Speculation about drop in network hash rate?
Similar drop happened on july the 13th. That was the day we hit the bottom. Maybe we're in for a double bottom at 3,3ish ? i dont know.
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August 10, 2014, 08:54:50 PM
Similar drop happened on july the 13th. That was the day we hit the bottom. Maybe we're in for a double bottom at 3,3ish ? i dont know.
August 10, 2014, 08:54:40 PM
Can't see one miner having that much hash power.
Quite easily if one person who had a huge farm found a more profitable coin to mine and bailed.
Could it be an error in the chart? How the hell could it drop like that out of the blue?
Speculation about drop in network hash rate?
Speculation about drop in network hash rate?
Quite easily if one person who had a huge farm found a more profitable coin to mine and bailed.
August 10, 2014, 08:52:59 PM
Speculation about drop in network hash rate? Moneropool.com dropped 3 MH?
They might be having network issues or under attack I'm guessing. Some of my miners are getting timed out going there.
August 10, 2014, 08:52:20 PM
Could it be an error in the chart? How the hell could it drop like that out of the blue?
Speculation about drop in network hash rate?
Speculation about drop in network hash rate?
Quite easily if one person who had a huge farm found a more profitable coin to mine and bailed.
August 10, 2014, 08:46:46 PM
Could it be an error in the chart? How the hell could it drop like that out of the blue?
Speculation about drop in network hash rate?
Speculation about drop in network hash rate?
August 10, 2014, 08:40:20 PM
Speculation about drop in network hash rate? Moneropool.com dropped 3 MH?
August 10, 2014, 08:17:04 PM
Better check these off your list.
Coinex
Coinmarket io
Coinex
Coinmarket io
Yes...Dead ones. I think actually, Coinex turned into a scam ? I traded on it but never got any of my withdrawals.
I would divide exchanges into categories:
Still running well
Still running but poor function
Started with good intent, but failed for external reasons/hack etc..
Seemed OK initially but turned into a scam/ owners ran off.
Planned Scam from the outset.
Sounds like a good thread there.
August 10, 2014, 08:04:30 PM
Better check these off your list.
Coinex
Coinmarket io
Coinex
Coinmarket io
Yes...Dead ones. I think actually, Coinex turned into a scam ? I traded on it but never got any of my withdrawals.
I would divide exchanges into categories:
Still running well
Still running but poor function
Started with good intent, but failed for external reasons/hack etc..
Seemed OK initially but turned into a scam/ owners ran off.
Planned Scam from the outset.
August 10, 2014, 07:56:28 PM
Better check these off your list.
Coinex
Coinmarket io
Coinex
Coinmarket io
August 10, 2014, 07:05:52 PM
Is anyone willing to sell me a small amount of monero? Maybe like 20-ish?
Why not use an exchange?
Registering then transferring the BTC there, buying monero transferring it back is just too much work wasted for a small amount.
You have to work at it to learn, and to get anything out.Try some new exchanges: you will discover useful information.
I started on altcoins 18 months ago, worked at it,and made nothing for a while. Now it is different.
By now, I am now registered on 26 exchanges, and own 75 different coins.
That is alot of exchanges. You should start a thread and list and rate them.. I didn't even know there was that many still operational. Are you including the scammer ones in that list?
Just checked and:
23 (nearly all still going)
Allcoin
Allcrypt
Alt2Bit
Atomic Trade
BitStamp
BTCe
Bter
Coinedup
Coinex
Coinmarket io
CoinsE
Comkort
Cryptonit
Cryptsy
Ecoiner
Europex
Justcoin
MCXnow
Mintpal
Poloniex
Swaphole
Swisscex
Vircurex
Plus 5 definitely defunct
MTGox (failed)
BTC Central (hacked and failed)
Openex (closed)
IndieMarket (failed)
Sharex (turned out a scam)
Cryptorush (failed)
I traded on all those....there were a couple of other scam ones I can't recall (sent BTC and lost it) because I deleted all records.
So 30 in all.
August 10, 2014, 07:04:39 PM
Virustotal is showing lots of hits on yvg1900 - Mu7 Miner CPU miner.
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/caeb65367a8d7fa5a07986845036b7dcd4b631787ac3932fe2dd08c3ff427111/analysis/1407680763/
Is also unable to connect via proxy, thoughts?
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/caeb65367a8d7fa5a07986845036b7dcd4b631787ac3932fe2dd08c3ff427111/analysis/1407680763/
Is also unable to connect via proxy, thoughts?
Most (but not all) malware hits on miner are false positives caused by malware that includes the miner as a component. I would not personally be concerned about yvg's miner as long as you are getting it from yvg's official download location (and nowhere else).
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August 10, 2014, 05:01:41 PM
Regarding mixins, it might be useful to have a low-end random mixin as a default. So if the user selects "Low" or doesn't specify, the mixin would be a random value between 2 and 10 (for example).
If the user selects "Medium" ambiguity, mixin is a random number between 11 and 20.
If the user selects "High" ambiguity, mixin is a random number between 21 and 30.
etc.
If the user selects "Medium" ambiguity, mixin is a random number between 11 and 20.
If the user selects "High" ambiguity, mixin is a random number between 21 and 30.
etc.
Remember that it's a slider, so we can have 2 as the minimum (for instance) and 100 as the maximum on the slider, and we can literally have all 98 intermediary steps represented.
I do fully back Mumbles' suggestion (especially as it's something I've alluded to before) that dashboard transfers (which don't have a privacy slider) will have a random mixin between the minimum and a sane value that doesn't ramp the tx fees when we're on per-kb fees.
August 10, 2014, 04:56:21 PM
Regarding mixins, it might be useful to have a low-end random mixin as a default. So if the user selects "Low" or doesn't specify, the mixin would be a random value between 2 and 10 (for example).
