This is somewhat true but its the the workers who are actually the slaves, its those which have debt, then they are slaves.
Many people live debt free, they live within their means. They can work whenever they are bored and take time off when they dont want to work, they are free.
Those with debt are different. They live paycheck to paycheck and if they dont pay their bills by going to work they can lose their house, car, etc. They aren't free, they need to work whether they want to or not. This is the difference. My opinion is that debt is slavery and not just being a regular worker.
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September 07, 2024, 06:28:25 PM
September 07, 2024, 05:39:50 PM
However, we all know this is is a very inappropriate way of thinking. Everyone is working these days, except for those lazy individuals, so does that means that we are slaves these days?
I do feel it’s inappropriate to qualify workers with such word “Slave”, that’s a huge one and it doesn’t add up to me. I get the go concept of being fed just enough or what your employer feels it’s your worth to keep you under the radar or running the rate race but, not everyone were meant to be CEOs. Also, most CEOs as we have them today had a humble beginning somewhere or grew on what was set for them by their forebears. It’s a cycle of life and you’re sure to find yourself somewhere along its lines. You just ensure you make the most use of it and do the most good only you can do.No one is a slave for having to work and earn a living. Slavery talks about lack of freewill or freedom but, you always have an option to quit with the least displeasure. You only get to allow yourself work in an unpleasing situation and that’s entirely on you!
September 07, 2024, 04:23:38 PM
I would agree that getting a good amount of salary will motivate these workers to keep working but pointing out that workers are like slaves, this is a very wrong perception. Everyone that works and receives proper compensation does not fall into slavery, otherwise these managers as well that are working for its company owner will also turn out as a slave.
However, we all know this is is a very inappropriate way of thinking. Everyone is working these days, except for those lazy individuals, so does that means that we are slaves these days?
However, we all know this is is a very inappropriate way of thinking. Everyone is working these days, except for those lazy individuals, so does that means that we are slaves these days?
The approach of identifying all workers as slaves is supposed to be considered, but all workers are not the normal old days’s slaves but modified slaves. That is why they are been giving money as a payment every month, which will make them minimise their needs based on a fixed amount, which is why we mostly emphasise having a budget in our daily lives.
But the truth, most be told, is that there is no solution to that; the system has been minimised based on having a job, which is why we have to go and study from the creche continuously to the college, which is the time we are going for that more to the university, and after graduation and having the degree, we will end up with you as workers that get paid monthly.
But when you look deep, you will understand that having knowledge goes a long way in life, and you can’t spend that much in school just for the sake of experience; you will have to practice it, and it must be working under an organisation. It might be that the owner of the organisation is even illiterate, so I will also agree that having a job or working under a person for is slavery.
September 07, 2024, 04:18:29 PM
In the context of a slave is a person who is bought to be employed but the rights and freedoms in his life he cannot have because he is taken away by his master but for a worker in the end this cannot be said to be a slave even though the concept is the same “being employed” but when talking about the rights and freedoms of an employee or employee of course we are aware that they still have that so it is not too suitable if this is said to be slavery.
As for the issue of salary, it can also be said as a bond to keep working but this word is only a rough language because in my opinion salary is included in the rights we have when we have worked and there has been an agreement / MOU from the start where in the end when our obligations have been carried out in this case the work we do, there will be rights that we get in this case is a salary. So by looking at this condition, its actually a symbiotic mutualism where we as employees do need a salary as a tool to strengthen economic conditions and survive in the life we live and they leaders need our services for the business being run so that this is not the same as the concept of slavery.
As for the issue of salary, it can also be said as a bond to keep working but this word is only a rough language because in my opinion salary is included in the rights we have when we have worked and there has been an agreement / MOU from the start where in the end when our obligations have been carried out in this case the work we do, there will be rights that we get in this case is a salary. So by looking at this condition, its actually a symbiotic mutualism where we as employees do need a salary as a tool to strengthen economic conditions and survive in the life we live and they leaders need our services for the business being run so that this is not the same as the concept of slavery.
September 07, 2024, 03:58:27 PM
I would agree that getting a good amount of salary will motivate these workers to keep working but pointing out that workers are like slaves, this is a very wrong perception. Everyone that works and receives proper compensation does not fall into slavery, otherwise these managers as well that are working for its company owner will also turn out as a slave.
