Topic: Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly? - page 7. (Read 955 times)

If you divide the winnings among the gaming community, they won't understand its worth, and some may even squander the money for more gambling rather than saving it for something worthwhile since they want to win too. Giving the money to those you believe need it—friends and family in particular—is the wiser course of action, as you mentioned. They'll even be grateful for what you've done for them. It's a fact that some people will spend their money on material goods, while others may spend it on things that have no real value. And their are people that they will so use the money well that when you see them you will be impressed with how they spent their money. And if we understand anybody life style we should know what they are capable of doing. So that you don't give and you them spending the money on drugs or something even worst you won't be happy at all.

Some of them might even perceive you as an incentive to gamble more, just to see whether they will follow suit. That's my constant issue with addicts. They see that nearly everything is motivating. And some of them even function, but they are not a clear solution. It is better to seek professional assistance as soon as it is determined that addiction is the issue. Their are addictions that are worst than gambling the best that can be done if any is noticed then they should recommend help for them. Because addictions like drugs are serious addictions that affect both the victims finance and health.

No way, I don't even consider such an act to be serious because the individual is clearly incompetent in managing their funds so what if he just gambles again with the raised funds?

But the situation will be different if the affected party seek the public help and also need financial support to cover the loss made from irresponsible behaviour of someone then its possible that people will consider giving them help in someway.

No. This will only make gamblers feel that they will be helped to meet their living needs while they can still gamble as usual. They may be even more irresponsible in their gambling because they are calm to see that there is crowdfunding that will help them. But if crowdfunding is intended to help problem gamblers cure gambling addiction, for example, maybe crowdfunding can work well. Maybe there are still people who care about others, especially those who experience gambling addiction problems, so from crowdfunding, they can use the funds to help the healing process of people who are addicted to gambling.

Some have a lot and waste it and others don't have it and need it, addicts sometimes have to hit rock bottom to come to their senses.

example:

I am going to install fiber optics for the first time (I have 1mb/s), the price is $170 for the installation (blessed third world country), I have $40.
 
Will I bet that $40?

I won't do it, because being needy makes people value what we have more.


Now, if a friend is addicted, I would give it to them, and I would tell them to try to get away from it, and to seek professional help, whether they lose or win.

There are friendships that are worth more than money.

Personaly, I wouldn't share a received prize with gambling community. I think it's a better idea to donate portions of the money to people in need close to me who I know their realities, so I can see if they are using the donated money wisely for their personal growment, or if they are just wasting it on addictions or worthless stuff. There are many people seeking for an opportunity through a helping hand, so they can change their lives, and I think it's on this kind of people that we should to focus our efforts, instead of sponsoring addictive and irresponsible behaviors from individuals who can't manage their finances properly.

Not that these people shouldn't be helped and supported as well, but the approach must be different.

I would have nothing to say to those that choose to donate their money to someone like that as they know way better than myself what they do with their money.

However I would never do this as I feel that I will be enabling bad behavior, going through difficult times after acting irresponsibly is not the end of the world, and in fact it could help a person realize they have been doing something incorrect and change their ways, and we know this is true as there are many people that after getting arrested and staying on jail for a time claim this is the best thing it could happen to them, as it allowed them to see they were going through the wrong path and change their lives.

maybe no.
gambling is not a place to raise funds like investment or other types of profit, whereas gambling is just a place to have fun trying your luck and if we fund other gamblers that is something that is not worth it for me because we gamble to please ourselves and if we fund other gamblers that is just like giving pleasure to other people and if we fund other gamblers or other communities just for the purpose of making a profit it is already breaking the rules of gamblers enjoyment.

but there are some people who give funds to the gambling community but to games that do not rely on luck but to the community of gamblers who play only poker games that rely more on skill than luck. so its worth giving a little money to get profits from professional poker gamblers.

Isn't it contradictory though? I mean we all know how gambling is, it can really ruined someone's life specially if they become addicted and can't control themselves and uses the money or funds that is allotted for other important things as you have describe.

Not that I don't want to help someone, but if you really wanted to help it should not be in this case. And this could be another excuse for gamblers to continue with what they are doing. Because at the back of their minds, they might think that they can escape with it is they will or someone in their behalf, will do crowdfund for the money that they have irresponsibly lost to gambling.

I don't mind sharing my gambling wins. I mean, isn't that a very natural reaction after having a nice gambling run? I've always been doing that.

However, I don't think it's worth contributing to a crowdfund of somebody who badly needs money because he/she gambled what was supposed to be spent for important expenses. To those who are willing to donate, I don't have a problem. It's their money. They're free to do whatever they want with their money. But, for me, I think that isn't a good practice so I wouldn't do that.

Hell no… Why would you crowdfund for an irresponsible gambler? Thats like giving a crackhead a bunch of crack and then feeling good about yourself because this time they’re not going to smoke it all and buy more, they’re going to use it to ween themselves off crack. This is a sub-80 IQ line of thinking you’d only hear from a Biden voter.

