Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly? - page 8.

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Quote from: Odohu on November 21, 2023, 01:08:28 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 21, 2023, 01:05:20 PM

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

If he gambled irresponsibly, then he does not need crowdfunidng rather he needs to visit a psychologist for help on how to deal with his gambling addiction. Giving money to him is just telling him to continue from where he stopped.

So I don't see the need for crowdfunding such fellow and I will never be a part of it.

Thank you mate, it's as simple as you have explained it because no gambler that posses that kind of attributes should be let to continue in gambling, let alone be crowd funded. Every irresponsible gambler needs help although gambling addicts dont normally take advice from person and only them can be of help to their own crazy habits because if their is no willingness to stop it then the gambler doesn't need a thing like what crowdfunding because it's a total waist of funds.

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Honestly it's difficult to judge without having to know the real reason why they actually gambled that money away... what if they were short and have tried everything they can think of to try to make the extra cash to pay for a medical operation, or school fees etc...

We need to accept that not everyone gambles for the purpose of fun, most people do this for the money!! And if gambler lost their money and went for the crowdfund option to get it back.. honestly it's a probable chance that I would support such a user , but with a back story I can support it and without it it's not possible.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 21, 2023, 01:05:20 PM

And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Definitely not. And honestly this is the first time I read something about crowdfunding someone to gamble, especially someone irresponsible. I never heard anything about that before!
To anyone who are thinking of doing that, have a second thought and reflect if it is really worth doing. Remember thag you could use those money to fund other charities for our poor, our environment, etc.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 21, 2023, 01:05:20 PM

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Your take on the content you created is very facinating. If I even have the slightest sympathy for a gambler, it would be someone who is very close, who wins more often then they loose and who is very lavish with the winnings they have had so far of which I really appreciate.
Else, crowdfunding a gambler on a quest of probabilities is not a good investment I would love to dabble in, even if the cash in my pockets are throwing away.

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I wouldn't participate in such crowd funding but if it's possible bi reach out to his kids and help them get their fees paid without the interference of their father I would, not because I want to help the man but for the sake of the kids to have a better future and not suffer for their fathers foolishness.

Talking about gambling responsibly it doesn't only end at the casino with you not placing reckless huge amounts but it begins with the decisions you make, how you go about funding your gambling wallet and how well you control yourself when it has to do with the funds you invest in gambling. Using funds that were kept aside for projects and other responsibilities to gamble is highly irresponsible and shouldn't be encouraged.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 21, 2023, 01:05:20 PM

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Your original question was pretty ridiculous and now you've added in another layer of stupidity? People who throw away their own money and end up crippled might deserve a shred of sympathy, however they need to take it as a learning experience that once they rebuild, never to go that deep down the hole again. However people who steal other peoples money will and should find themselves serving a jail sentence, because it is simple theft and it doesn't matter the reason. Would you "crowdsource" charitable funds for a thief? No, you would not, so why do you think throwing the word gambler into the mix would make it any better. It's not a thief that was trying to save a starving puppy, it was a selfish and greedy thief trying to enrich themselves.

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Crowdfunding an irresponsible gambler that lost his money meant for a project to gambling is another form of encouraging his irresponsibility. If a gambler can use money that he was to use for important project as marriage, child school fees, or a house rent for gambling he's not worth giving any form of financial assistance what he urgently need us a rehab because that's an addiction impulse he is breeding. For every action in life there's always a consequence attached and people should be allowed to face the consequences of their action so that by the experience they can learn to take a leave from irresponsible attitudes towards gambling.

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This question comes up frequently, and the answer should be a resounding no from everyone.
It's not healthy to fund with your own money someone else's addiction. Especially if you appreciate this person, you'd be doing them a better service by just saying no.
Better yet, you can offer them some options to get something tangible if they actually quit.

A history of irresponsible gambling should sound alarm bells. It's not bad to recommend help sometimes. Be it the person itself or someone in their close circle.

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No, that's not an interesting idea to me. Every gambler must be responsible for the consequences that arise as a result of his gambling habits. They must have control so as not to fall into trouble and even if they do get into trouble, then rehabilitation is what they need.

