Topic: Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly? - page 6. (Read 861 times)

Yes, such “help” only breeds scammers and dependents. I have seen several videos on YouTube about people living in tents on the street in California and Los Angeles. They do nothing but use drugs and live like vegetables. They don’t have to try because local municipalities spend 60 thousand dollars a year on them (lol more than some workers earn by honest labor). They are not disabled, they could work, but since there is an opportunity, they chose a parasitic lifestyle.

No, they've tried to do what the FedEx CEO did when their company is on the verge of bankruptcy, it's their own fault that they've put their priorities in a crooked line so why am I shouldering the burden and is obligated to help them rebuild their own mishaps? I think people are getting it easier nowadays when it comes to consequences so they do stupid stuff like this one and then try to make it everyone's problem when it's clearly their fault. If I ever come across that kind of person, I would probably laugh on their faces because they've made an avoidable mistake, why let me in on your problem? I don't even know you.

Stupid choices. The people themselves made a bad decision, so why should we collectively support and endorse such kind of behavior? The important project as you said is a basic need or necessity, and if someone loses money from gambling instead of preserving the funds for that purpose, then surely it is foolish behavior.

It is not a matter of empathy, but if someone donates to such kind of people, they would rather feel safe and still neglect their responsibility. They would simply think that if they all lost the money, they still get the community back up funds. Which is absurd. Nevertheless, it is a whole completely different problem, if the person itself is heavily addicted so their psychology is affected.

I don't think so. Based on my understanding the guy is irresponsible and he is untrustworthy for that mistake. We are not sure if he really will keep that funds for it's purpose or he will use it again and again in gambling. What he has done should not be tolerated by co-gamblers or else suffer for the worst in the future.

If they gambled away their funds that should be for important needs, do you think they will not gambled away someone money? most people don't give a damn to money from their friends because they think people comes and go, so if they lose one friend, they can search for a new friend. That's why there's a lot case relationship was destroyed because of not repaying a loan.

You can be considered an irresponsible individual,  if you help crowdfund an irresponsible gambler, it's his fault that he loses his money so he should be the one to look for a solution to replace the money that he loses and not beg for money, for all we know he will use the money that people gave him to gamble again.
We should ignore these kinds of people who are not responsible for what they do, the first rule in gambling is only playing with money that you can afford to lose, this means he doesn't know what's money for playing and what's money for important needs.

As a regular player, I will be willing to spend the winning money on community activities. However, I think that these forms are just mentioned to exchange concepts, and I do not believe that many parties are willing to pay for community supports, when most of us are trying to avoid taxes, so don't talk about community contributions, but these are just parts and they do not reflect the full nuances of what is going on.

But anyway, I also highly encourage activities to support and build society, not just through donation activities. In gambling tournaments, I remember there were fundraising matches and that was really brings great meaning when money can support everyone.

Well my take on this is that he should try again next time but to play reasonably. He should not expect crowdfunding when he has behaved irresponsibly. However, I believe addicts can sympathize with him because they understand it and perhaps have been in same shoes before. I don't think I would encourage him to bet with money he can't afford to forego by helping in crowdfunding because that is what it seem like.

Gambling is not a guarantee for profit, so we should play responsibly and bear our consequences because profit never gets to another man's pocket.

You've just agreed that he did the right thing and tolerated his being a compulsive gambler he should be ashamed of himself for asking for money because he lost his money that is intended for important things.
People should not support a gambler for crowdfunding if he has lost his money as he misplaced it and if he shows us proof that he indeed lost his money then we can support him.
I don't think I can support this kind of gambler I will not even give him a penny for being an irresponsible gambler.
People should list their priorities when it comes to money and gambling is not something you prioritize, it should be the least of your priorities.

So you want to know what the meaning is of gambling wins and crowdfunding gambling losses? The truth is that gambling is a game of luck and skill. Some days you win and some days you lose. Should people who win give back? Okay, why not? Its a nice touch to share happiness. Crowdfunding for people who lost their rent money at the tables, though? Lets be honest here.

This has nothing to do with being cruel; it has to do with being responsible. When you gamble, you're having fun, not planning your finances. Donors to these kinds of groups are doing good things, but they are really just supporting a bad way of thinking. Putting a band-aid on a gunshot wound is the same thing. Encouraging? Could be. Wise? Not really.

Going to the casino should be fun and exciting, not a way to get out of making bad choices. Thats how it should stay. Dont use gambling as a crutch for people who arent smart. Keep it fun.

Who in the right mind will do a crowdfunding just to save a irresponsible gambler to get out on the mess he created? For sure no one will help him since its his own decision to be in that worst situation so he need to face a consequence on the action he do.

And for sure if he will not get any help from random people for sure he can learn a lot of things since he would provably realize that he create a huge mistake of his life.

