Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1517. (Read 4670972 times)
August 30, 2014, 11:05:10 AM
August 30, 2014, 10:54:57 AM
You are not a citizen by choice. Citizenship is a form of slavery that says we own your body for being born in a certain geographical area.
Yep, we're all just "bits" of DNA, traveling down one long, hierarchical blockchain that dates all the way back to the Genesis block of humanity (or life itself).
August 30, 2014, 10:52:20 AM
I pay taxes because I want children to be educated, hospital to work, road to be in working state, science to progress
Yea because there is no way any of those things would happen without armed maniacs in blue costumes running around taking peoples stuff. 
August 30, 2014, 10:20:44 AM
This looks like fear of the long arm of the law to me. It is understandable for an individual, but not for a citizen.
I pay taxes because I want children to be educated, hospital to work, road to be in working state, science to progress (and the fact that individual corporations can achieve it concurrently is not enough of an argument for me).
I pay taxes because I want children to be educated, hospital to work, road to be in working state, science to progress (and the fact that individual corporations can achieve it concurrently is not enough of an argument for me).
You are not a citizen by choice. Citizenship is a form of slavery that says we own your body for being born in a certain geographical area.
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I believe in society, even if I agree that inefficiency and outright corruption plague the world.
What do you mean.. you believe? Like in a god that you want others to be forced to sacrifice to?
EVERYONE wants a social situation where they can function as human being. Taxation is not a necessity for this Quite the contrary. To introduce violence and coercion to system ruins it for every honest player.
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One shall not pay taxes because he is afraid of getting caught. One shall pay taxes because he believes in the project called society. To make a conceit, I'd say the fundamentals are strong, even if the implementation leaves an awful lot to be desired. I really believe that a nation could use a cryptocurrency as its main tool, even an anonymous one like Monero.
Then it's not taxes. Paying for services you use or want others to use with your money is just normal commerce. No need for adding guns to the equaiton.
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People are complaining about greedy bastards and selfish miners, but what is paying taxes lest being caught? Not that different. Now, I agree that one shall have the right to refuse (and thus leave society) and this is hard to the point of being practically impossible at the moment (international waters or outer space, anyone?).
The differnce is that taxpayers support the system where "greedy" miners are kidnapped and/or killed if they resist forcefully giving away their profit.
August 30, 2014, 10:15:07 AM
XMR value surpassed Darkcoin.
Seems like investors really lost trust in it.
Seems like investors really lost trust in it.
August 30, 2014, 10:11:44 AM
Has anyone successfully compiled bitmonerd/simplewallet on Arch ?
- Executing binaires just gives me: "core dumped"
- Trying to compile is a hell: first the script wants to execure "sudo apt get install" for the boost 1.55 ?!?! Probably doesn't get that I already have it. Then it gets stucked on "No CMAKE_C_COMPILER could be found". I have all base-devel installed.
- Executing binaires just gives me: "core dumped"
- Trying to compile is a hell: first the script wants to execure "sudo apt get install" for the boost 1.55 ?!?! Probably doesn't get that I already have it. Then it gets stucked on "No CMAKE_C_COMPILER could be found". I have all base-devel installed.
Have you got gcc 4.9+ installed?
Hi ff, thanks for replying. I run chakra linux which is kde arch basically. 64bits.
Kernel 3.15.5-1
gcc 4.9.0.8
cmake 3.0.0.1
make 3.82
boost 1.55
August 30, 2014, 09:56:04 AM
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.
dont need Monero for that... Bitcoin does the same
~CfA~
Bitcoin is a store of value. It's non-confiscatable and allows transfer funds. Perfect, except it does not include perfect anonymity.
Without anonymity, the government still has power to track transaction and prosecute people based on such evidence. Monero solves this, and thus we need it.
I didn't get into crypto currencies to become rich, that was just a side-effect. - TheKoziTwo
In the future, when everyone is looking back at the early days of cryptocurrenuncies, that line by TheKoziTwo is gonna be famous.
August 30, 2014, 09:39:54 AM
I may be strange in that it seems perfectly valid to me. I pay taxes, because by paying, I lose only the sum invested, but by not paying, I risk unforeseen consequences. With Monero there is at least some upside, unlike in paying taxes which is a genuine lose-lose...
This looks like fear of the long arm of the law to me. It is understandable for an individual, but not for a citizen.I pay taxes because I want children to be educated, hospital to work, road to be in working state, science to progress (and the fact that individual corporations can achieve it concurrently is not enough of an argument for me). I believe in society, even if I agree that inefficiency and outright corruption plague the world.