However, we all know this is is a very inappropriate way of thinking. Everyone is working these days, except for those lazy individuals, so does that means that we are slaves these days?
However, we all know this is is a very inappropriate way of thinking. Everyone is working these days, except for those lazy individuals, so does that means that we are slaves these days?
September 07, 2024, 01:38:42 PM
While I do agree that salaries are not really that high and the working conditions are not that good, I have to say slaves were whipped, beaten, killed, raped and tortured, and we are not. You may disagree that the living conditions we have are good, and you are right we could have a lot better, but that doesn't mean that we are going to compare what we live in right now, to someone who lived just 100 years ago, let alone a thousand years ago.
We are having a much better life, even with a lot of problems that we face today, it's nothing close to what previous generations lived through and that is why we should be happy with what we are having today because it indicates our children and their children will have even better life.
Most of this came from workers protesting of course, back in the day there weren't any weekends, there weren't any child labour laws, there weren't any 8 hour shifts, boss's would work you until you die or you were fired, so we need to remember that for the future to have a better life.
We are having a much better life, even with a lot of problems that we face today, it's nothing close to what previous generations lived through and that is why we should be happy with what we are having today because it indicates our children and their children will have even better life.
Most of this came from workers protesting of course, back in the day there weren't any weekends, there weren't any child labour laws, there weren't any 8 hour shifts, boss's would work you until you die or you were fired, so we need to remember that for the future to have a better life.
September 07, 2024, 06:40:09 AM
We know that some companies exploit workers and treat them like modern slaves. You see the CEOs living in luxury while workers are paid peanuts. But that's not the case in other firms. Some workers are paid handsomely and they earn more than some business owners. For businesses to survive they also need to cut costs which might include poor remuneration. In these current economic conditions, running a business is very difficult so we need to praise some business owners that are still keeping workers.
I disagree when business people treat their employees like slaves. But the OP's statement that workers are slaves and salary is a bond to keep them working. As DrBeer said, if an employee feels enslaved by the business people then please leave and create your own business. Most people who become employees are those who do not dare to start a business or they do not have enough capital and connections. So being an employee is a choice even though in some companies we can see slavery. Sometimes some people do need a job. And being an employee is also an option even though it cannot make you rich.It is true that everyone who chooses to become an employee is because they have no other choice that they can do to be able to have an income to meet their needs, but there are also those who work as employees until they have enough capital and after that they leave the job to start a business and it is true as you said that of course it will depend on a person's choice whether they want to remain an employee or start their own business.
September 07, 2024, 06:39:37 AM
We know that some companies exploit workers and treat them like modern slaves. You see the CEOs living in luxury while workers are paid peanuts. But that's not the case in other firms. Some workers are paid handsomely and they earn more than some business owners. For businesses to survive they also need to cut costs which might include poor remuneration. In these current economic conditions, running a business is very difficult so we need to praise some business owners that are still keeping workers.
I disagree when business people treat their employees like slaves. But the OP's statement that workers are slaves and salary is a bond to keep them working. As DrBeer said, if an employee feels enslaved by the business people then please leave and create your own business. Most people who become employees are those who do not dare to start a business or they do not have enough capital and connections. So being an employee is a choice even though in some companies we can see slavery. Sometimes some people do need a job. And being an employee is also an option even though it cannot make you rich.We are in modern ages know where everyone know their right so thinking about getting exploited somehow doesn't always happen in work place since somehow people could get immediate help with private institutions since they can get money for working on their companies.
But I understand that there are people don't have a choice but to work with their current job which they really don't like, If they just explore what they can do outside maybe they could find good opportunities that fit for them. Also people have right to resign on their job without getting harm nowadays so those slavery thing doesn't really happen these days. Although maybe they mentioned low salaries job, but they can do something as mentioned creating business if they have courage maybe the best solution but not everyone can deal with it and risk to get out of their comfort zone.
September 07, 2024, 12:04:00 AM
We know that some companies exploit workers and treat them like modern slaves. You see the CEOs living in luxury while workers are paid peanuts. But that's not the case in other firms. Some workers are paid handsomely and they earn more than some business owners. For businesses to survive they also need to cut costs which might include poor remuneration. In these current economic conditions, running a business is very difficult so we need to praise some business owners that are still keeping workers.
