Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1553. (Read 4670972 times)

I'm recompiling it statically as we speak, the builds I put up yesterday were dynamically compiled (so you'd only be able to run them if you have Qt installed in exactly the same place I do). Should have those up within the next couple of hours at most (you have to first recompile the whole of Qt statically before you can build static binaries, lol).

I like the 'account' language.  I also appriciatenthe communication and work on the GUI.  Looking forward to trying it out later today.

The problem is that waiting leads to entrenchment. We've seen it time and time again; this very forum is an example of something that was haphazardly done to fill a need, and now we're lumped with it. If we're going to make a change that is trivial (this requires no effort other than renaming some stuff) but has far-reaching effects, then it is imperative that we do it now.

PayPal only use PayPal Wallet to describe their mobile app that you can also use for in-store payments, and this parlance has been followed by MasterCard with their PayPass Wallet, and the terribly unsuccessful Square Wallet that they recently killed off. When you go on to PayPal's website and sign up they give you the option of creating an individual account or a business account, so the term is in use and familiar to people. Perhaps it'll make more sense if I show you a mockup of the second step in the first-start wizard (please ignore grammar/spelling faux pas) -



Remember that we're not trying to do what Bitcoin already does. We're untethered and unhinged, and merely following in Bitcoin's footsteps has done Litecoin and others no good. In a sense (and I'm not trying to make comparisons here) we are in a position to do what Apple did when they released the first iPhone. Did touchscreen phones exist? Absolutely. Did smartphones exist? Most assuredly. Were there phones with capable browsers? Definitely. So what did the iPhone do differently that made it successful? It built on an existing foundation others had created, but it pulled everything together in a way that made it accessible to everyone. Windows Mobile in 2007 was for nerds, Blackberry was for businessmen. The iPhone was for everyone. Let's not constrict and restrict ourselves by looking at what Bitcoin does:)

First, thanks for the weekly Monero updates. I am most excited by the new GUI.

Regarding the renaming of wallets to accounts, going against the grain here is probably going to do more harm than good. All of Bitcoins advertising (terms) is basically industry standard, not to mention Paypal using the term wallet as well. I strongly suggest against rebranding the term to account.

Unless you plan on spending more money and resouces getting the word out there about Monero accounts, than BTC wallets, you are waging a losing battle. Perhaps later, when Monero is well known, but doing it at this juncture is like putting both the cart before the horse and creating an uphill battle, at a minimum. TBH, I would prefer to put this rebranding, waaaay on the backburner.

Further, account does sound a bit centralized in that it sounds connected to an institution or company.

Please rethink this expenditure of energy that imo is going to come back and bite us.

Much respect to the devs however. I am just bringing up a concern.

IAS

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i'd like to rent a girlfriend for a few hours with monero

As soon as you guys get that database issue worked out ill take a spot in "3rd dan monero heros with coins of Gold"

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I would think they are more creative than that.

Aha?

cAPSLOCK, that was my first thought and then I read this.....

"But fear not, within the next week or two we are going to have a way you can donate to the ongoing development of Monero whilst still getting something directly."

Monero Community Hall of Fame!

Wow!

Looking forward to your donation initiative.  I will be donating.

Thanks for mentioning! I really recommend to consider hitting Twitter or Reddit if you want to stay up-to-date. If you have any further questions about the Social Media stuff, just ask me

Maybe the sites could be focused around Monero using Cryptonote tech, explaining what it is, etc etc. There good names, if you have good monero domain names, maybe you could make sites concerning the domain name extension.

And ofc, anyone with .org/.com domain extensions for monero could make an all around monero information site, similar to bitcoins .org/.com etc etc

I own the domain names: CryptoNote.eu, CryptoNote.de, CryptoNote.pro, CryptoNote.biz, CryptoNote.wiki and CryptoNote.co.

As is it turned out now: there will be no general, independent, viable CryptoNote scene/community, as it was once projected/predicted. This idea/concept is dead.

Leads me to my question: What do now?

- how can these domains be used now to help and support the Monero project, any ideas?

- where should they redirect to? (e.g. direct to monero.cc? hehe)

- what kind of service or information should/could be hosted under one of these domainname, so Monero can profit from it

- should we as Monero community may run an general info site on CryptoNote, that is more objective/neutral and contains correct facts, instead of FUD/misguiding then the sites owned by the ByteCoin/CryptoNote-Foundation-Crew with sites like cryptonote.org, cryptonotefoundation.org, cryptonotestarter.org etc. (with they try to manipulate and influence the CryptoNote space/ecosystem)

Yeah, please suggest anything, I would try make it possible. Because I am seriously trying to setup services around Monero anyway, to support the ecosytem. (Question: Can these domains help anyhow or aren't they of any use.) I need to know where is demand. What type Monero or CN service, information site or other useful web site is currently missing or could be improved.


