my opinion if it is in accordance with what is produced, if the income does not match what we do and are not even paid, then that is what is called a slave.
Actually, it is a risk if you work with people to have to follow the rules, even though we have a company that also has rules even though we make them

What you must know is that not everyone is designed to own a company, just as people usually say that not everyone is designed to be rich while others are meant to be poor. The thing is that, at first before becoming a company owner or whatever you must first worked yourself to be in that position before wanting to be in the place you want.

Let me bring it down to our understanding; those who are saying that it's better to work for ourselves than working for people are those who had already gain experience while working people before, so it is that easy for them to become their own boss with the experience they had gain throughout their years of working that is why you see many company saying that before you would be employed they needs about 4-10 years working experience to make sure such person can be able to handle that position they are fixing in that person.

How would someone just rise and become CEO without either working, learning or acquiring the skills to become the CEO they desired. Today many people go to tertiary institution and they some skills after which they may decides to create employment opportunity with their knowledge and skills, while some goes for skill learning such as hand work; this includes hair dressing, tailoring, catering, automobile, mobile, welding and fabrication and so many more. When they finishes these people can set up their business and becomes boss and CEO of their own. 

If one wants to be successful in life and earn more money then this is the way for him to follow what you are telling.  Because the business brings more money and those who do the job are well paid and have to do all the work in it.  And for that there must be estimation and hard work. If these things are not there, then nothing will count in business.  This is the main reason why many people are afraid of doing business and try to get rid of it and their dream is to make money and they don't even follow it.  If you have a job, use it, but think about it and do business later.  But today's youth do not understand this and are going after a job.They should take their interest in business and spend their time on it and become something for their family.

It is not right to say that working is called slavery. Because as far as I know, working and getting paid is not slavery, in living this life we ​​do have to be like that, some are bosses and some are employees.
If that's the case, even though we already have our own business, we are also called slaves because we have to be responsible for our own business. What you have to understand is that slaves are those who are not paid and cannot submit a letter of resignation from work, in other words they work under duress and sometimes get bad treatment, can even be beaten and can also be sold.

If working is called slavery based on what you said in this thread. In my opinion, we are all also slaves to the Government if that's the case, because if the Government asks you to do something, you have to do it or there will be very severe consequences, usually in the form of a fine or even worse. If the Government forces someone to do something, you can just say no, but it will harm you.

Imagine working an 8 to 5 job and still end up getting peanuts at the end of the month. I used to work as a teacher in a school where I was paid 40 thousand naira a month but I felt like a slave because I was doing more than what I was getting paid for. I had a lot to do, I was even uploading results of students online and I wasn't getting any extra pay for that, I had to quite because I felt used, this is actually a relatable topic if you Ve never experienced this you won't understand

Starting your own business is capital intensive, in order to start your own business you need to have capital and you get that capital from working, except if you have inherited funds. There is nothing wrong in working and climbing up the social ladder, you basically have to learn how to raise capital in every job you are doing and in turn use that capital to grow your own wealth, you do not have to do your current job forever, just have a plan on how long you intend to do it and work towards achieving your desires, but you must be very disciplined.

Indeed, literally what exists in this world has been destined and their respective duties with various human conditions that cannot be determined from the moment they come out of a mother's stomach, just as the universe rotates according to its axis, so too humans can be described through views like this, it is not wrong because some people also believe it.

Slave orientation here may be how slaves of the past who continue to be tortured and employed without being given the right to a decent life like now and if you look at the concept of thinking like that then there is no slave sentence that is appropriate for today's company workers, the sentence is too sadistic for now with such views on workers.

There are really just those people who are really just that too wanting to deal up with things as if this isnt really that part of a life cycle of a certain human being or person. Of course we would really be needing up to work for us to survive because if you dont work then you wont really be having a salary for you to sustain your living and its something a normal action or approach to have. It is really just that there are people who wants to get out with this kind of cycle or condition on which this is the moment that they will really be doing things on which is more than into those people who had been working so hard for the rest of their lives.
Somehow taking up another step will really be that not simple because it will really be that involving out that risks taking on which we know that this isnt something simple.

If you do really want yourself to be not included into those labors or manpower or being simply an employee then it would really be that needed up for you to work more or dealing up with something
that you could put up yourself to have such chance to make your life more better. As for the talks about if all people would be big BOSS then who are the ones who would really be working into their company?
This is how this life works and its up to you on how you would gonna handle it out and making up decisions according into your preference and liking.

That's the real fact, if everyone becomes a boss I don't think their will be people out their to work because everyone has because a boss. The truth is that it is not everybody that have the ability to start up something that can generate money, some people are meant to work somewhere,  to assist an organisation, companies to grow. Their is no arm working under someone , as far as it is ones decision and one is happy as an employee.

So many people try to go into things that can generate money for them but it is something very difficult for some people which they never succeeded but run into lose of money. The best thing is that people should make decisions on what they feel they are capable of doing than to make mistakes that can cause pain at the end.

A white collar job does not refer to working for someone else, it means an office or managerial type job, as opposed to a blue collar job which is when someone is involved with manual labor. The reality is for most people they often get stuck or at least stay happily content with the first half decent career opportunities that pop up and you can't blame them, as most people are looking for a bit of stability. However that does not preclude them from eventually becoming "free" of the cycle, which is more about controlling incoming and outgoings as much as possible. If you are able to bring in much more income than is going out, then invest it wisely, you have a chance to break away from the mainstream.

