Topic: Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly? (Read 955 times)

Once that process starts and it gets encouraged by getting money to sustain their addiction why would it stop? When a person gets to the point of begging their loved ones and even strangers for money, we can safely say they will not understand that what they are doing is wrong, until they hit rock bottom and no one is willing to lend them any money anymore.

And even then there are some gamblers that are so far gone that no matter what they experiment, they will never overcome their gambling issues.

Actually no amount of funds is worth throwing away like willingly giving out to gambling as a course of lost.
Nomatter how minimal a fund maybe, it is to have more values than for staking on gambling even though gambling is to proffering multiplications of stakes.

This is just why it is reasonable to being responsible in gambling.
Hence I wouldn't still ignore to assist in crowdfunding to such one of an irresponsible gambler who has seized to utilize his funds instead staking and loosing them to gambling.
I am to believe that I am or had been into the system of gambling so I should be good enough to understand such situations.
Of course I will participate to assist such a person as long as I am financially stabled enough to help but on a contrary, if the gambler is a usually finding to betting his funds meant to be utilized on some important amenities, I would withdraw my give away heart towards him.

Yes, maybe they won't gamble immediately, but that depends on each person because for those who often gamble, getting money from other people makes them think they can gamble first to get more money and then use it for important things. But for those who don't gamble too often, they might think twice about gambling and there is a possibility that they will even use the money to open a business so that they don't depend too much on gambling to make money. If that's what they do, they can really use their money for their own benefit and really think about their family's needs rather than just gambling.

Yes, you could say it's like a donation because there are people who give their money to other people. Maybe it's for gambling, but if they can use the money for other, more important things, that would be even better. They can try to create a source of income outside of gambling so that they can make money from what they make.

Gambling may be fun and skill-building, despite its misperception. It requires strategy, patience, and occasionally luck, not just money. This acknowledgement is key to understanding why not all people spend recklessly after receiving wealth. Even gamblers may prioritize important expenses, showing responsibility.

The difference between "contribution" and "crowdfunding" is complicated. Donations dont usually earn crypto tokens. However, the reward may be intangible, like helping someone change their life. Isnt that possibly more precious than any token? Understanding the repercussions of our actions on individuals and society is crucial.

I’m curious. Why does donation seem right and not crowdfunding to you, when they mean more or less the same thing. Crowdfunding is self explanatory. Asking/begging money from a bunch of people you don’t know and will probably never meet over the internet. And in this scenario, crowdfunding seems to be the right word.

More likely than not, an irresponsible gambler having burnt through whatever money and savings he had on gambling, would equally after being helped out by strangers and friends, would begin to repeat the process that got him broke all over again.

I don't think they will play gambling immediately right after they get the money but they will first use those on the important things. And maybe they can even change after this because they are too ashamed of their selves and they are doing this as another way of saying thanks.

Yes, there are always people who are too soft and are willing to help the person who are in need of help. Maybe some of them are also an addict before. They know how hard it is to become one. Still, I don't think crowdfunding is the right word to be used here but it's more like a donation already, since we can't get something in return such as a token, same as what we have here in the crypto world.

He need to hold his own balls if he decide to participate on any gambling activities so there's no sense to help those crazy gamblers experiencing a huge financial loss due to their crazy decision made while betting. Its good for them to learn a valuable lesson since they will not be a better person or a responsible gambler if there's some people willing to help him up once he made a crazy decisions in life. Funding them could worsen up the situation and might would provably think about engaging it again since they are been save up by some people near him. Learning his mistake really can help so instead of giving him a money as form of help much better if he get a good advice from us or from the person they trusted the most since this could help them more.

Whether a gambler will learn from their mistake and won't repeat it next time depends if they are addicted to gambling or not. There are two types of people who make such mistakes. The first type is addicted gamblers who gets money in their hand and can't control the urge and gamble it away, and the second category is of the gamblers who are not generally addicted gamblers but they spend the money on gambling while either trying to gain more money since they need it or just because they got greedy.

If the gambler who lost everything in gambling and is asking for monetary assistance is an addicted gambler, I wouldn't want to do a crowdfunding event for them, but if the person isn't addicted but did it because they needed more money and they thought they can achieve that through gambling, I might think about it in case he is struck by an emergency.

