Topic: Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly? - page 4. (Read 955 times)

If its my friend seeking for a help then why not? If this is the best way I can help him survive from that addiction and rise again then I will not hesitate to help as long as he is willing to help himself too. But if a gambler is just raising a funds to support his gambling addiction then totally not, its not good and I will never tolerate this kind of behavior. Gambling can be very risky and if you know someone is already suffering and seeking for a help, try to help him even on a smallest way because it can be a big help for him.

Also, there's no assurance that you would really be able to assure to those people do make use of the amount on the right way but rather we could really be able to assume that it would really be used back into gambling again and again. So there's no sense on trying out to help an addicted person when it comes to finances or simply having the money because it would really be just worsen up the situation just because they would really be continuing on playing as long they do have the funds. So there's no point and pretty sure that 100% no one will really be that minding on helping someone when it comes to financial approach
specially into an addicted person.

Everything that it is really happening to us would really be that depending or basing on the things that we have done. If you are really that irresponsible when it comes to
gambling activity and been spending like a mad man then expect on what are the consequences.

Why would I? I think it's given that people would be wary to that fellow and would never participate to such an obvious answer. He/she should be responsible enough to know that the world doesn't work that way especially if you just gamble the money that should be used for good purpose, you'll surely get criticism at all.

It is only due to sympathy that will make anyone to fund a gambler, maybe because he is a family member and they believe that he will no longer gamble with the money been given to him. Apart from that it might be very difficult to crowdfund a gambler.

Another reason that people might choose to crowdfund a gambler is if that gambler was generous with the funds during the time when he won big. Apart from the aforementioned, it will be difficult for people to crowdfund a gambler that they know is an irresponsible gambler because he will still use the money given to him to chase his losses.

too naive to still support the person right?  and you couldn't really trust the guy is he said this time that the funds generated from this crowdfund would be used right to what is intended.  he gambled away the money that was originally meant for something. there is no assurance he will not gamble again the money to chase the loss.

anyway, it's all up to him already. if someone still trusts him. then maybe he really is worth trusting. not me. i'm struggling myself.

There are people that have been crowdfunded for other reasons like out of love from people who love them. This people are already rich, but you get to see lots of people who are struggling to survive still donate their hard earned money to these people on celebrations like their birthdays, I find it foolish. These people can crowdfund anybody and anyone, they will not find it difficult if a popular gambler they love who has gambled irresponsibly ask for help in the form of financial supporters.

  Even if the purpose is excellent and the project is tied to gambling, crowdfunding does not appear to be a good idea in my perspective. I had already investigated here in the forum that there was financing in ICO projects during 2017.

  But I haven't seen anyone in the crypto area who has done a crowdfunding initiative involving or related to gaming. I don't appear to have discovered anything that is consistent with my investigation.

I have thought it that way that those who have been in such shoes are those that won't think twice to help crowdfund for him because they have tried it before either succeeded or failed so they understand how it is to lose monies meant for important and urgent stuff to gambling. But to go gambling, one should already understand that it is a risk in the first place, meaning you can lose all which is the case we have seen. To try doubling your marriage money or school fees in gambling is the height of irresponsible gambling.

Charity is one important thing people should participate and when we as individual always wanting to jeopardize that opportunity you would find out that some people stops giving why because they always sees as a means of survival. Then boils down to the next, well I will say I can't crowdfunds such people knowing too well that gambling is not what one should be trusted of because after becoming successful or let's say you wanna start distributing games to people those games giving out how sure are we is to play accordingly meanwhile there may be some people who would put a meaningful amount thinking it's a life changing game without knowing it won't go according to how it was planned.

There is no way that I'm helping out a degenerate gambler whom should have known better and not gotten themselves in a position where they literally need to crowd fund to help "stay afloat".  This is ridiculous.  The only way I MIGHT consider it is if it were a very close friend of mine or perhaps a relative.  Even then I would probably struggle to help them.  I just don't have a ton of sympathy.

You know, giving out is mind, not wealth. There are people that have money and win huge amounts of money in gambling but can’t help the needy, and we still have people that win small and help people around them, so therefore. I can say they also help because we have gamblers in my area, and up until now, if they win money in gambling, they help people financially. But not every time, though, and I can say that gamblers often help people financially.


Among all these things you mention, I will choose only two, which are school fees and house rent, because they are the most important things at that time since I would not like to see someone seeking help for his or her school fees. I have the money but can't help, and we are all students, so if I can, I will help him out to avoid dropping out of school. Some things happen that we didn’t expect to reach some extent, and this type of mistake is unavoidable. Sometimes, it can happen to anyone.
 
But for investments and the remaining ones, I will advise him to live them  at the moment until he has the money to do them. He should avoid gambling and look for another thing to do to earn money so that he can do the investment or marriage he wants to do.

Gambling is not something to start with or do with borrowed funds or money that is not yours, why would someone need to be crowdfunded for the sake of gambling. Worst case is that it is a case of a failed gambler, so there is no guarantee that the funds will not be lost again.

