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Topic: [XCR] Crypti | Dapps | Sidechains | Dapp Store | OPEN SOURCE | 100% own code | DPoS - page 8. (Read 804605 times)

newbie
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Who has the skills to make a snapshot of balances excluding the 80 million coins and fork Crypti off to a new Genesis?


Crypti Top Accounts - https://cryptichain.lisk.io/topAccounts

TOP7 Crypti Accounts

..............Address.......................................Amount .................................Total % .................................Notes .................................Link ...................
11895248518193822011C55,013,892 XCR55.01%Lisk ICOhttps://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/11895248518193822011C
11032798712936002952C25,728,806 XCR25.73%Lisk ICOhttps://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/11032798712936002952C
1064014217195323888C9,577,731 XCR9.58%Poloniex.com https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/1064014217195323888C
983470101446368718C4,459,507 XCR4.46%Bter.comhttps://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/983470101446368718C
5187059935254926083C1,004,568 XCR1%user1
13301325309114698830C586,994 XCR0.59%user2
3946744674132627468C430,510 XCR0.43%user3


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no i mean start a new blockchain with all coins but the ones in Lisk ICO accounts.

You need to add few lines of code (and upload to github) - block to send/receive XCR from two Lisk ICO addresses - 11895248518193822011C and 11032798712936002952C

You can speak with Boris Povod (crypti developer) -  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/crypti-336778


Lisk team (2 lisk developers) owns 80.74% crypti. It is bad - fully crypti centralization and they can easy crypti price manipulate.

I agree with you, only one correct way exists - block or burn all 80,000,000 crypti from lisk ICO.

Crypti should have own way without Lisk team involvement.

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sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
Who has the skills to make a snapshot of balances excluding the 80 million coins and fork Crypti off to a new Genesis?


Crypti Top Accounts - https://cryptichain.lisk.io/topAccounts

TOP7 Crypti Accounts

..............Address.......................................Amount .................................Total % .................................Notes .................................Link ...................
11895248518193822011C55,013,892 XCR55.01%Lisk ICOhttps://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/11895248518193822011C
11032798712936002952C25,728,806 XCR25.73%Lisk ICOhttps://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/11032798712936002952C
1064014217195323888C9,577,731 XCR9.58%Poloniex.com https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/1064014217195323888C
983470101446368718C4,459,507 XCR4.46%Bter.comhttps://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/983470101446368718C
5187059935254926083C1,004,568 XCR1%user1
13301325309114698830C586,994 XCR0.59%user2
3946744674132627468C430,510 XCR0.43%user3


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no i mean start a new blockchain with all coins but the ones in Lisk ICO accounts.
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
Who has the skills to make a snapshot of balances excluding the 80 million coins and fork Crypti off to a new Genesis?


Crypti Top Accounts - https://cryptichain.lisk.io/topAccounts

TOP7 Crypti Accounts

..............Address.......................................Amount .................................Total % .................................Notes .................................Link ...................
11895248518193822011C55,013,892 XCR55.01%Lisk ICOhttps://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/11895248518193822011C
11032798712936002952C25,728,806 XCR25.73%Lisk ICOhttps://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/11032798712936002952C
1064014217195323888C9,577,731 XCR9.58%Poloniex.com https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/1064014217195323888C
983470101446368718C4,459,507 XCR4.46%Bter.comhttps://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/983470101446368718C
5187059935254926083C1,004,568 XCR1%user1
13301325309114698830C586,994 XCR0.59%user2
3946744674132627468C430,510 XCR0.43%user3


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sr. member
Activity: 398
Merit: 250
Who has the skills to make a snapshot of balances excluding the 80 million coins and fork Crypti off to a new Genesis?

Here you've got 4.5
https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/983470101446368718C
sr. member
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Who has the skills to make a snapshot of balances excluding the 80 million coins and fork Crypti off to a new Genesis?
sr. member
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Merit: 250

Why is that? the current platform can ran forever, in case of development no need as i can see the develop further..put all forces to Lisk
sr. member
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If they burn their 80% stake, crypti can still go on.

It would be fair. We'll see.
Crypti still needs some devs to take them forward.
sr. member
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If they burn their 80% stake, crypti can still go on.

It would be fair. We'll see.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
There isn't really a Crypti team anymore. The majority of efforts transitioned to Lisk and with the huge success of their IPO, I imagine anyone who loved Crypti went with them. Boris, as you know, is now with them. As I said before, Crypti cannot die. It's an open source crypto like any other. If you run nodes and keep the network running, it continues to exist.

I see a couple main problems with this direction.

1. Max and Oliver hold 80% or something crazy like that of the XCR in circulation.

2. There is no development team focused on continuing to develop and push the project, as well as no funds to pay anyone to do so.

However, I will say this. The success of the Lisk ICO shows that people believe in the core technology we built here at Crypti, it simply never got the buzz or backing and people knew we were almost out of money for development. There is a huge opportunity here for some enterprising developers.

If you know a developer who is good and can understand the source code of Lisk, you could pull back all updates they have made (as Lisk is required to be open source based on the Crypti license they used to take the Crypti Source Code). Any updates they put out to the core source will also be open source. These can all be pulled back into Crypti to keep pace with any developments they make if someone simply steps in and takes over to lead a new more organized Foundation and development effort.

On top of that, you could potentially build side chains / Dapps that would work on Crypti, and could also be implemented into Lisk for additional profit.

The real sticking point is that 80% that Max and Oliver hold. I have no idea what their intentions are but it's highly possible they will hold it as an insurance policy that the Crypti network doesn't rise up to compete.

Hell, if you want to make a go at it, ask them to put all 80 million XCR in a faucet, or have people register to receive free XCR, or some kind of giveaway of XCR for joining a Lisk mailing list or something. If they view it as useless (which they should, they have ass tons of money at this point), then maybe you'll get lucky.