If someone of you, want any of these domains to use for an project/site, that support/help Monero project or community, I would donate the domain to you (for free).

Any input is greatly desired. Thank you.

Whats going on with monerochain.info ?

Monero Missives

August 16th, 2014

Hello, and welcome to our eleventh Monero Missive!

Major Updates

1. We know everyone is quite keen to play around with the GUI. We are still doing a great deal of underlying work, but we wanted to get the interface out there for everyone to have a play and see how they like it. There are some bugs (for example, resizing the MiniWindow interface does not work), and there are some spelling errors that we'll fix as we pull everything out for Qt Linguist to handle translation. But if you're happy to play around then please grab a binary - we'll take feedback in the form of github issues as soon as we've finalised the initial release of the interface and have it up there. You can download the interface binary for Windows or Mac. We'll also push a Linux build out in the next day or two once it is confirmed as all working!

2. Our /r/monero sub-reddit broke 600 subscribers! If you are a Redditor and you aren't subscribed, now would be a very excellent time to do so! And whilst you're sorting out your social media, why not make a turn at our Facebook Page and click the "Like" button, and then swing past our Twitter and make sure you're following us:)

3. We are always quite hesitant when it comes to discussing donations, but they have been quite thin, which does make our job that much more difficult. With our increased download and testing equipment costs, we are spread quite thin. But fear not, within the next week or two we are going to have a way you can donate to the ongoing development of Monero whilst still getting something directly. In the interim, please do not forget that the donation addresses are in the OP, and that it is your ongoing support that is helping us plough ahead with development!

4. In case you haven't watched the #Monero-Dev Fireside Chat, we'd like to take a moment to discuss an upcoming terminology change. To take it from the github issue that has been at the centre of the discussion: It's been suggested that "wallet" is a poor description for laymen, and may hinder adoption. It's also arguably sexist - men have wallets, women have purses, and whilst "moneybag" is genderless it's probably the wrong term;) Whilst Monero is quite far from a point where this terminology becomes an issue, it's the sort of change that we can make sooner rather than later. The term we're going to be moving to is "account". We are aware that some may think that this implies centralisation, but there are key advantages to making this switch, especially as it pertains to new users not familiar with cryptocurrencies:

   - It fits in with the whole "be your own bank" motion, which is a good way to explain cryptocurrency in general to people
   - The idea of separation of accounts is already familiar to people - a married couple may have a joint account, a company will have an account (or accounts), a savings account would be separate, and so on
   - People are familiar and happy with paying a fee for moving funds between accounts, so it won't be foreign to them
   - It's the most familiar path for the general public. They understand creating an account, using a strong password, password recovery, etc. It's a natural transition for them.

   We expect to make this change sometime in the next month or so when we have our next tagged release.

5. thefunkybits started a Twitter campaign to mention Monero to major exchanges and news outlets. He is paying 0.4 XMR per Tweet, so if that is something you're interested in head on over to his thread on the matter.

6. Atrides, the admin of DwarfPool, released an open-source Monero stratum proxy. This allows multiple mining machines inside of a network to all connect to the proxy server, so that only a single connection to the Internet is made. It's also useful for geographically distributed mining rigs, or even for miners that simultaneously GPU and CPU mine. More info is at his thread, and the code is on his github repo.

7. This week we have been working on finalising the QoS bandwidth control, finalising the mingw64 Windows build system (thus removing the need for Microsoft Visual Studio on Windows builds), and an effort has begun to refactor the wallet code so that integration with the GUI will be much easier later on (and to make things ready for the wallet -> account terminology change).

Dev Diary

Core: we are going to be adding a development branch to the main repo so that vaguely working code can be merged there and rebased by all contributors faster. Right now the multiple branches are becoming messy for rebasing. This won't change that the main branch is staging, but it will provide better fluidity, and obviously all the changes can be merged into master when they are ready for broader end-user/environment testing. Ongoing testing of this branch is heavily encouraged, and opening github issues (for issues that actually exist) will be rewarded with 1x our eternal gratitude (limited to 10 per user).

Build: most of the mingw64 / msys2 is "done", thanks to the mikezackles' hard work. The branch is currently here: https://github.com/mikezackles/bitmonero/tree/mingw. However, we will be pushing this (which includes the Windows service and daemonize changes, as well as the rpcwallet change) into the development branch on Monday. Once it's up, please test it, especially on Windows environments, so we can start stripping out the VS ifdefs.