Just like been said that there's no sense on doing so because funding or trying to participate on a crowdfund for such addicted person, then for what? Just like been said by
others if these amounts or funds would be making use in terms of those professional expenses on trying out to assess those addicts then it might be considered but in speaking about
funding them more then it is really just that totally a different idea or the real essence on trying out to help a certain gambling on which instead of helping then it would be worsening up the
situation even more on which it is really just that having no sense just like on what i said earlier. Learning from your own mistakes is the nearest thing that you do have in mind or should
be having in mind because if you are that serious on quitting then you wont really be needing any help.

They should be able to realize that to solve their problems, they do not need to use gambling but must find a way so that they are no longer stressed or frustrated. If they take it out on gambling, it will only make the problem bigger because if someone does not have self-control in gambling, they will experience losing money and become addicted to gambling. If they bring the problem to gambling, it will not solve the problem, but they will get another problem, which may be even more complicated.

And using gambling as entertainment when we are having problems is not a good solution. We should calm ourselves down while looking for a solution or telling other people about it so we can get ideas for overcoming the problems we face. We also won't lose money from gambling because we don't use gambling to solve problems.

No, I will not participate in raising funds for such gamblers and the community has no responsibility to help people who make such mistakes other than taking them to a therapist for treatment so that the person can get out of addiction, because people who gamble with funds are should not be used for gambling, it can be said to be an addict, because he cannot control himself, and helping by collecting funds will not give him awareness so that he can become responsible, in fact it is very possible that he will use this for his own gain, so the community should not do it apart from taking him to a therapist so he can recover.

I don't like holding people responsible for their mistakes, everyone makes mistakes and if I have to fund a gambler it will depend on what happened after he lost all his money to gambling, did he learn some lessons already? What he plans to do from here on, everyone has their issues and difficulties, we are all trying to make a way and without mistakes it will be difficult to grow.

If he failed to learn from is irresponsible gambling then I can say no to him, most gamblers are irresponsible at first, and this is because of the problem that affected their lives, they are finding means to make a new change in their life so I don't blame anyone for trying.

Not learning from your mistake is the biggest issue here, because you will never grow, I don't like gambling too much, it's not because of anything else but I am only trying to avoid getting addicted to it, I am someone who get attached to something I do everytime, I am just trying to protect myself in a good way.

I feel like this is right but I can't necessarily agree with this, I definitely feel like some people are getting away with consequences so easily, it's not just with gambling, I think that this is a trend right now especially with social media platforms where everyone wants to be famous and so they do stupid and borderline criminal pranks and they get away with just saying that it's just a prank or something like that, I really feel good inside whenever scums that are getting their just desserts. I don't know about the laughing at them though, maybe don't do it in front of them?
Best analogy question for this one although I do think that any addiction would still be the same if not get much better because some alcoholics have their problem rooted in something far worse and they might see alcohol as an escape, it's not a good thing to tolerate someone who's clearly destroying themselves and are already showing signs that your help will only be appreciated because it just fuels their addiction. I do think that it's weird that people are thinking to do this kind of stuff, crowdfunding for someone who's clearly losing money already from gambling unless you want and like to watch them crash and burn, I don't see the point of funding that addiction.
It's not "it's like", you are being an accessory to their addiction because besides tolerating it, you are also fueling them when they should've stopped a long time ago because they're not doing themselves any favor continuing to gamble. I don't think that your way of helping them is going to go the way you want it because as noble as it is, you are going to be tempting them to use that money for recovery to gamble, better if they don't see any when they're really trying to recover.

It is because of this that not only the addiction itself must be treated, but the reasons that made someone to take that path to begin with should be treated as well, because if this is not done then even if a person could leave their addiction behind then at some point they will go back to their old ways or even develop a new addiction.

However this is not very common as rehabilitation centers simply do not have the resources to do this, and it is often up to the former addicted to figure out this critical step and improve on their own.

That's why I mentioned that there's a thin line when answering this question, as it's a highly complicated matter. There's a reason someone becomes addicted, whether it's alcohol, gambling, painkillers, you name it. There's always a deeper reason behind someone's behavior. You don't suddenly wake up one day and decide to start blowing your money at a casino.

