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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1516. (Read 4670972 times)

legendary
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Must... control... self... Must... not... go... on... off... topic... rant...

So how about monero lately. Glad to see the price starting to rise. Still so much more to go Grin

100$ with 6 months. Against that time BTC will be 1500/2000$


We need to have a 100 dollar party if that happens. Like the bitcoin 1000 dollar party.
legendary
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Must... control... self... Must... not... go... on... off... topic... rant...

So how about monero lately. Glad to see the price starting to rise. Still so much more to go Grin

100$ with 6 months. Against that time BTC will be 1500/2000$

legendary
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Not sure if this has been discussed, but what would be the hashrate of the top supercomputers?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianhe-2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_%28supercomputer%29

Is it fair to say network needs to be strong than a couple of these for a truly secure network?

The first one lists at 17 MW. At 3 h/W, that is 5.7 Mh. Our network is currently 27 Mh...



hash/W or W/hash? would be 51Mh ..

Correction noted above
hero member
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Monero Core Team
Yeah ! Another debate between leftist and libertarian on bitcointalk, the last was so useful...
I'd say either "leftist" and "rightist" or "interventionists" and "libertarians". I prefer symmetry in wording.

I created a new thread to not pollute this one: Libertarianism and interventionnism. I won't answer on this topic here.
legendary
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Must... control... self... Must... not... go... on... off... topic... rant...

So how about monero lately. Glad to see the price starting to rise. Still so much more to go Grin
sr. member
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Not sure if this has been discussed, but what would be the hashrate of the top supercomputers?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianhe-2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_%28supercomputer%29

Is it fair to say network needs to be strong than a couple of these for a truly secure network?

The first one lists at 17 MW. At 3 h/W, that is 5.7 Mh. Our network is currently 27 Mh...



hash/W or W/hash? would be 51Mh ..
sr. member
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Because a thread should be made, but OP's not going to do it.  Somebody else should do it.

Yeah ! Another debate between leftist and libertarian on bitcointalk, the last was so useful...
legendary
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This is so sad. The level of brainwashing the government puts people through to get them to believe this nonsense is terrifying. I'm not going to get into debunking this here though, this is not the place for it. If you want make a thread and invite me to it.

Because a thread should be made, but OP's not going to do it.  Somebody else should do it.

donator
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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
Has anyone successfully compiled bitmonerd/simplewallet on Arch ?

- Executing binaires just gives me: "core dumped"

- Trying to compile is a hell: first the script wants to execure "sudo apt get install" for the boost 1.55 ?!?! Probably doesn't get that I already have it. Then it gets stucked on "No CMAKE_C_COMPILER could be found". I have all base-devel installed.



Have you got gcc 4.9+ installed?

Hi ff, thanks for replying. I run chakra linux which is kde arch basically. 64bits.

Kernel 3.15.5-1
gcc 4.9.0.8
cmake 3.0.0.1
make 3.82
boost 1.55

Try 'pacman -S base-devel' - for some reason CMake isn't finding your GCC at all.
legendary
Activity: 2968
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Not sure if this has been discussed, but what would be the hashrate of the top supercomputers?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianhe-2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_%28supercomputer%29

Is it fair to say network needs to be strong than a couple of these for a truly secure network?

The first one lists at 17 MW. At 3 h/W, that is 51 Mh. Our network is currently 27 Mh so we aren't there yet.

EDIT: thank you superplus for the arithmetic correction.
member
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Not sure if this has been discussed, but what would be the hashrate of the top supercomputers?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianhe-2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_%28supercomputer%29

Is it fair to say network needs to be strong than a couple of these for a truly secure network?
legendary
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I pay taxes because I want children to be educated, hospital to work, road to be in working state, science to progress
Yea because there is no way any of those things would happen without armed maniacs in blue costumes running around taking peoples stuff. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

To be honest, there is no way those things would happen without a government. Companies are only involved in things in which they can reap sustainable profit. That's why there are so few private schools compared to public(government owned) schools.

If we left it up to companies and our fellow brethen to do things like build roads, builds schools, build hosptials etc, then nothing would get done because in our capitalistic society(frankly any type of society as well), people are motivated by Money and greed, with all companies trying to gain the highest amount of profit at the cost of others( look at wal-mart outsourcing jobs to sweatjobs in china, same with apple etc etc)

That's why we need a government to do the things that no one else will, and I'm very thankful for having one that does so.(the u.s gov)

This is so sad. The level of brainwashing the government puts people through to get them to believe this nonsense is terrifying. I'm not going to get into debunking this here though, this is not the place for it. If you want make a thread and invite me to it.
sr. member
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Who cares?
I thought this was a thread about monero.
legendary
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Maybe without government education would be different, but there would be education. state owned school are something very new in history but there was always skilled people to do skilled job...
And without government people wouldn't stay home and die cause road will disappear, they would find a way...

I understand better English than i write it sorry.

 All states have their own "government" or centralized authority, so that still counts as a government in a way.

As for there would be education, skilled people doing skilled job, No, there wouldn', for most of history there has been leadership between peoples, since the start of civilization. Not having such leadership would bring people literally back to the stone age, as I've shown, people are greedy and selfish. Without a government, most of the things many people rely on in life(40% of americans rely on medicare, most children rely on public schools etc etc) would not exist.