One shall not pay taxes because he is afraid of getting caught. One shall pay taxes because he believes in the project called society. To make a conceit, I'd say the fundamentals are strong, even if the implementation leaves an awful lot to be desired. I really believe that a nation could use a cryptocurrency as its main tool, even an anonymous one like Monero.
People are complaining about greedy bastards and selfish miners, but what is paying taxes lest being caught? Not that different. Now, I agree that one shall have the right to refuse (and thus leave society) and this is hard to the point of being practically impossible at the moment (international waters or outer space, anyone?).
That being said, your analogy, Risto, is didactically potent.
Official team (which of course includes eizh) is listed on the first post of this thread:
And repeated in the Almighty FAQ:Who are you?
See Monero Missives #1: "(in no particular order) - tacotime, eizh, smooth, fluffypony, othe, davidlatapie, NoodleDoodle
See Monero Missives #1: "(in no particular order) - tacotime, eizh, smooth, fluffypony, othe, davidlatapie, NoodleDoodle
(Sorry eizh, not sure who all is the "Full" dev team so my apologies if you are on it!)
Q: Who are the official development team members?
A: (in no particular order) - tacotime, eizh, smooth, fluffypony, othe, davidlatapie, NoodleDoodle
A: (in no particular order) - tacotime, eizh, smooth, fluffypony, othe, davidlatapie, NoodleDoodle
August 30, 2014, 09:39:16 AM
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.
dont need Monero for that... Bitcoin does the same
~CfA~
Bitcoin is a store of value. It's non-confiscatable and allows transfer funds. Perfect, except it does not include perfect anonymity.
Without anonymity, the government still has power to track transaction and prosecute people based on such evidence. Monero solves this, and thus we need it.
This should be first and foremost in everybody's mind. Thanks for the reminder.
Here here.
August 30, 2014, 09:27:26 AM
Has anyone successfully compiled bitmonerd/simplewallet on Arch ?
- Executing binaires just gives me: "core dumped"
- Trying to compile is a hell: first the script wants to execure "sudo apt get install" for the boost 1.55 ?!?! Probably doesn't get that I already have it. Then it gets stucked on "No CMAKE_C_COMPILER could be found". I have all base-devel installed.
- Executing binaires just gives me: "core dumped"
- Trying to compile is a hell: first the script wants to execure "sudo apt get install" for the boost 1.55 ?!?! Probably doesn't get that I already have it. Then it gets stucked on "No CMAKE_C_COMPILER could be found". I have all base-devel installed.
Have you got gcc 4.9+ installed?
August 30, 2014, 08:59:46 AM
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.
dont need Monero for that... Bitcoin does the same
~CfA~
Bitcoin is a store of value. It's non-confiscatable and allows transfer funds. Perfect, except it does not include perfect anonymity.
Without anonymity, the government still has power to track transaction and prosecute people based on such evidence. Monero solves this, and thus we need it.
This should be first and foremost in everybody's mind. Thanks for the reminder.
August 30, 2014, 08:48:09 AM
Come-from-Above
If you want fast profit Monero is not for you. There are coins that goes up and down for 100% in a day. Monero will never have this. Monero is long term investment. Buy now and forget about it for 2 years.
But since other coins give you chance to earn fast, they also give you chance to lose fast. So be carefull.
If you want fast profit Monero is not for you. There are coins that goes up and down for 100% in a day. Monero will never have this. Monero is long term investment. Buy now and forget about it for 2 years.
But since other coins give you chance to earn fast, they also give you chance to lose fast. So be carefull.
August 30, 2014, 08:26:39 AM
Will monero implement libjl777 ?
Pirates off the port stern.
August 30, 2014, 08:16:50 AM
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.
dont need Monero for that... Bitcoin does the same
~CfA~
Bitcoin is a store of value. It's non-confiscatable and allows transfer funds. Perfect, except it does not include perfect anonymity.
Without anonymity, the government still has power to track transaction and prosecute people based on such evidence. Monero solves this, and thus we need it.
August 30, 2014, 08:11:26 AM
Will monero implement libjl777 ?
August 30, 2014, 08:03:34 AM
XMR is the future.
August 30, 2014, 07:58:58 AM
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.
dont need Monero for that... Bitcoin does the same
~CfA~
August 30, 2014, 07:54:20 AM
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.
August 30, 2014, 07:13:38 AM
It's not all about money, you should know that.
hahaha ok... ok
what is it about ?If you don't even know it, I don't waste my time to explain it. Next time troll harder.
if u cant even answer and every1 asking is a 'troll' plz dont write anything
tell me what it is about if its not about the money- im genuinely interested
~CfA~
August 30, 2014, 07:13:10 AM
It's not all about money, you should know that.
hahaha ok... ok
what is it about ?If you don't even know it, I don't waste my time to explain it. Next time troll harder.
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