So we should never give a damn taking those problem of other people especially if they don't deserve to get a help since as I said they will not learn from their mistake if there's someone will always save their ass from the mess they enter.

There is an expression - "even a stick shoots once a year", so even the most irresponsible player can become very lucky. He doesn't have any brakes, he does things first and thinks later. Sometimes such people are the ones who achieve maximum success

I won’t bother to crowdfund for any gambler who has been irresponsible with his gambling habit. Someone who is into gambling should know the risks and most importantly, know that you should only use funds allocated for such purposes.
In a lot of cases, after crying out on social media seeking assistance and later being bailed out, that individual might later again go down the same path that initially led him to seek assistance from friends and strangers online having thoughts of being bailed out again if anything goes wrong again.

There are certain scenarios which I would willingly crowdfund for, but a gambler having knowingly and willingly spent funds not supposed to be spent, isn’t one of them.

I would hesitate to support a crowdfunding campaign if I knew that the person behind it had lost funds to gambling and that those funds were allocated for important things. Participating in such a campaign could mean that the person may use the funds for gambling activities again.

It is important to respect an individual's personal choices when they decide to donate to crowdfunding. But if I am familiar with the person, I may ask why they want to assist certain individuals. If the person still wishes to provide help, I will not interfere with their decision.

This happens only when one had fun and also created relationships of good memories around the very gambling tables and had gained a massive (huge) success through the means of same gambling else no one wants to share its peace of Penny cake or giving credits to others who doesn't acknowledge the source of your success.

Right from Time, I hope to believe that if gambling definitely proffers me such succeed, I think of funding (sponsoring) an annual competitions amongst the gamblers. This is strictly going to be free stakes amongst them as they gets on the gambling table while specific (s) positions in the winning roles are awarded basically accordingly.
Thought of doing this is to modify the emotion's of the gamblers hoping to frame a Common relationships with good memories amongst us all.

I will take such situations for humanity action and not about giving back to the gambling because such a giver could also give to ones else aside the gambling sections. However, such term is considered a friend who deserves help and had to be helped since I am opportuned to mostly especially as long he wasn't in need of it to stake on the gambling but I can bodily say that... If he is known for an addicted gambler then I am definitely turning away because such request being granted could be misused contrarily to the reasons  of his appeals.

He doesn't deserve to be supported there's no guarantee that he will not gamble the money, he is not a responsible and honorable person for gambling money that is not supposed to be spent for gambling, those who donate tolerate the guy for his being a chronic gambler.
What he needs is help on how to overcome his gambling addiction he doesn't know how to allocate money for gambling and for important expenses, this person will gamble any amount of money he gets hold of, while he is still addicted to gambling people close to him should not allow him to handle money.

Definitely a big NO! We are working hard for earning money and i dont see any valid reason for me to show up some support or trying out to crowdfund into those gamblers who do get addicted just because you are really
having some sympathy on them basing on the situation or condition that they are experiencing? It would really be totally out of your mind if you are really that trying out to help those people.FOr what?
You are really just that basically worsening up the situation on trying out to fund them. For what? reasons? Also if you are thinking about trying to help then you arent really that helping them
either so there's no point on doing such thing.

Who would really be on their right minds that would really be doing such action. Spending or donating money just to let someone to play even more? This isnt a solution
on resolving the issue.Unless if we do talk about some funding or showing support about rehabiliation or something speaking about gambling addiction counseling organization
then i might consider on making some donation but if its not then no thanks!

Exactly! Why would you waste your time funding an irresponsible gambler in the first place? I'm intrigued by this topic because for me, I won't let myself giving a support and provide financial assistance to a people who gamble because I've learned that when you want to do something like gambling or such things, you have to work hard and make sure you don't rely on others. That's your main responsibility and if you failed to do that, You just showed them that you don't deserve the help they'll give to you, besides I won't tolerate someone who have vices but can't provide for their habits.

If they realize that they are addicted to gambling, they should seek professional help who can help cure their gambling addiction. We cannot recommend help to them while they are still struggling with gambling because that only makes them think that we are there to help them if they have problems. That will not be good for gamblers because they will not realize that we want to help them recover from gambling addiction and not help them to gamble. They will only experience a worse gambling addiction and if that happens, we will be the ones experiencing difficulties and won't be able to help them.

Answer with that is a big NO if you help those irresponsible gambler then they can't learn a lesson for action they have done but instead, it will push them more to gamble because they know that there's a community would able to help them once he face another challenge in life. So to help those people its better for him to realize that what he did is so wrong so he need to change his attitude towards gambling so that he will not use those cash which is intended for other more important matter. Giving empathy cannot help them and they need to learn a lesson in a hard way so that they became more better person also could even realize for theirselves that they should not repeat those mistakes since they struggle so bad for taking wrong decisions.