I disagree when business people treat their employees like slaves. But the OP's statement that workers are slaves and salary is a bond to keep them working. As DrBeer said, if an employee feels enslaved by the business people then please leave and create your own business. Most people who become employees are those who do not dare to start a business or they do not have enough capital and connections. So being an employee is a choice even though in some companies we can see slavery. Sometimes some people do need a job. And being an employee is also an option even though it cannot make you rich. 
September 06, 2024, 06:38:14 PM
It is not everyone that has capacity of running their own business, some people just prefer to work for other to get paid. They don't want to stress themselves to start thinking about how to set up a business but prefer to be employed and work for others.
OP, you should also know that if everybody in a country becomes a Boss, who will be the workers or people do carry out other responsibilities. It means that life will not be balanced. There is need for employees and employer to make the country a better place because we all have our knowledge of different skills in various areas.
I can be the best employee but the worst employer.
Not everyone is given privilege to be his boss of his own. Some are just good enough as workers, not because they aren't capable to, but because they can be assets in the company as workers for future growth and progress. And while others have the talents and skills to run or manage their own business or company, some should start as workers first in order to gain knowledge and experience so they can be reputable leaders or managers in the future. OP, you should also know that if everybody in a country becomes a Boss, who will be the workers or people do carry out other responsibilities. It means that life will not be balanced. There is need for employees and employer to make the country a better place because we all have our knowledge of different skills in various areas.
I can be the best employee but the worst employer.
September 06, 2024, 12:47:23 PM
I am looking for a brilliant movie clip that is around 90 years old. give me a moment. to find it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lad5bc6Gpb4
under 30 seconds and while meant as a joke it is true .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lad5bc6Gpb4
under 30 seconds and while meant as a joke it is true .
Not for nothing a wage is close enough to a wager which is a bet.
September 06, 2024, 12:17:43 PM
If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.).
In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.
Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?
Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss.
Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.
In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.
In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.
Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?
Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss.
Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.
In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.
Most workers are wage slaves. Even in a high end first world country.
Most workers never achieve financial freedom.
I am looking for a brilliant movie clip that is around 90 years old. give me a moment. to find it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lad5bc6Gpb4
under 30 seconds and while meant as a joke it is true .
September 06, 2024, 12:14:23 PM
If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.).
In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.
Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?
Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss.
Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.
In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.
I won't actually say that workers are slaves. There are people who work with others just to make their own dreams come true. Everyone cannot be a CEO. There are people who enjoys working under others people's leadership, it is their choice to work there, nobody forced them. Slaves are people that are compelled to do things out of their own will. Mean while Some people work for others just to raise funds and establish themselves later in life. For the economy to keep growing, people will definitely have have to work under others people's leadership and companies. If we all established our companies and businesses at some point we will be stagnated, because we can't fill all the roles ourselves, we will still need people to work with us. If we see or workers as slaves we won't treat them nice. We should see our workers as people who are part of the vision in making our dreams become reality.In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.
Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?
Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss.
Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.
In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.
September 06, 2024, 12:02:41 PM
If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job
It is considered as modern-day slavery and those things are quite true to certain extent, by being an employee though your entire life you could hardly make any rapid changes in the standard of your life, you work until you die that's what the old age slaves did too but we are doing in the more modern way.
The context of the discussion should be we can't become rich by working for someone, you can become rich only if you become an employer or investing or any other way that your continuous efforts will lead to compounding effect in the returns.
September 06, 2024, 10:32:52 AM
It is not everyone that has capacity of running their own business, some people just prefer to work for other to get paid. They don't want to stress themselves to start thinking about how to set up a business but prefer to be employed and work for others.
OP, you should also know that if everybody in a country becomes a Boss, who will be the workers or people do carry out other responsibilities. It means that life will not be balanced. There is need for employees and employer to make the country a better place because we all have our knowledge of different skills in various areas.
I can be the best employee but the worst employer.
OP, you should also know that if everybody in a country becomes a Boss, who will be the workers or people do carry out other responsibilities. It means that life will not be balanced. There is need for employees and employer to make the country a better place because we all have our knowledge of different skills in various areas.
I can be the best employee but the worst employer.
September 06, 2024, 08:46:41 AM
A simple question to those who think work is slavery and unfair process, answer the question: why don't you create your own business, and not just give away money to people who do not want to bring profit to your business and you, but at least just once a month come to you and get money from you ? 