In my opinion, your understanding is that you have the wrong way of thinking, if everyone in this world is a boss, then whoever works, everyone is a boss, that is a wrong opinion, life is arranged in such a way, both regarding the economy, mate, work and so on.

A worker doesn't mean a slave, you work for a salary but you are still free to do anything elsewhere and you can still travel anywhere, for me that is not a slave, You work and get paid and get a good economic life in your family. That's life, a sadistic slave, you can't be free like people in general work and get paid.

That's what life, work, salary, boss, rich, poor and so on, the goal is only one to complete, not as a slave, for example: rich people need poor people and poor people need rich people, complementing each other is the purpose of life, if everyone is poor nothing works andIf everyone was rich, of course no one would work and be paid.

This is a pretty radical opinion and not everyone will understand it. Before, when I didn't have a family and worked alone, I had a lot of money. It was strange to me that someone says that a permanent job is slavery. But for a family, one such salary is not enough, it is not enough. And then I saw from the prices that I spent all the money on an apartment, food and a wife. And that's it! And then I realized that I was not saving anything at all, and then it felt like real slavery, where I work for food, but I don't know how to save money for a car, travel and to free myself from this!
How good it is that we all have a cryptocurrency world that destroys all these stupid shackles and rules.

No one forces one to work except one's own circumstances, if you don't want to work, improve your circumstances. Companies, job you do — are least to be blamed.

I know people who are having jobs — they are well paid, are given various benefits aside from salary, and work is not demanding either.

Also, 'Be your own boss' has been shoved down a lot lately on social media and I find it cringe.

I agree with that, besides getting rewards, we can also get experience and even lessons from things that we have never gotten in school before. In addition, when we want to work based on our own will, we can also try to see how far our abilities are, this is what I did to myself by daring to run away from home and work in someone else's city and that trained my own mentality to be better and stronger in facing life.
In my opinion, a boss who gives a salary is not just a bond for them as workers, but we should be able to appreciate the hard work of others. I myself have never thought negatively like I am a slave when working, because we both need it so this is a normal thing.

People have completely lost their bearings. )) You have to think of something like this. No one wants to work anymore and just comes up with pearls of wisdom.
Indeed, let every businessman pay wages at least several times a year without any work done, products, etc. It would be a very funny story. I read all this and I can’t help but feel like I’ve ended up in a parallel universe.

I get what your saying and no one should ever think that he/she are slaves to any employer of labour, I know alot of people see this from this perspective that working for  people and they paying you peanuts is a waste of time and they take it like they are being used in respect to enriching those persons.

One thing about working for someone aside being paid is that, you gain experience and learn alot of tactics to carry on your own business or company. It's an avenue of learning.tho in the aspect of making one slaves I think its personal self and it's bent on the employer like some really like to stress a workers life just for their gain but it's not that they are enslaving you but they want you to learn from the situation.
And of a truth  salaries are not bond tied to workers to keep them working, I said this because your efforts and inputs is what your being paid for so you worth it.

The person who said that made a ignorant statement.... In some countries maybe, but esp capitalist countries this isn't even remotely accurate. Choosing to work for an employer is an agreement. there's no difference between choosing to be your own boss and agreeing to a transaction. And the reality is a lot of people aren't capable of being their own boss, responsible or knowledgeable enough.  this idiotic statement implies anyone profiting from your work is the equivalent to a slave owner but no one is going to help someone for nothing.  the person that said this is obviously a woke, privileged child.

I think that is a majority of the newer generations opinion too... (anti-rich) for example door dash, it's always the employer's fault for not giving a livable wage when the workers agree to that wage...
Personally i think it's just viral bs to bully more tips but they drive around in an air-conditioned car delivering burgers with no requirements... taking a burger from point A to point B.
It shouldn't be a job that gives a livable wage, and it has always been marketed as a side hustle, not a full-time job.
If they collectively demanded more, they would either be paid more or DoorDash would just close.

a person's value is what they "choose" it is. If i "agree" to work for $20 or a even penny, i'm not a slave, it's more like i'm my own boss and my product is time and effort.

You can say regulations and restrictions of different countries set up the conditions that affect your choices but unless you're forcibly being made to work for an amount you don't agree with, workers are not slaves

Not everyone is able to be their own bosses. Sometimes our only alternative is to work for someone else. I just think everyone should have short, medium and long term goals in mind, so they can adapt such goals to their currently labor life, and vice versa.

That is, to calculate for how long they will need to work in a job they aren't happy with, until having access to another jobs opportunities. Or for how long they will have to be an employee until being able to finally work for themselves.

Sacrifices are needed in the present time, especially if you are young and your career is just beginning. But every sacrifices made right now are necessary in order to reach better life conditions and opportunities in the future. It's part of the process.

The fact people nowadays see work equally to slavery is a common phenomenon among the newest generations. These youngs aren't interested in working, as they were taught since an early age to have a plethora of rights which must be guaranteed to them by society and governments. This concept is part of the globalist culture which has been demagogically spread by organizations such as United Nations to citizens from third world countries.

Instead of motivating people to work and thrive, they encourage people into becoming heavily dependant on the pennies governments offer through welfare programs.

I’ve heard all my life so many statements like this being made by those “edgy” people and how all of us working a 9-5 are just slaves / rats working for “the man” and that we are just all preprogrammed to do this blah blah blah but I never hear their “solution” to this issue. How are we supposed to live ? What are we supposed to do otherwise..I never hear this.