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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1563. (Read 4670622 times)

legendary
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Would it be smart to place some "smart" restrictions around high mixin? To help the blockchain size?

Like- Prevent it on "Dust" sized tx.

When we move to per-kb tx fees then there will be a linear relationship between the mixin level and the fee you pay, so that will discourage that. Ultimately, though, if someone makes a bunch of high mixin transactions, all they're doing is adding to the utxoset, and thus widening the anonymityset (which is a good thing:)

BTW, currently default mixin = 3 for node-cryptonote-pool. If you, guys, concern about it, probably it's will be good idea to submit a PR and change it to 0 by default.
newbie
Activity: 50
Merit: 0
Well, there are two different things you are trying to solve here.

1) Ease of use

2) Not having all transactions at the same mixin level

I don't think pushing the burden of 2 on to the average user is the way to solve it. Its a highly technical detail that 95% of users (or more) are not going to understand or want to think about, and it will constantly make them wonder if they are "doing the right thing" or if their transaction is secure enough. Could even discourage use.

The average user is completely ignorant and scared of technology. They know how to turn on their PCs, click the email icons, and that's about it. Thats not an insult to them. They are experts at their day job being doctors, lawyers, etc... but they just don't have any desire or understanding of tech in general. Given that the GUI wallet's purpose is to remove the complexity and make Monero accessible to the masses (if that's possible), then I would really focus on removing any "cognitive load" on the user. Don't force them to think about things that they can't possible understand anyway.

Perhaps a good solution would be to automatically randomize the mix in value between an upper and lower bound and not expose it at all to the end user. Advanced users that want to specifiy a certain value can do so in their preferences or an advanced options screen.


Don't you think this is a knowledge transfer / user education thing? I mean, after the first start wizard new users will see the tutorial screen (I'll show that off when completed), so before they see the privacy slider in the natural course of things they'll learn what it is.

Not showing the privacy slider effectively locks 90% of future transactions in at a single mixin (or even a random selection from a group), so this is something we need to keep loose so that the anonymityset isn't slightly reduced by a fixed mixin level.
donator
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1060
GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
Would it be smart to place some "smart" restrictions around high mixin? To help the blockchain size?

Like- Prevent it on "Dust" sized tx.

When we move to per-kb tx fees then there will be a linear relationship between the mixin level and the fee you pay, so that will discourage that. Ultimately, though, if someone makes a bunch of high mixin transactions, all they're doing is adding to the utxoset, and thus widening the anonymityset (which is a good thing:)
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
Maybe dumb question, but what are the effects of higher vs lower mixins on

-blockchain size
-transaction speed

blockchain size

The higher the mixin the greater the physical transaction size, so if everyone is using a mixin of 100 it would increase tx size (and thus block size) linearly with the mixin amount.

transaction speed

Zero impact. Unlike a coin that uses multiple stages of mixing, onion mixing, or CoinJoin (even with multiple mixing stages) a tx is the same speed whether it has a mixin of 2, 20, or 200.

Would it be smart to place some "smart" restrictions around high mixin? To help the blockchain size?

Like- Prevent it on "Dust" sized tx.
full member
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legendary
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Merit: 1129
Is anyone willing to sell me a small amount of monero? Maybe like 20-ish?

Why not use an exchange?
Because I'm only registered to 1 for altcoins and 1 for Bitcoin.
Registering then transferring the BTC there, buying monero transferring it back is just too much work wasted for a small amount.


You have to work at it to learn, and to get anything out.Try some new exchanges: you will discover useful information.

I started on altcoins 18 months ago, worked at it,and made nothing for a while. Now it is different.

By now, I am now registered on 26 exchanges, and own 75 different coins.
legendary
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Merit: 2965
Terminated.
For anyone who might message me, I will already have a deal and get my Monero soon.
Join us on IRC.  Smiley
member
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Merit: 10
Virustotal is showing lots of hits on  yvg1900 - Mu7 Miner CPU miner.

https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/caeb65367a8d7fa5a07986845036b7dcd4b631787ac3932fe2dd08c3ff427111/analysis/1407680763/

Is also unable to connect via proxy, thoughts?
donator
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1060
GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
Is anyone willing to sell me a small amount of monero? Maybe like 20-ish?

Why not use an exchange?
Because I'm only registered to 1 for altcoins and 1 for Bitcoin.
Registering then transferring the BTC there, buying monero transferring it back is just too much work wasted for a small amount.


If you hop on to IRC on Freenode, then there's a channel for OTC trades - #monero-otc
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
there was a 5620 XMR dumped on bittrex right down to .003 this morning


I have bought some when the value was about .0045, do you think it will recover or I should sell now and take the loss?

I'm not sure, I'm not selling, but it is disappointing to see a strong coin like Monero fall like this. What does it say? That the market is not interested in strong coins at all? But the market is more interested in fluff?

It seems the folly of man is going to be our downside, not any issue with Monero itself.

Dark times.

In the whole history of Cryptocurrencies that has in fact been the same. Prices and markets are always driven by short term profit, that is to say the real weight of money is looking for that.

'Investment' in true value and utility is a much longer game, much smaller capital, and it often suffers from the ebbs and flows of profiteers.

It has always been thus with stocks, commodities etc.. Without the markets, new ideas would not be funded : price paid.