That will be the most interesting thing in this discussion !
We know that some companies exploit workers and treat them like modern slaves. You see the CEOs living in luxury while workers are paid peanuts. But that's not the case in other firms. Some workers are paid handsomely and they earn more than some business owners. For businesses to survive they also need to cut costs which might include poor remuneration. In these current economic conditions, running a business is very difficult so we need to praise some business owners that are still keeping workers. That will be the most interesting thing in this discussion !
Tell me - is someone forcing these workers to work for such bad employers ? I.e. the employer caught this poor worker, shackled him and chained him to the workplace ? Probably not. Maybe the employee himself is a fool and agreed to such a job under such conditions ? And who forbade this worker to create his own business and earn a lot?
Why do people, when assessing the situation, most often “assign blame” to those who are simply more successful, intelligent, .... ? The answer is simple - otherwise we will have to recognize the reality, where the lazy and afraid of responsibility always live worse than those who are ready to make efforts and take responsibility.
September 06, 2024, 04:40:20 AM
If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.).
In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.
Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?
Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss.
Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.
In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.
I won't actually say that workers are slaves. There are people who work with others just to make their own dreams come true. Everyone cannot be a CEO. There are people who enjoys working under others people's leadership, it is their choice to work there, nobody forced them. Slaves are people that are compelled to do things out of their own will. Mean while Some people work for others just to raise funds and establish themselves later in life. For the economy to keep growing, people will definitely have have to work under others people's leadership and companies. If we all established our companies and businesses at some point we will be stagnated, because we can't fill all the roles ourselves, we will still need people to work with us. If we see or workers as slaves we won't treat them nice. We should see our workers as people who are part of the vision in making our dreams become reality. In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.
Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?
Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss.
Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.
In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.
September 05, 2024, 04:47:34 PM
If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.).
In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.
Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?
Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss.
Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.
In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.
We do need a work for us to live and considering that not all people born with having a silver spoon or simply having a rich family then we would really be needing to work hard our ass off for us to survive.In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.
Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?
Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss.
Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.
In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.
We are living on a world on which you cant be able to live or survive on day to day if you dont have the money on which simply means that money could be obtained through having a work on which of course there would really be other path or options which is on having investment or business but only a few could really be able to touch up these things and this is something that not everyone could really be able to touch or involved with it.
This is why its somehow that judgmental for us to say that people are considered to be slaves because not one really likes to live on this one but the sad reality or fact of this life then it doesnt really give out any choice for us to choose but rather we would be sticking into things on which we do know on where we do able to survive and there's no doubt that people will be engaging with it.
It is really that hard on having no work and even having a degree doesnt really give out an assurance that you could land up a work after you had graduated in college on which this simply means that
you would really be still need to compete with other people to land a job because you do know deep inside that if you couldnt have a work then you would really be ending up on miserable in terms of
way or standard of living. Just like been said that there's no choice that we could have and thats why we just simply accept on dealing with it.
September 05, 2024, 04:40:51 PM
Who are slaves?
Anyone that is not forced to work is not a slave even if the person is not paid. People are motivated by the money that is paid them and that is not slavery.
Also slaves are property of their master/owner. A boss of a company is nobody's owner.
As long as you are not harassed in your working place, then you can't call it slavery. Slaves are only those who work and still get punished, but if you are getting good compensation due to hard work done, then that is pure job, and does not make any apprehension that you are a slave of your own boss. You work on your own with the help of your boss, that's more of guidance and direction indeed. Quote
a person who is forced to work for and obey another and is considered to be their property; an enslaved person.
Anyone that is not forced to work is not a slave even if the person is not paid. People are motivated by the money that is paid them and that is not slavery.
Also slaves are property of their master/owner. A boss of a company is nobody's owner.
September 05, 2024, 04:07:33 PM
In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.
Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?
There is one thing that we need to know about being an employee or an owner. Both of them are slaves that work for money because no matter what, they will stress themselves out in order for them to get paid. An owner will work to get the money to pay his staff, while staff will work to get paid. So it is simply only those that make money to work for them. This means that even without working, they will still get their money, and before you can achieve that, you will have to be hard-working for at least some years or through inheritance. Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?
So if he encourages him not to work for anyone but to establish his own business, then who will work for him? Because everyone will also decide to create their own business, then no one will work for anyone, so that is not making sense.
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