I will rather donate the money to charity than crowdfund a failed gambler.

Helping or giving a budget to gamblers is a ridiculous thing you  do if your goal is to help solve their problems, do you know that gambling addicts always want to gamble at all costs? and if you give them a budget it is like you give them a new breath to return to gambling and depend on luck. This is not a good way but what happens is that the gambler will get worse in his gambling involvement, if you really want to help them then you should be able to consider what their problem is, if their problem is gambling addiction then don't choose that way, it's the same as telling them to go back to gambling by lending them your money.

What you should do is find a way to help them in implementing any restrictions for the best that should be done to overcome the problem, as you said, you might be able to give some suggestions to them with reasonable statements that can at least make them realize that their activity is very severe and only causes  a lot of problems. And also other things maybe you can suggest them to do meditation or go to a rehabilitation place to restore their mindset and common sense.

Handing out financial help to an addict is quite inadmissible. He'll go back to where he stopped, and waste the money. How is he going to fund back the money, to the lender? I think the person who deserves such help, could be a new gambler, with less experience. If he shares a polite, moral and logical true story, explaining how he got carried away. Then, people can help out, especially, when he's a modest person, looking to begin a fresh habit in gambling. The right thing is your suggestion. Endeavor he doesn't get it directly. As we can't for sure determine his level of inattentiveness in becoming a changed person, or whether he's being swayed by somebody else. And he's got the begging idea to deceive people. Unless his loss dropped him in an inconsolable situation, the player wouldn't deserve any direct help at the moment. Therefore, those who are in the disposal of helping, should be careful with their decision. Because, if neglected because of the multiple factors that qualifies the gambler to be lying. It could be an expensive mistake on the helpers end, broken, immature players are very vulnerable. And could harm themselves, from the thoughts of losing out all they've got in gambling. Many times, when people are genuinely interested in changing through their mistakes, they're being judged by the actions of others who were in similar problem in the past. And we end up regretting our hard decision on the person. By not helping them, I think once we're sure he is sincere, and promises to pay back, he should be helped.

I often see crowdfunding, this kind of practice occurs in projects, businesses, investments and so on, but I rarely see it, this kind of funding practice can occur in gambling both locally and internationally.

For me I don't know what to say about Crowdfunding policy, if I do it, even though it is something that people want to do online all over the world.

Maybe to raise funds there are other alternatives besides Crowdfunding, which are wiser, although I don't know whether Crowdfunding exists or not, the point is that gambling is risky, it's better to use your own money, it might be more overall.

Maybe, if I knew the guy but no for stranger from the internet.
Perhaps not a crowfunding but a donation to be precisely.

Any crowfunding with that reason shall be failed from the beginning.

That should be a big no as an answer as you don't know what such gambler will do with the amount of money you crowdfund him,if he has been irresponsible before chances are very high he will continue to do so unless he learns a very hard lesson in the hardest of ways.

I would have no empathy in this case as this gambler has surpassed the limit of where my empathy goes,if someone would have lost a huge amount of money trying to achieve a specific thing without an irresponsible behavior I would gladly crowdfund him with what I can afford to crowdfund him,this person is honest at least and has not done things like the above.

Definitely not. By donating to this fellow gambler that didn’t manage well his finances was you are just allowing him or support him to his poor financial management. He should think carefully about his needs before he start betting his money away without any extra funds available on his wallet to cover his emergency fund.

The only time I might consider donating is when he encounter an accident which his gambling is not sufficient to cover the fee. Not because he lose it all to gambling but rather the unforeseen expenses is too huge to cover by all of his fund. I believe that sometimes there’s an emergency that is greater than what we can handle. This is the time which I can help .

I wouldn't be interested in doing the crowdfunding for him since he didn't make a mistake or scammed out of his money but he gambled it away in all his senses possibly out of greed and he deserved to learn his lesson. However, if I feel that he is extremely ashamed of what he did and in severe need of funds, I might do it but only on one condition, that the funds will not be in his possession and will go directly to the cause that he is worried about because I wouldn't trust him to do it if he has the funds and can gamble them away as well.

I have seen a lot of such cases where people lost money that was supposed to be used for something important in gambling only because they thought they could make more money with it and then keep the extra money and use the actual amount for what it was for and lost the money and then regretted it badly.

Giving money to people who need it can at least help lighten their burden and give them hope to keep trying. But if we provide help to people who are addicted to gambling, it doesn't seem worth it, but maybe if the money can help cure their gambling addiction, it's still worth it because it's for the sake of curing their gambling addiction. They also don't need to think about medical costs for the therapies they have to do because there is already assistance to pay the costs.

It would be more appropriate to give besides helping people who really need help because the money can be distributed to those who need it. So instead of giving the money to those who gamble, which will only add to their problems, we should give it to those who need it more, especially those who still have difficulty buying their daily necessities.