I also have to say no when it comes to crowdfunding a fellow gambler who made a mistake while gambling and the money he receives through crowdfunding might encourage him to do it again since it's not his hard-earned money. If the money is handled by someone else so he can't gamble it away, then maybe others would also change their mind. Then again, I agree with the other posts above because helping someone financially is only a temporary fix to his problem when the real problem is the person's bad decision-making.

  Nowadays, it's hard for people to believe what you say. If it's a project that they start with crowdfunding, a lot of people don't trust and believe what you're saying. In short, it's not realistic for it to happen.

  Then why did you think of such a situation? Is there anyone who wants to help gamblers, and in order to do this, you will go through crowdfunding? Is that what you mean, so you went through asking questions here in the forum to see how the community members will respond here?

No I would not invest in a person that has the habit of embezzling fund and gamble it irresponsibly.  In the given case, it is stated that they had done it many times before, so it won't be surprising if they embezzle the fund for crowdfunding and gamble it irresponsibly.


I would not say a single word, it is their decision and these people use their own money so I have no right whatsoever to comment on their decision.

Not empathy, but based on his skill.
I have been trying to get a slot of funding for my friend who is good at poker, he does this not because he is broke but because he wants to share the wins and the losses. I talked to him personally about when I could get a slot and he said he would try to get me a reservation because there are already patrons who are always investing in his skill.
100 could become 300 or it will depend on how much the pot will be and it's a tournament so it might take a whole day before the investors will get the results.
I will not fund just anyone. For me, I'd rather pick the gamblers who are my real friends and invest with them especially those who have proof that they can really win games like poker tournaments.
It's easy to see those who are gambling irresponsibly. They are broke most of the time and trusting them with your money might not be a wise idea not because they will try to steal it but because they might not be in the right condition to win their preferred games with their stressed minds.

but the money that he will get from crowdfunding should not be use again in gambling. why not use it directly to the expenses he need to pay? it may not be sufficient but at least lessen some burden. because if you will bet it again to your games, high probability that you will lose it all again. maybe, ill support the crowdfunding process if it won't go back to his gambling. but if you will fund his gambling, then i guess no.

No, definitely not. It's common sense. Why would you give money to someone that you know he will lose, especially if you know that he is an irresponsible gambler? Only those fortunate may, but it's still not right to tolerate his action and irresponsibility. If someone does that, then he will keep on doing what is wrong, and in fact, it will make him more irresponsible as he knows that someone could fund his gambling out of empathy. I will never ever have empathy for someone who is irresponsible with the money that he doesn't own. Like may others reacted, of course I'm not crazy to give out my own money, thinking that it will eventually lose, and gambling itself is risky. Added to irresponsible gamblers, there's no way I will give money to a person like that, and I'm sure no one else will also participate in that, so that could crowdfund funding.

No, crowdfunding for anyone who exhibits risky behavior beyond a certain threshold is a very bad idea.

When you gather crowd investments for someone else, you are vouching for them with your name. If they do something bad, such as misuse the gathered funds, then you will be the one who is blamed by a literal crowd of people. Why would you subject yourself to that kind of risk if you believe the person behind the project to be untrustworthy?

But then again it depends on the person and how risky you find them to be. I would not paint all gamblers as untrustworthy people.

Nah. My man probably spent said money he was supposed to use for said project or whatever into gambling and is now appealing pity to the internet so that he can recoup it back. Personally, that's my opinion. As for what others think? I don't really give a damn. Spending money in gambling that is supposed to be for something else that is important is something I can't really empathize with. After all, said money was most likely not even from them, it probably came about with the help of a few others so really, it's not just him affected, it was others as well. And even if it was him only, then again, I still don't see any reason to help someone making dumb decisions over the internet.

when a person takes money that was intended to pay bills and that person takes that money to play in a casino and then loses all the money, then we are dealing with a person who is addicted to gambling and in this case you cannot give money to the gambling addict , if he says he needs money to pay bills, then don't give him money, just pay his bills directly, that is, tell him to go with you to pay his bills and then take him to a psychologist for urgent treatment, As long as the psychologist does not cure the patient, then they should not give him money, because this will only worsen his mental health condition. people often ignore certain signs

I'm talking about signs like taking money that would be used to pay bills and taking it to play or even taking it out to drink beer, then people think that this is normal, they think that these are things that after some time the person heals on their own, when in reality we are faced with a disease, we are faced with addiction, and to cure the addiction it is necessary to consult the doctor and comply with all the treatment he recommends, the person should not be a person with too much pride and forget that being cured also helps with what the person can live in society, it helps to get back into employment

Thank you mate, it's as simple as you have explained it because no gambler that posses that kind of attributes should be let to continue in gambling, let alone be crowd funded. Every irresponsible gambler needs help although gambling addicts dont normally take advice from person and only them can be of help to their own crazy habits because if their is no willingness to stop it then the gambler doesn't need a thing like what crowdfunding because it's a total waist of funds.