Wallet: mikezackles is heavily refactoring the wallet code to be more legible, and more in line with our standards and expectations. This effort can be followed here: https://github.com/mikezackles/bitmonero/tree/account_refactor

Blockchain: tewinget's abstraction and refactoring of the blockchain functions is coming to a head, and we are hoping to start some specific integrations for performance testing so that an embedded database can be decided on and fixed.

Core: QoS will need to be rebased by rfree once the mingw branch is pushed to the development branch. Subsequent to rebasing, it will also be merged in to development, so barring any breaking issues it should be available for general testing within the next week.

Until next week!

- updated by fluffypony

Monero Missives

August 10th, 2014

Hello, and welcome to our tenth Monero Missive!

This Missive was meant to go out on August 10th, but due to a little miscommunication and all the excitement with the new GUI, it went out quite a bit later. Please accept our apologies for the delay in bringing this to you!

Major Updates

1. We had an extremely successful #Monero-Dev Fireside Chat broadcast last Friday. This was a special event as it let us show off the GUI and talk about all the work that has gone into it thus far. That having been said, the #Monero-Dev Fireside Chats are developer-centric events, so as and when we do them again in future the focus will be more on core components, RPC/IPC, and future development efforts that affect the way developers interact with, expand, and use Monero. We are hoping to do our next #Monero-Dev Fireside Chat in a few weeks once there are more changes that are discussion worth. If you haven't seen the first Fireside Chat, you can always catch-up and watch it here.

2. As mentioned, we showed off the work that has been done thus far on the Monero GUI. There is still quite a bit of work to be done, but we are very proud of what has been accomplished thus far. You can take a look at the work that has been put into the GUI in these screenshots. A couple of common questions that we'd like to address:

   - This is not a web-based GUI, it is a standalone desktop application, and is thus not open to common web-based UI exploits (XSS and so on)
   - It is written using Qt, and is completely cross-platform, so it will run on Windows, Mac, and Linux without issue
   - There are lots of aspects that are a work-in-progress, so if you spot any spelling errors and so on make a note of it and see if it isn't fixed when we push the first release of the interface up on github for everyone to play with before we start integrating it into the code
   - There is still a lot of work to be done, so we are unable to provide a release timeline, but we are working on it as hard as possible

3. We'd also like to extend a warm thank you to all who have donated. The GUI, and everything we do on Monero, is completely donation supported. Without your effort we would not be able to continue working on Monero at the pace we have been! Don't forget that by donating you can secure your place in the Monero Community Hall of Fame!

4. For those that want to include a price ticker on their website, CoinGecko has an excellent Monero price ticker that lets you display the current Monero price in BTC, USD, GBP, EUR, and lots of other currencies. It's easy to use, and it produces a small snippet you can drop into your website's HTML.

5. Much of the development effort this week has been building up to the Fireside Chat. A major improvement in the development process is the purchase and configuration of a proper test environment, as we move towards a Continuous Integration process that will allow for much faster testing and deployment. We are also rapidly getting to a point where Windows users will be able to compile Monero without needing Visual Studio.

Dev Diary

Blockchain: tewinget is starting to bring the abstracted BlockchainDB functions together, as discussed in the Fireside Chat. You can continue to follow his work on his branch: https://github.com/tewinget/bitmonero/tree/bc2

Build: rfree has completely overhauled the CMakeLists to make for target-specific builds (ie. binaries can be included and excluded at the command line, test suite can be excluded, and precompiled headers can be used to speed up builds). This is in a PR if anyone wants to test it before merge: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/pull/91

Core: part of the PR from rfree is to completely discard the old epee logging system, and move to a logging system he originally developed for Open Transactions. This allows for channeled logging (ie. separation of log levels in log files), as well as a host of other logging improvements. There is still some work to be done on this, but this will be the only logging method available soon, and contributed code will need to use the appropriate calls instead of the old epee calls.

Testing: dbit is going to be working on bringing the unit tests up to scratch and on creating missing unit tests. We have now rented a reasonably specced Mac Mini from MacStadium, and quite a beefy test server from Hetzner to handle VMs for all the Windows and Linux flavours needed. We will be purchasing Windows licenses for the test VMs over the coming weeks.

Download: after taking quite a financial hit servicing nearly 100tb of blockchain and client downloads over the month of April, we're in the process of moving all downloads on to edge servers in data centers in the US, the UK, and the EU. Servers have been rented, and there is quite a bit of work to be done configuring them. Thankfully, all of these servers are on 1gbps unmetered connections, so that will vastly reduce our bandwidth costs next month.

Until next week!

- updated by fluffypony

Guys I must apologise. I thought we published last week's Missive after the Fireside Chat, but due to a bit of confusion it didn't get posted. So...today you get a double whammy, last week's Missive AND this week's Missive! You'll notice a special surprise in this week's missive (for Mac and Windows users...Linux users will have to wait an extra day:)