Sorry no one has been around. After everything that went down, I walked away for a little bit to catch my breath. For what it's worth, I am in no way affiliated with Lisk, although I do wish them the best. We spent a lot of time working with those guys and they mean well, are good people, and I know for 100% fact they will do their best to make it a success. Trust me that Lisk will not be some kind of fly by night operation. They will work their asses off to continue to push the envelope and Lisk may well end up being more fully featured than Eth when all is said and done.
If they burn their 80% stake, crypti can still go on.
sr. member
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2. There is no development team focused on continuing to develop and push the project, as well as no funds to pay anyone to do so.



How? How much is in the Foundation wallet? You only need to somehow override LISK ICO part and these coin will fly with devs. Maybe you can build  something similar to IOTA and ask from left community to support Foundation with 10% of their stake. I will gladly send to Foundation  10% of my (Crypti) coins if the development will continue.
sr. member
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So basically wa are all idiots here. Than you GreXX, and thank you Boris. If that is true why don't they buy all Crypti and turn the network off. With 80% in their possession Crypti can't have his own life.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
There isn't really a Crypti team anymore. The majority of efforts transitioned to Lisk and with the huge success of their IPO, I imagine anyone who loved Crypti went with them. Boris, as you know, is now with them. As I said before, Crypti cannot die. It's an open source crypto like any other. If you run nodes and keep the network running, it continues to exist.

I see a couple main problems with this direction.

1. Max and Oliver hold 80% or something crazy like that of the XCR in circulation.

2. There is no development team focused on continuing to develop and push the project, as well as no funds to pay anyone to do so.

However, I will say this. The success of the Lisk ICO shows that people believe in the core technology we built here at Crypti, it simply never got the buzz or backing and people knew we were almost out of money for development. There is a huge opportunity here for some enterprising developers.

If you know a developer who is good and can understand the source code of Lisk, you could pull back all updates they have made (as Lisk is required to be open source based on the Crypti license they used to take the Crypti Source Code). Any updates they put out to the core source will also be open source. These can all be pulled back into Crypti to keep pace with any developments they make if someone simply steps in and takes over to lead a new more organized Foundation and development effort.

On top of that, you could potentially build side chains / Dapps that would work on Crypti, and could also be implemented into Lisk for additional profit.

The real sticking point is that 80% that Max and Oliver hold. I have no idea what their intentions are but it's highly possible they will hold it as an insurance policy that the Crypti network doesn't rise up to compete.

Hell, if you want to make a go at it, ask them to put all 80 million XCR in a faucet, or have people register to receive free XCR, or some kind of giveaway of XCR for joining a Lisk mailing list or something. If they view it as useless (which they should, they have ass tons of money at this point), then maybe you'll get lucky.

Sorry no one has been around. After everything that went down, I walked away for a little bit to catch my breath. For what it's worth, I am in no way affiliated with Lisk, although I do wish them the best. We spent a lot of time working with those guys and they mean well, are good people, and I know for 100% fact they will do their best to make it a success. Trust me that Lisk will not be some kind of fly by night operation. They will work their asses off to continue to push the envelope and Lisk may well end up being more fully featured than Eth when all is said and done.
sr. member
Activity: 398
Merit: 250
Without development this will eventually die.....shame
full member
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Realize one thing: the XCR in the Lisk ICO fund can only be of value for the Lisk team if somehow XCR keeps value. That's an incentive for the Lisk team to keep supporting XCR. And because they can't just dump 80% of the XCR at once without disturbing the market and losing value, they will have to support XCR for a long period.

In other words: if Lisk drops XCR, their ICO stake of XCR would become worthless.

That's one of the reasons I took a gamble and bought up some XCR.

Totally agree . lisk is worthless if XCR value is dropped at once


Even if XCR will be worthless, your'e forgetting the 13k btc they did recieve.

The total XCR's are worth less than 7% of lisks entire fortune.
sr. member
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Should I keep my XCR in the long term or better to sale now?

Why did you buy? If you can't answer that question, sell now.

Crypti Massacre...
legendary
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Waves | 3PHMaGNeTJfqFfD4xuctgKdoxLX188QM8na
Should I keep my XCR in the long term or better to sale now?

Why did you buy? If you can't answer that question, sell now.
sr. member
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Merit: 254
So far so good
Should I keep my XCR in the long term or better to sale now?
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 500
Realize one thing: the XCR in the Lisk ICO fund can only be of value for the Lisk team if somehow XCR keeps value. That's an incentive for the Lisk team to keep supporting XCR. And because they can't just dump 80% of the XCR at once without disturbing the market and losing value, they will have to support XCR for a long period.

In other words: if Lisk drops XCR, their ICO stake of XCR would become worthless.

That's one of the reasons I took a gamble and bought up some XCR.

Totally agree . lisk is worthless if XCR value is dropped at once
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1002
Waves | 3PHMaGNeTJfqFfD4xuctgKdoxLX188QM8na
Realize one thing: the XCR in the Lisk ICO fund can only be of value for the Lisk team if somehow XCR keeps value. That's an incentive for the Lisk team to keep supporting XCR. And because they can't just dump 80% of the XCR at once without disturbing the market and losing value, they will have to support XCR for a long period.

In other words: if Lisk drops XCR, their ICO stake of XCR would become worthless.

That's one of the reasons I took a gamble and bought up some XCR.
sr. member
Activity: 249
Merit: 250


18th April 2016 remains?

What are your plans with all that XCR?


Yes, the 18th April is still valid. We will announce our plans for the XCR after that date.




Anybody from Crypti here? Don't you think that you need announce something before 18th April.


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