You have shown no such thing. You have just said something that is contrary to everything we know about how humans act.

The only thing you shown here is how the government makes people rely on them by forcing all other alternatives out of the market and then having their slaves salute it as a good thing.

Your statements are so anti-human its sad.
hero member
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I pay taxes because I want children to be educated, hospital to work, road to be in working state, science to progress
Yea because there is no way any of those things would happen without armed maniacs in blue costumes running around taking peoples stuff. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

To be honest, there is no way those things would happen without a government. Companies are only involved in things in which they can reap sustainable profit. That's why there are so few private schools compared to public(government owned) schools.

If we left it up to companies and our fellow brethen to do things like build roads, builds schools, build hospitals etc, then nothing would get done because in our capitalistic society(frankly any type of society as well), people are motivated by Money and greed, with all companies trying to gain the highest amount of profit at the cost of others( look at wal-mart outsourcing jobs to sweatjobs in china, same with apple etc etc)

That's why we need a government to do the things that no one else will, and I'm very thankful for having one that does so.(the u.s gov)

This is so out of line with reality that it's ridiculous.

You are taking socialist/nationalistic policies that result in outsourcing and use them to criticize free enterprise. The very fact that people are motivated by "greed" (in fact, everyone is motivated by the same thing. Self-maximization according to their incentives.) is the very reason anything is built, with or without a government.
It's just that when it's done in a free society it's built according to the needs of the clients who use it, no according to the needs of the politicians who want votes.

Ok go watch a documentary on a capitalistic society. You're saying that people will just go ahead and make schools, hostpitals, etc, out of their own pocket just for the good of humanity? Don't make me laugh....Your post makes no sense..

Does Wal-Mart outsource jobs to sweatshops in China for the good of the people?
Does all the other high profile companies outsource their jobs to cheap labor in India and China for the good of the people too?


hero member
Activity: 770
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Maybe without government education would be different, but there would be education. state owned school are something very new in history but there was always skilled people to do skilled job...
And without government people wouldn't stay home and die cause road will disappear, they would find a way...

I understand better English than i write it sorry.

 All states have their own "government" or centralized authority, so that still counts as a government in a way.

As for there would be education, skilled people doing skilled job, No, there wouldn', for most of history there has been leadership between peoples, since the start of civilization. Not having such leadership would bring people literally back to the stone age, as I've shown, people are greedy and selfish. Without a government, most of the things many people rely on in life(40% of americans rely on medicare, most children rely on public schools etc etc) would not exist.
legendary
Activity: 930
Merit: 1010
I pay taxes because I want children to be educated, hospital to work, road to be in working state, science to progress
Yea because there is no way any of those things would happen without armed maniacs in blue costumes running around taking peoples stuff. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

To be honest, there is no way those things would happen without a government. Companies are only involved in things in which they can reap sustainable profit. That's why there are so few private schools compared to public(government owned) schools.

If we left it up to companies and our fellow brethen to do things like build roads, builds schools, build hosptials etc, then nothing would get done because in our capitalistic society(frankly any type of society as well), people are motivated by Money and greed, with all companies trying to gain the highest amount of profit at the cost of others( look at wal-mart outsourcing jobs to sweatjobs in china, same with apple etc etc)

That's why we need a government to do the things that no one else will, and I'm very thankful for having one that does so.(the u.s gov)

This is so out of line with reality that it's ridiculous.

You are taking socialist/nationalistic policies that result in outsourcing and use them to criticize free enterprise. The very fact that people are motivated by "greed" (in fact, everyone is motivated by the same thing. Self-maximization according to their incentives.) is the very reason anything is built, with or without a government.
It's just that when it's done in a free society it's built according to the needs of the clients who use it, no according to the needs of the politicians who want votes.
sr. member
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Maybe without government education would be different, but there would be education. state owned school are something very new in history but there was always skilled people to do skilled job...
And without government people wouldn't stay home and die cause road will disappear, they would find a way...

I understand better English than i write it sorry.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
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If you want fast profit Monero is not for you. There are coins that goes up and down for 100% in a day. Monero will never have this. Monero is long term investment. Buy now and forget about it for 2 years.

But since other coins give you chance to earn fast, they also give you chance to lose fast. So be carefull.


Roll Eyes
hero member
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I pay taxes because I want children to be educated, hospital to work, road to be in working state, science to progress
Yea because there is no way any of those things would happen without armed maniacs in blue costumes running around taking peoples stuff. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

To be honest, there is no way those things would happen without a government. Companies are only involved in things in which they can reap sustainable profit. That's why there are so few private schools compared to public(government owned) schools.

If we left it up to companies and our fellow brethen to do things like build roads, builds schools, build hosptials etc, then nothing would get done because in our capitalistic society(frankly any type of society as well), people are motivated by Money and greed, with all companies trying to gain the highest amount of profit at the cost of others( look at wal-mart outsourcing jobs to sweatjobs in china, same with apple etc etc)

That's why we need a government to do the things that no one else will, and I'm very thankful for having one that does so.(the u.s gov)
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