Gamblers must indoctrinate themselves not to gamble beyond their financial limits. They should not use investment money, savings, etc. that they still need to live their lives to gamble. Not sure if this idea is acceptable among gamblers, even the government will not provide compensation to losing and irresponsible gamblers.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 21, 2023, 01:05:20 PM

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Well it depends the kind of person that is involved because there are some persons in the society that are known for awful behaviors so those kind of people when they're the ones that are involved in spending money given to them for important things or projects, it will be difficult to raise fund for that kinda person but if it involves someone that isn't used to such behavior but suddenly he starts behaving in such manner, people will have compassion on the person because they know he isn't a wayward person so something most have made him take such a decision without thinking about the outcome, so they can possibly raise fund for that kind of person, give them advice and way to scale through their challenges so definitely donating money to someone that carelessly misused funds that ought to be used for other important things is actually dependent on the behavior and characters of the individual involved.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on November 21, 2023, 04:18:45 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 21, 2023, 01:05:20 PM

Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Sometimes it is good to allow people suffer the consequences of their actions so they can learn from the bitter experience, especially when the consequence that they are suffering is from an action that you warned them about. Showing empathy and providing assistance to some of these people never helps them, but only encourages them to continue because they know you will show empathy toward them.

I can always reconsider my decision and stance on this matter in special cases of family and some friends, but not for strangers.

People wont realize something if they do able to keep on gambling, so making some crowdfund and providing even more money will really just worsen up the situation.
This is why it is really just that indeed better that letting someone do experience the worst, it might sound harsh but this is the only way that they would really be able to learn up things.
Its not really that right on trying out to support an irresponsible person unless on some exemptions but on this case then helping him would really be no sense.

Just like been said that it would really just continuing for him to do things which arent supposed to be done. Anything excessive would really be that bad
so it is really just that right that making them learn about their mistakes and experience the worst would be the best teacher on this kind of scenario or condition.

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Nope, no chance even for the benefit of the doubt, I won't. It's hard to entrust money with the people you've known that have been drowned and addicted in gambling. Yes, we're into gambling but we know that being too much on it and with everything doesn't look good. That's the reason why people with gambling issues are not to be trusted with money. Go into the typical angel investing groups and if you tell them that the one pitches the project or the crowdfunding is into gambling, most of them are going to stop their interest to what's being pitched to them. There's a reason why we're all acting like that because we're gamblers and we know someone's approach will change if they're doing something that gambles their own money and what's more if they successfully crowdfunded? The money that someone has is hard earned money and we do understand why it's hard to entrust it to people that can't even manage themselves.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 21, 2023, 01:05:20 PM

Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Sometimes it is good to allow people suffer the consequences of their actions so they can learn from the bitter experience, especially when the consequence that they are suffering is from an action that you warned them about. Showing empathy and providing assistance to some of these people never helps them, but only encourages them to continue because they know you will show empathy toward them.

I can always reconsider my decision and stance on this matter in special cases of family and some friends, but not for strangers.

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NO. It will be difficult for gamblers to do crowdfunding even if the funds are for a good cause but it will be difficult for gamblers to do it, when they win, they may continue to add addiction to playing other games and not even think about other things including crowdfunding so this will be more ignored.

I feel that gamblers should feel responsible for their gambling when they have experienced out of control then it will require help including to psychologists to overcome it then this is a difficult thing if they participate in crowdfunding actions. When you think about it, they have more to lose than to win and most gamblers want to always chase their losses before this will remain difficult.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 21, 2023, 01:05:20 PM

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Definitely not. As a gambler, we should know how to play the game responsibly and set limits in betting so we won't be gambling those amount that are not intended to bet in gambling. So if you're gambling irresponsibly, facing the consequences of your action will help you learn your lesson. And I won't support any crowdfunding for such irresponsible gamblers because if I do that, it's like I'm tolerating his wrong doing and allow him to repeat the same mistake again.