If the user selects "Medium" ambiguity, mixin is a random number between 11 and 20.
If the user selects "High" ambiguity, mixin is a random number between 21 and 30.
etc.
If the user selects "Medium" ambiguity, mixin is a random number between 11 and 20.
If the user selects "High" ambiguity, mixin is a random number between 21 and 30.
etc.
August 10, 2014, 03:54:59 PM
Is anyone willing to sell me a small amount of monero? Maybe like 20-ish?
Why not use an exchange?
Registering then transferring the BTC there, buying monero transferring it back is just too much work wasted for a small amount.
You have to work at it to learn, and to get anything out.Try some new exchanges: you will discover useful information.
I started on altcoins 18 months ago, worked at it,and made nothing for a while. Now it is different.
By now, I am now registered on 26 exchanges, and own 75 different coins.
That is alot of exchanges. You should start a thread and list and rate them.. I didn't even know there was that many still operational. Are you including the scammer ones in that list?
August 10, 2014, 03:30:54 PM
You have to work at it to learn, and to get anything out.Try some new exchanges: you will discover useful information.
I started on altcoins 18 months ago, worked at it,and made nothing for a while. Now it is different.
By now, I am now registered on 26 exchanges, and own 75 different coins.
It's nice to see that you're still around. It's been a while now since I've noticed one of your posts.I started on altcoins 18 months ago, worked at it,and made nothing for a while. Now it is different.
By now, I am now registered on 26 exchanges, and own 75 different coins.
Indeed, you're a real trader but I do not have time for this sadly. Other life issues have recently struck and I had to sell out most of it.
So you're a supporter of monero as well or you're just trading it?
August 10, 2014, 02:45:18 PM
Well, there are two different things you are trying to solve here.
1) Ease of use
2) Not having all transactions at the same mixin level
I don't think pushing the burden of 2 on to the average user is the way to solve it. Its a highly technical detail that 95% of users (or more) are not going to understand or want to think about, and it will constantly make them wonder if they are "doing the right thing" or if their transaction is secure enough. Could even discourage use.
The average user is completely ignorant and scared of technology. They know how to turn on their PCs, click the email icons, and that's about it. Thats not an insult to them. They are experts at their day job being doctors, lawyers, etc... but they just don't have any desire or understanding of tech in general. Given that the GUI wallet's purpose is to remove the complexity and make Monero accessible to the masses (if that's possible), then I would really focus on removing any "cognitive load" on the user. Don't force them to think about things that they can't possible understand anyway.
Perhaps a good solution would be to automatically randomize the mix in value between an upper and lower bound and not expose it at all to the end user. Advanced users that want to specifiy a certain value can do so in their preferences or an advanced options screen.
1) Ease of use
2) Not having all transactions at the same mixin level
I don't think pushing the burden of 2 on to the average user is the way to solve it. Its a highly technical detail that 95% of users (or more) are not going to understand or want to think about, and it will constantly make them wonder if they are "doing the right thing" or if their transaction is secure enough. Could even discourage use.
The average user is completely ignorant and scared of technology. They know how to turn on their PCs, click the email icons, and that's about it. Thats not an insult to them. They are experts at their day job being doctors, lawyers, etc... but they just don't have any desire or understanding of tech in general. Given that the GUI wallet's purpose is to remove the complexity and make Monero accessible to the masses (if that's possible), then I would really focus on removing any "cognitive load" on the user. Don't force them to think about things that they can't possible understand anyway.
Perhaps a good solution would be to automatically randomize the mix in value between an upper and lower bound and not expose it at all to the end user. Advanced users that want to specifiy a certain value can do so in their preferences or an advanced options screen.
Once we have the entire interface completed we'll do interface testing with testing groups made up of people in multiple countries from all sorts of backgrounds, so we'll have a good cross-section. Typically they have a series of tasks to perform with no education or training on how to use the product or even what it is. We film them over their shoulder to see how they react and where they get frustrated. During this process we can do A/B testing with the privacy bar on/off between two groups, and then we'll have some tangible feedback as to what works and what doesn't. Should give us some direction as to what to do with that:)
August 10, 2014, 02:19:22 PM
I was hoping that mixin 0 would be disabled at the protocol level at some point, it has shown to be open to abuse.
Yes, that's the plan.
August 10, 2014, 02:17:33 PM
there was a 5620 XMR dumped on bittrex right down to .003 this morning
I have bought some when the value was about .0045, do you think it will recover or I should sell now and take the loss?
I'm not sure, I'm not selling, but it is disappointing to see a strong coin like Monero fall like this. What does it say? That the market is not interested in strong coins at all? But the market is more interested in fluff?
It seems the folly of man is going to be our downside, not any issue with Monero itself.
Dark times.
Looking at the Poloniex chart, May 19th low was 0.00104. June 6th low was 0.00175. July 13th low was 0.002315. August 5th low was 0.00334.
August 10, 2014, 02:01:11 PM
Would it be smart to place some "smart" restrictions around high mixin? To help the blockchain size?
Like- Prevent it on "Dust" sized tx.
Like- Prevent it on "Dust" sized tx.
When we move to per-kb tx fees then there will be a linear relationship between the mixin level and the fee you pay, so that will discourage that. Ultimately, though, if someone makes a bunch of high mixin transactions, all they're doing is adding to the utxoset, and thus widening the anonymityset (which is a good thing:)
BTW, currently default mixin = 3 for node-cryptonote-pool. If you, guys, concern about it, probably it's will be good idea to submit a PR and change it to 0 by default.
I was hoping that mixin 0 would be disabled at the protocol level at some point, it has shown to be open to abuse.
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