Perhaps you try to listen to the voice of reason, and, if possible, not sell your monero to me just before the turn! Wink
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
Is anyone willing to sell me a small amount of monero? Maybe like 20-ish?

Why not use an exchange?
Because I'm only registered to 1 for altcoins and 1 for Bitcoin.
Registering then transferring the BTC there, buying monero transferring it back is just too much work wasted for a small amount.
legendary
Activity: 930
Merit: 1010
Is anyone willing to sell me a small amount of monero? Maybe like 20-ish?

Why not use an exchange?
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Is anyone willing to sell me a small amount of monero? Maybe like 20-ish?

Maybe if BTER would give me mine back! Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
Is anyone willing to sell me a small amount of monero? Maybe like 20-ish?
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
...The other is for writing an online article that describes how I2P and Tor are a necessary part of keeping cryptocurrency transactions anonymous....

I thought I2P has a zero day vulnerability that gives up user IP's. Has it been patched? I doubt we want to push out articles on a flawed protocol touting how it protects . I haven't kept up so If it's been address then disregard.

Here's what you're referring to (I think) - http://gigaom.com/2014/07/24/researchers-find-serious-flaw-in-i2p-an-anonymizing-layer-used-in-amnesic-os-tails/

Basically the attack was a Javascript-based cross-site scripting (XSS) attack that could deanonymise i2p users who have JS enabled in their browser and visit a malicious website. It would not have affected AnonCoin or Monero users, as neither cryptocurrency uses an in-browser interface. As we all know due to the many exploits that anyone that have followed a similar strategy, anyone using Tor or i2p for web browsing with JS enabled is looking for trouble;) Either way, this has been patched in i2p.

Thanks man, Yeah enabling Javascrypt is a retard move. Not to mention Flash and a host of other backdoor plugins. W00ps I mentioned it. I wrote a program in 99 to remove M$ JVM. And remove By *script engines and executable extensions like shellscrap by default on any system I protect. Protecting a default Win box is a fulltime job! And don't even think of installing a update unless you want all your hard work revered by those cocksuckers.
donator
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1060
GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
...The other is for writing an online article that describes how I2P and Tor are a necessary part of keeping cryptocurrency transactions anonymous....

I thought I2P has a zero day vulnerability that gives up user IP's. Has it been patched? I doubt we want to push out articles on a flawed protocol touting how it protects . I haven't kept up so If it's been address then disregard.

Here's what you're referring to (I think) - http://gigaom.com/2014/07/24/researchers-find-serious-flaw-in-i2p-an-anonymizing-layer-used-in-amnesic-os-tails/

Basically the attack was a Javascript-based cross-site scripting (XSS) attack that could deanonymise i2p users who have JS enabled in their browser and visit a malicious website. It would not have affected AnonCoin or Monero users, as neither cryptocurrency uses an in-browser interface. As we all know due to the many exploits that anyone that have followed a similar strategy, anyone using Tor or i2p for web browsing with JS enabled is looking for trouble;) Either way, this has been patched in i2p.
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
...The other is for writing an online article that describes how I2P and Tor are a necessary part of keeping cryptocurrency transactions anonymous....

I thought I2P has a zero day vulnerability that gives up user IP's. Has it been patched? I doubt we want to push out articles on a flawed protocol touting how it protects . I haven't kept up so If it's been address then disregard.
member
Activity: 86
Merit: 10
Can anyone help me?
I`m mining XMR here - http://moneropool.com/

My wallet has a status "Ready" and Connections "12 peers".

In accordance with my stats at that pool I must receive 3.3+ XMR, but it is already second day and they are still not in my wallet. I`ve checked transactions here - http://monerochain.info by my wallet address and there is no transactions in direction of my address.

How can that be?
are you using a GUI version or the daemon wallet?

if you are using the daemon wallet.
are you sure the daemon is running AND simplewallet?
have you typed "refresh" (without brackets) in simplewallet?

I`ve downloaded files from here - http://monero.cc/downloads/monero.win.x64.latest.zip
Then downloaded the wallet from here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/b3xgosizc4...llet_latest.7z
Put all in one folder and started the MoneroWallet. Created the wallet and added the password.

That is all.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
Can anyone help me?
I`m mining XMR here - http://moneropool.com/

My wallet has a status "Ready" and Connections "12 peers".

In accordance with my stats at that pool I must receive 3.3+ XMR, but it is already second day and they are still not in my wallet. I`ve checked transactions here - http://monerochain.info by my wallet address and there is no transactions in direction of my address.

How can that be?
are you using a GUI version or the daemon wallet?

if you are using the daemon wallet.
are you sure the daemon is running AND simplewallet?
have you typed "refresh" (without brackets) in simplewallet?
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
Can anyone help me?
I`m mining XMR here - http://moneropool.com/

My wallet has a status "Ready" and Connections "12 peers".

In accordance with my stats at that pool I must receive 3.3+ XMR, but it is already second day and they are still not in my wallet. I`ve checked transactions here - http://monerochain.info by my wallet address and there is no transactions in direction of my address.

How can that be?

You can't look up transactions by payment address, that is one of they key privacy features. You need a txid. Get in touch with the pool (most of them are on IRC) and work with them on the issue of why you aren't receiving payments.

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