You're seeking a way out, possibly out of your mental health issues, such as depression, social anxiety, stress, or other issues that are preventing you from living. It's not as simple as we name it, you're looking for ways to numb the pain you're experiencing, it's a getaway. Unfortunately, we're too quick to make assumptions and point the finger at people who are showing signs that indicate they might be battling with something greater. It always starts with something else, but we're always focusing on the tree, not the forest.

It reminds me a case which was discussed here in the gambling section some weeks ago about a woman (I think she is from Nigeria) who streamed herself placing some sportbets. I assume she was very confident on her luck because otherwise, I would not understand how she thought streaming herself like that would be a good idea.
In the end, she lost all of her wager and what it was supposed to be a celebration and bragging streaming, turned into a pitiful display of tears and crying...
I try not to judge those who fall victim of their own greed and end up lamenting their choices, because I personally believe that most human beings can easily find themselves in a similar situation, leaving greed to take over.

I can't help but agree with what you said. I'm completely against people who spend money that is supposed to be used for something else in gambling and then when they lose it, they start crying and whining and saying that they are in dire need of money for whatever reason it is, they shouldn't have gambled with it in the first place even if they did it because they needed more money and they thought they can get that from gambling because they should have known that gambling is not a way to make guaranteed money and you shouldn't risk money that is very important in gambling.

However, as you said, if you witness with your own eyes that the person is in need of money for something like an emergency medical condition or anything else that needs to be taken care of as soon as possible, it might melt your heart and you decide to do it but you should still not give the money once collected to the gambler but pay it straight for the cause.

The gambler had the chance of both win and lose option,So helping the gambler for the gambling will not be the better option.If you know him well or if they had the assets thrice of your money giving value,then you can offer the loan.So if the gambler had loss the game,he will short your loan using their holding assets.Being the gambler I will recommend the gambler to get loan for the gambling,because we should need to pay for the loss if occured in the gambling sites.The risk in the gambling was worth of it.But if the gambler take the loan,it will be unwanted risk for the game.So the gambler use their own money for the gambling will keep him the pressure less game.

How do you intend to do it when they're far from you? He's been tagged an irresponsible gambler, helping him with money can be risky, yet it can be life changing. It's not certain he won't gamble with the money like you said. On our side as friends or family member we'll be brooding over his actions or what he'll say about us. Most times it's not easy to neglect loved ones, even when we are sure of their bad attitude or behavior. It hurts to plunder about the struggle they're into, while we help with funds, or don't help. Whatever, the action we take on them, that's not regarding their welbeing or saving them from such a condition, won't be enough. Every family tend to have a person like that; gambling or drug addict. It's the responsibility of the family to look into different therapy to cure them. And negligence worsen their conditions, and if the family isn't comfortable with him anymore, then the society won't as well. That's a pollution to the entire wealth of the society. As he'll be unknowingly wasting funds, he'd use on other utilities, on gambling. Your idea is valid, if he's close, taking care of the expenses on his behalf can leave him only battling over becoming a better person, and restrict him from gambling at the moment. Then following up with a team work on ways to eliminate his trouble. The process matters, but within you, it'll worth it once he's fine. After that, you'd understand the huge mental disorder he was passing through. Which won't give you a reason to blame addicts, when they mishandle funds and act differently. I was once against helping addicts, both financially and otherwise, until a close friend went through and survived addiction. He told me about what he's been through. The whole stress and heartbreak isn't simple to fight, alone.

And what's the guarantee that after donating and giving him the money he wouldn't use it to gamble again?
There are some things one shouldn't do, I like to help people in my own little way, but not when the help won't amount t anything. If I have a friend who's lost money that's meant for something else to gambling and he reaches out to me for help, honestly even if I have the money, I won't send it to him, but instead what I'll do is help him solve that problem that required that money directly, if it's money for school fees, I'll single handedly go ahead to pay the fees myself and avod giving him the money directly, because he might just have the thought of multiplying that money and decides to go gamble again and still throw it away, that way you'll regret ever helping him with the money. So it's better to help the person solve the problem and not to give him the money to go solve the problem himself. Because loosing money that's meant for something else means he's irresponsible and lacks self control when it coms to gambling and such a person can't be trusted with money.