Letting him experience the consequences of his actions is the best thing to do. That way, aside that he will learn his lesson, he will start to control his gambling habit from then on and become a responsible gambler. Otherwise, helping him will make him only feel that it's okay to gamble irresponsibly because there are still friends who will make up for him.

We should really be that responsible if we do speak about dealing with gambling since we know that this isnt a money making thing then you should really be playing in moderation but if you are really just that playing for fun then there's no issue. It all matters with someones control and handling towards himself because if you do find out yourself not to be that much effective due to some reasons then its your mistake
on why you do end up miserable or messed up with gambling. Gambling could fucked up our finances and if you arent that careful then it wont be shocking that you would really be ending up on a disastrous condition.
There are really just those people who have those kind of unrealistic goals and this is why they do end up on miserably.

Giving some support? No i wont do such thing. You would be supporting them financially then it would really be just on the same story on which they would really be
spending those funds again and again. They wont learn up a lesson until they would be able to experience those unfortunate events on which i do say
that it is really just that right for them to experience so that they would be able to realize on whats wrong.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 21, 2023, 01:05:20 PM

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Definitely not. As a gambler, we should know how to play the game responsibly and set limits in betting so we won't be gambling those amount that are not intended to bet in gambling. So if you're gambling irresponsibly, facing the consequences of your action will help you learn your lesson. And I won't support any crowdfunding for such irresponsible gamblers because if I do that, it's like I'm tolerating his wrong doing and allow him to repeat the same mistake again.

Letting him experience the consequences of his actions is the best thing to do. That way, aside that he will learn his lesson, he will start to control his gambling habit from then on and become a responsible gambler. Otherwise, helping him will make him only feel that it's okay to gamble irresponsibly because there are still friends who will make up for him.

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if it's for something good to save his life like he has to undergo an operation, i might send some funds. let's give humanity a chance Grin

however, if this fund is for a secret goal, i'd leave it to social media. when money is given, there wouldn't be a way for it to get them if it landed in the hands of someone who is very experienced in spending money like a gambler. he already spent money intended for something. let him learn once and for all. otherwise, he'd just commit over and over.

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BIG NO.

Why? There is a big chance that even they say that crowdfunding is for a big project. It can turns out that it is for their gambling addiction and sustenance.

You know that addicted gamblers can go to that point of their lives that they are desperate and will even tell a lie to the people that they've known for years just for them to have that reasoning to gather funds to gamble again.

This is the sad truth with addiction, you'd do anything for it.

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I can't say presently because it depends on my mood at that present time. Any gambler that lost his funds to gamble might still gamble again when funds are been donated to him base on charity because there is still every possibility that he might start chasing his losses again because he is not a discipline gambler.

On the other hand, if the gambler has learnt a hard lesson from his gambling life, he might still not gamble and use the donated funds for the right purpose. So I don't know that category that the gamblers falls into as someone that has learnt his lesson or not, this is why I might feel reluctant to donate for that gambler.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 21, 2023, 01:05:20 PM

A few days ago, I posed a question in this forum, wondering if, as someone who engages in gambling, you've ever considered thought of giving back to the community if you ever had a successful gambling run. I carefully went through all the responses, maintaining keen interest and taking note of each perspective. Another aspect of the inquiry involves whether you would be willing to participate in crowdfunding for a fellow gambler who reaches out to the public through social media seeking financial support after they gambled with the funds meant for an important project like, investment, school fees, rent, marriage or any other thing. And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?

Only a few might be considering out such step on making some donation or support on showing some empathy or something like this but majority wont really be doing such thing knowing
that they are the ones responsible with their actions on which it is really just that right that they shouldn't really be that be supported or having that kind of trying out to
assist whenever they are on such condition. Im not really be that being too harsh in this regard since people do really make mistakes on which getting some help once should be enough
but on the time that they are really that repeating on the same mistake again and again then this is an another story.

People should really be realizing and learning up things on the hard way or something a situation that they didnt expect that it would happen into their lives.
People do usually be quitting on the time that they had that the lowest condition or worst situation into their lives.

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